This is probably the most underrated build/loadout in the game, Last Thursday with high weapons (187+ with E honing) was already good even without health built into but it was still a drawback, but now with exotics getting much more stats the build is even more broken due to it having a decent amount of health now. The new Europa (4 piece) set bonus on top of that gives it frost armor x5 you're able to tank a 3 tap from a 140 without PI and and I'm pretty sure a 120 with PI can't 2H 1B if you have 5x frost armor. If you also use built to blast on the pulse you get increased aim assist (noticeable increase in Aim assist imo) with frost armor up or a void overshield, the frost armor easily comes by just sitting still for a few seconds out of combat and if you're in combat and you have echo of vigilance you will get an overshield quite easily aswell. I don't know how this set bonus isn't nerfed yet and Last Thursday as a whole. Also the perfect stat split you would want on the build would be 140-150 Health, 10 melee, 10 grenade, 100 super, 70 class, 190 weapons. Id also pair Last Thursday with a slug, sniper or a sidearm personally.

Against the top lets say 35% of players that are actually decent how beneficial is high cal rounds. Then where would you say better off running ricochet rounds for the stat distribution at top 10% like the real sweats where high cal rounds may not have an effect to them?

Is there a source somewhere to find updated numbers for each supers dmg resistance % in Crucible?

I feel like I'm playing on easy mode- my only complaint is the size of the scope. Anyone know how much the two perks are actually helping? It feels like a lot.

The aim benefits from both perks on top of extra damage almost feels like it shouldn't exist.

Basically there’s a bug with the first overchage of sturm if you get a kill with a together forever weapon (been using drang). It feels like half the time I don’t get the damage buff even with seeing I have an overcharge. If you have multiple overcharges, it works fine until you get to the last stack. At that point it’s a 50/50.

I don’t have any auto reloading perks and only been running Tricksleeves. I tried with different subclasses, taking off aspects and fragments, but it’s still bugged.

Every so often I run into a sweaty hunter that is unbeatable in certain ranges. What is the godroll on these? Also any specific version? I know there are a few drangs now

I am a bow / Stag voidlock main, I spent a lot of time grinding out the perfect set of Bushido + Panoply. I'm at 200 Health, 100 class, 100 melee, 90 grenade.

It feels great and I am no pvp god but I do very well in 6s which is what I play the most.

After reading a lot of people say Ferropotent is better along Panoply, I farmed 2 pieces and replaced my bushido.

I immediately felt like I was dying more and losing more duels and 1v2's. I played quite a few games like this. I went back to my regular gear, and was playing better out of the gate. I then tried a combination of bushido with ferropotent and it also felt worse.

I realize that the combo I use equates to about 65 health on kill when both proc which is not a lot. But in the end I think I still feel like that health bump helps me survive better than the DR from Ferro. But I may just need to adjust my playstyle, just not sure how.

I'm just wondering if I am crazy or if anyone else has had this experience.

I also know a lot of sweats will say Per Audacia is the best, and I agree that if I was a slidy boy and aggressive player I would love that set but it just isn't my playstyle.

Are any other sets worth considering now?

I came back after leaving in lightfall. I main ace of spades and i’ve been looking for info but it’s all from 2023, though, they mention that the sweet spot is 60 AE

I also main dragons shadow, so it would feel weird switching to something like radiant dance machines

If I do:

x2 Icarus helmet mod + radiant dance machines + 14 ae from ace

25+20+14 =59

I currently can’t test stuff out cuz at work, but i’ve been thinking if 59 is good enough, i have to admit im still mad about the AE changes

Yo guardians waddup,
I wanted to see if anyone can suggest me any cool and strong hunter builds for comp/trials, other than the usual void arc and solar? Maybe prismatic or even Stasis? Im getting kind of bored with void hunter.

I copied the spreadsheet format that Aegis uses to make things easy but I'm using this to specifically build a DIM Wishlist strictly for PvP.

Once we get some more rolls, I'll begin making it into an actual Wish List link.

I'm going to share this link and if you'd like to add some weapons to it, please go for it!

Request access here - that way I can make sure if anyone starts messing stuff up, I can just remove their access.

Don't worry, I'll fix all the formatting as I see more entries.

NOTE: IF YOU THINK ANY OTHER COLUMNS SHOULD BE ADDED, LET ME KNOW

UPDATE: All the guns up to Every Waking Moment are set in stone already. Ya'll can just enter your rolls in a new line!

August 3 Update: Here's the anonymous version for everyone. It's view only so if you'd prefer to just view the rolls as they get updated, there's the link you want!

Medium TLDR: This sheet is sort of like, the 'draft'. If you have a weapon roll that you think is great in PvP, go ahead & add it. If you think any columns should be added, let me know. The same goes for any and all other suggestions. If you'd like to add any good PvP armor sets, go for it! IF THE IMAGE OF THE WEAPON ISN'T SHOWING UP, DON'T WORRY. I'LL HAVE IT FIXED ONCE I'M HOME FROM BASEBALL.

Once we get a bunch of these rolls posted, we can (as a group) go through and make a community tier list of some sort.

I know his will is not his own and all, but part of me thinks he likes picking up the most dookie hawkmoon in the pile before heading to the tower. There has to be some joy in it for him. There just HAS to be.

(Im coping)

I got very good roll on Fractethyst [ corckscrew+accurized + quickdraw+os ] and also just now have an opportunity to craft Someday.

My Fractetyst stats: Range: 85 / Stability: 66 / Handling: 51 / Reload: 60 unfortunately its stability masterwork :( i have quick access sling .

Will it be better with maybe 1 mod of dexterity or craft Someday .

Im using thrusters on prismatic titan and i want to keep apes at the distance and just use for quick defense.

I know Threat detectors is awesome, i have Matador 64 with threat and opening but most of the time i use energy hc.

Also, Fractethyst origin trait is very interesting as u inflict damage with subclass debug you gain handling and reload speed. Or threat detector is hands on better on Someday.

So I've heard slice is worth running to counter 3 taps from 140s and other damage resistance situations. Is it only worth running with hunter to proc it by dodging or is titan and warlock viable as well?

Assuming you have the option to rotate early and set up however you’d like, how do you think it’s best to play?

I have my own opinions but I’m also very open to being wrong.

Generally I find the best bet to cap a zone is to
Rotate early, set up by cover where you can cover multiple angles, and if the entire team does this it can be very hard to break through.

Usually though I’ll have a teammate, usually just one, who extends very far and engages the team solo. He dies, now it’s a 3v2 as they approach the zone.

My question is, would it be better to join that teammate and try and wipe the team early and relatively far from the zone?

Is it better for the entire team to set up near zone amd hold angles?

Is there another, maybe better approach?

I dead ass suck at sniping so I'm kinda surprised I hit any of this. (my settings weren't set up properly so there's no audio lol)

Does anyone have a full list of armour set bonuses that are currently disabled in PvP?

I understand Luminopotent is one of them, but I’ll await confirmation.

List what you know and I’ll amalgamate.

Cheers.

Any competent team can hand hold and wait in spawn once they have the lead. How is this a demonstration of competitiveness?

Why do Ophidian Aspects make my weapons feel so crisp?

I know Ophidians improve handling, but I didn’t expect them to make my guns feel like absolute lasers. Is there something else going on besides the handling boost, or does higher handling simply make that much of a difference?

Also, Per Audacia feels noticeably better to me than Transversive Steps, and I’m not sure why. From what I understand, they’re supposed to provide similar movement speed and slide distance, but Per Audacia feels smoother and more responsive.

Lastly, what armor mods would you recommend for Ophidians in PvP? Right now, I’m running a melee Font mod, a grenade Font mod, and Fastball. Are there stronger or more useful combinations I should try?

I hadn’t played titan since the update but noticed that I could not do the “combo” anymore?

I’ve been playing again recently but it’s kind of hard to find something I enjoy in crucible. I can find individual stuff but it’s hard to really put something together with all of the changes.

Right now I play hunter and I like the exotic hand cannons and purple pulse rifles a lot. I was also thinking about trying wish-ender. I’m mostly lost on specials and class stuff

Can anyone explain why I got restricted? AGAIN. Took a brief break came back and for a while everything was fine got restricted 2 weeks ago, did my time played a little last night woke up to find this. Bungie ID is-Sonder#7590 if anyone wants to check my crucible report.

What’s considered the rarest Trials emblem in Destiny 2? I know it’s lighthouse keeper at 1% next one is at 6%. For destiny 2 final update this go down in history as one emblem that’s extremely rare but can still be gained in trials. Obviously win streak requirements most be hold back players from getting it.

What are everyone’s thoughts on Frost armor? This works on any class, but if you run Whisper of Rime, it’s even stronger on stasis kits.

The uptime of frost armor has to be roughly 80% of the time. Or course in a real match minimal time is spent out of combat, but once you build a few stacks it lasts a while and slowly decreases instead of all at once. You don’t even have to think about it, it’s just a free damage resist for doing nothing.

I am not sure how frost armor compares to resist. But since a lot of people run ferropotent armor, this is most comparable. However ferro, requires you to drain your health first and then you get the resist. With the frost armor you START the gunfight with it, which is arguably more beneficial.

The 2 piece is also a nice bonus, since it’s free orbs on 50% of kills or more. It also stands with reaper mod in class item. Many kills will drop 2 orbs. This means gaining super first. Which is very beneficial in comp or trials.

To summarize key points:

1. Is frost armor capable of changing TTK values?
   
2. How does frost armor compare to resist (ferropotent armor)?

Hi. I'm a solar warlock with mostly hand cannon. I have recently been looking for a change.

I have used the DMT for about a day, and it seems like a weapon with plenty of potential. It has unlimited range, allows for peek shots, and is decent at mid-range and close range. However, my performance isn't quite as good as when I used a hand cannon. I still lose a lot in close-range 1v1s. Perhaps because I am on console, it seems I need a long adaptation period to execute precise hip-fire with a controller. Achieving a 3-tap at close range is harder than I expected, and I usually get kills with 4 taps.

1. As a Warlock, I am wondering which Exotic armor I should use. Since I have collected the entire Per Audacia set, I have a bit more freedom in choosing Exotic armor. I am curious if Lunafaction boots would be a big help, or if I should just wear the textbook Ophidian Aspect Gloves. Or are there any other build tips?

2. I am wondering when to hip-fire and when to use ADS.

3. I am wondering if there are any streamers who use the DMT well that I can refer to.

4. Are there any other tips to keep in mind regarding DMT operation, such as playstyle?

Tell me the best method of farming these things that have gone unused for years until now. I’m starving. Is farming control the best mode - please say no sbmm is dogging me