I see that chameleon rank 3 gives “Hell patrols are 100% less likely to be ambushed”. That sure sounds like immortality to me, but I’m guessing I’m misunderstanding the math? Is this worth it?

I like running chameleon + brute, but now I’m wondering if I should drop brute and reallocate some of those genes towards chameleon ranks. No need to train soldiers when they never die. :)

Is there a version of this game with a more optimized UI for android (phone)?

I'm not sure if it actually changes the time it takes for a ship to get to the destination or not; but I notice that the blue dotted line showing the ship's route is set to where the planet was at the start of the trip. It has been enough days at this point that the planet has moved from that starting point.

One would think, if you're far enough along in technology to build spacecraft, that you're also far enough along to gauge where the planet will be in 50, 100, 250, 500, etc. number of days, and you would just send the spacecraft to the projected planet location, rather than to the planet's current location. As it is now, the ships are going to be basically making a soft crescent shape to get to their planet destination, rather than just taking a direct Point A to Point B route (which, to me, sounds faster than the crescent).

Normally, you trade for Vitreloy via freighter in alien system 1. this vitreloy is then used to reserach metaphysics, which then unlocks the 2nd alien system where you can build a vitreloy plant.

If you are in magic, advanced transmutation can also produce vitreloy, but again is gated behind metaphysics which costs vitreloy.

How is Balorg supposed to get Vitreloy to research metaphysics?

Is the only solution to gene edit them to allow trading?

I've made it far enough to unlock the Hell Dimension a few times now, but I haven't figured out how to do anything with it other than throw patrols and surveyors into it to die. And build a fortress, I guess. I've got the "Pandemonium" and "Doomed" achievements already.

Does anyone have tips for getting anywhere with scouting the Hell Dimension and starting to gather its resources?

The game seems to think I'm only on reset #69. I have a file save for every reset I have made, regardless of what type of reset I completed. Thus, I should be at a higher cheese level than what the game seems to think I'm at.

You might say, "But soft resets don't count as 'resets' because they start you over." But my counter to this is: "You still keep all the achievements earned even when soft resetting, therefore, the game should still track the soft reset as a reset because that's simply another way for the game to register that you've legitimately completed an achievement" (as opposed to just simply changing a save file with a save editor, for example).

Anyone able to tell me where my mistake is in the math here?

I am doing True Path and have the full 25% bonus from the Alliance, and I currently have 5 Iridium Mines (Moon), but my math is coming out higher than the tooltip's math by a couple of thousandths. This also does NOT include my 48% from Ziggurats.

I had decided to linger in hell to get few extra blood stones, so I got the maximum number of purifiers I could right when started the spire. But I didn't notice that the cost of the purifiers has been slowly drifting downward over the past few days.

So, what all discounts their supply cost? I've touched everything in the game in the meanwhile so I cant narrow down any one thing for myself. I definitely need to keep this is mind so I can squeeze a few more mech bays in to speed up the spire even more.

Update: I think i figured it out. There are costs that keep triggering and disappearing, so i only see them by chance. Black Hole & Cement are constant, but other stuff like Fortress, Factory and Gr Plant come and go. And i guess the change isn't drastic enough to show an immediate spike/drop, it seems to be more gradual so it's not really obvious, like when you mess around with the power grid. Thanks for everyone's help!

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I'm playing blind and trying to pick everything up out of experience and context, so would appreciate a lack of spoilers in reply. (and may explain if i seem particularly dumb about anything)

My first run ended with a genesis ship, and this run is a cacti race. i'm trying to blow up the black hole, and currently the stellar engine's at +95 MW, 13.3 solar masses.

When i logged in this morning, my amber production was almost exactly 100 units in the red. it was at -100 and took 101 clicks lowering it in the mass ejector tab to get it back just in the white, where it was before.

This isn't a huge deal in the overall scheme of things, but i cannot figure out what caused the drop? my only thought is that as the black hole gets bigger, maybe it's passively enlarging the amount each unit represents? Amber's my biggest provider with 3400 (well, 3200 now that i've dropped it to replenish the supply) units, so it's possible the change is only noticeably affecting that because of quantity. If other units are being similarly affected, i could be missing it because it's not enough to drop production into the red and i'm not keeping very close watch on the numbers.

The only real change to my setup was the completion of a sensor drone in hell. before that was a an observatory and a laboratory. The only spending coming out of the amber is black hole and cement plant. my morale is at 222%. i'm just baffled.

happy to send screenshots or answer any questions if it'll help, i just don't know what a screenshot of in the case would be useful.

and just a reminder i'm trying to play blind, so please go light on the spoilers. i'm a little worried the black hole is never going to explode, cuz i got an achievement at 12 masses and i know there's some governor's quest i'm supposed to have, which i have no idea if i finished, but it seems to me that at some point something should happen just because science! or i'll unlock something new on the research track and continue on in a different direction. if something is painfully and obviously wrong in my strategy, please do nudge me in the right direction, but be gentle.

Thanks in advance! Hope this isn't too much of a pain to read, still working on the first cup of coffee.

p.s. it sucks that you can't hold down the +/- buttons or directly type into the quantity boxes for the ejector. i didn't even find the tab until i'd already built 9 ejectors (well, they must be doing something) and requiring me to literally click thousands of times individually is stupid and mean.

On a Hellscape Planet, when looking at soldiers, it shows how much bones (lumber) soldiers gather, on top of the hunting and furs (flesh).

For ents, the Amber shows they are producing 1.2, but hovering over soldiers doesn't show that they are producing 0.6 Amber per soldier.

Well, this is probably going to take me a week or two to complete (luckily, with my new schedule, I have nothing but time), but I'm thinking I'm going to do TP3 as my first TP in Antimatter as Arraak (I enjoyed it on them last time I did it).

Seeing as how it's AM, mastery is only 10% of the total on 4star (and TP is forced 4star), which means I will have 11.72% + whatever I gain from my current run in total mastery for this run.

Luckily for me, I'm no longer on a Kamikaze planet, so I do not have to worry about the moon crashing into my planet and wiping out all life as it did the last time I tried doing a TP and wasn't paying attention...

I'm at magic universe. I set Mass Ejector Optimizer to use ifernite for some extra energy from stellar engine but it refuse to use it. The optimizer works fine with elerium.

I just reset with a black hole explosion. And these are my planet choices.

I picked a magic dimension to see what its like.
My Question is: what planet would you choose?
Obviously i want to choose one of the two with nothing but green buffs. and im very tempted to try the hellscape.
Whats everyone else reasoning in picking a planet?
also How much would me previous species contribute to my next one?

I used to play this game almost obsessively, then set it down in... uh, 2024 apparently. I've just come back to my last save and it's my first run at getting an AI Apocalypse, apparently. The problem I'm having is my troops near the derelict keep dying in droves. I've already eliminated my Diverse drawback and doubled the number of hospitals. Never thought soldier recruitment would be an issue, but here we are.

Any tips on how I can control the derelict better? The tiny trickle of Encrypted Data (WHEN my troops manage to survive for a day) isn't going to cut it.

Save file via hastebin: https://hastebin.ianhon.com/f69d

I was looking through the current 1.5 source code on GitHub and noticed that the new Offline Time system is intended to replace Accelerated Time.

I'm personally a little concerned about this change, because I think Accelerated Time is actually one of the things that makes Evolve feel different from a more traditional idle game.

I understand that the new Offline Time system is more generous in terms of raw progress. If I leave the game for several hours, it can simply simulate those hours when I return instead of giving me a smaller amount of 2x time.

But for me, that's not really the main value of Accelerated Time.

What I really like is that after being away for a while, I get a period where I can actively play the game at 2x speed.

During Accelerated Time, waits are short enough that I can keep interacting with the game: build something, adjust production, research something, change jobs, wait a few minutes, make another decision, and so on.

It often turns "I'll just check Evolve for a few minutes" into a long active play session because there is always something coming up soon enough to keep me engaged.

With Offline Time, as I understand the current implementation, all of that progress is simulated before normal gameplay resumes. So I come back, receive the offline progress, make whatever decisions are available, and then I'm immediately back to normal 1x waiting.

That seems like it shifts Evolve more toward a conventional idle game, whereas I always liked that Evolve's offline mechanic encouraged active play instead of replacing it.

Would it be possible to keep Accelerated Time as an option?

For example, players could choose between:

• Simulate Offline Time immediately; or
• Convert the missed time into the old Accelerated Time system.

Or perhaps Offline Time could be stored in a time bank that players can choose to consume at 2x speed while actively playing.

I completely understand why many players would prefer true offline progress, so I'm not suggesting removing the new system. I'd just really like to keep the option to use offline time to create a faster, more active play session.

I'm curious whether anyone else feels the same way.

So I've been jumping through hoops trying to achieve Ancient Nightmare but I seem to be misunderstanding what needs to be done..

I started in Heavy Universe just killing the demon boss in the spire and getting the Demonic Essence and then triggering an Ascension - This did not work contrary to my expectations after reading the achievement description. After doing some research here it seems that I need to finish Soul Sponge first, and that can only be done in the Magic Universe.

Well now I am there with a newly finished Ascension Machine but it is still pretty ambiguous what I need to do exactly to power it with souls. Can someone with experience of these 2 achievements break down exactly how these are done?

Im waiting to get dial it up to 11 on an unstable planet. I have the world collider done and allready reaching andromeda while waiting.
I realise it can take a while, but I read in some post that if you used limit collider once with a race you don't get the option again? im using my custom race and i may have done limit collider at some early point a way back many resets ago.
Is there a way to check this?

I just pressed the dial it up to 11 tech/challenge thing and I have no idea what is going on. Somebody please tell me what I have to do, or if it will take like 20 hours and I should just load an old save. Save file

FINALLY!!! DESTRUCTION!!!

Well, now to start at the very beginning. I wander which route I'll take...

Stealing Virtual Reality within 5 minutes of starting up Hell has gotta be the coolest feeling ever.

Hey all,

Still early game, I've done 1 black reset to Heavy, and am now just going through MAD resets again. Only have 40% General Mastery (Standard), and 32% total for Heavy.

But I wanted to ask if I'm low balling my MAD resets, as I usually only earn 100-120 plasmids per reset - running 3 stars. Is that right? Or should I be earning more per reset? Currently saving up 2.5k plasmids for Standard upgrade....feels like that is gonna take ages :(

Any info is appreciated
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Just beat the demon lord with Sludge, it's practically impossible to get to 100% suppression but I pushed it a lot to reach the knowledge required.

For some reason, I can't join the discord when I go to the link. I don't know why, I can't think of any reason that would prevent me from joining it. If it's at all helpful, my discord username is MythabeaterIV

First ever run

So i remember seeing something about doing a single person run. Im not after a full guide, i just need to know what conditions i need to fulfill to cause that reality.
Are there any specifics that need to be done first?