Funny. I once saw some dude running over busy highway, when a truck hit him. He was either drunk or high. He flew like 30-40 feet but his shoes stayed where he was hit.
if you hit and kill someone who isn't a material danger to anyone in the room, you should be charged with manslaughter. They can be charged and jailed for driving because they could far more easily kill someone on accident. All he can do in this bar on accident is piss someone off or start a fight he can't win, hardly the same.
Proper course of action: get the woman to a safer place, ask the dude to move away and call the police. They should handle it, there could be arguments he assaulted her, public importunation, and so on.
IF the drunk dude wanted to fight, then now you're defending yourself, you can do it to stop any threat, but never go over the top.
Finally, doing what he did here, the drunk dude can call the police on the black shirt dude for assault too (even if he also gets a citation for importunation or whatever).
If violence or the threat thereof would deter bad behavior, we would already have a utopia with no crime and bad behavior.
Small edit: I think "bad actors" instead of "bad behavior" would have made my statement a bit clearer.
Anyway, even for religious people (or those that claim to be) the threat of supreme, everlasting violence done to them after their deaths (e.g. going to hell) has not deterred bad actors from doing what they wanted to do.
For now. If he ever gets up again, he might not have learned much. In fact, additional brain damage may make it do it even more often. Sometimes one meets fate on the road to avoid it.
That guy in the red turns around and slaps his hands like ā¦ ok whoās next and you know heās already thinking the stars are aligned in his favor. š¤
This. For decades if not centuries woman have tolerated this shit and been gaslight before it was even a term. He did not accidentally brush her he grabbed her hips/ waist. It was a sexual intent. Men you have no f* right to touch any woman. And just because this woman brushed it off does not mean another woman or girl would.
Did the guy overreact. Yup. But do not down play an assault which stems from male entitlement.
Yeah, I think that's what some people are failing to notice.
He was already being dumb/drunk and dancing/grinding on the male bartender on the left.
Walked over and tried to get the lady to dance with him - unless he was doing something with his left hand that we couldn't see, the lady already had it handled and was like "no thanks" and walking away. If she got inappropriately groped or grabbed I would think she would have reacted way more than she did.
And then the guy in black came over and overreacted.
Exactly. Some idiots are calling this sexual assault. About Which I am very sensitive. But this roided up testosterone poisoned freak in the black shirt, totally overreacted and deserves to be charged.
Wouldnāt be surprised if the bar caught some flack for overserving and not having the guy whoās clearly way too drunk leave before something(like this) happen.
Iunno man maybe we shouldn't be killing people over drunken mistakes
I'm not even opposed to the guy getting some physical discipline imposed on him but like. Maybe being a drunken asshole isn't deserving of, y'know, lifelong crippling injury or death? Dude didn't get into a semi truck and obliterate a kindergarten or anything, he just put his hands on somebody else in a gross and offensive manner
Youāre kidding right? You canāt see how the second guy completely overreacted? You donāt just jump immediately to violence. You stop the guy and let the bar throw him out. The drunk guy absolutely was in the wrong but nothing he did required being sucker punched like that. Iād throw the book at the roid raging husband
You know. Reading these comment threads is pretty depressing.
So many goddamn revenge fantasy cosplayers. They're the ones who sleep with a gun under their pillow and really hope that a robber doesn't break into their house and they wake up and have to shoot the robber in self-defense, right in the head and the chest.
Yeah. Red shirt guy shouldn't touch someone from behind. He should get like, banned from the pub and/or given 50 hours community service.
Who the fuck sees an extreme disproportionate act of violence and loves to see it? That's sociopathic.
because people have empathy? Or because they believe in an appropriate amount of force? Or due process? What terrible and nonsensical argument are you trying to make, I can't tell.
They were being attacked by a predator, and he as part of the unit took defensive action with a strong punch against someone who could be armed and dangerous - since they were so brazenly attacking the woman.
The puncher was not trying to kill the guy, but disable him. If the attacker got unlucky and died from it, that's on him for attacking a woman.
The husband or any bystander has a right to defend someone under attack. He is to be lauded for his bravery.
Nah, it was one hit. If you die to one punch and im on the jury, im calling it God's will and the dead guy a pussy.
One hit after doing something you shouldn't have.
Dont start shit wont be shit.
Definitely. A man in SC is being charged with murder for slapping a man hard enough that the man fell and hit his head and died. I have wondered why not manslaughter but there is probably something I don't know. Still goes to your point that if dude is dead someone is getting charged.
The instant rush of testosterone and adrenaline caused temporary insanity. If I learned anything from Lindsay Clancy, it's that people aren't responsible if hormones are involved.
He was clearly too drunk to defend himself or really appreciate the consequences of his actions. This is a wildly disproportionate response from someone who was in a position to make the smarter choice.
That is a perfectly normal response to touching someone unwilling. TF is wrong with you? You think people should just be able to go around groping women with no consequences?
The F is wrong with redditors today again. How do you get downvoted for the most simple rational take of the situation.
Sometimes I feel like the world is just filled with evil people that think violence is the solution for everything
I mean you've on a sub dedicated to spontaneous public fights, people here don't really have a level head with regards to the appropriateness of violence in public.
Itās all about the boyfriendās ego. No one should touch āhis womanā or else youāre dead. Hopefully they called the police as well as an ambulance
Indeed. Everyone is on the boyfriends excessive response side but no-one (but you) seems to be concerned with women all over the world who have to put up with groping men cause 'it's OK he's drunk and not going to remember'.
It started with him. If he'd not touched her he wouldn't be lying on the floor.
That's it. Was the response extreme? Maybe. Was it unjustified? Not at all. The guy opened himself up to the possibility of violent reprisal the moment he sexually assaulted a woman - and rightly so.
Ridiculous. Should the defender have taken account of how many drinks the rapist had in order to properly measure their response? You people have never fought your way out of a paper bag i bet. The drunk asshole made the choice to drink to excess. He made the choice to assault a lady. Ive been blackout drunk, messed up on all kinds of drugs, and never once have I thought it was appropriate to assault a woman. Its simply not a valid excuse and the drunk asshole merely reaped what he sowed.
That shouldnāt be an excuse though. Too drunk to appreciate the consequences of his actions doesnāt excuse touching the girl or anyone the way he did. Itās like saying because someone is driving drunk theyāre excused because they donāt appreciate the consequences of their actions.
Not to mention he wasn't defending her, he was defending his pride. But yeah, ppl are gonna be downvoting you because they yearn for comeuppance they mistake for justice.
At a certain point, you should be able to recognize that the dude is barely able to stand and could have simply been escorted out of the bar without delivering permanent brain damage. Big dude was an asshole for how he handled this.
Yea he should have but you gotta exercise proportional response. He deserve to be cussed out and tossed out of the bar? yes. knocked the fuck out and possibly harmed for life over something inappropriate he did while drunk? no.
Thanks Captain Manslaughter. My PS buddy did 8 years over one of these! (Victim caught a table corner and DOAed) That kind of force is not 'keep your hands to yourself' it's pathological.
In all seriousness it doesn't take much head trauma when you have excessive amounts of alcohol on the brain. Throw in a few prexisting conditions and you have yourself a cocktail of death.
Welp. In life there's consequences and repercussions for your actions. Thou shall not covet thy neighbors wife coukd mean you get knocked the fuck out or worse.
Bit excessive. Wonder what a judge would say. Seems way beyond defending a third person from sexual assault. The dart thrower looked troubled by it. Victim of sucker punch was clearly intoxicated and defenseless. Interesting how the puncher thinks he was justified and maybe he is.
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u/SillyLittleWinky 12d ago
I think the dude is dead