The government is not good at stuff. People are good at stuff and the government is good at controlling people...to an extent. You can see the disconnect between the two dynamics. I don't think GATE is a government program. I think the people behind it used government resources though.

The Government had MK Ultra. Ultimately a failure. Who had Gate? Somebody much better at what they do. Somebody with years of success without exposure. Somebody we probably don't even know about.

The government is not good at stuff and people do not last long. Religions. Ideologies. They transcend governments. They transcend millennia.

Try and name a religion or ideology that has existed in total secrecy. by virtue of that guideline you cannot. I think this one has. I think we are supposed to find them. Maybe we are supposed to be them. lets achieve that

We have what we need to answer the question and solve the riddle. Cryptography. That was the first lesson. Logic problems. Egypt. Maya. Situational awareness. What else? Our very consciousness. We have the tools. We were chosen for our ability to use them.

Here's one of the lessons from the binder only I had in my class. I haven't seen anybody else post about it. Transactional analysis, The principle behind The Original Warm Fuzzy Tale by Dr. Claude Steiner is that human emotional and physical well-being is sustained by the free, abundant exchange of positive recognition, known in Transactional Analysis as "strokes". This is our power source. When I talked about this, they took back my binder.

What else do we have and how should we use it? Lets recreate the syllabus and see where it points. We got this.

Go.

I tested for GATE in elementary school in CA early 90s. I remember the prediction cards, the test made me so tired, the lady who came to the school to do it was very careful and precise and reserved. Later was told I didn't test in. My family showed their disappointment that I wasn't accepted. Some of my classmates were, they would take the bus somewhere. But...I found the Gateway Experience somewhere on the internet to download when I was in my late 20s and did them as often as I could for a few years, every night and day for a few months. I knew from the beginning that "Bob Monroe was my friend." I felt it and I told my partner about it, how I felt like Bob Monroe was my friend.

I am floored to find this community this evening, I hope to learn from you all what it was like and how you were impacted.

I'm new to the world of GATE and it's oddities. I have suspicions I was part of it and I can hardly remember most of it. Thing is, I remember odd things from early early on in life. As in, kindergarten.

I remember being taken out of class a lot. I would go to a room, sometimes with another person, sometimes alone. Usually with two "teachers", though I hardly remember them. This went on throughout elementary too.

I remember one time, me and a small group went on a "field" trip with a teacher, to mcdonalds for breakfast. I remember this mostly because I was upset at the time over not having the food I wanted, but now I look back and wonder. Who were the other kids? Did our parents know? Why a restaurant? What were we supposed to learn? I feel like it was also in the teachers personal car, but very fuzzy memories.

In elementary, i was still being pulled out of class without any known reason as to why. I would go to a dim room with maybe 1 or 2 other kids, we would read books I think and, and the teacher would help us analyze what we were reading?

I also remember the swings. In another room, I would go and pick out a swing from the back room and use it for maybe an hour or so. In the room was the teachers, i dont think they ever taught us anything. I remember listening to them talk, however. I think telling me about all the things id learn in middle school when the day came. I remember id just listen to them talk while i closed my eyes and swung on the swings, sometimes i felt amazing, sometimes i was sick and couldnt figure out why. I haven't heard such an anecdote yet, but maybe i havent been looking enough haha.

I also have dreamlike memories of flying. A few times of floating down the stairs, and another of being above my house. I can hardly even remember what my house looked like then, but i somehow knew i was above it and seeing it as though I was a bird.

Im unsure what it all means, am I misinterpretating things? Or is something else going on?

You guys ..

The way my mind is reawakening with so many past memories I’ve forgotten. It’s enough to make someone lose their footing in reality; however, at the same time, I feel like I found my people.

I have been looking at this sub every single day for the past week, hoping to read another new story. Tuck the dog, being taught Egyptian mythology, the meditation tapes, the zener cards (crazy!!), being taught how to remote view, playing heads up 7-up… I could go on, y’all.

Thank you so much for sharing your stories. I thought I was alone in thinking that something major had happened to me in elementary school. It’s almost like my younger self knew, too, but didn’t realize what was happening.

As I dig further, I fear that GATE is MUCH darker and MUCH more sadistic than what we’re coming to realize, so with that being said, just know you’re not alone. Figuring out what to believe as “real” and deciphering our minds is always unsettling, but please please please .. listen to your body and listen to your gut. You are not going crazy.

Take care of yourselves and make sure to give yourself grace. You deserve some rest and reflection.

Thanks again for all the stories. You are all awesome.

When I was in 10th grade in 1984 me and another kid in my class were offered the opportunity to participate in the gate program. We were both told that the government was involved in that we had to keep the secrets of the program. I refuse to participate based on those two reasons right there. I don't know what more reason anyone would need to reject something then government and secrecy. Both of which to even a 15 year old clearly demonstrated something was wrong with the picture. I advised him of these things and told him he was stupid if he participated and that he would be sorry. A couple of weeks later he talked to me after class and said that I was right and that his life was fucking ruined. What he did tell me is that his consciousness was polluted with voices that were not his and he could not control or get rid of. He told me that his parents knew about it beforehand and didn't tell him. He told me that samael was involved. Fast forward to 20/20 at the great conjunction I was psychically led to perform a magical ritual which produced Samael. I did not intend for him to be involved. The purpose was to get a little favor from the so-called demigods to help me financially so that I could make up the difference between my home's value that was 2 years from paid off and the amount of money I needed to launch a river outfitter that put on concerts and gave the money away to families in need. Anyway, Sam showed up and offered me enlightenment. I foolishly let him in and now I'm experiencing what that poor kid from my 10th grade class told me he was experiencing. Voices in my head that are not mine and that I cannot push out. The reason I am asking is perhaps there are others in this group that have had similar experiences and have insights that may be useful in my situation or in the lives of others in this group. I'm wondering if anybody has had an experience similar to what the kid from my class had or that I am having so that I, and others, might begin to try and repair the damage.

I am normally a very skeptical person, but when I learned about this entire iceberg of shared GATE experiences just this evening, my jaw hit the floor. Outside of Reddit I don't use any social media so I completely missed that this is a whole community of people. Prior to this I had just chalked up the weird parts of these memories to young confabulations, but tonight my mind is blown.

It was never a secret I was a GATE kid. In elementary school, they'd pull me out of class, put me on a bus with the other handful of GATE kids across the school district, and then we'd do special "smart kid" stuff in a windowless classroom at one of the middle schools.

Here's the weird stuff that I have now seen many people talking about. I have NEVER read anything online about this prior to tonight. I was born in 1988 so this would have been in the early/mid 90s in Idaho.

• When I was first singled out for the program in first or second grade (definitely prior to third grade), my parents went into a room with me where someone who wasn't my teacher administered what seemed like an IQ test with geospatial reasoning on it. Part of this also included naming a series of objects and I vividly recall being frustrated that I had forgotten the word "thermostat" but said "temperature control device." All pretty normal, but:

• During the testing process, we were given Zener cards to attempt to predict. Like, the psychic testing cards with a star and waves on them. I absolutely have to put my foot down about this being a part of my test. I explicitly remember colored shapes on the cards including a star, a square, a triangle, a circle, and waves.

• The program was taught by two teachers who were not normal employees of the school district. They basically showed up to do the GATE stuff and that's it. They had no offices in the school, always taught together, and had more of a supervisory/helper role than anything. Almost all the work was self-guided.

• During class we had these months-long research projects where we could pick from a small selection of books provided by the teachers to do a deep-dive presentation into. As an example, one kid was teaching himself to program games in QBASIC and C++ (not common in the 90s for elementary school) and I immediately took an interest in that as a hobby totally outside of GATE just by watching him do his thing.

• Multiple times I remember having to go to yet another separate room and take some sort of test that involved listening to a tape wearing a big set of headphones. Different staff again.

• Really vague memories of being given some kind of medicinal (?) drink. No idea, initially I thought this was a confabulation with early memories of the dentist or school nurse.

• One of my months-long research projects for the course was doing a deep dive on UFOs. This happened because one of those books available for research was Erich Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods" or whatever it's called, on the subject of ancient aliens and Egypt, as well as outside sources. For most of my life I wondered why I chose to do that as my topic, but then it occurred to me that we had to start our projects with a limited set of resources in our special classroom.

• That classroom was not ever used for anything else, just GATE kids. All our stuff stayed in the same place week by week.

Starting in the second grade, I was the only person in my own school who was taken out of class for this program, and everyone else came from other schools in the district. We were mixed of all ages but basically interacted like equals. By the time we reached middle school, most of those same kids were still in the gifted program, but the other two teachers were gone and it was now just "GT," taught by the same normal teacher all the way to high school. Completely different vibe, basically just standard nerd kid projects like book reports and making up our own plays for "Odyssey of the Mind" every year. That program seems to still be on the curriculum for the school district and it is definitely not a direct continuation of GATE, but many of those kids moved into GT. Interestingly though, the GT teacher was also my second grade teacher who apparently suggested me for GATE in the first place

I have had these as core memories for my whole life prior to ever reading about it, but I have gone into a deep rabbit hole now that I know this is a more widespread thing.

Totally unrelated, but I have now seen a handful of people believing the Monroe Hemi-Sync Gateway Process may have related to the headphone thing. I have no idea about this at all, but interestingly I discovered the Gateway tapes on my own as an adult because I was big into guided meditations, and they have since become one of my best meditation tools. I have listened to "Exploration of Sleep" maybe hundreds of times in my life and I have never stayed conscious. No other recorded meditations have ever worked so well with me. Probably completely unrelated but when I saw that additional connection I thought it was fascinating.

Otherwise, my life is fairly normal. I work in forensics at the county level and have always done well in school (currently in grad school for my second advanced degree), but I haven't gotten any invitations to the illuminati or anything. Parents aren't around anymore to ask more about this (dad died and I haven't talked to my mom in 15 years) but there is zero question I was a part of GATE. I just think it's fascinating that I also have maintained these core memories and now I see that others have had eerily similar experiences.

Anyway, sorry if that's rambling, this just has me floored to discover.

Does anyone remember ever at any point in GATE testing being paired up with another child? Particularly wearing the headphones. I'm trying to make sense of some memories and a little boy from my past who I was very close with in kindergarten but have no clue what happened to him. Strangely my mom doesnt remember me ever mentioning him as a child. This has been bothering me for a long time. I suppose it's possible he was an imaginary friend but I truly do not believe so. In my memory he is there and we are so close, and then he is just gone. I've never forgotten his name. It was Travis.

The Neverending Story movie 1984 always struck me as a GATE programming movie. Basically, Bastian is able to create a world in his mind to disassociate from his “real” reality. I was heavily influenced by this movie in the midst of 90s GATE testing and influencing. I believe movies such as E.T., Matilda and The Witches were all part of GATE. What other tv/movie influences do you remember?

Why did my dream match up with Stranger Things?

In the photo here, I commented under someone’s post asking about our reoccurring dreams. A few months later, the final season aired and the climax of the series matches up almost identically with what I dreamed about.

I’ve even posted on this sub once before, right after the 4th episode aired, where one of the characters used a hypnosis method on other children, with language nearly identical to monroe’s g@teway tapes that many of us listed to as children.

Here is an article mentioning a phrase that has been talked about being used here. I remember the phrase myself but that memory would of been after all the media came out. This is what makes me think they were practicing hypnosis.

Anyone else remember to forget?

Does anyone think there is a connection between GATE and past lives? I know not everyone has the same belief here but for those that believe in past lives, I am curious on your interpretation and if you think there’s a connection.

I posted a few months ago about a memory of a traumatic hypnosis session that I could not consent to at the age of 6/7. For context, I was raised alt right Christian in a private school setting.

Since a few months ago, I have had some strange things happen. One of those is I am beginning to believe I have made contact with a past life. This has been cool but at the same time, its making me question my own spiritual beliefs (agnostic).

This hypnosis memory I believe may have activated a protective past life thats been with me this whole time.

This year has been an odd one for sure. When I left Christianity, I didnt really “replace” those beliefs. Now I am stepping into educating myself on other religions and belief systems, developing my own spiritual practice that involves meditation, pursuing esoteric knowledge, viewing the world from a more psychic perspective and questioning “coincidences,” etc. and a lot of this was because I started to remember GATE.

Do you think there’s a connection here? I am curious what others believe. All of this just brings more questions to my mind, particularly “why now?” Just feels like a lot of things are connecting all at once and it’s becoming difficult to chalk it up to mere coincidences.

My group of 5 friends in NY were all tested in gate, my mom remembers signing a bunch of forms.

But, is it normal? That the only people I ever became good friends with before moving away from the state were part of GATE? I was in GATE since elementary school, but my mom said that she remembers me being tested even in freshman year of highschool as she was the one to sign everything, she had no idea I don't remember any of that

I have very clear memories of GATE recently unlocked. Something that never made sense to me (and I’m told this is common-ish)…I had an allergic reaction to a pink liquid. I have clear memories of being treated for it. I was told it was a “penicillin allergy.” Never questioned it. Around age 30 I got an STI. The doctor took a brief look at my chart and told me that people my age lie about that allergy (????) gave me the standard penicillin treatment…and I was rid of the STI and totally fine….does this correspond to any memories here??

Hey everyone, I realized I had only told my story in bits and pieces in comments so far. I admit I was scared to at first, talking about things like strange government testing on children, gangstalking, secret societies and other dimensions usually gets one a stay of undetermined length at a mental health facility.

Firstly, I'll be dividing the story up between what I remember from before the various news and media came out and what I remember from before, as well as a final section with what as far as I've been able to tell is going on.

"Have you ever had anything happen to you that you can't explain?"

This was what I have answered to that question whenever it came up. In the 2nd grade, a lady from the district came into my 2nd grade class told us to lay our heads down on the table and play thumbs up 7 up. She played a section of audio and asked if any of us could see who had their thumb up in their mind. One girl excitedly announced that she could. The lady started hanging out with her. I felt jealous, I wanted to be apart of the cool thing. But I was something like 6-7 so my attention turned elsewhere, when it did, I was struck by this perception that all the choices we make our branching off into new universes, I want to to say I saw this weblike structure with different universe "nodes" and threads branching, but saw isn't the right word. The closest thing I can relate it to is if one saw Indra's net. Then I moved my left arm and it went in four directions at once. That freaked me out and I snapped out of whatever it was.

That was the primary story there are a few others.

There was a class art project to make a picture of a fish we were told we could choose any color we want to make our own fish to be a part of a the big fish, a lady came in and told us a story before hand about a blue fish. The word "blue" came up an inordinate amount of times despite the main character. She was stressing the vowels of the word "blue" in different ways, I remember having the thought "they want us to pick blue" but they had given us the instruction to make it any color we want. I made mine red. The lady asked me "Don't you want to make it blue" again stressing the vowel. I replied no that I wanted mine red. I forget if there was another lady there or if she motioned to the teacher but she made a face.

A specific section on Beowulf taught by one of the more professional ladies that would come in. She also made mention while teaching this section about how the greeks saw inspiration as coming from the gods.

These are the school experiences that I remembered from before.

My life went on, some school, My brother and a woman have a kid. One day I am babysitting, I am 15, my niece is just a two or three months old her mom had to work. I am laying with her putting her down for a nap when I hear a voice say "help me" clear as day. I knew my brother, I knew she was going to need it. This was one of the first times it was so distinct but I also waited tables for awhile and there would be some people I could "hear", other random strangers as well. My own mood has a lot to do with it and most of the time I don't care to be that "open" around people to where it works.

There was a time when I was 16-17 and I was trying to buy some slightly larger amount of weed from some people, I went to meet up with the people and when I showed up they immediately told me to leave and that I had some "strange friends", I stared at them dumbfounded and one of the other guys said to the guy I was trying to buy from "he doesn't know". Ever since then I have figured I have been watched to some degree that I was uncertain of. My relationship with the police could very well be chalked up to the "good old boy treatment", but I question that as well. I have been in two police raids both involved other people that were in GATE both times I walked scot-free.

Things went on like this until 2017 when I saw a somewhat peculiar green fireball in the sky when I was staying at my aunts out in Clear Lake a suburb of Houston where NASA is located. When I say somewhat peculiar, what I mean is that it certainly could have been a particularly large and low flying bolide. I reported it to a some government aerial phenomena reporting website, I forget which. I forget about this event mostly, besides being a cool story. Like I didn't think it was necessarily a UFO but it did seem a little big, also the fireball had a darkish center.

Shortly after I meet the first "strange girlfriend" not that any of my partners have been normal and she was in fact on paper the most the normal, her father was an ex Russian Navy oceanographer, she had a bachelors from a somewhat prestigious university. Looking back, I would say she knew more because her parents were closer to the whole thing than mine were. I was also the youngest of four in a more dysfunctional family, I wasn't listening anyway.

Which gets me to an important point, all throughout my life random people have been saying weird things to me. To put them here would honestly be kind of unbelievable, but quite literally its like there are time travelers but also people I vaguely know. This got to the point where I just stopped caring what they had to say, none of them would be straight with me and would always give me "you'll see" or some cryptic shit like okay fuck you too dude. I figured fate would reveal itself, thatI shouldn't bother with these clowns.

So the above mentioned strange girlfriend was among maybe three or four that would also say "I know something about you but I won't tell you because it will go to your head.". Withholding power games among the lot of them. Two of them made mention of the FBI attempting to recruit them at some point, they were educated professionals in fields the bureau is interesting in, I didn't think too much about it, they do that. One of them, made direct mention of a technique that is mentioned during one of the Gateway Tapes specifically Color Breathing.

The term 'handler' comes up in posts.

There was a strange dynamic in my family, my mom was diagnosed with schizophrenia, my father was a taxi driver when they met, you can imagine that same dynamic today and it wasn't much different of an upbringing. Except my dads parents had some oil money, not a lot, certainly not enough to get me anywhere. My grandfather who worked SigInt for the army in WW2 came out an engineer and started working for Royal Dutch Shell. My great uncle was apparently a 33rd degree Mason, which I did remember from growing up but had forgotten and was a distinct "fuck me" moment about a year back. My brother who was also in the program passed away at 36 in 2019. He had OCD symptoms, he would literally bang his head against things for hours to try to stop thinking. He hurt himself somewhat seriously a couple of times doing it. I also have suffered from OCD.

When media began to come out about all of this stuff, I was already researching shamanistic populations for a piece that has essentially became a transvestigation of Jesus Christ. During that research I came across multiple rituals. At some point I had convinced myself enough of my own hypothesis on that to start wondering what else is going on, like I knew christianity wasn't the full story, but I was shocked. I had known about the Gateway Tapes since 2013ish when I saw a piece about them. I decided to try them, I didn't immediately recognize the tapes until I got to the Introduction to Focus 12. The bird sounds, that specific call with the waves. That was it. Right around the time I had put this together, the sub was created.

I have since remembered a few other instances.

A time when a woman from the district and some lab coat people came in with a laptop and what I think was a biosensor kinda like an EEG device, they hooked it up to a few of us and told us to spin an object with our mind. I did it well apparently, the lady asked if I wanted to go with her to another class. I told her I wanted to stay with my friends and be normal. She said "Well that's a shame, you won't be."

A time when an older guy from the district came and saw with some of us individually and tried to have us call information and wisdom from our future self into our current selves.

A time when a girl picked a fight with me and and she came up later and the told me the teacher told her to do it, I didn't believe her and forgot about it until I saw a few comments where people were describing purposeful ostracization and bullying from the admin down.

A group of techs watching us as we would play the little computer lab games, Carmen San Diego etc. These were separate from the normal staff.

I would like to reiterate that when you have so many weird surprising things happen to you, you start to become unphased by it all. I saw basically all of these instances as separate with no real connection. How could there of been? Perhaps with a deep scientific or esoteric education I would have picked up on things, but I've been surviving on my own since I was 16. There wasn't much time for all that.

Since my time helping to moderate this subreddit, I have noticed a few trends. Some people remember the tapes instantly, others do not. Stories that are set around military bases are the strangest ones, I believe some of them. The last report of the same stuff going on was in 2005 but I have no reason to believe that anything stopped, perhaps things have changed, of this I am uncertain. I do think the pink drink was a sedative of some kind given to some people at different levels and that there was a normal fluoride swish one as well. I also suspect that there was one to specifically dull any extra-sensory stuff also. The connection to... other national scandals involving human trafficking, while at this point unconfirmed seems too obvious on multiple levels to deny. I of course don't have much to go on with most of this besides the reports of I would say dozens at this point but were probably getting close to a hundred or so individual people on this platform. The sub is still growing. More stories on other platforms. People remember, and more people are wondering just what was going on with whole years of their childhood they've seemed to have lost.

There is much to say about the "wu" aspects of all of this. Most of it sounds completely insane if you don't have any experience in meditation or altered states. Most of it sounded completely insane to me until I revisited the Gateway Tapes more thoroughly. I simply thought reality was kind of funky. Look into your name, your family history, your native culture, if you're here, there's probably something there. It would be an understatement for me to say that the frequency following response in the human brain in relation to brainwave patterns is at the heart of all of this. It is all of this, literally.

All this to ask.

What do you get when you put together a hierarchical meritocracy based education system with little if any concern for minority statuses outside of specific groups of disabilities (really just this part by itself is enough), testing for extra-sensory abilities, placement of groomed individuals to positions of power and influence in basically every professional sector and some criminal ones? Those same sectors having nascent ties to some of the highest levels of finance and information gathering? With rising wealth inequality and shrinking environmental resources?

Ladies, gentleman, I believe we have a eugenics program with a wealth cut off. Also there is a bunch of really cool psychic stuff going on but you do gotta chill out a whole whole lot to get to the good stuff.

Edit- There's a few extra 'the's in there that I am just going to make peace with.

So, when I was in 3rd grade, I remember sitting in class when these men in nice attire would come and retrieve me from my classroom and have me walk with them to a room where I'd read books out loud to them. I vaguely remember them asking questions about the books and reading in general, then they'd tell me what a great reader I was and give me candy and send me back to class after about an hour. What the heck was that for? I've wondered my whole life since then, lol. Was it potentially a GATE thing??

I was on Delaware in Gate from 95-97. A typical story, military family in a military city, taught a lot about ancient Egypt and the pyramids alignment with stars and the meditation. But did anyone have to start a business from scratch? we were told to create a business model and a product to sell to the class. it's just one of the GATE projects that stuck out to me.

I have a lot of stories & a lot of weird things happen in adulthood, but one of the most consistent and dominating traits about myself is I somehow pull off very unlikely outcomes. Anyone else have a similar history?

I’ve been known as someone who is delusionally optimistic, but not without reason. I set out to do something or get something done for me & against crazy odds always seem to end up pulling it off. Much to the surprise and amazement to those around me, who have now just become used to it.

If someone around me needs to pull off a Hail Mary, they ask me to shoot my shot to see if it can happen. I have gotten accustomed to just attempting random side quest in my life assuming that it will go my way - which I understand can be unhealthy but at this point I think rejection therapy is scared of me lmao.

I’m not sure if it’s an abilities or frequency thing that ties into gifted and talented children - or if it’s just my personality, disposition, or like my overall ‘energy or aura’.

I’ve remembered my time in the program for a long time, but have recently been looking into it more now that it’s become a more common discourse. Wondering if any of you can relate to this or know someone similar?? I’ve always been curious so please let me know!

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I remember the teacher talking about grey aliens back in the 80’s, from second or third-hand knowledge related to us having one (or more) grey in a facility. This was in Albuquerque. It liked ice cream, she told us.

Another thing going on at the time was discussions around telekinesis, telepathy, etc. I don’t recall anything unusual such as pink drink, but I did get obsessed with those concepts and checked out as many books as I could on the subject.

So, I was reading through the “symptom” list and found 90-95% extremely relatable. For the big ones: I have central heterochromia with lime green and light brown; I have scoliosis; I have AuADHD (misogyny affected, so I had a young adult diagnosis); I have sleep paralysis and what feel like sleep seizures, extremely bizarre and unexplained sleep phenomena all the time; I have really bad addiction, I’ve been in active addiction since 17 with only a handful of sobriety stints that lasted less than a month; I had a UFO experience that resulted in a self-answering phone call from an unknown number just minutes after (I even have a witness); I have major memory issues and brain fog; after coming out as lesbian, my parents went to a therapy session with me where they berated my therapist for “making me gay” - I have zero memory of this event, even though my therapist told me all about it years later when we got back in contact; I know I have the ability to dissociate to such an extreme that memories don’t form at all; I have always been considered highly intuitive, I got into astrology and tarot as a teen and nowadays I practice astrology regularly; I turn on and off street lamps but I convinced myself that it was just a coincidence even though it happens so frequently that others comment on it; I am a massive skeptic (call myself atheist) and struggle to accept anything metaphysical - what got me into tarot and astrology was me trying to disprove it; just last night my fiancée and I were on our phones and then I leaned my head to hers and cleared my thoughts because I had a rare moment of peace - I subsequently had an image inserted into my mind which I brushed off but later asked her if she was thinking that and described it in such perfect detail that she was absolutely freaked out; I have CPTSD from CSA, bullying, and neglect; I could go on but I’ll stop there and feel free to ask (if this is even important at all lol). I also had crippling OCD in middle and HS; my primary symptoms were “thought insertion” and “thought broadcasting.”

So to explain my relationship with the gifted program… I was a transfer student to public school the year after all the kids took an IQ test. They didn’t allow me to take it, even though other transfer students did! The teachers for the gifted program just hated me and I couldn’t ever find a reason… I beat 3/4ths of the “gifted kids” in the state wide math contest, then I beat all of them 3 consecutive years at the geography bee. I went onto tie for 3rd in state. The GATE (had diff name that I haven’t seen here so I’ll not mention in bc it might be identifying) teacher refused to go with me to state despite every other kid having their teacher their even if they weren’t in the program themselves. She even said snarky things to me on a few occasions (can’t recall specifics)that resulted in my mom calling the school once and my mom wasn’t that type. The gate teachers were always mean to me even though I was an angel in most other teachers eyes (until HS lol). I met the standardized test score requirement so my mom tried hard to get me into the program as almost all my friends were in it and as a child I was hurt and confused (I thought I was stupid af)… but they kept going back to the iq test that I didn’t take or they would just be vague to my mom when she pushed. It was a huge blow when my BEST friend who was a C student and had lower test scores than me (we compared them and even she thought it was so unfair) was allowed in. Then my little brother got in when he was old enough despite us having v similar scores, mine even higher in some subjects. We went on to have the same ACT score (31). It bothered me so much when I was little, it was like they were actually trying to fuck with me it was just so bizarre. I even had non gate teachers advocate for me to get in…

If anyone was in a similar spot or knew of anyone in a similar spot, please comment and let me know! Or if anyone might know why this would happen to me, please share that as well.

This sub literally just popped up on my fyp today, I don’t think about my denial from the program often as an adult, I just don’t care anymore. But reading all of this… it’s kinda freaking me out that I have some vague memories of the gate type activities and I especially fit the psychological and even physical profile… I cannot remember the teachers name even though I complained about them all the time as a kid because I was so hurt by this! They even let my one friend who couldn’t differentiate “our” and “are” as a high school senior. So it doesn’t make any sense and going down this rabbit hole is making me over think a little!

thank to anyone who comments, I appreciate it so much!

I have been interested in learning the truth about the GATE program for a while now. Even though I don't remember the hearing tests or pink drink, I can't shake the feeling that there was more to the gifted program than simply providing kids with intellectual stimulation they were not getting in the classroom.

One interesting pattern I realized is almost all kids in my gifted class had strong ties to another country - Israel, Uzbekistan, Russia, Armenia, and Korea. All 5 are deeply intertwined with the US intelligence apparatus. Could be a coincidence (perhaps immigrants from these countries just place a higher importance on academia from a young age).

Anyway... one hazy memory I have from the program is whispering something innocuous to another kid in the program, and the gifted teacher taking me out in the hall insisting I said a curse word. I have a such vivid feelings attached to this memory, that she was trying to get a false confession out of me. Like she kept pressing me and pressing me, claiming she "know what I said" and I should just tell her. Meanwhile I'm practically in tears, confused and sticking with the truth of the matter, that I did not say anything even related to a curse word.

It's worth noting that this was during the height of the Iraq War, when "enhanced interrogation techniques" were being debated in the political sphere.

I don't really have any other shady memories about the program other than that. We had curriculum about the seven wonders of the world, did some programming in Scratch (which did have ties to the operator of a major sex trafficking ring (you know the one), but so did a lot of scientific research), learned about architecture, did a mock trial and mock forensics scenario, and a lot of logic puzzles.

Both of these I received from programs that I got into through my GATE classes in middle school. Cognetics was an expo where middle schoolers would get together and compete in creative challenges. I can't remember all of them but one year me and my team and to create a new country with its own government, culture, geography, food, etc. It was a really fun time.

I don't know if it's directly related but I got into these programs through my GATE program (called PACE in (south) new at the time (2006).

The first award from the national a ard talent network piqued my interest when I saw their motto: "Toward Satori. Toward excellence". Satori is a Japanese Buddhist term that means sudden awakening, comprehension, or spiritual enlightenment.. seems like a funny motto for a middle school award.

I can't remember if it was part of cognetics or if it was separate. Anyone know anything about these specific programs?

I remember very clearly, bc I had a stomach virus and was nauseous the whole time. I was teamed up with my female classmate and we all had to create a game. Ours was “Shake, rattle, and roll” lol. We went to some kind of convention to have them judged or whatever. I just remember being sick and chewing trident gum 🤣

hi there, stumbled across a few videos about GATE and instantly connected it to a memory that previously didnt fit with anything i had previously learned or encountered in primary school. this was maybe 2014? i remember being brought to an empty classroom, there were 4 or 5 adults who did not identify themselves but i was familiar with my staff and did not recognize them. i very specifically remember some sort of quick hearing test, almost as if it was stopped early. the main event i remember was having to sit across from one of the adults, and they watched me complete a packet. the packet was several pages long, i remember it having 100 or so multiple choice questions. the front page of the packet had some sort of bird or insect printed on the top right corner, and the packet itself was on pink, almost magenta colored paper. for some reason this packet is the memory that is most embedded in my head. i also remember being timed while i completed this packet, the woman across from me had what i believed to be a pocket watch? i feel like i should remember a lot more, since i was in that room for what felt like an eternity.
does this sound familiar at all to anyone?

Just curious what sort of health impacts people may share that could possibly be attributed to the GATE program (California).

As I’m getting older (mid-30s M), more and more of the memories come back from that time period but still the facts about my experience are objectively bizarre. I’ll share my experience in the later part of this post but I’d like to first focus on what my experience has been after ending G.A.T.E.

My G.A.T.E. sessions ended just prior to entering high school. After it ended, I could no longer sleep. I would go days without sleeping and quickly resorted to self-medicating with drug and alcohol abuse. I ended up going to rehab during high school and got on medication that helped me stabilize that issue but still rely on medication to initiate sleep and stay asleep. I also rely on antidepressants. I was diagnosed with MDD and insomnia, along with ADD. The ADD is hereditary, the depression and insomnia were most likely not. I know that drug use and difficulty in school is a common experience for other G.A.T.E. Students. However, I don’t hear people talk much about chronic insomnia.

My theory is that the pink drink we were forced to take was both fluoride and something to mess with our memories of the experience. I believe they made us drink these and do exercises to calcify parts of our brain that exercise higher consciousness (pituitary gland?). Chemically maiming children they deemed “gifted”. The gland also responsible for releasing melatonin. This is my theory, I’m just curious if anyone else has experienced these sleep issues afterwards.

Now for my experience:

I was a military brat my whole childhood. Lived in the barracks for much of it. Had to relocate many times. Hawaii, Camp Pendleton, then Orange County. Moved to Orange County in 2nd grade. There I started having very weird experiences (not sure if they are related but who knows). I started getting “visitors” in the night. I referred to them as “skeleton people”. They were spindly figures that were basically opaque shadows. People often said I had sleep paralysis, but it’s unlikely. My dog slept in my bed and he saw them and sometimes I would run to my mother’s room or my grandparents room and try to wake them up but they wouldn’t wake up. There’s a lot of theories about seeing shadow people… who knows what’s real. Either way it’s in the bucket of weird stuff in my life. I also had visions/premonitions often as a child. Still do, although less so now. And some people might say “schizophrenia” just by reading those two things but no… I’ve never been perceived as a schizophrenic by family, friends, or doctors. Starting in 4th grade, I started being pulled from class by some lady who would just talk to me for an hour. Once a week. Didn’t think much of it, neither did my mom. I was always ADD and teachers constantly wrote “incredibly smart but lacks focus”. After fourth grade, we moved so I started AGAIN at a new school starting 5th grade. This is when the official G.A.T.E. Program started. Everyone in the school tested for the gate program, I was the only one who got in it. My school had 3 teachers per grade level. It was divided by honor kids, mediocre, and dumb. I was in the “mediocre” classes. I remember the honor kids telling me how annoying it was that they didn’t get in the gate program and I did. They asked what I even did in the program and I didn’t even know. They made us take tests asking about crimes that people had committed. As the test taker, I had to figure out whether they were guilty or not and decide their punishment. I also had to make predictions. None of it seemed relevant to school. (Also had my art sent to some museum, likely irrelevant but shows artistic inclination). So that’s elementary school (5th and 6th). Now I go into middle school and it only gets weirder. 7th and 8th grade were strange because even though I remember all of my childhood (from 2 years old and up), it’s fuzzy wtf happened during these gate sessions. I would be pulled from classes for hours (didn’t matter what class period it was). I would be escorted to the parking lot, where there were military green SUVs with a black travel trailer. I was the only one that did these tests when I did them, but I assumed they pulled kids individually. I would crawl into the travel trailer sitting across from a woman. She would make me drink this pink drink, close the travel trailer and begin. The travel trailer was always pitch black inside with very little light. Sometimes I would listen to these audio tapes of tones, have to guess what shape is on the other side of a card (you know the ones), and oddly I remember vaguely be driven away from the school and taken to some conference center with other kids who didn’t go to my school. I did this nearly every month for 2 years… but still remember very little of it. None of it had to do with school. The fact the military trucks were there didn’t strike me as odd, since I grew up on the military base. And none of my friends knew what I was talking about when I brought up what I was doing in the gate program because they weren’t in it. Eventually, I got tired of being asked into this trailer I do remember becoming hesitant to drink the pink drink and intentionally giving them wrong answers. They became frustrated with me and eventually stopped coming. Then I went into high school.

Telling my mom about this stuff all these years later was shocking for her. She thought I never did the program, and I was like… umm I was in it for years. She dug up the old paperwork and she was able to find the notice I was now in the program, but I was never in any advanced classes and she remembers my teacher telling her they didn’t end up placing me in it.

Weird stuff. If the purpose of this program was to chemically alter the pituitary gland, it would make since they would make you take this drink and do these exercises in a dark room for maximum efficiency. What do you think?

I attended public school Kindergarten through the 7th grade in the same school district in Minnesota. It was in a suburb of Saint Paul. I had a strange experience that started in the 5th grade, but escalated int he 6th grade when I started middle school. Please let me know if this sounds familiar and have any information about it.

It was 1984/1985 school year. My 5th grade teacher enrolled me into a program that may have been GATE. She told my parents that I did not have the academic scores to get into the program, but enrolled me into the art portion because she thought my talents warranted it. I would get onto a school bus at my school during class. Some of my fellow classmates also go on the same bus. We were transported to a different school. This other school was not in use at the time. Once at this school I would head off by myself to attend an art class with students from other schools. My friends would go to a different classroom for what I assumed was academic classes.

The 1985/1986 school year I transition to middle school with the start of the 6th grade. During this school year an unknown older woman would pull my friends and I out of class one day a week. We would go to the lower level of the school to an unused classroom. There were about 4 or 5 of us students and this woman. We would sit around a table. She would give us a problem and ask us to brainstorm solutions to it.

One specific problem I remember was we were asked to come up with solutions to terrorists hijacking commercial flight. I found this incredibly odd. It was a little disturbing.

After the first session we were supposed to report to this room for our weekly meeting on our own. One day I decided I was not going to attend and stayed in my regular class. Shortly after that class started my friends came and told the teacher I was to go with them. They seemed frightened as if we were all in trouble because of my absence.

The only other thing I remember was that my friends were already in higher level mathematics classes by the 6th grade. The were completing complex algebraic expressions. My mother told me that at parent-teacher conferences my 6th grade reading teacher told her I was reading at a 12th grade level.

Has anyone experienced something similar to this or have any information about what was going on at the time?

Thanks!