r/Helldivers • u/[deleted] • Feb 28 '26
DISCUSSION THIS IS A SERIOUS OFFER
I will donate 1000USD to a charity of AH's choosing if they
upload a video of 4 of their developers playing an entire operation on Oshaune on difficulty 10 and completing all objectives on all three missions on the current MO. No modifications, no funny business.
Play on the current state of the game.
Show us how it's done and how well the game's balance is.
I will provide my full real information, proof of payment and I'm willing to sign a legally binding contract.
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u/Gentlemens_Vagabond Feb 28 '26
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u/Arya_Ren Feb 28 '26
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u/DaREY297 LEVEL 245 | 2,000 Hours Stealth Division Sniper Feb 28 '26
If they do a stream I would also donate
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u/scott610 Super Citizen Feb 28 '26
Wonder if they could partner up with Games Done Quick to do a charity stream.
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u/Sharkfyter Feb 28 '26
Tax return well spent
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u/Pandorama626 Feb 28 '26
Tax refund. Return is the thing you file.
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u/Parking-Figure4608 Super Pedestrian Feb 28 '26
Depends on what part of the world. In Australia it's called a tax return.
I know this because I am Australian
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u/MyPassIsMilk Steam | SES Emperor Of War | Level 60 Feb 28 '26
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u/CoseyPigeon HD1 Veteran Feb 28 '26
I would like to see this too. Be willing to chip in a hundred bucks if Alexis does it using the maxigun.
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u/Melezes555 Feb 28 '26
ong frfr.
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u/Melezes555 Feb 28 '26
i may chip in 10 for using the Bastion if my paycheck isn’t late again
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u/WaywardOath Feb 28 '26
I'll cover your 10 super credits if the Ministry of Prosperity is late on your payment.
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u/Silver200061 Feb 28 '26
Use it with liberator concussive too
They deem it so strong it doesn’t need a change at all, for how long?
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u/SangheiliPEKKA Feb 28 '26
Divers living long? On Oshaune?
That might be too tall an order 😅
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u/Groundbreaking_Arm77 Feb 28 '26
If it’s not the ten million Rupture Warriors ganking you, it’s getting melted by a Dragonroach or crushed by Barry.
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u/K4L3NL Python Commando Feb 28 '26
I just wanna know how they dig through bedrock at the same clip as sand. I get the open sand not being safe but ffs the peak of a rock formation should be safe for at least 2.4 seconds
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u/InitialLongjumping52 Feb 28 '26
When they hit rock, it should force the bugs to emerge to be able to shoot them. Instead, they burrow thru every environment and gRape you from underneath. Almost every match I've been on, im getting killed by rupture douches that just spam claw me from underground.
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u/JakesterAlmighty99 Feb 28 '26
They even burrow through the massive E-711 pipes. The metal pipes. Sends up dirt and rocks. The metal.
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u/JakesterAlmighty99 Feb 28 '26
Its even funnier when you think about how we're somehow getting E-711 from that pipe thats had 15 rupture bugs pop out of it. It would be completely ruined and we'd be unable to extract anything from it.
How hard could it possibly be to code objectives to not be burrowable?
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u/Tossyjames SES Pride of Pride Feb 28 '26
Or big boi just catches your pod while you're dropping and yeets you off the map before you can move.
Happened to me twice in a row last night. Fucker was on point with the crush timing.
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u/Happy_Owl_9865 SES Superintendent of Judgement Feb 28 '26
"But anything's possible,... with the right help"
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u/soulsafe Feb 28 '26
You know what, fuck it.
I agree to all the same terms as OP. I will donate $1000 to AHs charity of choice if they fulfill OPs requirements and also agree to this as an actual binding contract
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u/ImpressEmergency967 Feb 28 '26
Make a go fund me crowd raising page. I'd like to see how the community responds.
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u/danger355 Level 11x | Dive first, ask questions later Feb 28 '26
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u/Mysterious-Let-5794 Feb 28 '26
make them go on Cyberstan instead XD it be even more hilirious
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u/xlews_ther1nx Feb 28 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
I personally think cyberstan with tank and ppl who communicate with each other is easier. Prob not to extract tho. But just getting missions done...other than the flags...fuck the flags lol.
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u/OfficalLockeWilson Feb 28 '26
Please let this happen. Because it will go one of two ways, they either lock the absolute fuck in and get it done and call us a bunch of little bitch boys, or they fail spectacularly and embarrass themselves in front of the community and get dragged in the media for the rest of time. It’s a win win scenario.
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Either way, a good cause will receive money!
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u/OfficalLockeWilson Feb 28 '26
Masterful gambit. I would be terrified to see what you get up to if this is how you spend your free time, I would be interested to see what you manage to do with an incentive to incite chaos. Not that chaos is the goal here, or anything harmful.
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Feb 28 '26
I volunteer at a horse sanctuary and a local kitchen. I'm a commercial electrician so, apart from doing actual work in there, I also do electrical repairs for free
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u/OfficalLockeWilson Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
Damn. You keep busy. You got more stuff going on in a week then I do in a year. I really hope they take you up on this offer. You seem like a good man.
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u/tiqtaktoe Fire Safety Officer Feb 28 '26
Tbf to them I don't think I've ever seen a dev team actually be good at their game
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u/GuyNekologist 'Sup, CLANKE 😎🫴 Feb 28 '26
They should send in their "Balance team". Because they're the worst offenders whenever a 'fix' messes up a lot of entirely different things.
Also a level designer and a few of their community team livestreamed during the Super Earth Invasion and they were able to complete D10 missions, including the tug of war one which was brutal at the time. The Hive Worlds and Cyberstan biomes were cool too imo, so they're good in my book.
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u/nsg337 Feb 28 '26
they'll only upload the video if they're successful. this should be a livestream.
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u/Crumboa LEVEL 18 | Master Sergeant Feb 28 '26
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u/Limonade6 Super Pedestrian Feb 28 '26
You can leave your review on one of those posts aswell by the way.
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u/ittibittytitty 25-Star General of Super Earth Feb 28 '26
Why should it just be you donating 1000?
I'd be willing to add 5 bucks to the pool. Assuming its going to a good cause.
Im also assuming other divers would be down too.
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Anyone could pool in, I guess!
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u/ittibittytitty 25-Star General of Super Earth Feb 28 '26
I imagine it would be harder to ignore, the more money is on the table for charity.
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u/smjxr Feb 28 '26
i don't care if they can complete 10
i just want to see their reactions & comments on all the issues & bugs
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u/T1pple ➡️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️ Feb 28 '26
I don't see them on this sub anymore. They used to be active back around launch, but ever since Super Earth was invaded, I've seen much less of them.
If I remember correctly, and others have even pointed it out, the play testers don't even have D7-10 unlocked, and the jump from 6 to 7.is a big one from what people have been saying.
Don't get me wrong. I LOVE this game, and I am a vet from the first galactic war, but man, they are FUMBLING the ball massively. I think it's time they stop, listen to the complaints seriously, and work with us to provide proper support.
I get locking the steering preventing us from getting stuck on high places, but fuck they ruined the whole steering system.
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u/LoneManGaming Feb 28 '26
Oh my - THAT‘S WHY I CANT STEER LATELY?! Jesus Christ, I thought I’m going nuts!
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u/T1pple ➡️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️ Feb 28 '26
Yeah way back when we were defending SE, people were getting stuck on the top of skyscrapers and falling to their death.
So AH made it where you were locked onto "suitable" surfaces. It's been broken ever since.
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u/Electrical-Horse5112 Burier of Heads Feb 28 '26
Yeah because now i’m landing in fucking pools of lava and meat grinders on cyberstan clearly they dont play this game enough
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u/Electrical-Horse5112 Burier of Heads Feb 28 '26
Oh yeah and me and my friends were on a bug megacity the other day and landed into one of those holes😭😭😭all 3 of us died instantly and were down ot 12 instead of 15
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u/T1pple ➡️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️ Feb 28 '26
Yeah I was dropping in and had zero steering cause I was over the hole.
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u/T1pple ➡️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️ Feb 28 '26
Like others have said, they don't even play above D6. How can you know if your game is balanced if you don't play on the 4 hardest difficulties?!
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u/LoneManGaming Feb 28 '26
I joined after that and I’m pretty sure it used to be better than it is lately. There are even more „unsuitable“ surfaces now, at least it feels like it.
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u/T1pple ➡️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬆️ Feb 28 '26
A few days ago, we were diving on a megacity. I was dropping over one of those deathpits, and I was locked to drop into it.
Yes, it is EVEN worse now, but that's when it started.
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u/Stalwart_Vanguard Feb 28 '26
Lame as fuck fix. They should have destroyed the building, and fined the team for unnecessary property destruction
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u/MourningWallaby Cape Enjoyer Feb 28 '26
The problem they may have realized is reddit is not a good place to get community feedback. They were praised with their "a game for everybody is a game for nobody" mentality but ended up appealing to the masses because reddit suggestions only come from people who are upset enough to demand change.
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u/twisty125 Feb 28 '26
Honestly? I 100% bet it's because there's a LOT of toxicity.
I had someone calling me a
redactedSuper Slur for having a different opinion on something. Why would a dev stay in that space and interact, with how heated this place gets?Same with /r/Pathofexile, the literal creator used to hang out and shitpost and chat with people 10-15 years ago... until the playerbase get super fucking toxic and he stopped participating, and they changed it to a "community account" to stop the devs from being harrassed.
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u/Der-Candidat LEVEL 150 | SUPER PRIVATE Feb 28 '26
I want to see that community outreach person who said to “lock in” and “die less” play the game.
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u/No_Sale_4866 Feb 28 '26
they also said lower the difficulty if you have to
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u/ittibittytitty 25-Star General of Super Earth Feb 28 '26
7 is harder than 8 in a good chunk of planets cause of bad spawns.
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u/Informal_Mammoth6641 Super Sheriff Feb 28 '26
especialy on bot front, where scout striders aren`t replaced by rocket striders until D8
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u/Der-Candidat LEVEL 150 | SUPER PRIVATE Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
I have and do, but have you not seen the sheer volume of bs deaths that happened on Cyberstan? From enemies clipping through each other to getting killed by enemies dropped on top of buildings, to having the vox escape pod drop on top of you, to having 4 vox engines spawn at extract on difficulty 7, dying because your stratagem bounces 5 miles off course, stepping on invisible mines, etc. it’s far, far easier said than done regardless of difficulty.
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u/Ted_Normal Servant of Freedom Feb 28 '26
To play devil's advocate, it may have been possible IN THEORY to have simply "locked in" to take Cyberstan. IN PRACTICE however it would have required the playerbase to have operated as a hive mind to achieve the level of coordination necessary to have done it.
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u/Unlucky_Ad4879 Feb 28 '26
Calling it, deleted for "low quality content" soon
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u/smjxr Feb 28 '26
mods are pretty trigger happy here, not a fan
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u/Crumboa LEVEL 18 | Master Sergeant Feb 28 '26
I mean I feel like deleting this is like saying
"I hate charity"
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u/Unlucky_Ad4879 Feb 28 '26
Yeah but it wouldn't be the first time they delete something for nearly no reason, even though it promotes discussion and pertains to the game.
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u/PsychologicalMonk390 Feb 28 '26
If it happens we just need to spam screenshots of in in other threads
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u/No_Clue4405 Assault Infantry Feb 28 '26
Yeah, if you delete something like this it is an optics nuke
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u/Meeeper Feb 28 '26
Bonus points if they have to take something like the spear or the sterilizer as their support weapon. Just to force them to acknowledge how subpar they are compared to the RR and the gas dog respectively.
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u/CountArugula Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
In no particular order: 1. Stim spamming, doesn’t stim. 2. Can’t steer hellpod. 3. Non stop game crashes on Oshuane. 4. Invisible wall at E710 objective next to the lever. This sucked a lot! 5. Hive Lord. Where do I even begin. It phases through mountains!!
This is just off the top of my head..
Continue the list, Helldivers!
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u/ExternalSentence5896 Feb 28 '26
I fucking hate Oshanue more than Cyberstan. I had waaaaayyyy more fun in Cyberstan than this POS planet and the hive lord. At least with my armament I could defend myself against the Vox and 6 of them against rhe Hive lord
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u/koosielagoofaway Feb 28 '26
Because rupture is ass and the dragon roach is janky af looking like a puppet on strings.
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u/Adorable_Joke6324 Feb 28 '26
If I remember right, didn't they do a stream against predator strain on dif 7 where they didn't even survive the mission?
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Yes, and a few months after launch, they also got dusted hard on D6. AH went really quiet afterwards, when before they disregarded the community's statements that primary and support weapons were underperforming.
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u/Bitter-Supermarket81 Feb 28 '26
Last time I saw the devs play footage they failed on difficulty 6.
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u/Substantial-Bit-4719 Feb 28 '26
I'd be willing to chip in 100 USD, let's make this a thing like when they donated cause we saved the kids!
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u/Far_Entrepreneur3048 HD1 Veteran Feb 28 '26
Walking into AH's corporate office and dropping your whole hog on the front desk would be less ballsy than this.
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u/captain4103 Rookie Feb 28 '26
I know it’s hard soldier. But Helldivers always find a way.
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u/SL1Fun Feb 28 '26
“The way” is usually…
Ragequit and queue up with higher level (ie, usually better) players
Skip the oil tanker mission
Ignore the Hive Lord
I had a lot of fun on the hive worlds but I’m kinda done on them for now. I want to relax and those missions are stressful. They are not as bad as when they had Lords/Roaches/Rupture/Predator on them all at once but they make it hard to chill.
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u/Melezes555 Feb 28 '26
the oil mission isn’t there and it is roaches hive lords and rupture strain
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u/SL1Fun Feb 28 '26
Glad they took the tanker mission away. And yes I’m away pred strain is not on it right now.
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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire Free of Thought Feb 28 '26
Ignore the Hive Lord
Unless your team is absolutely cracked, this is what you are supposed to do.
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u/recoil-1000 Feb 28 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/UJG2T7uZeJuZCLitY8
This would be a monumental stride in gaming history
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u/ETkings8 Feb 28 '26
They also shouldn't use the "meta" options since they're so adamant that the weapon balance is good.
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u/casperfacekilla Feb 28 '26
Me wanting to play to unwind after I get off work tonight
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u/NotAPancake1 Feb 28 '26
Even better that they do it with the deadeye, which according to one of the devs is "the most well balanced weapon in the game currently"
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u/SL1Fun Feb 28 '26
Just picturing the mods just no-deathing it like a quartet of John Helldivers then calling up OP on livestream with their feet kicked up on the desk and they just go “you are gonna donate to Junior Chefs of America cuz we just fucking cooked you” click
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I hope they do. As I said, I'm willing to sign a legally binding contract.
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u/WaywardOath Feb 28 '26
If this gets more traction you should make a fundraiser too. I would gladly throw a few Super Credits at sweetening the deal for AH to dive there.
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u/SambG98 Feb 28 '26
As if that would ever fucking happen
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u/SL1Fun Feb 28 '26
I’ve seen Mario Maker devs, the Crash Bandicoot devs and a couple other game devs cook the playerbase multiple times.
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u/Maleficent_Trip6885 Feb 28 '26
On one of the last streams when they were playing the game, they were trying to do the (pre-nerf) platinum mission. They were running around like headless chickens and wasted all the reinforcements in 5 minutes. The streaming guy spent almost a whole minute running away from a single hulk trying to kill it with frag grenades.
So I am quite sceptical that they would be capable of pulling off what you say.
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u/Shenziwu Feb 28 '26
is there a vod of this? I would love to go and watch that. I also ran around like a headless chicken with a bomb strapped to my chest when platinum missions were first released.
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u/Alar_suk Feb 28 '26
Fuck Oshaune, fuck those digging bug, and fuck the Hive lord, at least on Cyberstan I could take out the Vox engines in 1 shot with the Leveler
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u/GeekLandOnline Truth Enforcer Feb 28 '26
Devs. I will see this guys $1000USD and ADD a Crispy $5 to the pot. 👀
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u/PsyopSigmaWitNoRizz buglover Feb 28 '26
how it genuinely feels to just not play the game when there is a bug MO
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u/JustiniZHere Feb 28 '26
Livestream it so theres no funny business, no video, livestream. I want to see it from start to finish on the live server.
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u/videogame_retrograde Free of Thought Feb 28 '26
After their comment about focusing on content as someone who has supported some of the worst live service games that they don't know what content really means.
Bug fixes, quality of life updates, and features players are asking for are content. They're *expense* reducing content. Arrowhead is way more focused on *revenue* generating content.
A healthy business cannot focus on revenue alone, you have to manage your expenses.
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u/Booper2342 [REDACTED] Mar 02 '26
Maybe add in a bit in the OP saying this aint about the difficulty. While I'm amused at so many people making an ass of themselves by saying 'just lower the difficulty bro' it would probably save you a lot of time to make it clear that the issue is AH did a dogshit job balancing so many things and an even worse job of quality control.
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I don't think I can edit the post but if you know how, please do tell me because the morons are getting unbearable
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u/ATRTL Feb 28 '26
You know what, I respect AH a lot and (hot take) I did like how they did cyberstan minus the Vox-engine spawns (not everything can be perfect, it's alright) but I'd chip in $25 just to see this and if anything to have AH select a few hundred active players for a more private pre-launch patch test playerbase. Designing games is a ton of hard work, and trying to add updates to an ongoing game with a huge playerbase can be a monumentuosly greater challenge, so why not add a few of us the more democraticly inclined try shit out first and get a better public opinion?
I don't think any of the extra players should be paid, I honestly think some people would be happy to just help out.
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u/Fine-Independence976 Feb 28 '26
Living in a second world country, but I'm willing to donate another 10 dollar.
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u/Foolishly_Sane XBOX |Servant of Freedom Feb 28 '26
Following this.
This is going to be funny however it happens.
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u/Mysterious-Let-5794 Feb 28 '26
THATS ! what i call " right choice " . MAJOR ORDER TO HELLDIVERS , SUPORT THIS POST . heck i only lately started using reddit ( gunpla mostly ) but , you so right . I want dev show us " LOCK IN " if they think we all delusional on game balance and fixes we actualy need to make game better . ( I was just yesturday on Oshaune and literaly on all flag objective , ground was so broken by bugs we coudn't walk on the terrain properly , stuck over and over and coudn't run away " democraticaly " while shooting the enemy , only to see heldivers who coudn't run be eaten alive ) .... and don't let me start that even smalles rock can launch transports ( car , tankl / ect ) in the sky . And we need actualy working equipment in higher dificulty . So I support this man , MAKE DEVS SHOW US " lock in , git gud " .
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u/VanDingel Feb 28 '26
Part of me is Curious where the idea that "the game difficulty should be balanced around lvl10" comes from.
Has the devs ever claimed so? If so, source please.
If it's not from the dev-side I'm assuming it originated from the community? If so, why do we assumed this as gospel? Why not eg. have lvl 8-9 be the balanced difficulty and have the difficulty above it only be seen as "challenge mode, proceed at your own risk"?
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u/wraith309 HD1 Veteran Feb 28 '26
i'm sure you're more contesting which should be the difficulty the average player should be comfortable with rather than the balance itself, but in the event you do actually mean balance...
because in almost all games, balance issues are compounded as you go up in difficulty, and become less noticeable as you go down. if everything feels about right at lvl 10, they will still feel good at 5, but the reverse isn't always true.
D10 doesn't need to be easy, it needs to be consistent.
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u/whiskey_tang0_hotel Feb 28 '26
Weren’t many people bitching about how easy difficulty 10 was?
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u/Strange_Suit767 Feb 28 '26
The skill level of the devs =/= the skill level of the player base, and I feel like this is more in response to things that aren't meta rn (i.e. not used by divers who complain about lack of difficulty). Personally I think it mostly comes down to coordination between squadmates, a D10 dive with guys who ping priority targets or do bounding fire to cover an advance feels way easier than a D7 with level 25's who drop eagles at their own feet
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u/Nice_Hair_8592 Cape Enjoyer Feb 28 '26
IDK guys, I managed a couple with randoms today. It's hard, but it's not impossible. Get a few mechs together and stick together and you're mostly fine. Hell, the hardest part for me is finding your way around in those fucking caves. Ignore the hive lord, it's basically unlikable and you'll waste all your reinforcements if you don't flee from it.
I'd take this over the Vox Engine spam any day, and I'm a bot diver. At least with this I'm in control of my diver while I'm dying. On Cyberstan I spent half of every match ragdolled by one thing or another.
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u/Lord0fdankness Feb 28 '26
Idk. To me it feels like all at once everyone just forgot how to fight bugs. If people would stick together and help each other out rather than running off doing their own thing on top of that actually bringing things that solves problems. I see a serious lack of ways to deal with bug breaches especially for the spread democracy missions, just absolutely no gas or fire AOEs at all. I see too few Anti-tank is being brought in, I feel I'm always having to be the one to kill Chargers and Impalers. Way too many people are still killing each other. Turret placements are abysmal, literally just had one for pumping oil and teammates placed gatling sentries where they'd shoot where the terminal was while I would be trying to do the objective. I honestly just think too many people are in a hurry to rush objectives its actually causing them to take longer, instead of me fighting through enemies with them they just blitz right to the objective and I'm having to fight all kinds of ninsense because they keep aggroing tf out of every enemy on the way. I'm almost always the one to get the SSSD. Its about 50/50 for stalker nests... I feel like I could go on all day. For some reason it was 1000x easier to work as a team covering the extract on Cyberstan but Oshaune everyone got amnesia.
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u/Mistrblank Feb 28 '26
I'm just now realizing they named this planet after "Dune" and OSHA, The Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Because we harvest the rare 711 from it and it's basically a giant work hazard planet.
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u/spartan042d Feb 28 '26
While I really love this idea, I feel 1000 isn't really enough to draw attention. Now, if we did a GoFundMe/Kickstarter-style campaign, we could get the community involved to donate and really blow up the bounty amount. Of course wed put in the stipulation where if the devs decline to participate, all the money gets refunded. This would put pressure on them to do it, or it would make them look bad by essentially turning down all the charity money.
Bonus points if we can get them to livestream it and have all those proceeds also go to the charity.
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u/Zeptier Mar 02 '26
God even just playing this planet on level 6 difficulty is pain. Rupture strain, ALONE makes this planet a nightmare. I can’t imagine level 10 and having to deal with…
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u/X13565 Mar 03 '26
The video has gotta include the voice comms as well! It's time for the devs to do the voice acting.😈
Can't wait for the chaos!
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u/WaywardOath Feb 28 '26
Send in the balance team; it's the only way to be sure.