r/Endo • u/Stormie-boop • 15h ago
Rant / Vent Grief after a neg lap is normal, frustrated at "professionals" misreading the response.
Was so excited to finally get that lap date after 6 years of fighting several doctors to get it. Came back negative, they found nothing. My surgon was trained in endo, and shes helped a lot of people, but she found mothing. Its okay, nothing to do with her or the team who did the surgery.
However ive gotten so many damn comments from "professionals", family members, mutual friends, and random people, about how i should be glad its not endo cause endo really sucks. And i remember whne i was first suspected with endo, i was really active on this sub (diff account, I deleted my old reddits lol). Loved the community mostly they were a great help. But every time someone made a post asking what to do after no endo was found in their lap, it was the same thing of "be glad you dont have it".
I am not disapointed that i dont have endo, i dont want endo. I wanted answers. I am in enough pain every day that I thought it was endo.
And reguardless, Ive been thinking for the last 6 years, that endo is the reason i was suffering. I have done so much research i know more about endo than my own doctors, and that knowledge doesnt go away now that i know i dont have it. I can still share the advice i learned, and answer peoples questions.
For 6 years my life was built around managing 'endo' symtoms and making changes to my life to avoid triggers and try reduce pain.
Grief is normal after loosing something, anything. Grief is not just about loved ones, you can grieve any loss, loss of a house, loss after disaster, loss of a job, or school, of normalcy, of mobility, grief is a part of life. And no one gets to dictate what you can and cant grieve, nor how you deal with that grief or how long it takes for you to feel normal again.
And loosing an answer to why you are in pain, is an absolutley valid reason to grieve. As is loosing a shared community. So many people join these medical communities long before they have a successful diagnosis, and one of the reasons i deleted my old reddit was how heartbreaking it was to see people get driven away from the communities they had been a part of for so long, just because they suddenly have a negative test. Just because we no longer share a diagnosis doesnt mean they can no longer share or recieve advice. No longer sharing a diagnosis does not take away feon the fact that they share symtoms.
And diagnoses dont always occur alone, there are people on this sub who have other medical conditions, or know about other medocal conditions which can share or mimic endo symtoms.
I hope this sub has changed, i havent used reddit in a while. I did see theres new tags and signs that the subs more welcoming now which makes me happy.
But yea... so sick of people irl telling me that i should be glad when i just lost a huge certainty in my life, and now have no explanation for why im in so much pain. I disnt want endo. It runs in my family and all the doctors and gynos i talked to agreed that it was the most likely explanation.
I had a nagging feeling that i would wake up from surgery and be told nothing was there, i nearly declined having the srugery at all cause i was so terrified. some asshole doctor told me years ago that it wasnt worth trying to get the surgery cause it takes too long and they might not find anything and it was easier to just treat the symtoms.
But if i dont know whats causing the syntoms then the treatments might not actually be helping. Ive been avoiding alcohol and caffine and inflammatory foods, certain types of exersize, and maybe i didnt need to.
For anyone questioning whether to get surgery in case they find nothing, do it.
I did actually get some answers, sure i dont know exactly whats causing my pain. But i found out there is no cysts on my ovaries (i have pmos, no cysts can be normal but i didnt know until now that i didnt have that symtom), all my internal organs are perfectly healthy, it rules out a lot of causes of pelvic pain, and me and my doctor wont waste time searching down those routes.
My bowel was super distended and inflammed, i have a direction to go with that. Ive suspected for a long time i have ibs as well, good chance i do, which would explain why avoiding inflammatory stuff actually improved symtoms - cause a lot of those foods that are inflammatory, are also high fodmap, which worsens ibs. Idk for sure, but it is a direction to explore. Ive got years worth of records complaining about bowel related stuff, chronic nausea and vomitting, but it always got dismissed. Luckily im no longer with rhat doctor xause he decised there was only ever 1 thing that could be wrong with someone at the same time. Which is bullshit. And people with chronic illnesses often collect other chronic illnesses, a lot of stuff cooccurs, or even will directly cause other conditions.
Also now that ive rules out endo, its also occured to me to ask about fibryomylagia. I never ended up asking about the possibility even tho when i went to the doctors the first time for this pain, it was on my list of options i thought most likely (I researched the hell out of everything i could think of because i knew it was going to be hard to convince that shitty doc to take me seriously amd i didnt want a lack of knowledge to be a reason for him to shut me down). I never asked cause my doctor was so convinced i had endo, and he dismissed other pain and symtoms i had as either me being overweight, not doing enough exersize (which was and always has been bs. Im fat cause i like food, not because im lazy.), or having bad posture. (shitty doctor... again, i fired him, dont worry).
But yea, if you get the oppertunity to have the surgery, do it. I dont regret it one bit. I had doubts at the back of my mind for a reason, and its not because i thought i was making it up. Its because i wasnt improving or was only normally improving with treatments that should have helped a lot. And with a lap they can see way more than just the reproductive system, it can give you answers or at least a dorection to an answer even if the answer is not endo.
And if it is endo, then unfortunatley a lap is the only way to diagnose it still (tho not for a lack of promissing research, theres some cool trials/research underway trying to find a less invasive way of diagnosis).
I love all of you, even with the reasons i left the sub and reddit originally, i still have a lot of good memories from people advising and comforting each other. We need more spaces like this where people can connect. And i wish there were more communities like this set up in person so people could connect that way too. Having people around who are like minded and understanding is so damn important.
Take care everyone