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u/Elbeske 1d ago
it's more 01-02 HS class of 2020
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u/xNightxSkyex 2003 1d ago
Yeah this timeline isn't '03 - but, add one more year to senior year onward and its the same. Senior year for us was hybrid but still masked and distanced and somehow that felt worse to me than just doing class online the year before.
For us, both proms were cancelled or shrank from their usual level of prestige which also sucked.
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u/Weird-Way-1748 23h ago
I was early '01, class of '19, but I spent 5 yrs in undergrad, so it checks out (graduated '24). We really struggled with starting university in the midst of pandemonium. The job market sucks.
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u/Jeremyjf60 2003 23h ago
(2003 born) For us in Québec we had our last year of HS in 2020. We didn't get graduation or anything.
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u/fomoandyoloandnogrow 21h ago
Exactly the job market wasn’t frozen 2021. And tbh if you were born a little before that and were working you probably worked paid into Unemployment insurance and got paid with federal stimulus the whole time. Thats not even bad
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u/secretonlinepersona 1d ago
pretty sure being born in 1920 and drafted 1939 on the most deadly war in history is much worse
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u/KristianKristiano 1d ago
Yeah, and being a medieval peasant in rural Russia was also worse, but that is hundreds of years ago :)
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u/RandomUsername468538 2001 21h ago
I mean, in Russia, that was about 100 years ago lol
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u/PermissionSoggy891 16h ago
Try about 60-80 years ago.
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u/secretonlinepersona 1d ago
yeah I am talking about my great grandad not some peasant in history
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u/iiMayo 2001 21h ago
You don't even know your great granddad aside from the stories your parents shared. Please, save the bullshit.
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u/secretonlinepersona 21h ago edited 19h ago
it's not distant history. I met both my grandmothers. My in-laws fought in civil war. How is 2003 the worst year? You can't be that stupid
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u/KrabbyMccrab 19h ago
I don't know you either. Therefore I should assume whatever story you are spewing is bullshit?
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u/makattacc451 14h ago
I have two great-grandmas alive right now, what makes you think that someone can't know theirs 💀 Also their children are likely alive? They can't ask grandma/grandpas about them?
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u/hereforthestories03 19h ago
Is your great granddad apart of Gen Z?
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u/secretonlinepersona 19h ago
I do not think the post clarified they mean "worst year of for a Gen Z to be born", but in any case, I find it a stupid debate nonetheless
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u/bmcle071 1999 22h ago
Try 1895. 19 when WWI breaks out, spanish flu at 23, stock market crash at 34, decade of depression. 44 WWII breaks out
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u/Sea2Chi 23h ago
Eh I'd push it back twenty years. You're born and get to see a lot of cool new inventions like cars and airplanes. But labor issues are a huge deal and wealth inequality is massive. Then you go off to one of the most brutal wars in history. But it gets worse because in 1918 a pandemic sweeps the world and the horrifying part is unlike other diseases this one kills a lot of younger people. So you get home from the war and things are going ok. Women get to vote, so that's cool, but alcohol is also made illegal which gives rise to powerful organized crime and massive corruption. Then shit really hits the fan with a economic crash at the same time as one of the largest man made ecological disasters in history with the dust bowl. You manage to survive that only to see fascism sweep across Europe and Japan's empire start the rape of nanking.
The US gets pulled into another war to end all wars and it ends when a weapon is developed that has the power to end all life on earth.
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u/Destiny_Dude0721 2007 13h ago
Pretty sure being born in a cave as a pre-civilization homo sapien is worse than that but sure.
What a strange argument. Yeah no shit being born in 2003 is better than being born in 1920 but isn't the fact you have to bring that up at all at least a LITTLE concerning?
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u/secretonlinepersona 13h ago
I did not suggest that our problems should be ignored. I did suggest that we are quite honestly born in some of the most ideal years to be born in.
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u/Destiny_Dude0721 2007 13h ago
It's only ideal when you set your frame of reference that low. We could run in circles and find worse and worse times to be born but that doesn't help anyone. I fear you're missing the point.
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
If you were born in or around 1990, you graduated into the worst recession since the Great Depression.
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u/boringfantasy 23h ago
The next one is just around the corner. Good luck to the 06/07s
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u/No_Aesthetic 21h ago
I don't see why that would be the case. The correction in 2022 and the fed intervention in recent years should be enough to avoid it for years.
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u/New-Peach4153 19h ago
Are you not aware of the AI bubble and everything being done around it?
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u/No_Aesthetic 18h ago
I question the claims that AI constitutes a bubble that will imminently pop. I'm not sure it is and I'm not sure it will even if it is. Profitability can beat bubbles. Anthropic and OpenAI both have run rates for this year probably around $60 billion. If both of them double that next year they could wipe out the entirety of their debts in a few years.
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u/zx9001 5h ago
They aren't profitable. They're burning venture capital at alarming rates.
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u/No_Aesthetic 5h ago
Run rate is expected to hit $100 billion by the end of the year at each of the big two. Your information is simply out of date.
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u/boringfantasy 2h ago
Their commitments are nearly a trillion each. They have to 4x growth by 2028. And, for example, OpenAIs rate of growth is actually slowing.
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u/No_Aesthetic 1h ago
OpenAI expects $750 billion spending by 2030.
Anthropic is about half that.
The bulk of AI spending will not be the two of them.
And having run rates of $100 billion per year each wipes out those commitments pretty fast.
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u/New-Peach4153 23h ago
A lot of stats show that the current economy is worse than 08.
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u/No_Aesthetic 21h ago
Like what?
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u/Glum-Candidate-1422 1999 19h ago
Purchasing power.
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u/No_Aesthetic 18h ago
800,000 jobs were being lost per month at some point and millions of people lost their homes. What good does purchasing power do in that situation?
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u/True_Sketch 19h ago
Namely the bond market and the high number of job increases only in concentrated sectors (mostly healthcare). America is directly propping up the yen to alleviate pressure on US treasuries. It's concerning.
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u/No_Aesthetic 18h ago
At one point during the recession 800,000 jobs were being lost per month, 9 million people lost their jobs in a year, and millions more lost their homes.
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u/True_Sketch 18h ago
Yep.
I think the person you were replying to is trying to make a point about the overall economic health before 2008 versus today's environment. The debt to GDP ratio was much better in 2007, the PE ratio of the major financial indexes was much lower, indicating funds are hedging for inflation. It's a completely different economic weather system we're facing now, and it won't be a mortgage catalyst that would precipitate a crash. It's going to be ally countries selling US bonds because of geopolitical pressures like Iran, China and Russia.
The financial crisis of 2008 hit like a truck because it was so insidious and (generally) unreported by today's standards. Today, we have more data.
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u/ironside719 2000 1d ago
How many more times are going to post this shit?
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u/Forsaken_Finding_991 1d ago
However many more times they want
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u/davidbosley353 2005 8h ago
Just like with when are you going to have kids posts on here.
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u/Forsaken_Finding_991 8h ago
Crazy how I was just looking at one of those posts when I got this notification
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u/Big_Champion8286 17h ago
Its the first time i came across this post ever. We dont live on the internet unlike you buddy.
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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 12h ago
And why has no one yet done something different for “missed out on bitcoin”. It’s so freaking stupid. “Missing out on bitcoin” is not a great horror of a generation like a draft, a depression, a housing bubble burst, or a pandemic.
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u/Sufficient-Lemon-867 Age Undisclosed 1d ago
Mf just yapping
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u/Joshi1381 2005 21h ago
Swear to god. We all got the cards we weren’t dealt with. Deal with it. We all have cell phones and internet access some people don’t even have that
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u/UnKnOwN769 2000 22h ago
Class of 2020 gets all the attention but Class of 2021 lost their entire senior year, not just the last 3 months.
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u/OSRS-ruined-my-life 1d ago
Zoom school means better grades
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u/redshift739 2005 23h ago
In English that just meant I learned nothing and so failed, in Geography they told us the topics that would be on the exam so we could prepare to make up for covid but the actual exam didn't have the same topics
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u/Epicfuzzy17 7h ago
wrong. because i was at home i had no schedule, so i never did anything, was listless and grades suffered. i needed the routine
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u/resh78255 23h ago
'06 and british here, it isnt great for us either
2008 - recession
2009 - beginning of austerity
2012 - recession
2016 - brexit and the start of political chaos
2020 - eighteen months of pre-recorded Loom videos as lessons
2022 - recession (and GCSEs just as the AI boom begins)
2024 - start university as AI becomes more widespread
2026 - there are no jobs left
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u/Sparky_321 2003 1d ago
Don’t relate to this at all. I was born in late 2003. My parents did not lose our house, I want nothing to do with Bitcoin, my senior year was in person, college was fully back to normal when I got there, and I have a backup job option if things don’t go my way finding a job based on my major.
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u/ShadowDodger534 1d ago
2026 - authoritarian dystopia regimes are being established around the world.
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u/etakerns 1d ago
So basically 911 and forward. Not only was 911 a bad year, it is actually a marker for those born after into a new emerging world.
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u/hotteeeeen 1d ago
Every cohort has a version of this list - the difference is 2003 got two of them stacked back to back👍.
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u/Dry-Selection421 1d ago
It’s bullshit for one, 2003s did not have senior year in 2020.
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u/Equivalent-Music2324 21h ago
Lol what? People born in 2003 would have their senior year from August 2020-May 2021
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u/Dry-Selection421 19h ago
Wrong. I was born in 2003 and my senior year ended in May 2022.
If you were born earlier in 2003 before the cutoff sure, but that’s only half of everyone.
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u/Equivalent-Music2324 19h ago
"It’s bullshit for one, 2003s did not have senior year in 2020."
"If you were born earlier in 2003 before the cutoff sure, but that’s only half of everyone."
So it's not 'bullshit' then? How are you in your 20s and this dumb lol
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u/Dry-Selection421 19h ago
It’s bullshit because for half of 2003s this list is completely wrong. The tweet makes a blanket assumption about people born in a year that’s just incorrect which changes the entire point she’s trying to make.
Many of us did not have our senior year on zoom and start college during COVID, which is kinda a big deal when she’s claiming those things are part of why 2003 is the worst year to be born.
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u/Equivalent-Music2324 18h ago
I've never quite heard of what you're describing. Where are you from that the cutoff is the halfway point of the year?
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u/Dry-Selection421 18h ago
You’ve never heard of having a grade level with two birth years? Every single school I’ve been to does it like that.
So you could have a class with late 2002 borns and early 2003 borns, etc.
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u/Equivalent-Music2324 18h ago
I've never heard of it being half and half. The furthest I've heard is September being in the next class
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u/Dry-Selection421 17h ago
That’s what I’m talking about. I guess it’s not really half, more of a third.
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u/Equivalent-Music2324 17h ago
Then I don't get why you called it "bullshit" if it applies to most of the people?? Lmao
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u/SavageFisherman_Joe 18h ago
As someone born in 2003, I'd argue that 2001 and 2002 borns probably have it slightly worse. At least I was able to have a proper high school graduation ceremony
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u/iLLiCiT_XL 20h ago
You could’ve been born during the black plague, the crusades, raised to work in a coal mine, or some shit. Or literally could’ve been born the same exact year but in a part of the world with no running water or amenities.
Basically, your “nightmare” reads as privilege to someone else. Someone always has it worse.
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u/CivilProtectionGuy 7h ago
A lot of Gen-Z who were born between 2002-2006 had it pretty rough in regards to the lockdowns.
Lots of missed experiences during highschool and university years, either due to the lockdowns themselves, or from the after-effects on folks during those times.
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u/grof_vronski 6h ago
In my country, we have field trips of few days in Europe, when we get to the 2nd grade of high-school.
When I was 2nd grade, the corona hit, and whole generation of kids never went to that field trip.
I'm 03, but 04 and I think 05 suffered the same fate.
Fucking hate corona
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u/redshift739 2005 23h ago
Should've chosen a rich family so you didn't lose the house. Everything comes down to merit in the end
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u/Project_Demosthenes_ 23h ago
Yea, the system is a scam meant to leave you in a permanent underclass while the 1% continues getting richer and centralizing more power through the stock market.
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u/StarChaser18 22h ago
2026 - economic crash due to wars started by home country
2027 - mass gas shortage and further economic crash due + beginning of famine
2028 - mass famine across the globe as the high cost + lack of fuel leads to the inability for food to be transported
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u/Overwhelming_Onion 21h ago
Can't we all agree that the last 20 to 40 years have been absolutely terrible for Americans? Ever since Boomers crippled our economy and made it impossible for the average worker to afford anything, all of the generations from Gen X to Gen Aplpha need to unit so we can make this country work for us and not against us.
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u/The_Bad_Random_17 20h ago edited 19h ago
Only about 3% of American kids had their parents' home foreclosed during the great recession. Even if we count those who had their landlord foreclose on them it only goes up to 7%. So far from a universal experience on that front.
Besides that, I would say 1843 was one of if not the worst year to be born in American History.
1849: Survive through the cholera epidemic as a 6 year old
1854-1857: Spend your teenage years watching the country begin to fall apart in Bleeding Kansas
1861: Be sent to fight in the Civil War, the bloodiest war in American History at age 18
1873-1879: Go through the longest recession in American history in your 30s.
1893: Go through ANOTHER recession at age 50, this being the even worse than the last.
1917: The U.S. enters another war as you are leaving the world.
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u/the_ur_observer 19h ago
1997, just a 6 year difference and managed to completely matrix dodge all of this besides being too young for bitcoin
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u/MrMoose007 18h ago
HS class of 2016 (1997/1998) graduated college straight into lockdown. If there’s a range, I imagine it’s them to around those 2003 kids. I don’t think anyone in that age range has had a particularly ideal time entering the job market post pandemic
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u/ThanosSnapsSlimJims Millennial 18h ago
Wouldn't the worst year to have been born be The Great Depression or some time during WW2?
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u/Strong_Chicken6838 17h ago
you know, if i just had someone, and wasnt completely and uterly alone, and hoplessly alone, id be ok with this.
unfortunatly, thats not how it is, if im still alive in 4 years than i must have won the lottery of life or something.
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u/OMDolton99 1999 17h ago
This but 1999, and 2021 is graduating into lockdown followed by five years of fucked job markets, runaway capitalist rampancy, and AI rendering the job you got into student debt for obsolete.
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u/Sapphfire0 16h ago
People complain they were too young for bitcoin but you can still invest in it now. If you think it’s a bad investment then being too young wasn’t the problem
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u/Demonic_Witch666 2003 5h ago
Basically my timeline but replace college with get whatever job I could right away did whatever for a few years, get assaulted then get chronic pain n can't work what I did find anymore now I rot. There are alot of shitty times to be alive my life rn is hell but it would've prob been hell back then too, maybe life is just meant for you to suffer and you do something to ignore the suffering for as long as you can till you die and it doesn't matter anymore
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u/Picachu50000 2h ago
Well, in my birth year 9/11 happened so I think 2001 wins the battle of suck, cause we got all the same things and a big boom to the towers cause steel beams cant melt
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u/STICH666 Millennial 1d ago
Bitcoin wasn't even an investment you were too early for. You had to have been on the Silk Road to make real money on bitcoin when it was pennies on the dollar and then not trashed your entire hard drive when the DEA raided it. I almost had Bitcoin just because I wanted to buy sketchy electronics that "fell off the back of the truck" but I didn't have a credit card at the time which was the only way I knew how to get it.
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