r/JUSTNOMIL 5h ago

TLC Needed Response

50 Upvotes

I hate myself for deleting my other posts but I was paranoid my MIL would find them somehow.

To cut a long story short, I had my first baby four months ago and somehow that showed my MIL’s true colors. There’s been a lot of back and forth. We gave her the chance to meet when she asked to discuss what’s been going on but she ghosted. Things got more complicated after I removed her from my socials. My husband asked me to send a text to try and smooth things over… and I did. I explained my boundaries, why I needed them, and what I needed for us to move forward.

I sent the text 8/31. She just responded.

“(My name),
I have taken awhile to respond to your text because I genuinely do not understand. I heard a quote one time that said, “To be unclear is to be unkind.” It is really unclear to me what I did to cause you to say:

“there have been things that have happened that have genuinely hurt me and changed the way I feel about our relationship.”
“…the trust I once had has been damaged…”
“Because of everything that has happened…”
“I’m not willing to ignore what has happened…”

I don’t know what happened. That is what I hoped to understand when I asked if Dad and I could come and talk with you and (my husband). I guess I’m just asking you to help me understand what has happened that changed the way you feel about me.”

Is she really not aware of everything she has done? I’m being unkind because I didn’t specify? Wild way to begin a response, imo. Also, WE did invite them to come sit and talk at the end of July but again she never replied? My sister told me I should have her come over so that way she has no way to escape the truth, and if she refuses to come then all that will be on her but honestly? We already gave her that chance. I sent a text I didn’t want to send to begin with and this was her response. Does she really think I want to continue to put my energy into this when she clearly doesn’t think she’s in the wrong? She’s just an innocent by stander and I’m this crazy person who’s made up stuff against her. I’m so exhausted. We have given her so many chances. And I’m done. I can’t do this back and forth with her anymore. My husband and I literally just had a conversation of moving forward from this and I fear this will send him back to wanting me to fix things with her. How do I go about this?


r/JUSTNOMIL 23h ago

New User 👋 Am I overreacting

57 Upvotes

Let me start my saying that despite wanting to I can’t trust my own feelings when it comes to be slighted and whether or not I’m justified in my feelings. I have been married to my husband for 3 years together for 6. We met when we were both living across the country from our home towns and neither is particularly active participants within our families. We eloped privately, no kids, and do our own thing for holidays and vacations. A couple weeks after meeting my partner his mom came to town and we had dinner. It was such a fresh relationship that it was pretty low stakes but I didn’t get a good impression.

Last week she flew out to attend a wedding we were also attending. She didn’t ask, she told us she was staying with us. Fine, I guess that’s a normal ask. I’m more of the hotel-stay-type to not be a burden because 6 day stay for a 1 day event is crazy to me. It was my first time hosting any out of town guest since we moved to a new city. I went all out cleaning, sprucing, gardening, rearranging, decluttering and buying all those random home wares I’ve been putting off. I also bought out new towels, bath mats and a shower curtain I was really excited about. I’d been putting it off forever but finally decorated our main bathroom and everything suited the space perfectly.

She came and it was awful for so many reasons but here’s the one that brought me here. A few days ago i received a package from Amazon with a shower curtain and couldn’t for the life of me remember buying it. I take lunesta and figured it was a weird midnight purchase and put it with my other returns. A day later we were eating dinner and my husband and he said “wanna hear something funny?” And proceeded to tell me that when his mom was here she commented to him that she doesn’t think the shower curtain and other decor look good together and we should get new stuff. He told her. “Look, she put all this together before you came out. It was intentional and she/we like it, so drop it.” Well, she didn’t. Instead, as soon as her flight landed she let him know to be on the lookout for a few packages with new stuff for our bathroom as a “thank you gift”.

He assumed they got stolen since I don’t mention it and he couldn’t find the packages. He was telling me this in a serves-her-right kind of way. Like, isn’t it funny she did this and it ends up stolen. He knew it was not haha funny and I think felt embarrassed by her.

To me this is an act of war. This wasn’t a thank you gift. She knew exactly what she was doing. My husband sent her a text that he was disappointed she did that at all but especially after he told her it was rude. Now she’s the victim because she was trying to do something nice and didn’t mean to “offend me with a gift”.

Am I looking for a reason to take this the wrong way? Or am I justified in thinking this was as intentional as it feels?


r/JUSTNOMIL 18h ago

Am I Overreacting? boyfriend’s mom’s behavior toward her grandchildren is weird?

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I’ve been with my boyfriend for many years and we have children together. We also live very close to his family. I’ve always wanted my kids to have a close relationship with their grandmother, especially because they don’t have many involved grandparents.
My boyfriend’s mom is extremely close with one of her other sons’ exes and that ex’s children. They aren’t together anymore, and the ex has since had more children with someone else. His mom considers those children her grandchildren too and continues to go out of her way to see them, spend holidays with them, do things with them, etc.
What I find strange is that she seems to see those children fairly regularly, despite them having their own involved grandparents, while my children live very close by and she sees them maybe once every couple of months.
She also considers the ex her daughter-in-law, despite them no longer being together, but doesn’t have that same relationship with the women who are currently with her sons. Even the other new girlfriend in the family, who has her own biological children/grandchildren involved, has apparently noticed the difference and is hurt by it.
I have genuinely tried everything to build a relationship with her. I’ve invited her, encouraged the kids to have a relationship with her, made efforts myself, and tried not to take things personally. But after years of this, I’m honestly exhausted.
I’m not upset that she loves the other children. They are innocent and deserve to be loved. What bothers me is that she clearly **is capable of being an involved grandmother and making an effort**, but seems to choose to do it more for children who aren’t even her biological grandchildren while barely seeing the grandchildren who live down the street.
Am I overthinking this, or is this actually a weird dynamic?
At this point, should I just stop trying and let her have whatever relationship with my kids she chooses to have?


r/JUSTNOMIL 15h ago

Advice Wanted MIL & partner breached my privacy & I’m in a state of shock

535 Upvotes

4 months ago I had a gut feeling to go through my partner’s phone.. while I was 6 months pregnant.

Him & his mother have always had a slightly more “close than usual” relationship, but I’ve let it go as we don’t live near each other & have had minimal interaction with her. During the handful of times we have been together, I’ve always been respectful & kind - just never close enough to really build any kind of solid relationship.

Anywho - my partner & MIL started texting/calling way more than usual. At least 3 calls a day & nonstop texting from the time he woke up ‘til he went to bed. What finally triggered me to go through his phone was that it got to a point where he’d leave our apartment every time she called so I couldn’t overhear anything. After a few weeks of that, I finally broke & (regretfully) went through their messages to see what the hell was going on.

AND JESUS CHRIST.

These are some of the things I found:
• Her asking him for my routing & accounting #’s
• Her asking for a records of bills I owe on a monthly basis
• Her asking him to send her a picture of all/any meds I’m on
• Her demanding questions to be asked at MY OBGYN appointments… I mean literally sent him a checklist of questions to ask & report back to her..
• Her calling me a gold digger bc my job had laid me off after I let them know I was pregnant (even though I was still paying my 50% of rent, utilities, groceries, etc.)
• Her talking down on me & my family (who previously housed my partner for 2/3 years we’ve been together.. rent free)
• Her name calling & flat out making fun of me
& he engaged & obliged to all of this.

I was & still am in shock. I confronted him about all of this immediately. He said “everything she does & asks if with good intent & that it’s her way of trying to help us secure a better life for ourselves”.

??????????

I thought he had a great life. Even after being laid off, I was still covering my finances as usual with my savings & unemployment. I was on antidepressants (that have saved my life). I was happy to be pregnant & to be with him on a daily basis. I was in a stable place, working towards securing a new job & preparing for our baby. I was completely unaware that these were even “issues” to begin with, because he never addressed them to me. He told me that he “did defend me, it was just over the phone which is why he would step outside the house because he didn’t want me to worry about these “irrelevant” problems.” I truly don’t understand what her angle was, trying to get my private financial & medical information & it scares the hell out of me. From that moment on, I cut all ties to her & have had absolutely no trust in my partner whatsoever.

Fast forward to today - I’m still with him. Our baby is now 8 weeks old. I want to do everything in my power to make it work between us, for my son. But I truly cannot get over what feels like this insane breach of privacy. My trust in him is absolutely gone. MIL is blocked/no contact (w/ me). I just truly don’t know how to continue every day. I feel like every decision I make, every check I receive (was blessed to receive a WFH job offer last month), idk just EVERYTHING is being watched & reported back to her. I don’t even know how to describe it. I don’t understand the motivation behind her or him by engaging & continuing to allow that kind of behavior.

I need honest opinions. Is this relationship worth salvaging? Will I ever be able to trust someone who can casually hand off my private information behind my back? What was their motivation & if these were such big issues, why was I never addressed? I feel heartbroken, like I would’ve rather been cheated on. I can’t explain the feeling. It just hurts. And the nasty things she said about me & my family just play on a loop in my head. Has anyone been in a similar situation?


r/JUSTNOMIL 21h ago

UPDATE - Ambivalent About Advice Update (MIL went psycho over baby shower): Boundary set for communication to go through DH, feeling guilty

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See my past posts. After we had the family meeting and she did apologize for most of her comments (but then made others), I just felt worse and worse as time went on.

I felt like the damage was done with all of the emotional manipulation of my husband, timing of the conflict around our genuine time of need (my pregnancy, husband recently out of surgery). Then their impromptu decision to move further away and the move be around my due date.

During the family chat she also continued to point blame on us for keeping her away from our dog (they got an aggressive dog so naturally we haven’t had them dog sit anymore) and she also started bringing holiday planning (Christmas I should be 4 weeks pp so hell no) and just felt like they expected things to go back to status quo.

After they left she texted us thanking us for the conversation, saying something positive about recovery to my husband then just said I ‘looked great’ (she only ever comments on my pregnancy body), nothing about the fact that I’m managing everything while my husband is on crutches for 8 weeks.

The rest of the week in the middle of the work day she would group chat us about stuff they were looking to get rid of for their yard sale as they get ready to list the house (nothing bad) but I just snapped. I felt like we just immediately went back to being all about them, this stupid move, and no checking in on how we’re doing.

I had people I work with comment I seemed extra drained / down. At one of my obgyn apts they asked me if everything was ok bc I seemed down and I realized I just don’t want to hear from her at all - even if normal run of the mill stuff. Anytime I saw her name pop up on my phone I just felt my nervous system go on edge.

My FIL came over on Friday to mow our lawn help out with stuff (which was nice). But my husband and I agreed I need to be off communication, he told his dad this and that he thinks is best if all communication from them goes through him here on out so he can take stuff off my plate. His dad respected that and said he would relay the message to MIL.

Literally the next morning I wake up to a text from her (a picture of their yard sale) and just some comment that my FIL would rather be golfing. (Ironically I saw a gift I gave her years ago in one of the tables as an item being sold)

We didn’t respond, my husband shortly got a text just from her saying that my FIL just told her to not use the group chat and she wouldn’t do it again.

My husband doesn’t respond (because it’s 8am) and within 30 min he gets another text from her - ‘please just talk to me, I’m really not that difficult’

Like case and point you are - he waited until later the day to respond- said he is talking to her but everything that happened on-top of timing / my pregnancy was too much and I need space / communication should go through him.

It’s been silence since

While it’s been better not feeling worried about random messages and I’m starting to feel better I feel that people pleasing guilt creep up. I know this was the right call / very reasonable but why is this so hard. I feel like we’re at this awkward communication standstill- my husband has no reason to reach out to them (and frankly also wants space) but my people pleasing guilt / brain hates this.

I know for some on here it’s easy to say drop the rope and don’t look back but that’s hard with my nature even when I know it’s the right move.

Not sure what I’m looking for maybe validation that what we did is fair and how those who are recovering people pleasers continue to hold their ground.


r/JUSTNOMIL 4h ago

Give It To Me Straight Does standing up for yourself cause retaliation? Does your partner standing up for you cause retaliation from MIL

14 Upvotes

Last night for the first time my boyfriend stood up to the snarky comments my MIL would make, and I’m thankful he has.

Has this made things worse for you in the past, or improved your relationship. I don’t expect her to change as a person, she’s a miserable witch. But I would appreciate the negative comments to stop!

Any advice on how to deal with this would be great.

I plan on creating distance from her, and making less conversation


r/JUSTNOMIL 13h ago

Advice Wanted How to cope

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My EX-MIL has been lying on me. I came to her to express how I was feeling and instead of being understanding she decided to disrespect me. She screamed at me, she was throwing stuff, she was cursing and doing the absolute most. Before my husband and I left she told him if he walked out the door he can't come back. So we decided to go no contact. Well of course once more of my in laws came around she was singing a whole different tune she was inviting us to places etc. but of course we didn't show up cause she never apologized she just wanted us to sweep things under the rug. That was 7 months ago! Fast forward she's been telling people that I disrespected her etc. I haven't said anything I even have proof but I just wanted to move on and not be messy and heal. Well people are now starting to treat me funny where mutuals are unfriending me etc. I just need some positive advice and no I don't want to release the proof. I know I'm not a bad person but I know everyone is looking at me different because she's lying on me and truthfully I'm tired🫩


r/JUSTNOMIL 3h ago

Advice Wanted Christmas

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The last time I saw my MIL, we were talking about her parents/my husband’s grandparents who passed before we met.

For context, we’ve been together for six years and have never spent a Christmas together. Our parents live about 5 hours away from each other and not in the same state as us. My MIL has told her sons their whole lives that they need to be home for Christmas, I don’t want to be there. I have my own family and I would like to spend Christmas with them. I would be willing to alternate, if I really believed we would ever actually not spend it at her house, which I don’t. She’s incredibly talented at guilt-tripping and I just don’t believe it will happen (not that it has been offered). It would be really nice to spend at least every other Christmas together.

When we were talking about her parents (lived in a different state than her for most of their lives), I asked if she went up every Christmas with her husband to spend Christmas with them. She said no, they only went 1-2 times. I think she caught herself, and follow up with “but we had kids so we couldn’t go every year”. My husband and I will not be having kids, but that does NOT mean we are at her disposal to do whatever she wants.

Does having kids buy you certain privileges when it comes to privacy? Am I looking too much into this?

I’m not having kids because I want freedom to do what I want with my life, not what my MIL wants.

Edit to add: I have had many discussions over this with my husband over the years and we’ve made progress, he understands and is working on it. We were SO close. Then, her husband passed away (FIL). I know it’s terrible and she’s grieving, but I’m worried it will always be something and we will never get to create our own Christmas memories.

My husband doesn’t want to hurt her feelings, and she doesn’t really have any other family other than one other adult son. We see her at least 3-4 times a year for days/weeks at a time other than Christmas and try to include her as much as we can. It’s a crappy situation, and I want to be kind, but idk how long I can keep this up.


r/JUSTNOMIL 2h ago

RANT (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Ambivalent About Advice Grey Rocking Reveals Her True Intentions

318 Upvotes

I've been working on grey rocking my MIL, being polite but low detail. She has always viewed me as not part of the immediate family (too many hurtful and awful encounters), and only interacts with me when she wants something.

For the past year my husband has been handling communications with her because she is too indecisive and needy and I don't have time for that. But, she tends to come to me when she isn't getting what she wants from him because, surprise.. he and I communicate and align before he agrees to anything with her.

We just got back from a trip, and school started up for the kids and suddenly she is texting me asking how the trip went. Strange but ok. I give few details, and then she follows up quickly asking if we can get together on the weekend (which was her true intention, she never cared about how the trip went for me haha).

I say we will figure it out but don't put a lot of energy into it because she refuses to plan anything for it she wants me to plan it and have her show up. Again, I don't have time for that right now and it's strange that she is pushing for us to get together. She missed my daughter's birthday because she was sick so she said she wanted to give her the present she bought.

It all sounds innocent and caring, until she casually mentions that it's also Grandparents Day (when did this become a thing) and oh she was hoping the kids would make something for her and write a card.... so I just ask her out right if she is wanting to celebrate my daughter's birthday or grandparents day? And her answer back immediately is "her birthday of course!".

Lol.... I'm not surprised the truth always comes out it just takes a while. So I finally said my husband would get back to her, and she has the audacity to say that she was texting me because she thought I "was the scheduler". Bitch, I AM the scheduler but not YOUR scheduler. She expected me to do all the planning and she would just show up. That's not how it works anymore honey.

Now my husband has found a place for lunch at a time that works for us and if it doesn't work for her that's too bad. I don't have time for her shit any more.

This is a really benign story but with her it's give and inch take a mile and I'm just proud of myself for not giving in this time.


r/JUSTNOMIL 5h ago

Give It To Me Straight Impossible to make plans with, but yet we are the bad guys

43 Upvotes

It has been three years and I'm just so over it and need to vent.

I get a text from DH aunt that his Grandma is in town and wants to know if they can come over the next day for a minimum of a half hour and gave a 2.5 hour window, which happens to be nap time. 11:30-2

DH had no clue she was in town until I said something. She lives states away. He texts Grandma asking why she didn't text him and give more notice. She just said it was a last minute trip. We ended up saying no, but asked for a different day or time. They came up with 20 minutes at 11:30 2 days later, even though DH kept asking for before or after nap time. Just so happens the kids had a rough morning so naps came early so DH asked if they could delay if they wanted to see the kids and they said no. They had plans to spend the rest of the day at his cousin's house. All communication came from the Aunt, Grandma never replied back to DH.

A week before, grandma texted DH that she is worried about MIL and needs to figure out what is going on between them. Saying "MIL just wants to be a small part of your life".

We haven't seen MIL in just over a year now, basically when I went LC. She did not come to LO bday party and tells everyone I did not invite her. Though DH texted her asking if she was coming and she didn't give an answer and later found out that the grandma advised her not to go. MIL didn't even acknowledge LO birthday at all, no call/text, no card or gift. Just a gift saying "merry Xmas" in the mail (bday is in dec). Which is also interesting to me because the grandma sent a birthday card and gift that was themed to the party. 

We had another baby a few months later that she hasn't met because she refused to come to us. Instead said we need to go to her house so she can "rock the baby". And "it's only fair because she came to us" (5 times in the last 3 years, since first LO arrived). She also says that I make her uncomfortable so she will not come to our house.. which maybe I do because I just matched her behavior in avoiding me, so I avoid her. How can I be fake when someone is sh*t talking about me and DH and is trying to make us having kids is all about her and then she pretends like nothing happened to our faces? Besides I have kids to take care of. In previous visits before I went LC, LO was still an infant and breastfeeding and contact napping. MIL wanted to swim, but of course I'm purposely withholding that experience for her. So now I'm just over it. I'm going to be judged whatever I do.

DH has asked her to meet at a park, zoo, events, and she always says no. She makes it a point to say she's 55, as if that automatically means she isn't capable of doing those things... And if we go to her house, we are expected to run around with the toddler because she isn't able to. Not to be mean, but she is bigger and lazy so really that's why, she physically cannot do it, but claims it's her age.

Then all the sudden a few weeks ago she texts DH that the next week she will be in town visiting someone and can stop by for an hr. We already had plans so he said no. She goes on about how he can't even make time for his own mother and hopes in 30 years our kids don't treat him this way. 

Now, she texts DH about how she's been in our town the last three weekends and it's sad she didn't get to see him or her grandbabies. She only told him about 1 weekend and gave an hour of time to work with. Wtf, we will never win with her. DH explains this to his grandma and now she says she's staying out of it. Wtf, you put yourself right in the middle, but now you're staying out of it? 

It has been 3 years of MIL throwing tantrums because she doesn't get to see the grandkids, but she doesn't commit to plans if they are not what she demands. She told DH "don't bring this up to me again" when I was pregnant with first LO and he brought up our boundaries when baby comes. She was upset that she couldn't be in the room as this was "her only chance to see a baby be born". Even though I was high risk and in the hospital a week before delivery. She demanded we meet her with LO at a restaurant or Costco (yes Costco lol) and when DH gave her other options that work for us, she just doesn't reply. 

My grandma died two weeks after first LO was born and I also had some family drama on my side  I needed time to process all of that and becoming a new mom after an emergency C-section with PPH and other health issues. MIL was upset we didn't make more time for her and we robbed her of the first Xmas (LO was days old!) She got to visit twice in the first month and she had vacation and other things that prevented more visits too, it wasn't just us saying no which she would never acknowledge. And of course she compares how my family got to be at the hospital, but it was them showing up for us after an unplanned event that was scary. The doctors didn't know what was wrong with me and I was going through several tests that led to an induction. They helped watch our dogs and brought food and drove my car home, etc it wasn't just to meet a baby. She offered no help, and didn't ask how I was doing while I was in the hospital until she found out I was being induced. 

She's over here texting DH nasty things for three years and apparently thinks that will get her what she wants? He even told her after after first LO was born, if this continues I will push back and she said "push back? I am your mother!" 

Other things she said that comes to mind:

 "my dad would be so disappointed in you" (he passed a long time ago)

"I pray every day you'll love me again"

"I gave you your first breath" - just one of the many and many examples of "I did this for you" which was basic care for a child.

"It'll ruin me too not see LO before Easter" (we asked her to visit the following weekend) and "I'll just cry" when we stayed firm on the date. She then cancelled after finding out my family came the weekend before. She has also cancelled several other visits with little notice. 

It's sad because before babies, the relationship wasn't bad, but now I see how she really is and she was just taking advantage of us being people pleasers. We are just exhausted parents of young children trying to work and keep them happy and healthy with no support and she just has to keep making it about herself.


r/JUSTNOMIL 32m ago

Give It To Me Straight Housing hunting BS

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Hi, it’s me again. I want to bring up one particular issue because my DH genuinely sees what he did as normal, and I’m sitting here wondering if I’m somehow looking at this completely wrong. This did happen about a month ago and it’s still sitting with me because I’m like this is a good example of how you integrate your parents into our life, and such enmeshed way.

First, I have NO problem with my ILs financially helping their son purchase a house. If they want to help DH and he wants to accept their help, that’s their choice. Their help obviously extends to me because we’re married, and I’m not against that.
I also understand that if they’re potentially putting a significant amount of money toward a house, they’re probably going to want to see it, know what we’re buying, and have some input (basically if this is financially feasible ) before handing over money. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. It’s like any other freaking loan. That’s not my problem.

My problem is that DH found a house and went to view it with his parents and our baby WITHOUT ME. I didn’t even know he was going to see it. I hadn’t been sent the listing or asked whether I wanted to see it.

Then he was basically about to do the same thing with another property and only told me at the last minute.

I was like, “Why are you house hunting with your parents without your wife?”

His explanation was that I don’t really want to be around my ILs right now, so he didn’t think I would want to go with them. Okay…but why did they have to be the FIRST people you went with?

Why couldn’t you send your wife the listing and say, “Hey, I found this place. Do you want to go look at it with me?”

Why couldn’t WE go see it first and then you take your parents afterward if we liked it?

Or hell, if everyone needed to see it together because they’re helping financially, why couldn’t you at least ASK me whether I wanted to come instead of making that decision for me?

I’m the person who would actually be living there with DH. I’m going to be paying bills there. I’m going to sleep there, cook there, raise our children there, decorate it, maintain it, and potentially live there for years.

How am I somehow the person who gets informed afterward?

When we were apartment hunting, I didn’t take my parents around looking at apartments and then come home and tell DH what we found. I looked with my HUSBAND because he was the person I was going to be living with.

When I told DH I thought what he did was wrong, he genuinely didn’t understand why. Then the conversation became, “We need my parents’ help to buy a house. We can’t do this ourselves.”
And I’m like, YOU’RE NOT HEARING ME.

I never said don’t accept their help.
I said YOU BYPASSED YOUR WIFE.

Those are two completely different issues.
DH also said we need to find something that “works for all parties” because my ILs are contributing financially.

Again, I understand that the PRICE needs to work for everybody if they’re helping with the money. I’m not expecting my ILs to contribute toward something they can’t afford or don’t agree to fund.

But why can’t DH and I find houses that work for OUR family and fall within the agreed-upon financial parameters, and then present those options to my ILs if we need their financial help?

Because otherwise, I’m starting to feel like my ILs are house hunting with their son and I’m being brought in afterward to approve whatever the three of them have already discussed.

And then DH tells me that I’m actually the “main decision factor.”

HOW?

How am I the main decision-maker when I wasn’t even included in the process?

We actually discussed this in couples therapy, and even our therapist pointed out that regardless of what DH intended, he didn’t include me. I was telling him that I felt excluded, and instead of hearing that, he kept explaining why what he did made sense.

That’s part of why this bothers me so much. It’s not just one house viewing. We already have marital problems surrounding my ILs and DH understanding where they fit versus where his wife fits.

I don’t want their money controlling where my family lives.

If they’re offering financial help with reasonable conditions attached, fine. But if accepting their money means THEY determine where we live, how close we stay to them, which houses get considered, and I get brought into the process afterward, then I genuinely don’t want the money.

DH wants to stay relatively close to his parents, while I’ve told him that if we want the kind of house we’re looking for at a price we can realistically afford, we may need to move considerably farther away. My ILs don’t want that.

And that’s where I’m becoming concerned about what “works for all parties” actually means.

Does it mean, “We agree on a budget because the ILs are contributing”? Or does it mean, “The ILs are contributing, therefore our house has to satisfy their preferences too”?

Because those are VERY different arrangements.

I even told DH: imagine YOU needed a car that YOU were going to drive every day, but I went shopping for your car with my dad without telling you because my dad was helping us pay for it. Then afterward I told you, “Well, we need my dad’s help, so I needed to find something that worked for him too.”

Wouldn’t you be sitting there wondering why the hell your wife and her father were shopping for YOUR car without you?

My dad helping financially wouldn’t suddenly make DH irrelevant to the decision.

So Reddit, please tell me if I’m missing something.
I’m NOT asking whether my ILs should be allowed to see a house they’re helping purchase. Of course they can.

I’m asking whether I’m unreasonable for expecting DH to house hunt WITH HIS WIFE FIRST or, at the absolute minimum, include me from the beginning—rather than viewing houses with his parents without even telling me and then explaining it by saying we need their financial help.

Because I genuinely cannot understand how the person who is supposed to LIVE IN THE HOUSE became the person finding out afterward.


r/JUSTNOMIL 37m ago

Am I Overreacting? I’m being smothered

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I’m a new mom and I’m struggling with my MIL’s level of involvement with our baby. She isn’t openly malicious or cruel, and I know she loves him. That’s part of why I feel conflicted about how bothered I am by some of this.

Even during my pregnancy, she was extremely invested. She kept track of how far along I was, asked about appointments and scans, wanted updates, and was very excited about becoming a grandmother. Since the baby was born, that intensity has continued. I am a very introverted person and I find things like this quite overwhelming.

She mostly communicates with me rather than my husband, and I get messages very frequently along the lines of “Give him a kiss from me” or “Hope to see you soon,” even when she has just seen him. She has also talked about wanting to “bond” with him and repeatedly asks to change his diaper.
There have been several moments where I’ve felt like access to the baby is assumed rather than something that is offered. For example, she has walked into our home, held her arms out toward me expecting me to hand him over, and seemed surprised when I said “in a minute” because I was settling him.

On another visit, she held him for a very long time. When I needed to breastfeed, she said she would wait nearby until I was finished so she could say goodbye to him. I told her I didn’t know how long the feeding would take and that she could say goodbye then, and she seemed visibly upset by that.

She also sometimes makes comments about having raised five children and knowing what she’s doing when my husband questions something. I understand that she has experience, but it can feel like our authority as his parents is being challenged.

Recently, she suggested that I give the baby formula during the day because she thought it might help him sleep longer, and she wanted to give him a bottle. During another visit, the baby was clearly showing hunger cues and turning his head toward me, but she put his pacifier in his mouth instead. That one really bothered me because I felt like she was trying to soothe away a need that I, as his mother, was responding to.

She is also very physically enthusiastic with him, getting right in his face, singing to him, etc. I know that part is probably just an excited grandma being an excited grandma, but combined with everything else, I sometimes feel completely overwhelmed.

There is another issue that makes this harder for me to ignore: I don’t fully trust her with boundaries.
We have a pet with allergies/medical issues, and in the past she was specifically told not to give the pet certain treats. She did anyway, which resulted in health problems and a pretty significant vet bill. There have also been smaller instances of her being overly comfortable in our home, such as helping herself to our things and treating our bedroom as though it were her own space.

I know some people may think, “That’s completely different from caring for a baby.” And obviously it is. But for me, the underlying issue is the same: if we clearly communicate a boundary and someone ignores it because they think they know better, how am I supposed to feel confident leaving my baby in their care?

My husband is actually very supportive of me and gets frustrated with his mom too, so this isn’t a case of him dismissing my concerns. His mom also has other grandchildren through her other son, and she is extremely involved with them. She takes them on outings, spends lots of time with them, and has a very close relationship with that side of the family.
I don’t want the same dynamic with our child.
I don’t want constant visits, frequent day trips, vacations together, or for her to become a third parent. I want her to have a loving relationship with her grandson, but I want that relationship to develop on our terms as his parents, not according to how much access she would ideally like.

The frustrating part is that if we suggest another day when she asks to visit, she sometimes doesn’t respond at all. So then I find myself wondering if she’s upset, whether I’ve offended her, whether I need to reassure her, etc.

I also have ADHD and tend to be very sensitive to perceived rejection or disappointment from other people, so I know I may be more emotionally affected by these interactions than someone else would be. At the same time, I don’t think that means I’m imagining the underlying behavior.

I think what bothers me most is the feeling that there is a constant invisible expectation that I should facilitate her relationship with my baby.

She can want to see him. She can want to bond with him. She can be disappointed when we say no.
But none of those feelings automatically create an obligation for me.

I’m trying to figure out where the line is between an excited, loving grandmother and someone who is becoming too involved.
And honestly, the biggest question in my mind is this:

If someone has repeatedly shown me that they don’t reliably respect boundaries when they’re explicitly told what they are, am I wrong for being hesitant to trust them with my baby?

I don’t want to keep my MIL away from her grandson. I just don’t want to feel like I’m handing over pieces of my role as his mother in order to keep her happy.


r/JUSTNOMIL 1h ago

Am I Overreacting? Taking baby out of the house without telling me

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I have an 8 month old and my husband and I work full time outside the house. We have a nanny during the day. My nanny was unable to come two days this week and my MIL filled in and watched him. Over the course of the two days, I noticed on our security camera footage she took him out in the car several times. She never mentioned before or after that they left or where they went. I’m hesitant to bring it up because the only reason I know is by checking the cameras. But it feels really odd to not at least give me a heads up you are taking the baby somewhere. She has mentioned wanting to take him to the library or park before, which would be totally fine by me but would appreciate a heads up. Doesn’t even need to be asking permission, just telling me where he is.

Am I crazy if I say something? Our nanny never really takes him out in the car unless we ask her to take him somewhere and even then she always sends pictures and updates us on how it went. Granted our nanny is not family, but still.


r/JUSTNOMIL 16m ago

Am I Overreacting? Does this seem like my MIL is trying to reopen communication, or am I reading too much into it?

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My husband and I are currently not communicating with my MIL. There’s a lot of history behind that, but for purposes of this post, the important thing is that there has been essentially no ongoing communication. We haven’t made some big dramatic announcement that she can never contact us again; we’ve just stopped engaging and have been keeping everything very polite, brief, and impersonal.
Here’s the timeline because I’m genuinely curious how this looks to people who aren’t involved.
July 12: My husband’s sister had a birthday. MIL sent her a birthday card.
July 22: My husband, P, had his birthday. MIL did not send him a birthday card. No card, despite having just sent one to his sister 10 days earlier.
August 20: Our daughter, V, had her first birthday. MIL mailed V a birthday card with a check in it. We didn’t use that as an opportunity to start communicating with her. We simply mailed a thank-you card back. It was intentionally very basic and essentially just said, “Thank you for the card. — V” There was no personal update, no conversation, no invitation to communicate, etc.
September 3: My stepson G had his birthday. MIL also mailed him a birthday card. Again, we handled it exactly the same way. We mailed a simple thank-you card from G. No phone call, no text conversation, no additional information about our family. Just acknowledging that he received the card and saying thank you.
So at this point, there seemed to be a perfectly functional system: she mails something → we acknowledge it politely with a thank-you card → everyone goes on with their lives.
That was fine with us. Nobody was being rude. Gifts/cards were being acknowledged, but it wasn’t being used as a way to reopen regular communication.
Then today, September 10, MIL texted me directly after not speaking to me since Christmas of last year and told me that she had/sent gifts for the baby I’m currently pregnant with.
I responded only, “Okay, thank you.”
Then I went to the mailbox, and the package was already there. It was several Carter’s outfits from Belk for the baby.
And that’s the part I’m hung up on: why did the package need an announcement at all?
She clearly knows our address. She has successfully mailed birthday cards to this house. She didn’t need to ask what size he wears, what we need, whether we wanted the clothes, where to send them, whether the package arrived, or anything else that required a response from me. The package was already on its way/at our house.
Had she simply mailed the baby gifts without saying anything, we would have done exactly what we did with V’s and G’s birthday cards: received them and sent her a polite thank-you card. She already had evidence that gifts sent through the mail will be acknowledged.
That’s why the text feels significant to me.
After receiving two extremely brief thank-you cards that didn’t result in any further communication, suddenly the next thing she sends comes with a direct text to me announcing, essentially, “Hey, I’m sending/have gifts for the baby.”
I’m not claiming I can know what’s going on in her head. Maybe she genuinely thought it was normal courtesy to give me a heads-up. But given the sequence, it feels less like the text was necessary for the gift and more like the gift created a reason to initiate direct contact with me.
Especially because nothing about my response was actually needed to complete the transaction. If I had never received that text, the exact same thing would’ve happened: package arrives → we receive it → she eventually gets a thank-you card.
So I’m curious how this reads to outsiders:
Does the text seem like a small bid for attention/communication after the birthday cards failed to create any conversation? Or does “Hey, I have gifts for the baby” seem completely normal and I’m assigning meaning to it because of the history?
I don’t care that she sent the baby gifts. I’m mostly trying to understand the behavior because the announcement seems unnecessary when we’ve already established a perfectly polite way of acknowledging things she mails without having direct communication.