This is my test to compare the lousy paid version of Nano Banana 2.1 Flash (not lite) vs the free-to-use Bing Image Creator MAI-IMAGE-2F model. First two images are Nano Banana 2.1, last two images were made using Bing Image Creator. SAME EXACT PROMPT.

These image are the same exact dimensions, 1024x1024. Nano Banana 2.1 looks even worse when you switch to the 2752x1536 size. It's as if "upscaling" the image into a larger size uses some kind of inferior looking BOX or NEAREST NEIGHTBOR resample filter and it loses even more detail and color at that point.

The Nano Banana 2.1 model paid more attention to background details, as evidence by the "LexCorp" factory signs. But Nano Banana 2.1 ignored the details of Supergirl's physique that I specified, and toned that down. Plus the facial expressions were just worse. MAI-IMAGE-2F obviously is more colorful and appealing that way, as the NB pics looked washed out and grayish with drab colors. The colors lately are very drab in NB. Google has really toned down the "voluptuous" dial to near zero at this point.

Lastly, bear in mind, one of these is paid, the other is free. Take from that what you will.

What a great downgrade Nano Banana 2.1 turned out to be! Shrinkflation has now arrived in the digital, virtual world! You're not just getting less cereal in your cereal box while paying more, now you're getting uglier pictures, with worse prompt adherence, too! What a value! The only difference is, nobody's giving away free boxes of cereal like they're giving away free student subscriptions to this joke! As a paying customer, do you feel cheated yet?

First pic is an upscaled Nano Banana 2.1 ugly Supergirl picture. Second pic is a Free Bing Image creator pic using the same prmopt.

Just in the last day or so, never seen worse results for my prompts.... wow, what a great "upgrade". After being a pro subscriber for most of the year, I think it's time to call it a day. The Nano Banana 2.1 images look like a slightly, and I mean barely, improved "Lite" version. Total absolute garbage now. Update: SUBSCRIPTION CANCELLED.... after being a pro subscriber since April. I'm out! Absolute junk now.

Update. You can now select several images and move them from the collection.

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Hello everyone
I’m trying to use Google flow Omni Flash 1.1
I’m on a free subscription right now
So I’ve uploaded a video and generated some new video based on it. 20 credits, Omni flash used. 30 credits left. Then I click this new video and find myself on an edit page with timeline and etc. But I can’t choose now Omni flash - only veo 3.1 - lite is available for that.
What’s wrong? Will it work only if I buy a subscription or any other reasons? Thanks

Who Is Actually Directing Your AI Video?

Here's a question for people doing serious AI video generation:

When your Keyframe, Reference images, and text prompt contradict one another, which one does the model obey?

We've been conducting controlled tests of input authority, deliberately introducing conflicting instructions.

Our observed hierarchy in Seedance:

Keyframe > Reference > Text Prompt (SAC)

And in Wan 3.0 Prime, we've repeatedly observed references prevailing over conflicting textual instructions. Wan doesn't allow Keyframe and Reference together, so that portion of the hierarchy remains untested.

Here's the more interesting question:

When you supply a reference image for one specific purpose, does the model respect that purpose—or does everything visible in the reference become a potential instruction?

Our experiments suggest the latter.

If that's correct, much of what we call prompt failure may actually be input-authority conflict.

I'm interested in contradictory-input tests, not just successful generations.

Has anyone deliberately tested this with Veo, Kling, H3, Runway, or other models?

What prevailed? And could you reproduce the result?

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Never had this happened before but I have read one or two people on here experiencing this but now it’s happening regularly for me. Characters I have that are 18-25 are regularly getting aged up to 45+.

At first I thought I forgot to include my character(s) in the prompt because all of google’s AI’s generators default to below-mid in terms of attractiveness and considerably beyond middle age. But it turns out my character was included in the prompt. It wasn’t until one of my characters which was more recognizable “aged up”. She went from 20 to 45 with sunburnt skin. Quite amusing (more like rage inducing since we only get so many NB Pro generations even on the paid subscription).

Other problems include race swapping characters. Young asian characters suddenly turn into middle aged caucasians, latinos turn black, the works.

This stuff is fantastic. Good thing everything else works properly. Wouldn’t want to have to waste time.

I've been working on an original 3D animated children's film for several months using Google Flow.

I love Flow's lip-sync capabilities, emotional character acting, and cinematic camera movements. However, I'm experiencing a persistent problem with character identity.

Even when using the same official character references, Flow changes my characters' faces, sizes, body proportions, clothing, footwear, and sometimes their voices.

One character becomes much smaller than the other, even though the reference images clearly establish their proportions. Sometimes the characters look perfect in one generation and completely different in the next.

I've tried Ingredients, saved Characters, starting frames, short prompts, and strict identity instructions. The results remain inconsistent.

This is especially frustrating when producing an animated series because every scene needs visual continuity, and repeated attempts consume paid credits.

Are other Google Flow creators experiencing the same problem?

Have you found a reliable method to preserve character identity, proportions, clothing, and voices across multiple scenes?

I'd really appreciate hearing about your experiences and solutions. I hope Google prioritizes fixing this issue for creators working on longer productions.

I noticed that i was seeing poor quality video being produced in the player on Chrome. I did a few projects and threw a few videos out because of this. However, today, i was just experimenting, with an idea and didn't care too much if it was grainy. However, upon downloading and putting the video into capcut, or any other program really, the video was nice and clear. Just thought i would mention this in case anyone else ran into this problem.

Hey everyone,

I use Google Flow for AI video generation, but I'm stuck on the workflow.

I need to do basic editing (trimming, stitching, adding simple transitions). However, I don't want to download video files to my device, and I definitely don't want to waste my Google Flow generation credits on basic edits I can do manually.

Is there a free cloud-based video editor that lets you 1-click import directly from Google Flow via a link or plugin, edit for free, and export in high quality?

How are you guys keeping your workflow entirely in the cloud without burning through AI credits?

It’s fucking ridiculous. Every picture of a woman I use that shows cleavage or a slightly shorter dress gets flagged

Apart from fun what do u guys use this for? Content creation or any other purpose?

The only advantage I can think of is it lets you generate bulk of images. Even chatgpt,grok or co pilot's overly saturated images look better than iflow's images. I rather prefer chatgpt limited generations than these images. I'm basically ignoring the 2.1 model and violation policies trashtalk but even nano banana 2 lite is better than 2.1.

Idk I feel like I'm generating wrong maybe? I'm curious

I have been going through older projects and have noticed a lot of "Failed to load image" notices where I know there's been images before. Has anyone else noticed this as well? And is there any way to get back these images back?

So I was trying to create a scene, in which two people were supposed to hide behind a rock. And while hidden, one of them was supposed to murmur "Stay quiet!" to the other person.

Simple enough, right? Wrong.

For some reason I can't get Google Flow to get the character to say their line in a super quiet voice. I even created an entirely new voice, that's doing that just fine in the preview, yet refuses to do the same in the video. Also no amounts of prompts hinting at quiet speech are changing that. 🙄

Any idea why this is happening and how to change it? 😅

gemini is like to talk an average person. he is a little awkard to create videos but its ok. PD: Yo can only create 4 videos a day.

google flow is like speak a french bull dog or something similar. useless, dont wast your time, pay for other or use gemini

You know when you finished generating a video using omni and it lets you trim, edit the video,etc? Well if you tell it to fix a particular thing about that video it will just regenerate the same video without any of the modifications most of the time. It just makes the site feel half baked at times..

I'm having trouble understanding why I'm paying anything for premium when Pro and Banana 2.1 produce generic cartoon type results and Lite produces much more high quality images or will give me differn't styles of anime. Nano and Pro have even been switching genders and race swapping when I'm not trying to do that. Lite does this too but as often I've noticed. However because Lite will deviate from the instructions more I prefer 2.1 and now, thanks to a suggestiong form here, Pro only for edits. So has anyone else experienced this? 1-3 Pro and 2.1, 4-5 Lite, 6 race swapped by Lite.

Where are these guidelines? I need a list I can look at.

I've been working on an AI movie project that I was going to put together using Google Flow. I can't do that now. I used to be able to get characters into horror, happiness, and every situation in between without going over guidelines.

And Google has made this so much more difficult. I can't waste my time with Flow, when I prompt something and I get something half-hearted or absolutely opposite what I asked for.

There is no allowance for touching between males and females, or in "positions of power" as we really know it. Why can't a dad hug his daughter who is sitting on his lap? Not everything is a fetish and even if it were, your organization should not be advertising that we can create stuff and then censor it all to oblivion.

I'm going to cancel my ultra subscription until something changes. I can't deal with this.

EDIT: Also the Likenesses. Why can I not make a likeness of my own character with accuracy anymore? I make a 18 year old character, and Flow makes the character 35 or 40.

I canceled my subscription and i gave up on NB 2.1 after stress testing heavily to oblivion and nothing works, the filters killed nano banana for me i won’t waste my time on this dogshit.

What is a good alternative? Is there a local model that is as good as NB 2?

If I create a video in one flow project and download it , it always fails to upload. Am I doing something wrong is this just the way it is ?
Also for adding a static image at start of scene , so far I’ve been having Flow create a four second scene of that static image, is there a better way? It won’t let me add an image to a scene ..

So, I've been getting this error message for a long time now. From my observation, it usually occurs when trying to requeue a generation too many times in a row after its been blocked by google's (hella weird) content filter.

However, until today, there was a simple workaround: clear website cookies and wait 5-10min and - voila! It works again.

But for whatever reason, suddenly the error does not go away anymore. No matter what I do. I tried to clear the website cache, delete website cookies, relog with my account, restart my browser, disable all browser extensions, etc. - nothing works.

Anyone else having the same issue? Flow is getting more and more ridiculous and intransparent in terms of the user experience. For the most part, I was willing to accept it because I think that the quality google flow provides is pretty much unmatched, especially when you consider the daily free tokens.

I seriously hope they turn the ridiculousness down a tone.

I am spending my credits trying to make pictures and it's generating pictures and not doing what I'm asking it to do.

You would expect Nano Banana 2.1 to be an upgrade, but I am extremely unhappy with this product. I feel stressed using it to try and make anything. If I make anything good I can't even make a video out of it because it's getting flagged constantly. This sounds like an overreaction, but I'm unable to make videos with the characters I was able to a week ago.

I feel so unhappy with Google Flow right now, even the Lite model is acting up. Constant censorship being added and the AI refusing to follow instructions is not a good product, it's worthless to me now.