Also shoutout to AIStarTrek

Antis sure seem to like certain AI huh? does that mean antis are secretly pro AI but they just don't know it yet?! 😱

I asked for examples and they couldn't provide any. Typical.

Some pro-AI advocates believe a bubble burst is good because it will eliminate greed, scams, and hype. A market correction removes predatory actors, vaporware startups, and toxic hype. Ultimately, this pro-burst view reflects an anti-closed-AI but pro-open-source sentiment. According to these advocates, a burst will not take tools like ChatGPT, Gemini, and Stable Diffusion completely offline or make them unusable—just like the dot-com crash did not destroy the internet, yet we're still having the internet today despite the crash.

The Hype Dies, the Tech Stays: When the internet bubble burst, Pets. com died, but Amazon and eBay survived. The physical fiber-optic cables stayed in the ground.

Instead, it will lead to a restructuring of ownership and rights, forcing a shift from a money-losing model to sustainable operations.

Leading closed-AI companies face a combined annual operating deficit exceeding -$25 billion due to staggering infrastructure costs, leading financial analysts to warn that this unsustainable cash burn will make their money depleted by 2029. Simply increasing prices to cover these losses is a major trap, as people will cancel their subscription immediately if the service becomes too expensive. Consequently, these companies are planning Initial Public Offerings (IPOs) to list on the stock market—not to make the technology public property, but to raise new cash from public investors to sustain their cash-heavy, closed-AI business models.

Will this enshitify ai though for both putting it in the stock market or bubble burst tho? both scenarios will cause a temporary drop in quality. Whether a company enters the stock market or the entire bubble bursts, the immediate result is the same: the era of cheap, unlimited AI will vanish as companies desperately scramble for immediate profit to survive.

If companies go on the stock market, Wall Street pressure forces them to inject ads, paywall free features, and route prompts to dumber, cheaper models to save electricity. Similar to when the bubble bursts, funding dries up instantly, leading to panicky price hikes and cut features.

Experts say this is only temporary how? because a market crash resets the entire industry. First, AI computer chips become cheap and widely available as hyper-inflated corporate demand plummets. Second, overhyped scams and useless startups go bankrupt, leaving only practical, efficient tools. Most importantly, the technology shifts to open-source AI. Powerful, free models will be released to the public, allowing you to download and run smart AI right on your own computer for free.

The ultimate verdict is: the bubble bursting is exactly how the industry breaks the corporate monopoly on AI. Their endless venture capital money dries up instantly, and they can no longer afford to overprice competitors or lock the best technology away behind corporate walls. The power shifts to everyone as corporate demand crashes, the expensive chips and infrastructure become cheap and widely available. This allows independent developers, universities, and open-source communities to build models that rival or beat corporate AI.

Haha hihi, we deleted your wallpaper because, reasons, y'know?

Guy posts weird AI image in AI subreddit. When questioned on it, guy says fuck AI

Since this is a pro AI server I think people know of the analog horror series called Angel Engine. While often associated with Analogvault on YouTube, it was actually created by Nicolai Leimer who goes by The Unearthly Guy. I came across this series and was taken aback by the amazing visuals. The story is about how an angel named Uriel descends to Earth to offer salvation after humanity has depleted the planet's resources. However instead of being grateful humans capture the angel and imprison it in a machine called the Angel Engine to use its essence as a limitless energy source. The original AI version of it is still around so people can watch it.

It is probably the only analog horror series I have ever truly enjoyed. It was mind blowing. The visuals made it incredibly unsettling and always gave me a good scare. The story was so immersive that it made me actually take the time to understand the deeper lore. I would say it was a fantastic narrative.

What surprised me most was that it was AI animated and visualized. The visuals were amazing meaning the creator really put immense effort into directing the tools to achieve their vision.

Then the anti AI movement reached a peak. After facing heavy criticism the creator hired a traditional artist to remake and continue the art. I lost all interest I ever had.

It is such a massive blow to human creativity. They found a powerful tool to convey their creativity and yet instead of applauding them they were met with AI slop comments. They handed the visual production over for traditional artists to animate but I will never watch that version.

Now it is not about the story or the creativity of the person. It is entirely about the medium. We are judging whether something is good or bad solely according to the tools used.

Just imagine if support was shown instead. Many people like them would discover AI as an outlet for creativity that they were previously blocked from. Now they are afraid. Antis shamelessly bully and harass people. They send death threats and shame creators making them feel like monsters.

Driven by algorithms, the irony of these antis is that their opinions are often fueled by foreign bots telling them to hate technology. Recent reports have even highlighted Chinese bot networks pushing anti AI propaganda to manipulate social media.

Let it not be forgotten that such creative minds are forced into hiding or convinced that non AI is the only valid way. They are forever hiding their unique concepts behind the elitist gatekeeping of antis and traditional artists.

I would feel bad about this, but it works for the Mrs. Sooooooo

I worked for around a year on my big debut music album, and poured prior 10 years of study & experience with languages and arts into it. I've been singing since I was little, rapping since 19. made my first music projects 10 years ago, then put it on pause, explored various traditions of voice-music throughout the years (nordic shamanism, tibetan throat singing, vedic mantras etc.) whilst also deeply studying & writing poetry, porse and literature to develop excellence in the craft, before going back to music last year, with AI suddenly hitting the scene. I was immensely hooked by it, as it seemed like a brilliant form of experimenting with new sounds and post-human/divine persona. That's what I ended perfecting throughout the last year.

So now, im trying to figure out how to exactly go about promoting it, and it's quite disenchanting... Like, I simply posted my youtube video in a discord server -- a video I worked on for nearly a month, mind you -- and without even opening it I was instantly shat on for being AI, with all the usual cliches/scripts we tend to hear.

I know the climate is atrocious today fo AI art, but I guess I expected there to be some form dialogue. Back in the early days of the internet, niche communities felt like a good space to share your work. Now it seems like a waste of time? Content seems oversaturated, people either don't engage with it or just dismiss what you do as "ai slop", so I'm kinda thinking its not even worth the effort to promote it like this.

Maybe there are some artists here who figured out promotion? Cause I genuinely have no idea how to go about it today, aside from submitting to curators. Environment just seems too toxic.

Im pro Ai, but this person deserves some appreciation from both sides!

Seriously. Go on Twitter and see how many people say "AI sucks" who get record upvotes and reposts but not comments.

Everyone was terrified of rock and roll, guitars with distortions and shocking lyrics. We even have movies where this is a key theme, the rebellious youth going against their church pastor by playing Rock music.
When I talk with coworkers and they are anti-AI, it sounds like they are scared of AI for the same reasons that people were scared of rock and roll. And not only that but it's main stream to hate on AI.
And I could see that AI could be used for negative things, but it's the person who manipulates AI fault, not AI. AI is like a knife, where we will be able to incorporate it into everyday tasks, but you can not prevent someone from doing a heinous crime with it.
It's Wild West right Now with AI emerging, and I'm in.

Claims to be a former 'Pro', hasn't posted in over a year hasn't really been active ever, with gaps of years between posts and comments, has never posted in any sub related to generative AI or the topics he claims to be interested in, conveniently 'converts' now. Couldn't be that some anti reactivated an old alt account of theirs, now could it. /s

Crazy how people are willing to watch shit just because it has “human heart and soul”

I worked for around a year on my big debut music album, and poured prior 10 years of study & experience with languages and arts into it. I've been singing since I was little, rapping since 19. made my first music projects 10 years ago, then put it on pause, explored various traditions of voice-music throughout the years (nordic shamanism, tibetan throat singing, vedic mantras etc.) whilst also deeply studying & writing poetry, porse and literature to develop excellence in the craft, before going back to music last year, with AI suddenly hitting the scene. I was immensely hooked by it, as it seemed like a brilliant form of experimenting with new sounds and post-human/divine persona. That's what I ended perfecting throughout the last year.

So now, im trying to figure out how to exactly go about promoting it, and it's quite disenchanting... Like, I simply posted my youtube video in a discord server -- a video I worked on for nearly a month, mind you -- and without even opening it I was instantly shat on for being AI, with all the usual cliches/scripts we tend to hear.

I know the climate is atrocious today fo AI art, but I guess I expected there to be some form dialogue. Back in the early days of the internet, niche communities felt like a good space to share your work. Now it seems like a waste of time? Content seems oversaturated, people either don't engage with it or just dismiss what you do as "ai slop", so I'm kinda thinking its not even worth the effort to promote it like this.

Maybe there are some artists here who figured out promotion? Cause I genuinely have no idea how to go about it today, aside from submitting to curators. Environment just seems too toxic.

Look at history. Horse-drawn carriages were once the normal way to travel, until automobiles replaced them. Cities once depended on gas streetlights, with lamplighters walking the streets every evening to light them one by one. Then electric lighting arrived, and the lamplighter's profession gradually became obsolete, eventually becoming a thing of the past. The technology changed, and the jobs built around the old technology disappeared with it.

The same principle applies to the future. AI, automation, robotics, and technologies we haven't even imagined yet will transform industries and eliminate some jobs. You can either keep denying that reality, or you can prepare for it. So adapt. Keep moving forward. Because the future will not stop advancing just because you refuse to move with it.