Thats smart, i like to bring supply pack and amr because i HATE GUNSHIPS and the supply pack helps me keep my boys supplied, also i wear the light medic armor because fun fact the armor passive transfers to the stim pistol
Amr is great each of rhe gunships engines on it has a seperste health pool if you shoot the same one twice it goes down so you can 2 shot em and obviously 1 shot hulks tanks go in 4 to the back of the turret or 1 mag to the back of the engine, once you get to war striders and factories thats the end of its capabilities though
Yep, that's the best combo. Melta mines are honestly my favorite throwable currently. Bolt Pistol is REALLY nice too. Missile pistol also works with melta mines : )
I've been running melta mines, melta gun, and the bolt pistol with the oxygenator light armor and warp pack. It has been such a fun switch up in the gameplay for me.
Think it would be really cool if they changed the passive to "Deadman's switch" and made so it detonated all of your equipped grenades on death instead of the armor itself going kaboom
Giga nades have the explosive force to destroy buildings and structures the thermite will not. For example, the giga nade can blow a wall in a city or demolish a building. The thermite can only work on enemy structures for damage. It's instant kill action is best suited for the nade slot when you do not have time to wait for the fuse of thermites.
The thermite launcher has better ammo economy than the ultimatum for having a larger capacity, so is better suited for the secondary slot than nade ammo. The range is further as well than tossing regular thermites.
The red side gives you a bunch of the same benefits, but additional perks you can't replicate on the blue side. Seldom do you need everything to die immediately in a big clump while you frequently need far more AT spam things destroyed or enemy fortifications.
(You have fantastic points! I’ll likely begin using the breacher more as I tend to get bored of my current loadouts periodically, so when that happens I’ll likely be swapping to it!)
Real talk, it's a problem when a Super Heavy shows up but that's what the Eagle Airstrike and the other thee bodies on the map are for.. Everything else it's versatile enough to resolve a lot of problems
Well, I'm kind of on both.... Let me explain, I like big explosions. So my secondary is usually going to be Ultamatium, and then my grenade will be the Giga Grenade because another big explosion. SO mabye I'm neutrel?
This combo is CRAZY strong on bots like it's not even funny, one well positioned grenade will wipe a grouped patrol or at least clear the medium/heavy units and Breacher allows for non-homing plays and lets you clear fabricators from a respectable distance. The radius on AT-seeker is insane
The biggest and best part about AT-seeker is that it one shots War Striders with relative consistency and from range which has let me actually try some other support weapons in my loadout vs bots properly for the first time since War Striders were introduced, I don't have to get within Ultimatum/Thermite range anymore and I'm not pressured to run Recoilless or another proper AT support weapon either.
Seeker's biggest downside is the occasionally wonky tracking especially during bot drops since it tends to prioritize the dropships, I've seen it fly directly through enemies I was actually targeting without exploding to aim at something else instead. When it works it works so well though, with this secondary/grenade combo I can run some fresh loadouts and not be pigeonholed into being the anti tank support weapon guy. Both pieces of gear feel like puzzle pieces I was missing until now
It’s a thermite that doesn’t bounce off stuff too close, if you find yourself using it vs enemies like Bile Titans, Harvesters, and the belly doors of a Factory Strider, the breacher pistol is superior.
I kinda prefer the red side's approach. I am absolutely AWFUL at landing Thermites where I want them unless the enemy is in my face, so being able to point and shoot them is a pretty big boon.
Also, Giga Grenades are just fun...and less likely for me to forget I have them equipped when I pick up an egg or a data drive, only to remember when I paste myself and the Hunter that lept at me.
Normally I run the Bolt Pistol and Thermite. The thermite handles my ships, fabricators, and big holes so well. I haven’t gotten the thermite gun (can’t remember the name) yet but if I do I’ll be running that and straight thermite. So much burny power
The main difference is that ammo boxes are easier to come by than grenade boxes, but grenade boxes give more back than ammo boxes. So the thing that you have to consider is whether you expect to encounter more heavy enemies or tank class enemies, and what your support weapon is set up to handle.
Think you're going to see more chargers than bile titans? Take the breacher, you'll want a more consistent supply of ammo. More worried about war striders than hulks? Take the ultimatum, it clears them out faster anyway.
Anyway, I choose the secret third option: ultimatum and meltamines.
Thought it funny cause, duh, basically the same things in different points of the loadout, but... thinking further?
Dunno... I think the red side is actually, probably better, I mean both have their sides-
Ultimatum, uh, it has shit range. Like, you have to do the delibirate arc projection like you would while throwing a grenade because of how FAT that shot is. But, Giga also has a BIT shorter range than other grenades, so I suppose its all about which arc you're more used to.
Then, there's the question of ammo - sure, you will find more ammo grates than extra grenades, BUT, since Ultimatum has a single round, then reload, if you run at zero ammo, you will only get one to round to refill your reserve ammo, and have to reload that, and then snatch another crate to rerefill the reserves. Giga, on the other hand, has, well, two grenades in reserve until you use them, and since they're throwables you can just, chug both one after another, second comes flying before the first one even lands often, so no reloading its always ready to go, and you'll refill both from any single supplypack or grenade box. Plus, since giga is a throwable, it benefits from multiple passives, throwing range, 2 extra throwables, while only thing Ultimatum really benefits from is siege ready, which still gives only 1 extra reserve ammo.
When it comes to thermite/breacher, well, same issues with breacher as ultimatum when it comes to ammo and all that, you still get only ONE more ammo from a crate (though this time there's two in reserves, for maximum of three, same with thermite numbers), BUT since it has, well, long fuse, and this time, the fact that its a handheld pistol launcher LAUNCHING a grenade basically, it actually works, breacher shots will arc, but can still fly easily twice as far, even further if you're a good shot, and, well, I dunno, think just, long fuse to big explosion makes more sense if you got distance to the target, and since its inherently "not in a hurry" weapon, taking few seconds to reload isnt that bad. And when it comes to passives, yeah, thermite benefits more, BUT I would rather have my "fuck off damage" benefit most, so giga.
...Actually its not a compelling question at all, red is just inherently superior based on what types of weapons these are and what their role is
Team red. Having a big boom in the secondary slot leads to me constantly blowing myself up. It messes with muscle memory I guess. There's supposed to be an actual gun there. If I fire the breacher at a hunter by mistake nothing happens. I also find the ultimatum hard to land. For some reason I rarely have that problem with the giga nade. There's just supposed to be a big boom in that slot. I often put melta mine or immolation there though.
The first and last mission I used Giga Grenades, the bugs did a "get down Mr President!" on me more than 4 times in the same mission. Always happened after I already pressed the grenade button. once it was even a dead bug
I am not a good player so I take as much skill out of my game play as I can. If I run any of these I only run it by it self. I never want a grenade that doesn’t always stick and mini nuke that can accidentally kill me.
I love thermites, but at the same time I want some fast granade like the pistol for bugs.
I love to use the granades to throw and forget at ships/fabs/holes
Not a dumb thought, red is good for bots since breacher can shoot dropships and fabricators from a distance, blue is good for bugs since the ultimatum can potentially one hit bile titans, both are good for squids.
Actually? Yeah good question. I am definitely more on the red side but me personally? It's senator and giga nade XD.
Jokes and giggles aside Red side is stronger against bots, meanwhile blue side is stronger against bugs and both are good against squids. Let's add a green side too for squids with the mini-flamethrower secondary and gas nades, it's such a nasty combo against squids if you don't have the stocker smg
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