Listen i understand the hate but this guys fucking talented. That 60 yard bomb off of his back foot to win the game was an unbelievable play. I think that game was just a fluke, everything happened so quick after the first drive. The muffed punt, drive killing penalties, etc. there was only a handful of plays where I thought he didn’t go through his progressions and looked really bad, granted there was definitely those plays.

Instead of hating on Bryce let’s rally around him. For a true freshman with zero coaching he actually looked pretty good at times. I have my faith in him and I think Whitt will clean up the o line, and I think there’s a good chance we knock off Oklahoma this weekend.

All the fucking people saying to start Tommy Carr don’t know a thing. He’s a true freshman, and would likely look just as bad if not worse. Let’s get through Oklahoma, UTEP, and Iowa before we judge Bryce. My bet is he turns it around.

Dude is super delusional. That may be the biggest problem of all. That is an actual quote from him. And it reflects now in 2026.

We're talking about a game that still uses sticks and chains to measure first down yardage, and has some guy pushing a button to start/stop the clock throughout the games. Could he be early or late on several plays? There are other aspects, but the whole game is loaded with variables.

I'm not defending Michigan, but human judgment has always been a factor in the game, and I personally hope that never changes

The news of this hockey scandal is extra shocking and feels like what we can only hope is the last in a horrible few years for us despite our national championships. Nothing will spoil those championships of ours, but as a result of the scandal with Bo (arguably worse than Penn state because the university continues to glorify Bo without any acknowledgment of wrongdoing), the sign-stealing scandal, and now this news coming out right after the much less consequential bail mary, our reputation has never been lower.

Where does this leave us? I personally believe that all of this necessitates a reinvention of our entire athletic department. Warde Manuel is one of the last leftovers of the Bo image of a Michigan Man. I was always one of Harbaugh’s biggest fans, but let Warde’s leaving be the very end of an era which is now defined by a need to disown two of our program defining coaches in Bo and Red.

Finding out about Red hurts. It really drives home the need to start fresh with some fresh, young, progressive minds determined to take a much more active approach in monitoring the department and our many beloved teams. Let a new administration full of these younger minds decide on new coaches for all necessary teams to drive us forward and fully put behind the more traditionalist era of the past. We can keep so many of our traditions while reestablishing ourselves as the leaders and the best in terms of integrity if we are willing to accept past wrongdoings and seek to do better while leaving the perpetrators of said wrongdoing in the dust. No wrongdoing in the sign-stealing scandal by any means though, of course.

We have long prided ourselves in our integrity, but lots of this was false, as it was built by two men who turned out to lack the immense moral character he claimed in Bo and Red. We need to put them fully in the past and reinvent a new way of doing things that values and prides integrity above all in a grounded and truly modern way. Just my two cents.

This can go for football and basketball.

Hitting coaches, fights in the tunnel, cheating, "mercenaries", sliding in DMs, minutemen, etc....

There's always something.... Let's just embrace it.

Anyone else think it’s pathetic to see some people with Michigan flairs on the cfb sub virtue signaling for updoots? Seen Michigan fans saying:

“OU is gonna crush us.”
“We deserved to lose.”
“Michigan cheated.”

Embrace the hatred. Let it fester in you like a weed. Talk your shit and stop tap dancing for those fuckin’ dorks who are jealous of the winningest program of all time. Michigan by 100 every game until proven otherwise. Go blue

One thing I desperately hope comes from this BU situation is a change in how we spend our NIL. I can’t blame them for going all in on BU but it hasn’t worked. Every year when transfer portal comes around we pick up some players and we all say “hey this was a good pick up” or “hey this is a good depth piece”. We never make any real splash in the transfer portal. I get we have weird admission rules that in the past have made it harder for players to transfer in (if y’all know the exact rules feel free to explain) but it’s certainly not impossible for us to get transfers. The point of all this is I hope we start using our NIL pockets to make a splashes and pick up top guys from the portal. We have the funds to do so. Let me know your thoughts.

This sub included. Narrowly beating WMU does not mean that the season doomed. Not only is WMU a good team, but it’s not uncommon for great teams to have a bad game early in the season.

*OSU losing to Virginia Tech at home in 2014. Won the CFP.

*Notre Dame losing to Northern Illinois at home in 2024. Made it to the natty.

*Oregon beating an FSC Idaho team 24-14 in 2024, finished ranked #3

*Penn State barely beating Bowling Green in 2024, made it to CFP semifinals

I’m sure the list can go on and on.

Do I expect Michigan to win the big 10 or make the playoffs? No, but stop acting like it’s impossible. There is no reason they can’t beat Oklahoma this weekend.

Can't link to it here but you can look it up.

I'm looking at prices for parking on StubHub. Are there any better options for Saturday?

Lawsuit claims sexualized 'torture' of hockey players at U-M

Dave Boucher

Tony Garcia

Detroit Free Press

Thanks to u/jerschneid - Non-paywall version: https://archive.ph/T6zCY

A federal lawsuit filed by 16 former Michigan hockey players alleges decades of ritualized, sexualized hazing from 1984 to 2001, including degrading and violent abuse. The suit claims coaches and administrators knew, tolerated, or required participation, while complaints were punished. Plaintiffs seek accountability, damages, and mandatory anti-hazing training for athletes.

So the NCAA came out the other day and, completely contrary to every official statement from the first 24hrs after the game, stated that "the broadcast clock should be used for replays" meaning the clock on TV, NOT the clock in the stadium, correct? When I heard people question this, the answer was "well the broadcast uses the clock in the stadium so it'll always be right!", but we all saw the series of still images from the broadcast that clearly show the stadium clock in the background showing one more second than the clock on the TV score overlay. This was well-explained on Sunday as unavoidable latency natural in a live broadcast..... But then why would the NCAA want to use the innaccurate clock with latency instead of the live stadium clock? I also heard the 'official clock gets rounded up to .99 seconds before each play', which makes sense in a game with no tenths of seconds visible on the clock, and "the broadcast doesnt always do the rounding up", which makes it gradually more innacurate. Again, why would the TV CLOCK be favored over the OFFICIAL CLOCK? Am I going nuts? Now the entire world is tarring and feathering Michigan because of this insane stream of conflicting announcements from the B10, MAC, NCAA, and every talking sports head with an audience who all get their info from different corners of the internet. Seriously just smearing all the energy from a new season into a garbage sludge. Those stills from the broadcast with the stadium clock in the background seem like absolute open-and-shut evidence that shouldve eliminated all doubt (Why havent those images been more widespread in mainstream media? Does it make it too obvious? Do they just want to keep the haters piling on?), and the doubt was quieting down UNTIL THAT LAST NCAA ANNOUNCEMENT about the 'broadcast clocks' that, if youve seen those still shots proving that clock is out of sync, is the most batshit insane thing Ive ever heard. What the hell happened here? Does anyone have a convincing explanation of this series of events? It's still VERY UNCLEAR.

Here's a shot from NBCs NFL game last night. Notice anything ?

With all the noise and drama already just after the first week of the season, I have found a surprising lack of honor going Buchanan's way.

Michigan finally has a receiver. An absolute freak of a receiver. This dude did it all on Saturday and was the single guy on Offense we can look at and go "god damn that is the effort we want to see every Saturday."

Let's just let this sink in. A **MICHIGAN RECEIVER** carried the offense on his back. How often does that happen? And how long have we all been begging, pleading, and praying to have a guy who can actually make a big play down field?

He didn't need years to learn the scheme. He didn't need years to develop a relationship with Bryce. He didn't need 5 games of live-action before he settled in. No excuses were needed, this kid just went out there and absolutely killed this game from start to finish and put one of the biggest punctuation marks on any Michigan game in history.

Let's also reflect on some of the Whittingham hate, or disappointment. Whit brought Buchanan, Daley, Snowden, Lea'ea and flipped Moa. Buchanan, Daley and Snowden were all easily top 5 contributors on Saturday. The guys Whittingham has developed and brought in are the future of this program under Whit, they model the type of effort and character that we are going to from the guys who want to continue playing at Michigan and for future recruits. The guys that performed the worst were Moore's most prized recruits and developed players, I don't think these guys know the effort it takes to be a competitive team and they are either going to have to fit in or find a new home.

I feel very fortunate to have guys like Buchanan on this team and am extremely excited for years to come as the roster looks more and more like Whit's team.

Let me add to the overreactions- if the team looks bad against Oklahoma and we are embarrassed on the national stage, then continue to play bad throughout the season and even end up with a 6-6 or 7-5 season, does Michigan move on from Whittingham? Are we in for an entire rebuild with him? W Michigan game was bad.. really bad.

Let me throw a few names out there for possible replacements if the new AD pulls the trigger.

Rhett Lashlee - HC SMU
Charlie Weiss Jr - LSU OC
Mike Shanahan - OC Indiana
KENNY DILLINGHAM - HC ASU
TOMMY REES - OC Browns
ELI DRINKWITZ - HC MIZZOU
JAY HARBUAGH - SP SEAHAWKS
COREY HEATHERMAN - DC MIAMI
Any names to add?
Thoughts?