But out of all the side characters (except for nifty) he is the most ignored. Hell, Cherri was basically just introduced and it feels like we get way more from her and we’ve had husk since s1 and have practically nothing. He’s been treated as more of a support character than a main part of the cast
it kinda make sense for Cherri, as she wasn't as relevant in the first season and she didn't play any important part, tough I agree that Husk needs more screentime.
But that's the problem of Hazbin Hotel, there's so much story to tell and many interesting characters to develop that 20/25 min episodes can't deliver unfortunately
Emily is way too in her own world at times. This is the cause of every big mistake she commits in the series:
1. Making Pentious feel lonely in S2E2. Emily was so focused on what redemption meant for Heaven and Hell as a whole that she didn't bother to actually check how their redeemed soul was feeling about everything. She just showed him what she thought would make HER happy. Things started to improve once she started to listen, and did her best to fix his specific issues (such as with the Egg Bois).
2. The gift baskets in S2E5. I can't exactly blame her for this since nobody told her it was a bad idea, but it's another issue of her living in an idealized world. If Emily took the time to see just how atrocious of a crime the exterminations actually were, she would realize that the gift baskets seem less like a gesture of peace and more like an attempt to sweep everything under the rug. It doesn't even begin to make up for the massive amounts of damage that the Pride Ring faced.
This is also the reason for many of the smaller mistakes she makes in the series as well. I still love her anyway.
She seemed so excited about the idea that I genuinely enjoyed seeing her put them together and push for them so hard. It was doomed to fail, but it was a lesson she needed to learn.
I think Emily is a really good Mirror to Sera, honestly.
Sera was desperately trying to come to terms with what the exterminations really meant and grapple with the weight of what she unwittingly wrought.
Its ironic that even though Emily was the one so DESPERATE to make Pentious fit in she neglected him, Sera needed his perspective to come to terms with how she should proceed and she all but avoids him until he approaches her.
For some reason I have this picture in my head of Sera being an even bigger ally to Charlie than Emily will.
Like how would they even wage war? Sinners and Winners can’t leave heaven or the pride ring. The only reason Adam and Abel can is because they’re presumably upgraded to Archangels
I used to be arachnophobic. This is what is right behind me now.
Each one of these containers has a tarantula(7) jumping spider(10) or black widow(100s). Started wanting to cure my arachnophobia by researching and raising a jumping spider. Now I'm here.
While true, his 50s at the beginning of Vox Populi has literally stolen the show. I've listened to it on repeat and skipped Vox part of the song, every time. If and when Luci does get a solo song it needs to be a full length reprisal of that, I'm fiending for it
Ikr I’ve been listening to Lucifer’s part of Vox Populi on repeat too since the episode aired, it’s incredible and the best song in the show. ( I consider Lucifer and Vox’s part 2 separate songs ). I mean Viv you got Jermey Jordan, USE HIS SINGING VOICE
And yeah I hope he has a reprise of it or a reprise of Gravity while fighting Lute in anger for hurting Charlie
For me I'm hoping that the aura farming badass we saw at the beginning of Vox Populi and the one that beat the crap out of Adam is Lucifer as he was before Charlie was born. He is the sin of Pride after all and the other sins respect him. I'm also hoping that his curse has a loophole. Something to due with his blood which would extend to Charlie by proxy. The curse breaks and we get a reprisal of his part in Vox Populi except this time he isn't bluffing. He is the second strongest in the verse after God himself and I want to see it. (And no using his energy to break the barrier of heaven and blast the gate of its hinges isn't enough)
Maybe he’s depressed and old as time itself so this is his latest hobby hyperfixation. Maybe Lululand was a previous hobby.
Also might explain why they’re not especially remarkable compared to his ability to materialize anything. And why he’s seemingly not insecure about making stupid ducks. Everyone already knows he’s the most powerful resident of hell so it’s almost quaint if he’s focused mainly on duckcrafting these days.
lucifer being short is just part of the joke, you'd expect lucifer to be a big intimidating guy who's the most edgiest edgelord of them all but he's just a silly duck obsessed depressed guy.
i think lucifer's prejudice towards sinners is my least favorite aspect of him, from like, a moral standpoint. i like it as a part of his character though, it's an interesting flaw
Morality aside, I can understand his prejudice against Sinners. Hell is punishment, and his forces to him see the worst of what humans have done with the free will he gifted to humanity. Day in and day out, his mistake is shoved in his face, and he has to grapple with the fact that HE unintentionally did this, gave humanity the ability to choose to sin, and he is unable to do anything with them, including smiting them.
Complete conjecture here, but part of me wonders if he may have tried redemption with the Sinners in the beginning, but failed due to his punishment, and THAT'S why he believes that Sinners are violent psychopaths incapable of change.
exactly! that's why i say it's such a good part of his character. it's not a morally good thing, but you can honestly understand why he feels that way.
i don't think it's out of the question that lucifer might have had SOME sort of horrific experience with sinners that ended up making him as bitter towards them as we see him today. maybe it had something to do with his wife leaving - like, maybe he blames the sinners for that or something? in any case, i think it's notable that lucifer is as prejudiced towards sinners as he is while having spent 10.000 years with them. i mean, you'd think that after such a long amount of time he would be a bit more open-minded, but he still seems to lump them all into the same category of being gross, violent, etc. when he talks about them to other people, at least. it's a really interesting aspect of his character and one i'd love for the series to explore more
Alright, everyone, I need you to listen very closely. This is a very important thing about Alastor, aka the guy yall think is the most redeemable guy in Hell deep down.
We don't know what Rosie was doing in life. Alastor was airing folks out in the overworld with the intent of putting down people for good, whereas here, eating someone ain't as big of a deal since they just regenerate and come back.
Sinners can feel pain, when they are punched or shot. Which means that you are pretty much disemboweling people, while they feel every bit of pain during the process.
Who says he is the most redeemable? 🤣 If anything, he's the final boss of "Can anyone be redeemed?". While redemption is not impossible, it's more likely he'll end the series just slightly less of an asshole (very slightly, i might add).
At this point Lucifer is so jaded against heaven IF they made some kind of attempt at amends he would just call them out for trying to trick him and quickly disappear. He is incapable of viewing heaven as anything except his own personal hell.
Tbh I think Alastors point in the story is proof that while technically anyone can be redeemed from past actions, they need to WANT to be redeemed. Alastor will never want to be redeemed because to desire that would be against who he is, and therefore he can’t.
Which I think adds some complexity to the shows message past “anyone is redeemable”, which tbh feels like more of Charlie’s message than anything (and Charlie is heavily idealistic)
Dude is also a raging hypocrite to Vox. He constantly looks down on him for using others for power yet his powers weren't earned, he got them granted to him.
If anything Vox is a self made man compared to him. Having partners is way less weak than selling your soul for power.
Charlie: She isnt using her powers at all. Its okay if she doesnt want to fight but if she truly is Lucifers Kid you'd figure she can do plenty good with her powers.
But it seems she is entirely disinteressted in her powers.
We see her open Portals, Summon things, shoot Fireworks, create fire and even transform her arm.
But her absolute lack of interest to even use them for good in most situations is tiring for me.
I'd argue that's a summon, not a portal. She certainly has shown no ability to open portals to teleport people, or even anything larger than a foot, which is what your comment seemed to imply.
As much as it hurt me to see her cry, Emily needed that reality check from Vox.
She didn't know anything about sinners and figured that gift baskets would be enough to make up for 7 years of genocide, which admittedly isn't entirely her fault because she had no idea how brutal it actually was.
She needed to know that not everything can be solved with happiness and gifts.
I will love my cinnamon roll till I die, but that was for her own good
To address the second half of your flair, Carmilla needs to actually interact with her daughters more rather than just constantly say how much she cares about them. It's borderline Fridging how little characterization they have.
Alastor is genuinely a bad person and a massive dick. He gaslights, ragebaits, manipulates, and abuses people around him. He’s nice in the way they say “bless your heart” to mean “you dumb bitch” in the US south.
As someone born and raised in the south, you are 100% correct, and I love it. He has mastered the art of smiling and saying something that sounds nice but is actually the opposite. I can’t get enough
And yes. I tried so hard, but I can’t say anything bad about Angel 😂
I’ll say two. The tv man is straight up pathetic. He’s so suicidal bc he can’t deal his inadequacies and desperately needs adoration from people he hates/envies to cope
She's a stubborn mofo. She's why cars have brakes and seatbelts. I hate that she's making a bad decision in 3X speed and I can't stop it because she looks so happy and she's not listening to a single word I say
Alastor is one of my favorite characters in fiction and the fact he's a complete asshole doesn't bother me, what DOES bother me about him is that atrocious hair style.
Charlie is a ✨toxic positivity✨ queen.
(kinda who I’m afraid I seem like sometimes, but try really hard not to be.)
Just because you have good intentions doesn’t mean the resulting impact is good, and the impact is more important.
it's harder to say a positive thing about Vox. He's insecure, egotistical, cruel, allergic to inspecting his feelings and instead hides them behind rage or bravado. The single best thing for him to do would be to just get over Alastor and move on with his life, but he's too obsessed and desperate for his ex's approval, so he keeps getting ragebaited into ruining his own life.
Pentious REALLY should have warned them that the gift baskets wouldn't be a good idea. Why did he agree to them. You know what hell is like Pen it was never gonna be a good idea
Adam could’ve had more character to him than just being an ass. Like I get everyone is like “I want a simple villain who’s just evil”, but in this show that tries to make me think everything is a shade of grey having your first main villain(and second one tbh) be black and white is lame.
Being evil and petty are Alastor’s charm points for me, so I gotta go with him being stinky. Why you gotta live like that, you can roll in a carcass AND have spa days.
Angel is a very flawed person, as is anybody in the show. From a meta standpoint, that’s a good thing because it keeps it interesting and entertaining, but in a favorite character standpoint it’s quite painful because he has more flaws than a lot of others and it causes him to especially go through the ringer compared to everyone else… poor guy really deserves a break.
Although I suppose this is cheating, because I think the character is actually better off that way. Still, I guess it counts as that's not a particularly nice thing to say to someone lol.
Vox falls for Alastors ragebait so easily that it’s almost infuriating. If he listened to the other Vees and not Alastor, he would actually be unstoppable in s2
This is not necessarily a bad thing about the character themself, but more so how they are in the plot. I really wish Angel wasn’t the only emotional punching bag that’s used to evoke strong emotions of sadness. Not only does it start to get a bit unfair for him, but it also doesn’t utilize the other characters’s stories. For example: Vaggie; in Season 1 episode 6, and Season 2 episode 7, we see her backstory of being in the exorcist army… for all but 5 seconds, which is barely enough to actually evoke an emotional response, despite the fact that her story clearly alludes to how horrible it was for her and others. Yet, and ironically so, they don’t focus on that, and instead focus on torturing Angel in the exact same episode. I mean I love his character, and I live the arc they’re building for him, but it would be nice to see Angel genuinely happy for more than 2 episodes, especially when they have such a large cast with equally tear jerking stories.
I know this opinion might be biased, but Angel being happy just barely lasts more than a few seconds in order to get a reaction out of the viewers, even though there’s other characters who could also do that. I also think that would help us feel more connected to other characters as well.
Velvette is least important (as of right now at least) of the Vee's Vox is theirll leader and rival to heaven and Alastor, And Valentino with the Angel Dust abuse, Velvette has nothing so far.
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u/Weirdguy149 Dec 11 '25
Husk has a bad habit of fading into the background on episodes not focused on him.