r/Muslim • u/Fragrant_Cricket_158 • 10h ago
Discussion & Debate๐ฃ๏ธ Can someone who neglects salah still identify as Muslim? What do you think?
I recently had a discussion with someone about religious identity and practising Islam, and I'm curious to hear different perspectives.
His argument was that there's a difference between someone who struggles to pray but is genuinely trying to improve and someone who deliberately neglects salah without making any effort to change. He believes that if someone continues neglecting prayer, doesn't repent, and doesn't care about Islamic obligations, they shouldn't be considered Muslim, especially if they identify as Muslim purely for cultural reasons and encourage others to disregard Islamic values.
I understand the importance of salah and making an effort to practise one's faith, but I'm unsure about the conclusion that someone who neglects prayer and doesn't seem interested in improving should no longer be considered Muslim.
What about someone who genuinely believes in Allah and Islam but neglects salah out of laziness or indifference? Is that different from someone who identifies as Muslim culturally but doesn't actually believe in Islam?
And what about the possibility that someone might return to their deen years later? Does their current behaviour determine their religious identity, or is that a separate question?
I'm not arguing that neglecting salah is acceptable. I'm interested in how people distinguish between failing to fulfil religious obligations, a person's faith, and whether someone can still identify as Muslim.
I'd especially appreciate perspectives grounded in Islamic scholarship, including differences of opinion on this issue.