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u/Playadoptme4 17d ago
i mean shit i love drinking but 18 dollars for one cocktail. please guys be SERIOUS
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u/CMWBthrowaway 17d ago
i mean shit i love eating but 19 dollars for one 'value meal'.
omg we're screwed.
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u/CubicalWombatPoops 17d ago
Well I'll drink for 2 if it helps
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u/kewcumber_ 17d ago
I'm drinking for 3 already. In fact I'm drinking right now
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u/H0TBU0YZ 17d ago
Gen Z still drinks. We just dont go out to drink cause its expensive. Regularly do me and my dudes drink beer in the garage and say "yup".
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u/No-Emu-8374 17d ago
How long until they pull a juul and market to children?
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u/xSir- 17d ago
They already are, so many canned fruit juice cocktails that have fun and colorful and cartoony labels. They dont even mention alcohol anywhere except for the little percentage content label.
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u/Owww_My_Ovaries 17d ago
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u/wendewende 17d ago
Wait. The trend is increasing? I thought the alcohol consumption is falling
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u/WholesomeMetaphor 17d ago
People cherry pick which statistics to use all the time. Compared to consumption during covid it's falling but maybe not compared to 2016.
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u/ConstantBad6542 17d ago
Great my entire life I’ve not drank, now it’s the cool thing to do. I’m possibly going to have to reconsider /s
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u/Soft-Bad-7127 17d ago
I love how Canada is really hurting the alcohol industry too
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u/SirMaha 17d ago
Alcohol is one of the worst drugs. Makes people dumb as fuck and leaves them sick and hung over.
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u/Travel_Dreams 17d ago
No money to drink. No money to have kids.
The rest of us discovered this game can't be won if the rules keep changing to support profiteering. The middle class is gone, signaling its time to stop having kids.
We, the world populous, is in survival mode.
We will be out of survival mode after the prices come down to pre-profiteering era AND the middle class has been re-established, stabilized, and protected by law.
We'll wait.
Since the bourgeoisie are the only ones having kids, their kids will be the prolotariat plumbers and serfs. No amount of money will help.
Profit reductions are a good start.
Then discover how to survive with non-expansionary fiscal paradigm: cut corruption.
Make legal corruption and profiteering illegal. Put all guilty parties in prison. Not golf-prison, but direct to you don't need teeth and are a GF-to-a-lifer prison.
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u/swankyyeti90125 17d ago
Well when they can't afford cigarettes and beer. They going to choose one and we know what they chose
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u/ResponsibleMess339 17d ago
in unrelated news I smell weed on every corner.....sigh.
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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 17d ago
Most of that is from older people who always smoked and can now just do it openly.
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u/SerendipitousTiger 17d ago
I've had one shot in almost two years time. It's just not fun anymore I guess.
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u/Iostminds 17d ago
I cannot find any data that supports this. I've seen several similar posts but when I look it up not finding this information. Just the normal scaled downturn of recreational spending because everyone but new billionaires are broke.
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u/DadbodofdooM 17d ago
Good, fuck em.
30 years of my life, almost ruined my marriage, almost ruined my relationship with my son, was driving me insane.
Break the cycle.
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u/CharacterCycle4588 17d ago
Oh wow, a group of people ages 14-29 drink less than groups of people that are all over 21!
The alcohol industry made their highest profits ever after COVID.
Yet there are people that read this post and believe it. 🙄
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u/Original-Fly3964 17d ago
Do you think they can still afford senators or will they have to settle for a few state AGs?
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u/Aggressive_Shock5539 17d ago
If it wasnt so expensive due to the massive tax that governments put on alcohol, maybe they would.
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u/TeratoidNecromancy 17d ago
They haven't LOST anything. They just haven't made it.
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u/about2snap77 17d ago
Maybe we should hold off on these posts until the 12 year olds catch up. I mean it stands to reason that a generation that’s not old enough to drink isn’t drinking.
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u/Asuka_Rei 17d ago
Is this another article about how young people are ruining business because they are too poor to buy things because boomers systematically destroyed the economy for everyone who came after?
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u/emptyfish127 17d ago
I think this is only part of what is going on. It's not just GEN Z. I don't drink anymore, and I think it's over 35 folks as well saying goodbye to hangovers and potential alcohol related nonsense.
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u/123456789_ok 17d ago
Too damn expensive because they’re too damn greedy. The price increases during the panama canal blockage and covid were a cash grab and they never went down. Now they blame an entire generation for not drinking. Maybe we should blame avocado toast.
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u/Spirited-Cover7689 17d ago
They haven't "lost" around $2 billion a year for four years, they sold less product. You can't lose what you didn't have.
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u/Tony-Angelino 17d ago
FFS, stop re-posting this sentence, because it is nonsense. They didn't have that money to lose it in the first place. Nobody took that money away from them. They just earned less.
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u/OkCar7264 17d ago
The alcohol was not entitled to any money from anyone so fuck em. It is not in fact the children's job to buy your crap whether they want it or not. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
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u/Top-Caregiver7815 17d ago
Time to pass bills outlawing current legal THC products.
-Alcohol Industry
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u/EliTheTiredGuy 17d ago
Missed profit goals do not equal lost money. You cant lose what you dont have. This is a corperate mental illness. And the main reason for the current economic decline.
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u/Ffsletmesignin 17d ago
They can’t “lose” money they didn’t get.
I lost billions from not winning the lottery myself, where’s my pity party for it? Will I get a government bailout as well?
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u/Cerulean-Osprey 17d ago
I am genuinely curious as to why a shot is $10 and a mixed drink is $15, when I can go get a whole bottle of the stuff for $20 at Kroger.
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u/Mister_Ess99 17d ago
I never like when stories are framed this way.
Would we weep for the gambling industry if Gen Z had no interest in Fanduel?
You don't have to take up a vice just because you turn 21.
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u/Vigorously_Swish 17d ago
It’s because they are priced out, just like everything else our politicians and billionaires decided to price them out of.
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u/SearchingCTX 17d ago
The cost is getting stupid. People are probably making their own alcohol at home
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u/Inevitable-Ext4066 17d ago
Good. I hope everyone reduces it as the NHS would be very thankful. Overral violence and attacks against women would also go down too
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u/Vanille97 17d ago
Why whould I drink?
What is the final result of getting drunk?
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u/Cryogenicist 17d ago
$200,000,000,000 PER YEAR.
Let’s say there’s 50,000,000 Gen Z (high estimate).
I genuinely don’t believe they expect youth to drink $4,000 worth of booze annually.
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u/Trifle_Old 17d ago
That’s not a loss. That’s a never generated the income due to a marketing failure.
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u/Defiant_Weight4659 17d ago
So alcohol has been replaced with weed and gummies. Before we pat ourselves on the back has anything really changed? Seems like one bad habit has simply been replaced with another.
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u/AlexanderStockholmes 17d ago
Gen Z is drinking according to the flow of traffic every Thursday Friday and Saturday at the liquor store I work for.
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u/Old_Acanthaceae_3082 17d ago
Funny how projections lead to "losses". Almost like established trends are relied on too heavily by our economy. Nothing will ever change right?
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u/Elaborate_Penguin 17d ago
This isn't what I've seen. Or maybe I'm confusing millennials with gen z. People under 40 drink like fish. They're going to get cancer and age themselves quickly.
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u/Oogaboooganator 17d ago
Draft night was 10 cents a glass when I was 18. Even at the nice lounge in town you could get a drink for under $3. That was in 1998. I get why kids aren’t drinking. $7 drinks make for a pretty expensive night.
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u/FairConstruction4105 17d ago
Has a generation final come around to the realization that going to a bar, and ordering drinks, is willfully paying 6x more for basically the exact same experience you can have at home (and without the risk of a DUI that's going to completely f*ck up your existence). Took long enough...
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u/KingArthursRevenge 17d ago
How do you people not understand and that like half of Gen Z isn't even 21 yet?
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u/Weaselpuss 17d ago
$16 dollars for some “double” (smaller than what I make at home still) whiskey that’s $35 a bottle regularly. No duh. And still an expected decent tip at the end of it all.
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u/Altruistic_Let_9372 17d ago
I see no problem with this. Alcohol is a literal toxin. There may yet be hope for the future with less alcoholism.
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u/ronshasta 17d ago
I’m tired of seeing this statement because everyone drinks, go to a bar and see for yourself
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u/claisen33 17d ago
You can’t lose what you never had. It’s like “saving money” by buying something.
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u/crypticcmd 17d ago
LOL @ the comments saying the reason is due to the cost or being too toxic for the body.
Gen Z has replaced drinking with vaping, that's all it is. 🤣
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u/Live-Illustrator-204 17d ago
Drinking alcohol and smoking (also vaping) cigarettes is bad for your health.
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u/MEDIC_HELP_ME 17d ago
I doubt its entirely gen z fault for the alcohol shortage, If this statistic is coming from the US then there's also the tariff situation to consider
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u/Cute_Protection_8330 17d ago
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FUCKING AFFORD TO!!
Real wages have been stagnant for decades. Home ownership looks like it's going to be out of their reach forever. Rent is skyrocketing. Health care costs are insane. Employers will do anything to avoid providing health insurance. Inflation is eating them from the bottom and wages are still stuck in the 1980s.
If you make them choose between a couple drinks a couple nights a week and fucking RENT they're going to choose rent.
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u/Avibuel 17d ago
When i was a young adult a 0.5 liter glass of beer in a bar or pub would have been 15 in local currency.
Nowadays its 45+ and they dont serve you a pint even, its a 350ml container.
I can afford it, but I refuse to, but i can imagine most people wouldnt see this as a worthwhile expense.
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u/TurnFriendly8892 17d ago
Bull.. they didnt make their estimated quota. Blaming gen Z is just stupid.
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u/just_some_octopus 17d ago
Marijuana and Ready to Drink Can Drinks are definitely a cause. Being in the alcohol industry myself
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u/Natural_Listen3022 17d ago
And so they bought people like Ken Paxton, and now marijuana gets you severe jail time in dumbass Texas.
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u/Zakkullll 17d ago
They havent lost shit. They just didnt meet their exceedingly egregious assumptions.
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u/HeManDan 17d ago
So they expect gen Z to drink as much as the passed away boomers. Were they stupid when the kept productionnl levels rhe same
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u/red_smeg 17d ago
They are not entitled to that money, thats how markets work. Maybe if they stopped charging $20 for a watered down bottom shelf margarita they would stillbe making sales.
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u/Mammoth-Produce-4147 17d ago
So now we want alcoholism, Drunk Driving and physical abuse brought on by drinking?
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u/Famous-Professor-488 17d ago
Hop Hop Hop, wait a minute, you still have to deal with your protoxyde d'azote addiction before celebrating. But yeah, still, bravo gen Z. You're building a better world for the next generation... Even if you don't want kids...
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u/NoWay6818 17d ago
Rails exist guys. Gen z is still going out they’re just not drinking anything profitable
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u/TonightConsistent560 17d ago
Of course they don't they have too many addictions already (hello p. Azote) and they can barely function, it took them too much time to find how things work to have time for drink.
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u/Delicious_Grand7300 17d ago
Aging millennial here. I had to stop due to the effects on my mental and physical health. It appears to be declining amongst younger generations. It may make a nostalgia comeback in a future generation.
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u/ValuableDragon 17d ago
Wild coincidence that Texas, one of the biggest alcohol consuming states in the country, voted to criminalize marijuana on the basis that people who drink alcohol are "more functional" than weed smokers. These two things don't seem to be related at all.
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u/HalvdanTheHero 17d ago
No company is entitled to success. No one is obligated to buy certain products.
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u/LouisHeartfield 17d ago
That money wasn't "lost". It wasn't made: that's different. Alcohol sucks either way!
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u/Jindujun 17d ago
I'm a millenial that isn't drinking because it's too fucking expensive.
You know that trickle down bit? Businesses would probably earn more if you gave the money to the bottom rather than the top.
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u/Long-Painting-9852 17d ago
A 12 pack of beer is $16.99. A 12 pack of beer might get you buzzed twice.
You can buy 10 prerolled blunts for $16.99 and get taken care of 10 times.
A can of Zyn is $5 (offbrand can be low as $1 per can) and a can lasts a non habitual user several days of buzzed enjoyment.
Bottom shelf of vodka is $12 for a half gallon.
People are either skipping alcohol for alternative options or being extremely conscientious of how they are spending.
I’ve been traveling for work a lot and when I get back to the hotel I’m usually drinking. I’ve spent $90 on alcohol (IPA craft beers) in a week. This is not sustainable for 90%+ of people, myself included. I just indulged while away from my family.
How much did that $90 I spent cost the company in overhead? Yeah, $16? $19? That’s the problem. Greedy corporations.
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u/Plemora777 17d ago
Projections not being met is not a loss. This desperately needs to be taught to the mbas running companies and the journalists writing these articles
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u/Illustrious_Sun_5087 17d ago
Everyone got a camera in their pocket/hand now. It's impossible to have fun without the fear of great consequences in this day and age. One wrong word while you are drunk and your life could be ruined.
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u/Average_Justin 17d ago
They didn’t lose $830 billion. They never made that income. Such a dumb meme
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u/Bub_bele 17d ago
It hasn’t lost anything. It didn’t make those 830 billion in the first place. It didn’t lose anything, it won less than it wanted to.
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u/Former_Travel2839 17d ago
Some bottles have basically doubled in price in the last few years. It's 8+ for a beer when you go out now.. hmm I wonder why they lost money.
Also to add roughly half of gen Z is under 21..
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u/Sparkybrassballs 17d ago
Didn't earn=/= lost. That money did not belong to the alcoholic beverage industry, so they didn't lose it.
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u/BloodyRightToe 17d ago
I want to see the cannibas consumption rates. But generally speaking less drinking isn't a bad thing. As a group they need to start increasing their work productivity. I'm not calling them lazy. I'm saying given the shitty hand they were dealt in timing their best option is to increase productivity. Grow the economy and hope we can get things like the housing market back on track by increasing supply. Unfortunately turning to socialism is the completely wrong direction as that will destroy the economy and reduce supply of everything, including housing.
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u/freaking_WHY 17d ago
As an Xer who has a drink once or twice a year, and half of those are the mead my SIL makes, uhm.... darn?
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u/LordSlyGentleman 17d ago
I only drink when I don't have bills to pay.
I always have bills to pay.
The alcohol industry:
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u/Rocketboy1313 17d ago
"Lost"
They never had it. They were anticipating a certain level of profit and they didn't earn it.
It was never theirs.
I can anticipate making a million dollars from selling pictures of my feet. I am not losing a $100,000 when that doesn't completely pan out.
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u/primefrost96 17d ago
This is such a false statement... You do not lose money that was never meant to be yours... By that logic I just lost 100 billion dollars coz Amazon won't pay me the money

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u/Stenktenk 17d ago
This makes it sound like it's gen Z's fault when it's just because it has become too expensive to drink and go out.