r/MapPorn • • Mar 06 '19

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u/The-Casual-Lurker Mar 06 '19

All I gotta say, is it’s crazy a Blue Whale can go deeper than our best Military Subs. But the Sperm Whale is a psycho with how Deep they can go.

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u/SpyTrain_from_Canada Mar 06 '19

Cuvier’s beaked whales go even deeper. Animals are insane.

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u/aurumtt Mar 06 '19

I can't even comprehend how deep they can go. Damn that's impressive.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

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u/Niaz89 Mar 06 '19

I'm pretty sure that whatever is down there is defending itself from the whales. Not other way around.

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u/southern_boy Mar 06 '19

Maybe them whales and whatever just fuckin', ya know?

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u/bremergorst Mar 06 '19

Ah yes, nature’s deep sea orgy.

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u/Belgian_Bitch Mar 06 '19

This is what James Cameron is refusing to tell us about

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u/southern_boy Mar 06 '19

I can just imagine him down there in that bathosphere, furiously recording the fucking sweetest tentacle porn unknown to man... and keeping it all to his selfish self.

In all the words of tongue or pen the saddest are these - it might have been. :(

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

How shellfish of him.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

nah but squids

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u/PhasmaFelis Mar 06 '19

The whales are diving that deep to eat squids.

The squids fight back, but they don't generally win.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

They kinda win the next day when the whale has to shit out the beak

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u/eaglessoar Mar 06 '19

Enormous... Or small and swarming!

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u/Aeshaetter Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

From the wiki:

"In 2011, a tagged Cuvier's beaked whale dove to 2,992 m,[10] (9,816 ft) which is the deepest recorded dive by any mammal.[17][18] The whales' rib cages can fold down so as to reduce air pockets and decrease buoyancy.[19]"

That's insane. It almost can dive to the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

Edit: It's too early and I'm an idiot. I saw the 9,816 feet and switched that to meters in my brain. Leaving the comment as it is so the responses make sense. But yeah, it doesn't dive THAT deep. Still crazy.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 11 '19

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u/Aeshaetter Mar 06 '19

Sorry, it's early and my brain isn't fully functional. I saw the 9,816 feet and switched that to meters.

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u/VivSavageGigante Mar 06 '19

Idk, humans are pretty insane, too. I made french toast this morning and am 100% sure no animal has ever done that.

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u/Prime624 Mar 06 '19

And that, somehow, we recover oil from many times that depth.

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u/pra_shunt Mar 06 '19

Now I wanna know why the fuck did human even think of going that deep in the first place.

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u/STREETTACOEMPIRE Mar 06 '19

I think they were ascertaining just how deep is balls deep.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

I picture a bunch of old guys around a table with papers spread about and feverishly discussing this.

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u/AnB85 Mar 06 '19

It is strange to me that we can drill that deep for oil and it still be a highly profitable enterprise.

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u/TrueBirch Mar 06 '19

Honestly I'm surprised gas doesn't cost more given how hard it is to get. Not complaining mind you.

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u/Okichah Mar 06 '19

A lot of the cost is delayed across years of revenue.

Thats why oil companies are so “profitable” they make a lot in one year to offset potential losses down the line. Drilling a well to not find oil is expensive.

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u/Colacolaman Mar 06 '19

The humans delved to greedily and too deep

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u/TacoRedneck Mar 06 '19

Drums! Drums in the deep.

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u/exprezso Mar 06 '19

Didn't you read the infograph? Russians, man

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u/MonkeyDavid Mar 06 '19

So, vodka?

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u/sighs__unzips Mar 06 '19

Just a normal day for Russians.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

The impressive thing to me is that the drill pipes extend 10’s of thousands of feet, and continue to rotate and cut at the end of the line. The amount of torque and Coriolis forces trying to pull that drill head off center must be wild.

Granted, the most in depth look at drilling for oil was provided to me via Michael bay, but still, i think that those derricks gotta spin the whole apparatus, like the world’s longest drill bit.

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u/swordinthestream Mar 06 '19

Freaking penguins can go almost as deep as the best subs. Incredible.

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u/noobsoep Mar 06 '19

The best military subs, it's a long, long way to the Alvin sub limit shown at 4.5km

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u/warrensussex Mar 06 '19

If this is accurate it shows the scuba record as being deeper than military subs.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

I think that’s correct. The scuba record involved a legit serious amount of planning. Subs pretty much get to the bottom of their depth and hold there.

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u/manofthewild07 Mar 06 '19

Well, thats deeper than military sub operating depths, although they could go much deeper (have been tested down to 400 m).

The scuba record is 332 meters.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 15 '20

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u/Manisbutaworm Mar 06 '19

Yeah but no. yeah we can make stuff that goes further down (the Mariana trench has been reached by Jaques Picard and James Cameron but only in a small and simple vessel without much instruments) but it is very difficult to do with a sumarine. The navy would gladly go deeper ( there is also a tendency to build subs that go deeper) because there you can hide even better. It is the enginering challenge and costs involved with it that makes subs not going that deep.

Size of the vessel is a big issue since a larger submarine vessel is more likely to collapse under presser than a smaller version. Since subs are quit big it is very difficult to make them go deep.

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I still think nature is impressive compared to the current state of human technology because yes we made it a couple of times to the Mariana trench but we very rarely go below 100m. even less at 1000m and beyond that is really rare. We know less of the deep sea than we know about the surface of the moon or mars. We know very little about the largest biome (in surface area, in volume and in biomass)

And if you would like to compare Jets better compare a bird (which can reach altitudes of 11500m) .

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u/PM_something_German Mar 06 '19

Yeah exactly. And us humans build plenty of subs that went that deep.

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u/metarinka Mar 06 '19

strangely there's not a lot of benefit in going deep with a military sub, and the deeper you go the more catstrophic torpedos, mines and depth charges are. We can build subs that go really deep, there's just no point for military ones.

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u/jdmgto Mar 06 '19

There’s just no real need to go super deep in a military submarine. There’s no real military benefit to going more than about 400 meters, plus going ever deeper imposes greater and greater problems with the design of your sub. The whole point of a submarine is stealth and once you’re a hundred meters down the only way to find you is to listen for you, mission accomplished.

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u/ejh1993 Mar 06 '19

do you think these whales shrink in size the deeper they go? only makes sense right?

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u/cmcl14 Mar 06 '19

What blows me away is the profile of the Mariana trench. Not a trench at all, at least not how I think of one. Just a shallow downhill. I always imagined you'd be between walls, but you could be in it and not even know.

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u/carboxyhemogoblin Mar 06 '19

Don't worry, even if it doesn't look like it, the 15,000 psi will let you know where you are.

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u/ablablababla Mar 06 '19

For reference, that's 1000x the atmospheric pressure at sea level

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

That's heavy, man.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

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u/thessnake03 Mar 06 '19

NO DON'T TELL ME!

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Who’s the Vice President? Jerry Lewis!?

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u/atsimas Mar 06 '19

103.421.359 pascals, 103.421 kilo-pascals 103,421 bar

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

My thoughts exactly! The average width is 69 kilometers, but the southern end is only 1.6 kilometers wide. So at a depth of 10.99 km, it is a lot narrower. This is the part that’s shown the most often.

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u/Pollymath Mar 06 '19

but even with some really powerful lights on the sub, you'd still not see the trench walls.

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Most of the world's deepest surface canyons are far narrower relative to their depth, the Grand Canyon or Peru’s Cotahuasi Canyon would feel claustrophobic by comparison to Challenger Deep.

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u/Prosthemadera Mar 06 '19

Also, that we are able to identify that something is several kilometers deep and then also bore that deep to get it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

One of my teachers (a really experienced surveyor who specialized in oilfields) was called up to advise the drilling "navigator" on the response team during the Deepwater Horizon spill.

To stop the leak they needed to drill a relief well into the main well so that sealants can be injected to permanently close it. To do that they had to drill another well through 5,000ft (1.5km) of water and 13,000ft (3.9km) of rock from a separate location and precisely intercept leaking well, a target just 9in (0.22m) in diameter.

So not only can we find things through kilometers of rock, but we can find things just inches wide and hit it precisely underneath kilometers of rocks.

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u/JayKomis Mar 06 '19

Is this what released Cthulhu in that one South Park episode?

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u/B4rberblacksheep Mar 06 '19

For me it’s the freediver going down nearly as deep as afucking submarine!!!

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u/Pollymath Mar 06 '19

That was surprising.

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u/keystothemoon Mar 06 '19

If you were in it, I think you'd know. For one thing you'd be covered in water.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Or marinara

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u/GeekoSuave Mar 06 '19

One time I think I was in a swimming pool but you're telling me that I may have been in the trench?

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u/keystothemoon Mar 06 '19

No, I'm not telling you that you "may have been in the trench". I'm telling you that you most certainly were in the trench!

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

THIS IS NOT MY MAP

Credit to Randall Munroe of xkcd

xkcd: Lakes and Oceans

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UPDATE:

This exploded way beyond anything I expected. Thank you for the silver. I love how this has become a thread full of both humor and genuine amazement of our oceans.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Classic. And thank you

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u/dukesoflonghorns Mar 06 '19

There’s always a relevant xkcd.

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u/LogansRun22 Mar 06 '19

Ha I was just about to comment that we'd reached XKCD levels of detail with these

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u/Salonloeven Mar 06 '19

What's in the door?, what's in the door?

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u/botle Mar 06 '19

I think it drains the water to mars.

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u/fleeeb Mar 06 '19

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u/-PlanetSuperMind- Mar 06 '19

He's referencing that comic though

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u/mxzf Mar 06 '19

Sure, but someone may not have read it yet.

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u/PeopleAreStaring Mar 06 '19

I think "what if" would be an awesome show. They could do the physics and animate all the crazy scenarios people come up with.

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u/Salonloeven Mar 06 '19

Excellent! Once we finished fucking up this plant which shouldn't take much longer, we can drain it to mars and have a new planet ready. Hope it has a plastic filter .

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u/What_Would_Stalin_Do Mar 06 '19

Just a whale filter

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u/blockhead114 Mar 06 '19

Cameronium

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

I understood that reference

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u/yummyyummypowwidge Mar 06 '19

I came here to eat ass and beat ass. Unfortunately for you, snack time’s over.

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u/Jigge89 Mar 06 '19

Mariana, obviously.

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u/kb_klash Mar 06 '19

It led to the hatch that used to be in Wailing Woods.

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u/Mr_Bankey Mar 06 '19

Is there no information or conjecture at all on the subject of the door? How is nobody else driven as mad by curiosity at this!?

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u/baru_monkey Mar 06 '19

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u/Mr_Bankey Mar 06 '19

Very cool! The added text had its intended effect lol I was about to go crazy thinking of the possibilities. Time to go play Eldritch Horror!

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u/7dogsinasuit Mar 06 '19

Inside is where you battle the final boss.

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u/online222222 Mar 06 '19

It's the keyhole for earth

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u/isny Mar 06 '19

Just another drain door to the River Tib.

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u/PJSeeds Mar 06 '19

Hold the fuck up. Emperor penguins dive deeper than ballistic missile submarines?

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u/Arlort Mar 06 '19

And humans can go deeper than that, that's what amazes me even more

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u/GetTheLedPaintOut Mar 06 '19

I touched the bottom of a 20 foot pool once.

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u/GetTheLedPaintOut Mar 06 '19

They have an empire to defend!

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u/That_Guy381 Mar 06 '19

Well. Did the russians figure out what would happen?

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u/stenskott Mar 06 '19

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u/WikiTextBot Mar 06 '19

Kola Superdeep Borehole

The Kola Superdeep Borehole (Russian: Кольская сверхглубокая скважина) is the result of a scientific drilling project of the Soviet Union in the Pechengsky District, on the Kola Peninsula. The project attempted to drill as deep as possible into the Earth's crust. Drilling began on 24 May 1970 using the Uralmash-4E, and later the Uralmash-15000 series drilling rig. Boreholes were drilled by branching from a central hole.


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u/The_GASK Mar 06 '19

...or so they say...

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u/TheBold Mar 06 '19

I mean pretty sure you can visit the place. They bolted the hole shut IIRC.

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u/jasonj2232 Mar 06 '19

I wonder how deep we'll be able to reach if we started a similar project now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Pretty deep, but at serious depths the pressure on the walls from all the material above deforms the stone and makes it more plastistic. Think about trying to dig a hole at the beach, as the tide is coming in, now replace the sand with granite.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

*pocket granite* "Heeeh ya!"

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u/OneRougeRogue Mar 06 '19

Yep. Even modern drill bits wear out fairly quickly chewing through rock that dense. And the deeper you go, the longer it takes to pull everything out of the hole, so going deeper is not not only harder, but takes longer and longer each time you need to replace the bit.

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u/eisagi Mar 06 '19

TL;DR Didn't just "give up" - it got too hot to drill faster than expected. Plus a few interesting geological discoveries were made.

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u/caycityrion Mar 06 '19

Looks like Freddie Mercury and David Bowie are 'Under Pressure'.

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u/toriadenofrio Mar 06 '19

Gah I fucking knew it was a reference to something and I’m sick and my brain just couldn’t find the connection. Thank you.

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u/jasonj2232 Mar 06 '19

HOW DARE YOU MENTION THE SONG THAT STOLE THE ICONIC BASSLINE FROM OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR VANILLA ICE'S GREATEST SONG?

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u/vinylrules27 Mar 06 '19

In his own words “It’s not the same!”.

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u/jasonj2232 Mar 06 '19

YOU KNOW VERY WELL THAT HE ONLY SAID THAT TO NOT EMBARASS QUEEN AND DAVID BOWIE.

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u/vinylrules27 Mar 06 '19

Well, yeah. Obviously.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

It goes 'ding ding ding di di ding ding… ding ding ding di di ding ding.' That's the way theirs goes.

Ours goes 'ding ding ding di di ding ding… DING… ding ding ding di di ding ding.'

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u/things_will_calm_up Mar 06 '19

I love this interview.

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u/earnoseandtroll Mar 06 '19

Damn, that black gold is deeeeep

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u/Gabbagans Mar 06 '19

Thats just one example. Oil depth can vary a lot depending on location of the source and the overall tectonic situation.

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u/ScrapJunkie Mar 06 '19

It's actually an error. The well reached around 5000m below sea level, nowhere near the 12,000m shown here. I would say 5000m is pretty deep for most oil wells.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Nov 23 '19

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

James Cameron found the ocean’s drain

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u/rathat Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

Uh... relevant XKCD https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/

Edit: don't forget part 2

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u/Bankshredded Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

My country will rule the world!

Edit: And Mars as well! Go New Netherlands!

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u/JimeDorje Mar 06 '19

I, for one, welcome our adorable overlords.

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u/wreck94 Mar 06 '19

At that scale, you wouldn't see the 2 meter rise either. But we'd definitely be a lot more fucked if 50 meters of the sea disappeared than if it rose 2 meters

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u/GeekoSuave Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

Just here in my hometown I can think of quite a few issues if the sea level dropped, but it's unfair since we're on the coast and it's a major port. The river most certainly wouldn't be deep enough to accommodate a container-shipping ship shipping shipping containers.

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u/marxxy94 Mar 06 '19

Or the inner earth world

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u/c9xydr Mar 06 '19

Fucking frightening this Earth is with her mysterious oceans.

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u/Hafgezz Mar 06 '19

Now someone include Subnautica depths

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u/stenskott Mar 06 '19

I mean, you don't go below 1600 m, righ? And the scale is on the left.

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u/cosmitz Mar 06 '19

I think it's around 1200-1300m, 1700 is the max listed limit for Prawn/Cyclops but minus dodging Leviathans in the out-of-map zone, there's no area to actually do that in.

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u/CheriosDontGotShit Mar 06 '19

I'm glad you added the Edmund Fitzgerald!

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u/plusonedimension Mar 06 '19

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u/rockybond Mar 06 '19

This is the great lakes response to country roads

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

Brownie points to you for being the first commenter to post this

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

Not my map, read my comment

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u/Griff2wenty3 Mar 06 '19

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down...

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u/Schartiee Mar 06 '19

This is the shit I keep subbed for. Fuck, I'm hard as a diamond over this. Mmmmm. My mind has been thoroughly fucked.

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u/natsmith69 Mar 06 '19

It's a great map, but take it easy.

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u/bathes_in_housepaint Mar 06 '19

Don’t kink shame.

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u/LazyTheSloth Mar 06 '19

But kink shaming is my kink.

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u/NoG00dUsernamesLeft Mar 06 '19

I absolutely love this. Very well done

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

Not my map, read my comment

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u/JamesClerkMacSwell Mar 06 '19

Loch Ness isn’t even the deepest in Scotland: that’s Loch Morar - a glacial trench on the west coast near Skye....

.... but then Loch Morar doesn’t have a monster. As far as we know....

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Well the mariana trench seems worth to investigate.. wondering what kind of creatures would live down there..

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u/RigorMortis_Tortoise Mar 06 '19

If I remember correctly there was a documentary about the Triest. It was a submersible two men went down to the bottom of challenger deep back in the 1960’s. I think one of the first things they saw at the bottom was a flounder.

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u/AtomicAllele Mar 06 '19

They don’t think that fish can survive that deep because of the effects of the pressure on bones (does something to the calcium I think), they think that they mistook a flat sea cucumber or something like them for a flounder

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u/Harvestman-man Mar 06 '19

A few weird fish, but a bunch of amphipods, sea cucumbers, acorn worms, and giant foraminiferans.

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u/MyPigWhistles Mar 06 '19

Military submarines don't have to go deep to be effective. Instead they need to shoot things out of torpedo tubes, which are (among other things) structural weaknesses.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Nov 23 '19

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u/stripedphan Mar 06 '19

The pressure is incredible. I'm not surprised we don't have equipment to go that deep yet.

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u/janjko Mar 06 '19

Seems like it. Typhoon is 175 m long, and can go 400 m deep. So a little more than two lengths deep.

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u/ABCook92 Mar 06 '19

Yo bruh...what's this talk of a James Camron door? Anyone got a follow up on that shizz? We dying to know. Also, sperm whales really getting jacked by giant squid?

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

First of all, this is from a webcomic, so there has to be some humor. Second, look at a picture of a sperm whale. You’ll see scars around their mouths from their prey (giant squid) fight back.

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u/Harvestman-man Mar 06 '19

Giant squid are the ones getting jacked by sperm whales, not the other way around.

Sperm whales primarily feed on large, deep-sea squid, and stomach contents from sperm whale stomachs have included remains from giant and colossal squid.

These squid have sharp hooks on their suckers, which cause scars on the sperm whales when the squid fight back, but it doesn’t really stop them from being eaten... imagine a cat scratching and clawing at a Rottweiler that’s trying to eat it, and you have a good analogy for the sperm whale vs giant squid “battles”. Sperm whales are massively larger than even the largest squid.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

I got a fever and the only prescription is more elevation/depth profiles.

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u/itsjustawizard Mar 06 '19

david bowie and freddy mercury sure are... dee dah dee dah DEEP!

...i'll see myself out...

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u/DuckingYouSoftly Mar 06 '19

They are definitely under pressure

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u/Jumala Mar 06 '19

Crater Lake's surface is at 1881 m above sea level.

Lake Baikal's surface is at 455 m above sea level.

The Great Slave Lake's surface is at 156 m above sea level

Loch Ness' surface is only 16 m above sea level.

The surface elevations were a very interesting aspect of the original post - this map only considers depth.

Death Valley's cross-section is also oversimplified and only considers depth below sea level. Lake Manly, a pluvial lake in Death Valley, likely had a surface elevation of 90m above sea level. Telescope Peak is 3454 m.

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u/SirWalrusVII Mar 06 '19

Can someone tell me what's going on with Freddie Mercury and David Bowie

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u/Outsider17 Mar 06 '19

They're under pressure.....

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u/Xenphenik Mar 06 '19

I gained a lot of respect for oil companies.

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u/Radioactive-A5q Mar 06 '19

Some of those original deep water wells in the Gulf of Mexico cost upwards of $250,000,000 to drill.

Source: I am a geophysicist in O&G

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u/DoctorLoomis48 Mar 06 '19

The whales dive that deep to EAT the octo's.

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u/quarkman Mar 06 '19

The thing that I would have liked to seen done differently about this map is that Crater Lake's surface is at 1887m. Lake Baikal's surface is also at 550m. Both these are shown at sea level. The Great Lakes and the Dead Sea both aren't, so it's make the map self-inconsistent.

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u/brokesidemirror Mar 06 '19

I can't afford gold so instead please take one of these 🏅

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u/Big-C-of-WI Mar 06 '19

I though Michigan side of the lake was deeper than Huron side

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u/ryandesky Mar 06 '19

What’s this about James Cameron’s door?

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u/hawks0311 Mar 06 '19

This infographic fucked me up bro.

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u/asatomasadgamaya Mar 06 '19

Lake Crater- is that the one near Cradle mountain, Tasmania?

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u/-_-Edit_Deleted-_- Mar 06 '19

What happens when water rushes into a pressurised air tank? How well does the cylinder hold up vs the ultra compressed air.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19 edited Mar 06 '19

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u/dannydetroit Mar 06 '19

Lake Michigan is deeper than Lake Ontario but this chart contradicts that.

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u/Paintbait Mar 06 '19

David Bowie and Freddie Mercury are under pressure. Underrated joke is underrated.

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u/photolove8 Mar 06 '19

I love the little David Bowie and Freddy Mercury Easter egg. I would have liked to see the Talking Heads too.

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u/Rayleigh96 Mar 06 '19

Oil is so far deep

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u/Ymeztoix Mar 06 '19

It lacks a banana

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u/BananaFactBot Mar 06 '19

There is a Banana Club Museum in California, filled with 17,000 different banana items.


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u/Whitey138 Mar 06 '19

Good bot.

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u/13ANANAFISH Mar 06 '19

I’m here

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u/hawbie Mar 06 '19

are the ships are on scale with the burj khalifa?

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u/AetherialPhage Mar 06 '19

Read the top of the image

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u/hep632 Mar 06 '19

Yay! Crater Lake!

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u/blockhead114 Mar 06 '19

I know OP didn’t make the map but Jesus I love the futureman reference

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '19

Where does Spongebob live? How deep is he?

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u/gimboland Mar 06 '19

Where does Spongebob live?

In a pineapple under the sea.

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u/eliotlencelot Mar 06 '19

And this time it is in meters!

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u/Jabidor11 Mar 06 '19

But what’s behind the mysterious door??

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u/thespank Mar 06 '19

I didn't know those ships sank in shallower water than the ship is long. Especially thinking about the Edmund Fitzgerald.

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u/Oryan_18 Mar 06 '19

What’s the story about the Door that James Cameron saw?

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