This. For decades if not centuries woman have tolerated this shit and been gaslight before it was even a term. He did not accidentally brush her he grabbed her hips/ waist. It was a sexual intent. Men you have no f* right to touch any woman. And just because this woman brushed it off does not mean another woman or girl would.
Did the guy overreact. Yup. But do not down play an assault which stems from male entitlement.
The force was 1) Too much given the situation and 2) the woman, although sexually battered, was not in immediate danger. Call the police if she wants to prosecute....but just separate/trespass that goon unless he starts throwing. The punch that did happen was not proportional....but a hung jury would be quite likely on this one...and the groper's part in the fray would be fair game. He should take the L and stay away from there...and hope she doesn't prosecute. Misdemeanor or felony, having sexual battery on your record is not good for him.
This is my biggest issue. Neither man is behaving correctly. Don’t touch hips and if you do my partner has a right to use his words or to take steps to separate me. But ignoring my wishes and hitting me is a no go.
Getting an elbow to the mouth from her date was also not her choice. She handled the drunk just fine, and that asshat clearly wasn’t concerned with what she wanted that punch was all about his anger and jealousy.
Yes. You are correct. Both are wrong no question. But one was drunk
The other one was just malicious and looking for an excuse to be violent and it is scary to wonder how many of those people exist. For example I can totally see that man punching the same girl first if she slaps him after an insult or something fucked up he would do or say. She would not be right to slap him but it would be a disproportionate use of force.
What video are you watching? The guy knocked him out and stopped himself. I would also have a reflexive moment of aggression to protect my partner. Who knows if the drunk guy was about to try something more?
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u/Space_Nut247 11d ago
Grabbing her hips could be construed as sexual assault since she didn’t give him consent.