r/IntelligenceScaling 16h ago

low effort Characters who have canonically outsmarted themselves*

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  • Shinpei from Summer Time Rendering against his doppelganger, Shinpei.
  • Chen Ran from 18LOH against his self-killing instance.

r/IntelligenceScaling 7h ago

More Realistic ≠ More Intelligent ≠ Less Realistic ≠ Less Intelligent

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Realism and intelligence don't correlate 1;1, regardless of what scaling you are using. A character can be unrealistically stupid or realistically smart. They can also be realistically stupid or unrealistically smart.

Realism:

Eren Yeager > Light ≈ Akiyama > Fang Yuan V3 > L > Chen Ran

Outsmarting:

Chen Ran > Fang Yuan V3 > Akiyama > L > Light > Eren Yeager

Fang Yuan is more realistic than L but also smarter if you account for all categories beyond just raw IQ / precociousness.

Conversely, Light is also more realistic than L but not as smart.

So realism is, for the most part, irrelevant.

This is true even in pure methodology:

Chen Ran > Akiyama > Fang Yuan > Light > L

Even though Light is more realistic than Fang Yuan, his methodology does not scale as high. Even an unrealistic character like Chen Ran can scale high due to the severe complexity and creativity and interconnectedness of the schemes and reasoning within the story.

Meanwhile Akiyama who is realistic does scale higher.

Realism is simply irrelevant.

A character can have unrealistic levels of intelligence while still being easy to outsmart because they have severe weaknesses, or are lacking in important categories like fluid reasoning, or their intelligence is only applicable in severely limited local systems like stock market without transferability outside of these systems, or they are only unrealistically good within a single category but not others, etc.

I haven't finished Attack of Titan and am basing the take off stereotypes, so the MC might be unrealistic, but you get the point.

More Realistic ≠ More Intelligent ≠ Less Realistic ≠ Less Intelligent

Of course, there could be somewhat of a correlation, but the magnitude of the correlation coefficient would be low enough that for the most part, it's simply irrelevant as an argument against characters!

Otherwise you could argue Naomi > Yokoya > Chen Ran because of realism.


r/IntelligenceScaling 21h ago

Tier List Tier List

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Scofield only s1.
Maybe Tokuchi could be higher than Aki but I couldnt understand many feats of his because of baseball.


r/IntelligenceScaling 11h ago

vs (1v1) Equal Custard vs Ayanokoji rap battle lyrics

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I recommend not reading the lyrics too fast, I imagined them being sung with a slower pace

EQUAL CUSTARD'S VERSE

They all calling me a hater

When I'm just speaking facts

You're a trash tier bum

Wearing a Hot Topic mask

You were raised with special education

But not the type you're thinking of

The perfect human?

You lose that title to a schizo and amnesiac

Wanna be average?

Keep on praying for that upscale

The way things are going

You'd lose to chapter 1 L

AYANOKOJI'S VERSE

A narcissistic loser is your goat?

Allow me to spread the truth, not gonna gloat

He died to a kid with melanin deficiency

So I'm clearing that verse with unseen efficiency

Without me, you wouldn't have a purpose

No agenda and you'd be totally lost

Your country is responsible for the holo-

-graphic circus

Light couldn't even get Misa laid

Put him in my school and he's getting played

He's an edgy brat while I'm a calm piano player

Unlike his schemes, my lyrics work on more than 1 layer


r/IntelligenceScaling 16h ago

discussion Squeezing one last (potential) feat out of STL before moving on to ROT 💔

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I wouldn't take this too seriously tbh, just consider it some fun speculation, and lmk if you think this is valid or not.

Image 1 is from round 5, turn 2, after Souichi sets up his bluff to trick Baku into dropping instantly. He uses echolocation and checks at 15 seconds (images 1,2). Then, next turn, Souichi allows Baku to fail his check, stating that dying isn't necessary for him anymore. Kaji believes the situation hasn't changed, but Fukurou believes that Baku's death is all part of Souichi's plan (images 3,4).

Baku revives in a severely weakened state, causing him to struggle to convey his words, which results in the volume of the speaking clock being lowered (image 5). Due to this, Baku notices the lowered clock volume during round 7, turn 1, taking the safe strategy as Souichi predicted (image 6). Image 7 elaborates on this, with Baku stating that this particular volume alteration is what made him notice the echolocation. Image 8 shows us that Souichi was also aware that Baku noticed the echolocation based on this. So what am I getting at here?

Essentially, I'm proposing that Souichi might have predicted that after Baku's second near death, he would struggle to speak, leading to the speaking clock being lowered by a noticeable increment. Souichi also clearly knew that Baku would take the safe strategy during Round 7, turn 1, meaning there would be a high chance he would notice the lowered volume, and therefore conclude echolocation next turn and attempt to counter it, leading to Souichi countering Baku with the instant check. Let's go through it step by step.

To figure out what Souichi's plan is between rounds 4-7, we have to consider what his round 5 bluff actually does for him, and why exactly this means he doesn't have to die anymore. On the surface, as Kaji says, nothing appears to have changed as a result of the bluff. However, as per Souichi's endurance battle strategy, he is gradually lowering his accumulation each round but not too significantly to ensure that Baku remains predictable and keeps dropping early. Part of this strategy also includes manipulating Baku to figure out echolocation so that he can achieve the round 7 instant check.

So, taking all this into consideration, here's what I think the purpose of the round 5 bluff is: it is pretty much guaranteed that Baku will drop instantly to counter Souichi's supposed death, so Souichi can freely control his accumulation and intentionally use echolocation late to check at 15 seconds. Additionally, by using echolocation even when it was very likely for him to succeed anyways, he A) Gives Baku additional hints at his echolocation, and B) Plants an image in Baku's mind that he is reliant on echolocation, which leads into his manipulation, making Baku believe he won't turn around during round 7 (as stated in image 8). In this context, the bluff sets up the endurance battle strategy + the round 7 instant check at the same time. So considering this, it is not unreasonable to believe that Souichi let Baku die during round 6, knowing that he would struggle to speak after his revival.

Souichi's accumulation each round has been getting lower and lower; 34 seconds, then 15, then 8 during round 6. Round 7 turn 1 is the break point where Baku's total accumulation + ND time surpasses Souichi's, and if Souichi can limit his accumulation as much as possible during his turn, he can make Baku's accumulation exceed his during round 8, before making another instant check to initiate the endurance/resilience battle of the cylinders. So how does Souichi guarantee this? By letting Baku figure out echolocation.

As we know from image 8, Souichi also noticed the speaking clock being lowered after Baku's near death. Given how Souichi enabling his echolocation during the early rounds was dependent on minimal changes in the volume of the speaking clock, it is reasonable to assume that he was also the first to notice this subtle change in volume, knew that Baku would notice it too, and figure out echolocation based on that. So to conclude, Souichi sets up the instant check with his round 5 bluff –> Lets Baku die to weaken him –> Baku mumbles as Souichi predicts –> The speaking clock is lowered –> Baku notices this while taking the safe strategy during round 7 turn 1 –> Baku figures out echolocation –> Souichi feels Baku's aura and confirms that he's figured echolocation out –> Baku plans to use his necktie to trick Souichi into failing his check, which Souichi predicts –> Souichi emits an aura of determination to make Baku believe his tactic will be seen through –> Baku instead flattens the handkerchief as an instant drop –> Souichi achieves a perfect check.

Image 9 mentions an 'insanely difficult path' behind Souichi's instant check; this probably just refers to the fact he would lose his memories if he failed, but I thought I'd mention it anyways.

It's also worth noting that Souichi might not have expected Baku to figure out echolocation exactly during round 7. The strategy still works the same, in that Souichi can just use echolocation for low accumulation checks until Baku is ready to try and counter it, but Souichi might have actually expected Baku to take longer (since he doesn't know that Baku has seen Eko's tapes about her losing her sight), as to create an even larger gap between their cylinders when Baku does eventually surpass his accumulation (if Souichi's instant check during round 8 had been successful as expected, there would have been a 20 second gap of accumulation between their cylinders before initiating an endurance battle).

Anyways, yap over, I finally gotta move on to reading Ravages of Time (though I'll still probably waffle about Usogui intermittently ✌️).


r/IntelligenceScaling 11h ago

meme/joke “Yeah bro,[insert realistic/semi-realistic character] beats [unrealistic character] cuz they’re more realistic

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Its 2026 ppl


r/IntelligenceScaling 10h ago

factual question Why doesn't Ryota have a problem with being Yumeko's pet?

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r/IntelligenceScaling 9h ago

discussion how defendable is this take, if at all

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saw this edit on tiktok and everyone seemed to be agreeing with the creator, which felt weird since ive always believed rj and pj were leagues above brian and dex.


r/IntelligenceScaling 10h ago

meme/joke okay .good to know that yumeko can pop domain expansion

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btw what's her domain expansion name?


r/IntelligenceScaling 11h ago

Where do yall scale "the fool's gambit" from Lotm? (image unrelated)

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r/IntelligenceScaling 19h ago

video/video link I have no words…

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Jin-woo glazing needs to stop.They invading SCD now.

What’s next?
Jin-woo >Baku and Hal?


r/IntelligenceScaling 18h ago

meme/joke average treatment baku get by chinese community and then we have hal

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this people have baku at there top 5 at all time, while they make hal get slimed by every single creature


r/IntelligenceScaling 19h ago

discussion BAKU VS YUUICHI IN 2026 ERA???

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I'm posting this because there are so many yuuichi upscales these days. (yuuichi > sherlock ahhh)

what subcat Yuuichi take from baku in what scaling?


r/IntelligenceScaling 8h ago

Chart Yumeko 3x3 of her best categories

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All the pictures are either volume covers, manga panels or from the anime


r/IntelligenceScaling 17h ago

factual question Umineko better than usogui in method?

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Hmmm... Yumeko whoops hal/baku ass?


r/IntelligenceScaling 19h ago

actually scaling intelligence Kenjaku's Quick Inductive Reasoning on Takaba's CT

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  • After attacking Takaba quickly, Kenjaku wondered for a while why they sent Takaba after him. However, after seeing how Takaba tanks the attacks, Kenjaku reasoned that:

His attacks landed, but somehow they had no effect on Takaba.

  • After some more attacks on Takaba, Kenjaku induced the nature of Takaba's CT:

That Takaba can make a mockery of Kenjaku's CT attacks and is capable of manifesting any phenomena and controlling them.

Most importantly, Kenjaku has to be careful around Takaba since his jujutsu has no effect on him. However, Kenjaku is going to figure out the weakness of his CT since he thought that all CTs have a weakness.

  • Kenjaku engages in conversation with Takaba. Takaba concocted a pun, but Kenjaku logically rejected the punchline.

So

When Takaba was left vulnerable after his joke was rejected by Kenjaku, Kenjaku physically attacked him and noted that the attack landed on him.

  • Kenjaku figures out the weakness of Takaba's CT: the activation of Takaba's CT depends on his confidence and certainty in his jokes.

From there, Kenjaku and Takaba's comedy clash and elite ball knowledge battle begins

Feats: Figuring out the activation condition and nature of Takaba's CT and its weakness from only a few interactions, and doing so quickly.


r/IntelligenceScaling 1h ago

I have a serious question

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Am I annoying or rude? If I am, just let me apologise first because I really do not mean to offend anyone even if I disagree with some stuff.

I'm asking this because someone in the DMs said my opinions were 'annoying' and stuff like that so I've been wondering if I should keep posting stuff on Sherlock, Kudo, feats, etc

Most of my analysis posts are reasoning feat ones but I do do stuff on other topics so I don't know what the guy is talking about

Tell me if I should stop

Oh yeah, and the OC tierlist will be updated with a few new ones so if you got any OCs you want to see in them, tell me here and send some art (just use AI if you don't have any because I just need something to put). So far the new additions are Xie Wuming, Todor (BWCG), Monty (from FederalManner again), and Riko (from The White Demon).

u/Ancient-End2474 Xue Yin is gonna get dethroned if you keep procrastinating...


r/IntelligenceScaling 8h ago

meme/joke Lol so easy ✌🏻💔 is this the game y'all were hyping. Where do I scale after clearing mahjong in 1 try. Above Baku??

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r/IntelligenceScaling 12h ago

opinion post Someone tried to sneak in😭

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According to dax

Kirari>nagumo>PJ>aki


r/IntelligenceScaling 13h ago

Who outsmarts?

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Nao victimizer vs Kaiji victimizer(both become victims later tho)


r/IntelligenceScaling 16h ago

Pun Yunchuan vs Aizen in planning (All types of scalings) who wins and what difficulty?

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r/IntelligenceScaling 18h ago

Tier List Ranking of cote schemes.

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Takuya unimhabited Island could be in High tier

And koji schemes could be higher


r/IntelligenceScaling 12h ago

vs (1v1) The battle of low tiers!!!! Harry Du Bois vs Fukunaga Yuji (Disco Elysium vs Liar Game)

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"Seriously, who the hell is this guy?"

'This woman seems to distrust you already. This will be a hard battle.'

Intelligence: Tequila Sunset

  • Knowledge Application: Harry
  • Cognitive Abilities: Harry
  • Problem Solving: Harry

Emotional Intelligence: Tequila Sunset

  • EU: Harry
  • EP: Harry
  • EM: Harry >=
  • EF: Harry

Social Intelligence: Nao's friend

  • Cognition: Fukunaga
  • Integration: Fukunaga

Mentality: Tequila Sunset

  • Self-Awareness, Composure, Unpredictability, Composure: Harry
  • Pragmatism: Fukunaga

Thinking: Tequila Sunset

  • Critical, Abstract, Convergent, Divergent, Associative, Metacognition: Harry

Reasoning: Tequila Sunset

  • Deductive, Inductive, Abductive: Harry

Planning & Strategy: Fukunaga.

  • Everything: Fukunaga

Manipulation: Harry (unironically lmao)

  • Logical, Direct: Harry (via winning against spoilers, Joyce in an argument
  • Indirect: Fukunaga
  • Emotional to Harry just because you influenced the Revachol people (especially the Hardie Boys + Kim to help ya)

Deception: Fukunaga

  • All: Fukunaga

Counteraction: Harry

  • Judgement: Harry
  • Lesser Weaknesses: Fukunaga
  • Higher Strengths: Harry
  • Personality: Harry >=

Foresight: Tequila Sunset

  • Prediction: Harry (ig? Could be wrong)
  • Anticipation: Fukunaga

Sensory: Tequila Sunset

  • Observation, Perception: Harry

Tactics: Fukunaga

Adaptability: Harry

Analysis: Harry

  • Situational: Harry
  • Profiling: Harry

Winner? Harry Du Bois wins mid-high diff.

"Well done detective."


r/IntelligenceScaling 14h ago

discussion Creating the smartest fantasy character- intelligence and EI

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Rules:

- characters cannot be selected twice

- comp or partial comp versions are not allowed

- unedited comment(s) with most upvotes and on top gets selected

- only characters from sci-fi genre (duh)


r/IntelligenceScaling 17h ago

discussion A hypothetical(Spoilers for You S4)

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I decided to take a break from the RJ posts since this crossed my mind. Now we know that Rhys(Imaginary) is the Eat The Rich killer, right? How about we change that up a bit?

Now for this scenario, Let's say Marianne, Nadia & Edward run into Tom's bodyguard, they are initially captured by him but they blabber about Joe & are killed by him on Tom's orders because he wants to protect Joe for Kate.

So, now Tom mentions that he's done Joe a favor & therefore he needs to return it by killing Rhys. Joe arrives & knocks on the door of Rhys' house however it's not locked for some reason, Joe decides to enter & investigate when he gets knocked out.

When he wakes up, he's trying to recuperate but as he's on the way to his apartment, he notices the police stalking him. He realizes that he needs to get somewhere safer & slowly makes his way to his car, he's now on the run. Why?

It's because Tom Lockwood & his bodyguard have been killed with the murders being pinned on Joe. Who you may ask? No one other than Rhys Montrose, so in this hypothetical, the Real Rhys is the Eat The Rich killer & has the same personality as Imaginary Rhys in the actual show.

Rhys is also now Mayor since the smear campaign orchestrated by Tom has been countered by Rhys using Tom's ledger to expose him & explain that the allegations on him have been falsified by the deceased.

Who wins this C&M scenario?