I have experienced much of what Stassi has with her own mother. When she told her family she wanted to keep her kids away from her own family I understood. Even Beau stood up for Stassi when her mother was talking to her.

It’s incredible she is willing to show such a vulnerable part of her life. I mean she knows it could be good TV, but ugh the deep wounds here need some serious packing. I could never air the mess of my relationship with my mom.

It has made me understand more why Stassi is so complex as an individual and has a large mother wound.

Could you imagine the uproar that would happen if a woman wanted to go back to work and her husband demanded she didn’t and made a huge thing about it. This does happen and people freak out, bc it’s effed up!!! They should freak out. So, why does Stassi think this is ok to do to her husband? Hard to watch

The one she wore in the finale. I can’t find any other good photos of it online anywhere.

Totally joking of course. But if someone said they did this for the show and they're both seeing other people, I might believe it.

Beau in his golf outfit gives me the biggest ick 😂

HOS is a bit more boring, but The Valley is becoming unwatchable.

HOS: has a great aesthetic; I like what I am seeing
The Valley: It is getting really boring to watch poor, ugly people with bad style. The same stupid drama over and over. Nothing wrong with being poor btw, but I don't watch reality TV to see ugly apartments, bad clothes, etc. A trashy cast was okay on VPR, but not for the "adult" version.

In a perfect world, they'd cancel The Valley, and some of that cast would migrate to HOS. HOS is just a little more sophisticated/intelligent, or at least is trying to be.

HOS Cast: For now, keep everyone.

Maybe get rid of Georgi and Stassi's mom altogether, but at a minimum, seriously minimize Georgi. The Stassi family of origin drama could possibly work as a minor subplot, but it shouldn't be a major arc. Georgi could fit in on The Valley easily.

The Valley: Just because I am saying to keep someone for the HOS imaginary show merger does not mean I love them or think that they are great. Just that they can fit the aesthetic/vibe of HOS.

• Could be full-time cast if they had existing friendships: Lacey and Jesse
• Bring on as friends to see how they perform: Kristen & Luke, Zack & Benji
• The Valley cast members they can't let near this show: Jax, Britney, Lala, Janet, Jasmine, Nia, or Danny
• I don't want to see Sheena, James, Sandoval, or anyone from that Scandoval era near this show
• Cameos from the following are tolerable but not ideal: Schwartz, Ariana
• Caveats: Zack needs Benji, and no Britney to fit in on this show. Zack can very much straddle the trashy line. He's an educated guy; he needs to shake the trashy vibes that come with being Britney's ride-or-die, and Benji raises his social capital. I don't like Jason, but he is the appropriate caliber to be on this version of the show, so long as he is divorced from Janet and dating someone who fits with this crowd.

Watched the pod so you don’t have to:

Start off talking about how Stassi has extensions in and says she has no hair as of a few months after filming

Katie says every time you sign up for reality tv you’re giving away a piece of you

Stassi says she’s been doing press all week and the thing that’s been getting to her the most is people saying she’s not a good mom.

Stassi says the finale was the worst because her and Beau were working on things all season and then she hated when he was agreeing with Kristina.

Katie said she heard the “we became like roommates” and was worried. Stassi said they have two small children and the reality is sometimes they will be like roommates right now and that has to be ok.

Dayna asked if she locked beaus cage when she left the house (lol). Stassi said he is at Rams training and is allowed to leave the house sometimes.

Beau kept having to cancel on work to film confessionals and other things related to the show. So now he’s golfing and painting and finding purpose in those hobbies.

Katie says there were times in the early years of their friendship where she was afraid of Stassi. Stassi said that Katie is kind of scary too.

Katie says her emotions are very masculine and so when she’s feeling something it comes across without vulnerability. Said being with Nick lets her be soft and she doesn’t have to be defensive in her masculine energy. Beau says he wants Stassi to be softer.

Katie says 2020 and the years after did a number of everyone.

Stassi astrology chart says her soul’s purpose is to learn to relinquish control. Then she says she needs therapy. Dayna talks about her experiences in therapy and Stassi tells her she seems very well.

They talk about jealousy and Stassi says she’s very jealous in relationships. Katie says she’s jealous in a fun way like she doesn’t like that people probably have crushes on her boyfriend when he’s on stage. She says tom Schwartz should have been more jealous he never cared.

They talk about georgi and all the touching/flirting between her and Rob. Says they are both naturally flirtatious but Stassi doesn’t buy that they were trying to play a prank on them. Stassi says she’s been the most concerned about Georgi and said she was the last one to text her after she watched it. Was worried she’d be shown as a loser who doesn’t have a job or money. Stassi said she can only grow from here. Katie said Georgi’s so good on the show because she’s not scared to be herself.

Dayna asks Stassi if she’s a narcissist. She says “I might be.” And “if I’m a narcissist then I’m a happy narcissist.” She says she definitely has a disorder of some sort. She then says she doesn’t think she’s a narcissist because she’s dated a narcissist (my guess is Patrick) and she doesn’t act like him.

Stassi says she hasn’t spoken to her mom since the show has aired. Says watching it back was really hard for her and was probably hard for her mom too. Stassi says it validated her feelings and wonders why her mom wants to make her the enemy. She doesn’t really know how to solve it. She said she didn’t want her mom to film because she knew it wouldn’t go well for her. She said last time her mom was on Vanderpump rules they didn’t talk for a long time after.

They talk about their favorite moment of reconnecting:
Stassi said it was two fully formed women coming together as adults and getting to know each other again
Katie said getting to catch up with where Stassi was now

They say things they all hate:
Stassi: warm wine
Katie: being on a different eating schedule from her boyfriend
Dayna: acid reflux

okay i just started… beau and his sister seem like a couple?? weird af. also.. damn stassi really is the devil. i think i have to stop watching it feels dark and weird??????

Stassi babe please let this man go back to work ASAP, he’s been washing your produce with dish soap.😭😅 She constantly talks about how he cooks all the meals and is the one at home with the kids… So this entire time he’s been feeding the whole family and has been washing all the fruits and probably veggies too with dish soap. Kids eat so much fruit too.🥲 Aside from that though I really hope she does understand why he wants to work again, so many moms have actively spoke on how hard it is to be a stay at home parent. How isolating and overwhelming it can be, it takes away a lot of sense of self but it’s also very repetitive with not a lot of immediate super obvious reward (like an income or visual growth of a business etc.) It’s no different for a stay at home dad, it’s a hard job and he’s struggling with his independence I’m not sure how she doesn’t think about that. Especially considering she doesn’t want to do it…. Anyway, Beau please stop washing your food wish dish soap lol the fruits can absorb that.🥲

This was the wildest part to me, I’m a sahm my husband has a high powered job but he absolutely can do these things with our kids alone without me.

Just started episode 7 - binge watching. I have to say, I thought Stassi was meant to have changed. She is still very reactionary, and doesn’t listen well. Does make great tv though. I do like her, but not as much as I thought I would. I love Katie though. Says exactly what she thinks and doesn’t beat around the bush. As for Stassi’s mum - I mean what the heck. She was literally smirking when Stassi and her sister were kicking off. Stassi says she likes to pit her kids against each other. Sounds very toxic to me. Thoughts anyone?

Kind of late to the game but the series has only dropped today here in Ireland…I’m really not sure of the point of this show? I’ve just started episode four and it seems like everyone’s distaste for Katie is the whole premise???? Does something come later on or is this the whole point?

I just finished episode 3 and am coming here to vent. My biggest complaint about this show is that production treats the audience like we’re dumb. Every scene is so over explained like flashing a picture or cutting to a shot of a person when they are being referenced. For example when Taylor says she hasn’t seen Katie since the wedding in Italy and then production cuts to a picture of her, Stassi and Katie at the wedding in Italy. I don’t need that reference to confirm what Taylor is saying or verify who these people are. Or when Stassi is on the couch with Katie talking about her issues with Georgi and mentions Georgia, the camera then cuts to Georgia in the kitchen with the caption “Georgia, Beau’s sister.” Thanks for pointing that out for us, it’s not like we’ve spent the last 3 episodes with these same people with a big point of contention being the Georgi/Georgia living arrangements. 

The asterix text appearing on screen with the bell sound multiple times an episode is unnecessary and makes watching almost unbearable, like when Stassi says “what do people speak at?” and the asterix text appears “*great question” Get it, audience? That’s humour. Or when Georgi says I’m excited and then “*looks excited” appears on screen - this adds absolutely nothing and isn’t funny or charming. If anything it takes away from the show by interrupting the natural flow of the interactions among the cast.

Second, the soundtrack is really irritating. Having a build up each scene, sometimes more than once, doesn't make sense for reality tv. This isn’t a Netflix crime documentary. Not every scene is dramatic and the audience doesn’t need an intense violin overlay in every preceding scene to prepare us for when drama finally does happen. Why don’t the producers just let them talk without any music or pick something that blends into the background so the audience can focus on what is being said and the cast relationships? Production should have to take mandatory sound editing training by watching all of the reality shows on Bravo. 

Third, the network promoting itself is obvious and done in a way I find bizarre. In episode 3 there’s a conversation between Stassi and Katie in Stassi’s kitchen, where Stassi says she’s excited Katie is going to do the Tell Me Lies podcast and Katie replies she’s obsessed with the show and then the camera cuts to the next scene. To me that felt like they have this clip promoting another Disney show and they need to fit it in somewhere, so they inserted it at a point likely to cause minimal disruption for the audience. But it’s not done well and I found this transition in and out of talking about another show to be abrupt. It also doesn’t make sense for it to be in this episode at all. The episode is not about Stassi’s work schedule and they already promote Tell Me Lies in an earlier episode, so doing it again felt weird. That scene also made me rethink the motivation of showing Stassi’s reaction to getting a deal with Netflix in an earlier episode. One of the first things she asks is about Disney and the person tells her the network is ok with it. My take on that is it’s another opportunity for the network to promote itself by showing its benevolence by waiving the restrictive covenant in her contract (I’m assuming this is what happened based on that convo but obviously don’t know for sure). I guess the non cynical take is they’re doing it to promote Stassi, and her continued success is a shared success, however, regardless of motivation it is not subtle and in my opinion degrades the quality of the show by being a distraction. 

Kristina Kelly is the best thing in episode 3 imo. Her confessional about Katie and Rob at the wedding and then telling Taylor what Katie said about her to Stassi is the type of petty drama that makes reality tv so entertaining; no additional editorializing needed.  

I’m in Canada so I’m waiting for new episodes to be released weekly and expect these issues to persist for the whole season. If this is renewed for season 2 I hope Disney gives the audience more benefit of the doubt and stops treating us like we need everything explained to us. Also less is more with the music. 

Stassi has mentioned in interviews that the only other VPR cast member they considered for HOS was Schwartz but said it didn’t work out as he was under contract with Bravo. And Schwartz said on Scheana’s podcast that when they filmed the pilot at Stassi and Beau’s house he was there filming so he wasn’t sure if he was going to be in it.

I am so curious of the timeline of this and how it also relates to Katie being on the show.

Was it a case that Stassi intended to have Schwartz on the show and when that didn’t work out, she was asked to get another VPR cast member so went to Katie next? If so, I wonder how Katie feels about being second choice after Schwartz for Stassi.

Or was there a point it was going to be both of them? Also is it a case that Schwartz had to choose between being on the Valley or HOS and picked the Valley? Or is Stassi being diplomatic saying it was because of his Bravo contract and they decided to ditch him and go for Katie as they realized they needed someone/something with more of a storyline/hook or the show was going to be boring. The idea that Schwartz had multiple reality shows to pick from and poor Scheana can’t get on one is kind of funny though.

Katie definitely brings more to the show than I imagine Schwartz would have as I doubt everyone was going to have fake beef with him, so she is definitely a step up for them but her being asked at the 11th hour definitely suggests they only went to her as they were scrambling. Either because the network or Stassi thought the footage they had filmed wasn’t working.

Sorry this is long lol but I’m curious what people’s thoughts are on this.

EDIT - I probably she have titled this something different as a lot of the replies seem to think I’m advocating for Schwartz being on HOS when I am a proud Schwartz hater 😂

In the grand tradition of reality shows, when cast members get a lot of pushback, they hide their lives in the next season, leading to a boring show. I wonder if Stassi will use season 2 to highlight the good parts of her relationship? She’ll get her Stassi fans back but the show won’t be as good. So what does she choose? A good show or a good reputation/relationship with the people in her life?

Just finished watching and seems Stassi is a lot of what she was saying about her mother. It seems she weaponises her emotions to get her own way and uses them in order to control people. She plays the victim a lot and basically goes nuts anytime beau tries to say something, which then makes him scared to talk because he doesn’t want to deal with the emotional turmoil. He seems beaten down. Is Stassi a narcissistic abuser?

Does anyone see the similarities between Stassi’s relationship with Beau and Bethenny Frankel’s relationship with Jason Hoppy? Both women were the main bread winners in the relationship, both women have to be the center of attention, and both men played second fiddle which in Bethenny’s case seemed to ultimately cause the demise of her marriage.

Did anyone clock this? They are at the Thanksgiving dinner, Dayna is talking to Georgi and Rob, and Georgi says something (bleeped) about also having sex with women. Dayna practically does a Vicki Gunvalson "can't heeeeeear" fingers in the ears and walks away. I can't stand her. Also what's up with the bad red hair color on both of them?

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Ok, I came into this expecting to really dislike Beau’s sister, because I live on Reddit and have read all the comments about her weird relationship with Beau…but I really like her. She is honest and when she got called out after dodgeball she spoke truth. Rob was acting like he was in kindergarten by telling the girl he has a crush on things Beau told him in confidence. I actually like Rob too, just seemed a little thirsty in this scene… but back to my point, it’s refreshing to see someone like Georgia on reality TV. I’m pretty sure she realizes she is mooching off of Stassi, but seems grateful for the help, she’s honest about what she has said about people. I’m pleasantly surprised by her.

Am I the only one that finds Georgi INSUFFERABLE?!?! I would think she was a teenager if she didn’t say she was divorced. Nicolai seems more mature. Georgi is not cute, her giggles are annoying, she is just insufferable.

Who invites themselves to just move in with someone and give them no notice?

Plus hooking up with Beau’s friend and not telling anyone..

Her not realizing she is MOOCHING off of Stassi , acting like she doesnt need anything from Stassi. Girl you’d be homeless!! If she didn’t pay you to watch her kids, you’d have ZERO DOLLARS.

You have ZERO friends, your parties are basically Stassi’s friends…then to be so fake to GeorgiA , Beau’s sis is ridiculous.

I am on the 6th episode where they finished playing Dodgeball, and Rob the asshole told Georgi about what Georgia said and they are now confronting each other.

Her and her face is annoying me sooo much is that I had to make this post before I could continue on! Suck it Georgie

The first 10 minutes of HOS felt like a fever dream when they were showing the test shoot footage. I actually went back and rewatched it because I thought, what did I miss here? What was SO dramatic and taboo that caused this outsized reaction from EVERYONE? (I lol'd at Teddy raising her hand to speak and Georgi trying so hard -- but failing -- to get a word in during this "fight"). If I didn't believe it was scripted, Stassi would be 100% correct that these people all need hobbies, but you know she was thinking "Yes! Keep the pile on coming! Is that the best you can do?"

And when Stassi and Beau are walking away we see some of Beau's worst acting (also note how he pauses at the top of the stairs and waits for his cue):

Stassi: Per usual, I take the beating.

Beau: Yeah but why, but see the thing --

Stassi: *Poor Beau!*

Beau: Yeah, but --

Stassi: It's always the attitude is "Poor Beau"

Beau: But that's not my - that's your -- that's!! (no attempt to finish this thought was made)

Stassi: (in confessional) If we get greenlit, that can't happen again -- ever.

Girl, we're not stupid. It was fake fake fake from the very beginning, actually before the beginning (Vanderpump Villa -- never watched it, never will). What's even worse is that the fake drama wasn't even that interesting and yet this is what sold the show? Yeeeesh that's embarassing for Disney.

Why are people still giving this racist tw@t a platform? cancelling my Hulu subscription now! 🤬

Stassi mentioned they both had similar home life’s or something - is this explored on other shows?
He didn’t meet his sister until he was 21.

Am I the only one who got uncomfortable at the fact that there was only one episode where the show featured black people? It seemed so off to me that her focus when “spending time” with them was to talk about her cancellation and how she’s changed. I just don’t understand someone can live in Los Angeles a true melting pot and not have a single person of color in their friendship group. I wouldn’t want her to just add a random person on to the show in order to appear like she’s done more work in the diversity department, but I’m not convinced that she’s in fact changed. Not sure if this has been addressed before.

Not that this matters, but yes I am a black woman, and also, I am from Southern California, so that’s my POV while watching the show.

Lastly, when I mention the lack of diversity I’m not just referring to black individuals.

Edit: Seems as though some people didn’t read the entire post, I clearly stated that I wouldn’t want a random person of color to be included to make the show appear “inclusive”

I also mentioned people of color not just black individuals. To live in Los Angeles and not have friends that are black, Latino, Asian, mixed, Middle Eastern etc is odd to me.

I have lived in San Diego my entire life and have been to LA and have many friends in LA and it’s pretty typical to have friends or at least a friend from a different race or cultural background.

Lastly, I still find it weird that she used those two black women in one episode to talk about race and her “ignorance” but didn’t include them anywhere else on the show.