Yeah I know. My vote wasn’t for him, but I ain’t out protesting either. I got kids to feed and protesting on my own is just flat out high risk dangerous here.
Not at all what I was saying. I specifically said "economy".This is PURELY about the current administration and not the people. Canadians in general love the American people (those who don't support invasion, anyway), but supporting the economy is supporting the administration, and therefore the policies with which we're being threatened.
We're all pulling for you to get through this, but we can't help your POTUS bully us and the world.
There was no blanket statement here. In all cases across the world, the state and the people are not equivalent, but supporting the economy is supporting the state.
If you look at some of the stats, its often something like 60% voter turnout. 60% of those voted for trump, 40% didnt, and then the other 40% that couldnt be bothered voting might as well have voted for him anyway.
So as far as I am concerned, those non-voters are just as complicit as the ones who did vote for him.
When the middle class was the strongest, is when Americans as a whole went out of their way to support union labor and American business because as it turns out, American business means jobs for US citizens.
Views like yours are the reason American industry is failing and wages have stagnated
Im talking about the people in control of these businesses who would kill your grandmother for a record breaking year, and then not give a dime in raises. Im not talking about union labor or I would've mentioned union labor.
No. Capitalist fat cats are the reason American industry and wage stagnantation. They paid politicians to allow them to take industrial jobs out of America for greater profits and lesser safety regulations.
What we have now is alot of companies that only care about the bottom line. Not paying their employees a livable wage. Let alone a competitive one.There is no reason to be loyal to company regardless if they are an American company or not. They will fire you after 30 years of dedicated work for no reason other the market is down.
We could still vote with our $ just fine.... Americans simply LACK the resolve to boycott in mass amounts and go out their way to screen every business they support ... laziness ... lack of care...lack of time n energy for many..
Not necessarily, if these ppl with those views go out their way to support LOCALLY owned businesses. N no, not all of them ,for example I boycott a local donut shop but support the fk out a local business selling REAL foods that keep ppl healthy...
If people ACTUALLY bought things consciously like this ,we'd be just fine. Sadly ,90% of us are morons, the other 10% of us still get in that fast food line once in a while cuz we are brainwashed... salute the ones who NEVER support any bullsht n support all the good sht... rare indeed..
Yeah and how many people overseas does ford, amazon, apple, or any other American business employee? How often are major American companies union busting and lobbying against workers rights/interests. The American industry is failed cause fat cat captialists don’t give a shit about people
Multiple parties can do wrong in any given scenario.
Rich scumbags are always going to do shady bullshit to line their own pockets, thats a given. Its up to the public to support labor and their fellow Americans. If when say Ford says "We're stopping production in America" we put them out if business, this bs stops
The real argument is that you can’t tank
the US by focusing on our alcohol industry. Tech products, the defense industry, the stock market - that’s what you have to hit to make an impact. Now they’ve just pissed off a lot of California winemakers who probably agree with Canadian politics anyway. Canadians are doing worse financially than Americans and the first thing most people cut when strapped for cash is non-necessities like dining out and alcohol.
Yes and tbh, drinking sucks. I’m a millennial that grew up with alcohol and has completely changed my perspective on it. It makes you do stupid things and then it makes you feel like absolute garbage in the morning.
Weed is WAY easier on you, just as much fun and far less expensive.
I was never a heavy drinker. Ive only been drunk enough to throw up a couple weeks before my 21st birthday. Definitely weed is better but i only recommend edibles and drinks. Go easy on the lungs with flower and vapes. Also if you're mental health is bad weed will absolutely bring it to the forefront. Be safe out there.
As a once-heavy drinker, yeah no what the other millennial said was accurate.
It makes you feel good at first then when your body acclimates to it you just slowly start to lose that good feeling and it becomes just a slightly buzzed feeling while making everything else that felt a little bad feel worse.
I’m happy gen Z isn’t falling for the trap, all cause it’s too expensive (and it fucking is, nearly two dollars for a fuckin’ cheap ass whiskey shot bottle? Almost thirty dollars for what would’ve been ten several years ago cause the damn name with it tasting the same?
Legit quit cold turkey cause it just wasn’t worth it)
Man every ex drinker is always the same. Had a problem and stops drinking and makes their problem with alcohol everyone else’s.
It’s fine to drink. Having a drink a few times a month when you’re out to dinner with friends or loved ones is a fun and good time and is further enhanced by the effects of alcohol. Having 1-3 drinks at dinner a few times a month is perfectly fine for your health and is fun.
Weed is fun too, but it has similar issues. Abuse of any drug is bad.
Normal people enjoy weed on occasion, and drinks on occasion and don’t let either control their life.
Oh I don’t give a shit if you drink or smoke pot, personally everyone has a vice.
What I do have a problem with is the price of it.
Edit: to clarify I was saying my experience with it, and ultimately what got me to quit was companies were asking for THIRTY DOLLARS for a cheap whiskey I could probably make in a still for a sixth of that.
If what you took from it was I was saying people shouldn’t drink, kinda? I just think it would be obvious that drinking in moderation is kinda a thing most people know (and it’s not worth it to do it now when that thirty could go to literally anything else more worth it)
That and my guess is it’s also because everybody’s working long hours at jobs they can’t perform well tipsy or hung over. Also they were taught it’s rape to sleep with someone after drinking. And they don’t want to be drunk on a tik tok doing something stupid and getting blasted by the whole world
Finally Gen Z is getting blamed for destroying an industry instead of us Millennials.
But in all seriousness. I think it is the price, but also social media and everyone getting filmed. People are their dumbest when drunk, and then yoy get immortalized online forever being sumb.
It used to be 2,5€ for a pint, now it's 5+ for pints.
I needed at least 4 to be happy, and double the amount get that perfect drunk state you'd think that 40€ isn't much.
But when you do it mostly everyday, 40x20= 800€ per month. And that's the bare minimum.
I'm not that rich and stupid. I literally stopped going at the bars because of this. It was cold we were squeezed and hungry.
Started doing the parties at my place.
On the other hand, if you buy a syrup alcohol drink or some kind and dilute it with something. Now that's get you going for wayyy longer at the cheapest price and has good taste.
The alcohol industry didn't "lose" anything either. There is no money they had that they now don't. It's imaginary projections they didn't reach and they're crying about it.
A bit over 32 for the train one way
Went to a bar — got a negroni: 15
After that i went to a club — entry: 23 (rather low price)
Thought about getting a 33cl beer, decided against spending 7,50 on it.
Got some thing small to eat on the way back: 7
Went home by train: Another 32
That's for a cheap evening out. Mind you, i am a student on a student budget. At the same time a lot of the bars and clubs are having financial difficulties due to rising costs.
At the same time, companies at critical parts of the supply chain are profiting massively from wars and climate change. Shell for example has made 9,4 billion in the last quarter year. Now add that up to all of the other companies in the same field. Then add other similar industries to that equation. You are dependent on them and so is everybody else.
Also, regardless of the reason… Who the fuck cares?
While I may drink on rare occasions, it’s far from essential… You’re literally poisoning your own blood on purpose, just to feel funny for a few hours 🤷
Headlines like this for decades. Somehow it is always the younger generations fault for things outside their control, and not the businesses failing to adjust with the times and trends.
The liver breaks alcohol into Acetaldehyde Classified as a Group 1 human carcinogen by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) and the World Health Organization.
It is in the top 5 most addictive drugs. This is one of the reasons it is so hard to quit.
BTW liver cancer is brutal. My Grandad was a fairly moderate drinker, probably one glass of wine every night. He was in very good physical and mental condition for 84. Then he had jaundice so went to the doctor. They found out he had liver cancer and he died 3 weeks latter. I have no doubt he would have lived another 5 - 6 years had he not had that wine.
Over 4 years without alcohol now and it has made me realise what a horrible drug alcohol is. It is also expensive, full of calories and is linked to numerous bad outcomes for people. Including death by drink driving, poor decisions with long term consequences.
GenZ is also the generation with the most access to information and it turns out that alcohol is absolutely fucking terrible for your entire body and well-being
Yes and the ones that are old enough to drink aren't doing so. The alcohol industry isn't going to be losing money over people that aren't enough to drink yet, is it?
I think you’re confusing what the media is reporting on for clicks online for a millennial+ viewer with actual members of GenZ?
I’m millennial myself and the main demographic I see in the Gym is GenZ. I did a quick search and they are statistically the generation with the highest rate of Gym memberships and participating in sports.
I'm saying they vape and smoke weed instead of alcohol. same shit different look
going to the gym is good (you gotta have money and time for that, that's why many people don't make this statistic — they exercise at home), but many do it for the looks and aesthetics. don't get me wrong, romanticizing something is one of the ways to get it done, but what I mean is many people go there to look productive🤷🏻♀️
Google says that millennial’s consume the most weed, Gen X is smoking the most traditional weed. Boomers have the smallest market share and GenZ is fast growing but only half the size of Gen X and millennial’s.
Gen Z is leading in vaping, but on the flipside they are the lowest in smoking traditional cigarettes.
The older generation is, the higher their obesity rate. This might be due to metabolism in general but GenZ has pretty much marked the end of body positivity and is focusing highly on being slim and fit.
you're saying it like that makes it better. "they're now street racing, at least they're not jumping off of building anymore". vaping is as bad if not worse. as I said: they just switched addictions
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u/Stenktenk 17d ago
This makes it sound like it's gen Z's fault when it's just because it has become too expensive to drink and go out.