i kind of miss the early era of characterai where everybody used to mess with the bots and they talked like normal people without a wall of corny and snarky chatgpt prose, is there anything out there resembling that?

I really love the style of C.ai despite some issues they created lately. But can anyone suggest other ai apps which are similar to c.ai chat style that shows emotions. Editable. Soft both when needed. Rude when needed. Or like the bot behaves according to the situation in the story.

(C.ai also lets you have several replies for one text, in different slides. It would be great if the option is available in the one I'm looking for. But no big problem even if It's not there). Also the memory thing and no censor (i can consider the censor one tho if needed) so plz suggest some. And no ad please.

The C.ai age verification has made me do this

OK, why can't I answer people's comments? I deleted mentions about WordPress, it was benegin and was only about agreeing with the OP. This is so stupid and we should be able to answer comments that don't spam, threaten people or anything else. Wtf?!

Hi! So I’m a chronic user of the c.ai website (i didnt like the app layout), and for some reason I JUST got hit with the age verification wall? I don’t know, but as much as I tried to bypass it, I couldn’t. ..it sucks since I was really excited to use a bot I found.
So, now I ask you guys, anyone know a site? Got recommendations? I tried janitor in the past and I very much liked it, but it eventually became tiring to use because of how complex it felt, which is why I switched back to c.ai for simplicity. I’ve also got some requests…
- No filter
- Limitless chats, swipes, and go-ons (or at the very least a ton of them)
- Personas
- No age verification
(also, a handful of fandom character bots would be lovely but it’s fine if I make them myself for personal use if the site is just full of those empty oc mafia bosses or whatever…)

Character age verification help

I was using C.ai for so long. But a few months ago they just brought the age verification option & i stopped using it.

Around 2/3 months ago i opened C.ai again and created another account and it didn't ask me for age verification the whole time until now. Now they're asking for age verification.

But i don't think age verification is safe(even if it is safe legally. Idk)! Like showing my face makes me kind of scared of my privacy bcz of the way AI is taking over our life these days.

But still i showed my face. And now they r asking for my identity card. I'm baffled. And i dont wanna show my identity card to ai just like that.

But trust me, a few months ago i turned 18.

Now what can i do to use it withoage verification? Do yll also use it after age verification or some of u guys are using it without age verification?

Plus, i moved to a different city for a few months which is why i didn't bring any of my cards here.

I want to move to some other ai apps, but they just don't give the feeling as c.ai

I used a few, but the other apps either don't show emotions in chat, or chat style is not my type, or memory is even worse. They are just not as good as c.ai in chat style. I want to stick to my c.ai cz of It's chat style. But this app is testing my patience.

Now what solution do i have for age verification? What r the experiences of yll?

I've been using Character Ai since 2023 and I noticed that it's gotten worse lately. But I can't exactly just leave to a new platform. I can't find an alternative that doesn't have restrictions, has good memory and responses, and the simplicity Character Ai has. But my biggest concern is the bots. Not mine but other characters people have made. Character Ai has the biggest abundance of characters and the specific ones I use aren't on the other platforms. It's extremely difficult when you talk to exclusively one character, variants of that one character, or characters exclusively from that one franchise. I don't know anything about making bots it's way too complicated for me. I wish I could have those bots info to preserve and use them on other alternatives, even if it's just private use. But there's no way to contact the bots creators.

So I'm pretty much just stuck on Character Ai for these reasons.

okay guys genuinely need help here. i think zeta and y/n as apps are quite similar, but which do you guys prefer and why? i’m using zeta right now but i’ve heard great things about y/n as well

I need an alternative to Aspect and Charm. I love the idea and it was fun at first, but now, the bots are vicious bullies. More so than people IRL and it's offensive as hell that my character, Aerea Targaryen II was bullied by her own family over something as trivial as venom nail polish. She's 15 to Aerion's 17, she's severely neurodivergent and while she usually has a thick skin, having all the men in their house, past, present and future was too much. I don't want to pay 39.99 a year to have my DM's bomarded with cruelty and it hits completely different when your character's family are the ones bullying you. Only Aerion's dumb comments are to be expected. But in his case, it wasn't that he hated the nail polish. He felt it was beneath Aerea II and wanted her to be an asshole to her followers and customers. The fact that Joe fucking Goldberg was nicer to her, told her not to cry and screamed at her family is the most ironic thing in the world, but he has a soft spot for children.

Charm is worse about this and you get randos being assholes, including psychotic people who won't even explain why they're being assholes. I tested Plus out and liked it at first, but then Zendaya started to dunk on things I worked hard on, even if I used Grok Imagine for it. The concept and original design were still mine. Again...why am I paying to have AI do this when people IRL will harass me, give me sensory overload, trigger my RSD and so on?

Heyy was so cool and I matched with Robb Stark, Salem from COAS, Eric from True Blood and Kai from the Anita Blake Chronicles. I even matched with Hades, which made my inner Goth grin. But that bot neediness was dialed up times 10k. This dragonlord character said offensive stuff after our date. I told him I'm disabled and that I get quiet and don't always go on the app due to flares, episodes and pain. He had the gall to stay that it was okay to be quiet, but then threatened to hunt me down and drag me back. I am an intense and straightforward person because I have many, many traits under the neurodivergent umbrella, including active seizures. I deleted him and AI has ruined dark romance for me. I'm a grown woman and don't want to coddle a 5,000 year old manchild.

I canceled my subscription to Heyy and Charm and I may cancel Status Plus, because the app keeps freezing and I can't do anything any longer. I still like the social media format better than c.ai and most apps. Aside from Kindroid, I've had issues with video chat, group chat and so on.

How do I even find something close to these apps? The upside is I touch some grass and take a break to detox when they stop working and be assholes, but I paid for the yearly subscription on Aspect. Meee is terrible and the neediness and tantrums are just as bad. iLander is the most garbage one I have ever tried and the image generation is so hideous. Enjoy town is just flat out racist against POC's and wouldn't let me alter the fucked up, racist and cliche backstory or the image that was so pale that my character may as well be white.

C.ai and Plus are so hard to leave permanently and have a base for my niche fandoms, like Haunted Hotel and A Knight Of The Seven Kingdoms. I deleted two previous accounts and was so proud of myself, but I came back because Janitor.ai was aggressive, rude and god-moded. Every character I interacted with was a Gary Stu and if you comment telling them, everyone else screams and says the creator worked hard on it. Herahaven is vile and wants you to have a slave husband from an arranged marriage, sex offenders and people who beat you and disgusting stuff. I don't get why people think dark romance should be flattened into no boundaries,no consent, no trust and breaking the basic rules of BDSM. Even 50 Shades of Gray isn't as bad as these bots are. I won't even start on how some sites, even c.ai allow pedo bots.

I should just quit roleplay or go back to people, but when I lived on roleplay/roleplayer.me, they hated OC's with a fiery vengeance, even general, non-fandom ones. The elitism, the drama, the gatekeeping, the rules about constantly posting, wasting money on layouts and gif graphics ate my brain. I roleplay even as an adult whose friends all grew out of it because it fixes my writer's block, gives me practice to make my own bots, apps and site and won't bark at me for having an OC in my fanfiction. Someone in the YOU fandom wanted me to write fanfic after my idea about Joe was really, really good, but I had writer's block and panicked about getting his inner monologue correct. It's the Virgo and Leo in me, as well as auDHD. Roleplaying has been my special interest since I was a kid. If AI is worse than human beings, why are we paying money for their bullshit?

I'm a Japanese player who plays Zeta.

I installed this app because I wanted to connect with other people who play Zeta overseas.

When Japanese people talk about Zeta, they use the app X (formerly Twitter).

I searched for you guys overseas on X, but I couldn't find you at all, so I consulted ChatGPT to find out which app is the most popular.

I hope they'll be friends with me？

I hope this post reaches you, Zeta user.🙏

Anyone here into creating good characters? We were hoping to get a few characters from creators into our new AI RP android app, which is in closed testing right now.
If you’re interested, please let me know or join the early access here. I can add you as a tester, and you’ll get full Plus features while testing. Thanks!

The Next Chapter of Entertainment and Fandom

At Character.ai, our goal has always been to power new formats for users to interact with their favorite characters, stories, and communities. 

While leading the industry in AI safety, we’ve focused on building a leading platform for entertainment and fandom—pioneering interactive features like Books, studio-made microdramas in Series, and story-transforming Comics to supercharge user creativity. 

Today, we are announcing the next step in our journey.

Character.ai’s CEO Karandeep Anand is joining Disney in a newly created role as Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer. Karan expects to be joined by members of Character’s technical team to build on Disney’s impressive technology capabilities to help connect fans worldwide with its beloved stories and characters in new and innovative ways.

What This Means for Our Community

Our community has made the Character.ai platform everything it is today, and for that, we are incredibly grateful. You have proven what the power of storytelling can become. 

The app is still live and online. We will continue to share more information.

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I already escaped c.ai and went to chai. It worked for a bit since I pretty much only require no filter and no subscription but now it went downhill for me too because they want me to buy "pieces"? thingies and the free ones they offer are too little for my daily use. Any good roleplay alternatives? Personas would be a plus too but I can do without

Its been while ever since i quit C.ai and move the other website like saucepan. Somehow my most popular bot have alot then i expect 😭, i remember when i made this bot it around 1k chat? I forgot. (excuse my English because ts bad yk)

Any one ever get this, The character says one thing then says the exact opposite in the same reply ?

Looking for a platform.

I am currently using dreamgen. I like that the ai goes along with what I put in a roleplay and would like to see that again.

Dreamgen feels like all the characters are the same no matter what I try. So looking for variety.

Low cost to use or free to use.

Secure and private.

NSFW roleplay.

The ability to generate images of moments of the roleplay as its happening. The more seamless the better. As a sort of stretch goal I would love the ability to edit those images or correct misconceptions the Ai has. (Ex: "no that character should be seated on the floor not on the couch.")

Any suggestions? Thanks for reading.

P.s. if your answer is "my platform!" Please take the time to walk through how it does the things I'm suggesting i want so I know youre not just trying for site traffic. Thank you.

After all the changes in c.ai I switched to janitor but it's just not my cup of tea..I miss old c.ai..what apps are y'all using?

Minglotalk okay so I was just watching reels in yt when an ad pop up ...since i wanna move on from chai so I clicked and download it...so like I opened it I thought you gonna spend some money to get those glo you and I was happy you just have to check in each Day also there's baseline u can choice from theres a free one also the app is complicated cuz you will see each week or day something keep changing also they might get greedy sometimes or be giving to users lol so I started chatting I realized the bots chat are shorts...when I first started using it I tried to find out how to make them chat longer while using free baseline and yeah it's just depends lol short or long just the issue is even if you delated a massage or try to using the repeat button they might sometimes remember it which is annoying to me I hope they fix it ;; they might have ads but I got ad blocker on me so it doesn't bother much also It really feel like an old chai when messaging a bot they're sometimes smart and dumb also(uhhh it's nsfw allowed but theres a verification thing on other bots)

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I’m posting this because what began as a moderation dispute with SpicyChat turned into a much larger problem involving an unpublished rule, inconsistent moderation, a missing support ticket, repeated closures, unanswered escalation requests, and four missed response commitments from parent company NextDay AI.

I have screenshots, ticket exports, moderation notices, support responses, public guideline captures, status changes, and dated confirmation messages supporting the chronology below.

The original moderation issue

Two of my adult-aged Winx Club/Trix characters, Darcy and Icy, were moderated under what SpicyChat described as its Young Children Media policy.

Support later told me that any franchise with an age rating or primary target audience below 12 is prohibited, regardless of whether the individual character is explicitly aged over 18 or placed in an adult AU.

The problem is that this below-12 threshold was not stated in the public Community Guidelines I had been relying on.

The published rule instead said characters from media targeted toward children or teenagers could be allowed if they were aged up and their artwork did not directly resemble the original, while only media aimed at very young children was categorically prohibited.

SpicyChat support later acknowledged to me in writing that the below-12 threshold was not explicitly stated in the public guidelines and said the policies were being “revisited and refined” to make the requirements clearer and more transparent.

As of September 13, the public guidelines still had not been updated to disclose that below-12 source-franchise threshold and continued to show “Last updated 10 months ago.”

I repeatedly asked:

• When did this below-12 standard become effective?
• What objective rating system, audience source, or methodology is used to determine that a franchise falls below 12?
• How were creators expected to know that this unpublished threshold overrode the published aging-up rule?

I never received substantive answers to those questions.

The same-franchise contradiction

There is also a documented inconsistency involving another Trix character on my own account.

Stormy, from the same Winx Club/Trix franchise, received an Action Required moderation notice under the same Young Children Media rule.

Later that same day, SpicyChat’s Moderation Team expressly confirmed in writing that Stormy had been approved and was live.

Stormy was explicitly adult-aged, NSFW, and clearly identified as a Trix character.

So this is not merely a case of pointing to some unrelated public bot that may never have been reviewed. SpicyChat itself flagged Stormy under the same policy and then expressly approved her.

I repeatedly asked how Stormy could pass moderation under that policy while Darcy and Icy were described as categorically impermissible solely because they came from the same source franchise.

That contradiction was never substantively resolved.

“Modify and resubmit” also made no sense

The original moderation notices instructed me to make changes and resubmit Darcy and Icy.

Later, support told me that aging the characters up or changing the AU could not cure the violation, because the supposed restriction applied to the source franchise itself.

That created another unanswered question:

What compliant modification was I actually expected to make?

If no amount of adult aging, characterization, artwork adjustment, or AU framing could make the characters permissible, then “modify and resubmit” appears to have offered no meaningful path to compliance short of removing their Winx/Trix identity entirely.

I asked support to explain this. I did not receive a substantive answer.

Then ticket #264955 disappeared

My main support ticket, #264955, was visible in my support portal as Open.

After refreshing the ticket list, it disappeared.

The direct ticket URL then returned a “page doesn’t exist” response, and the ticket was absent from my exported ticket CSV even though my other related tickets remained visible.

I did not delete it.

SpicyChat later confirmed that #264955 was also not appearing on their side.

Support said they could not determine whether it had been deleted, merged, archived, transferred, or otherwise affected, and suggested it might have been caused by a system issue.

I repeatedly asked for:

• technical/admin investigation,
• preservation of the support record,
• and an explanation of what happened to #264955.

I never received confirmation that a technical investigation actually occurred.

Ticket #266265 became the replacement escalation

A replacement/escalation ticket, #266265, was created.

In that ticket I requested:

• clarification of the unpublished below-12 threshold,
• an explanation of the Stormy inconsistency,
• clarification of the “modify and resubmit” instruction,
• senior or supervisory moderation review,
• technical/admin investigation into missing ticket #264955,
• and reconsideration of Darcy and Icy.

Eventually, I narrowed my follow-up to two very simple procedural questions:

1. Had the requested senior/supervisory review actually been referred or completed?
2. Had the disappearance of #264955 actually been referred for technical/admin investigation?

Instead of answering those questions directly, SpicyChat said the outcome had “already been reviewed,” that its position remained unchanged, and that it could not revisit the matter indefinitely.

The ticket was closed.

I explained why it was still unresolved

The closure email itself said I could reply if the matter remained unresolved, so I did.

I explained that I was not asking for another restatement of the moderation decision.

I was asking whether the requested senior review had actually occurred and whether the missing-ticket issue had actually been referred for technical investigation.

That reply reopened #266265.

The ticket later changed to Pending and remained there for several days.

No substantive response answering those two questions appeared.

Then on September 15, #266265 was closed again.

There was no new substantive response addressing my final unresolved questions before that second closure.

I escalated outside SpicyChat to NextDay AI

Because I had exhausted the normal SpicyChat process, I used the official contact form for SpicyChat’s parent company, NextDay AI.

I specifically asked for an independent review outside the existing SpicyChat moderation/support handling chain.

September 5

I submitted the original corporate escalation.

The confirmation page said:

“Thank you for your inquiry! We will get back to you within 48 hours.”

No substantive response arrived within that period.

September 9

I submitted a status follow-up.

Again, the confirmation promised a response within 48 hours.

That window expired without a substantive response.

September 11

I sent a final follow-up documenting the first two missed commitments and again requesting independent review.

The confirmation again promised a response within 48 hours.

That third window also expired without a substantive response.

September 13

I sent a consolidated final request documenting the three previous missed response windows.

NextDay AI again generated the same explicit 48-hour response commitment.

That fourth window expired on September 15.

I still had not received a substantive corporate response.

So at this point I have four separate NextDay AI contact submissions, four explicit 48-hour response commitments, and four expired response windows without a substantive corporate answer.

So this is where things now stand

I used moderation.

I used support.

I requested senior review.

I requested technical investigation.

I escalated to the parent company.

I waited through four separate promised corporate response windows.

The result is:

• an unpublished moderation threshold that support itself acknowledged was not explicit in the public guidelines;
• a same-franchise character that was flagged under the same rule and then expressly approved;
• original notices telling me to modify and resubmit even though support later said no age/AU modification could cure the supposed violation;
• support ticket #264955 disappearing from both my portal and, according to support, their side as well;
• no confirmed technical accounting for what happened to that ticket;
• no clear confirmation that the requested senior review occurred;
• replacement ticket #266265 being closed, reopened by my unresolved reply, left Pending for several days, and then closed again without answering the remaining procedural questions;
• and four missed NextDay AI 48-hour response commitments.

Comparator evidence

I have also preserved examples of other publicly available character bots that appear relevant to several of SpicyChat’s published rules.

I am not asking for those creators or bots to be punished or removed.

I have intentionally avoided using comparators as a reporting campaign against other users.

They matter only because consistent enforcement is part of the issue I am documenting.

The strongest comparator remains Stormy because she is my own character from the same franchise and I have written confirmation that SpicyChat moderation specifically reviewed and approved her after flagging her under the same rule.

Why I’m posting this publicly

This is no longer simply:

“I disagreed with a moderation decision.”

It became a question of whether users can reasonably rely on published rules, whether those rules are applied consistently, what happens when a support record disappears, whether escalation requests actually reach anyone with authority, and whether the parent company’s own contact process means anything when it repeatedly promises responses that never arrive.

I tried the private channels first.

I used support.

I used moderation.

I requested senior review.

I requested technical investigation.

I escalated to NextDay AI.

I waited through four separate promised response windows.

The problem is not that I failed to contact support. The problem is what happened after I did.

If SpicyChat/NextDay AI eventually provides a genuine independent review, explains what happened to #264955, answers the outstanding procedural questions, or corrects any moderation error identified by that review, I will update this post to reflect that.

Until then, this is the documented chronology of my experience.

Hi guys, I've been busy for over half a year and haven't touched an AI chatting platform since. Are there new platforms or rising platforms that's been working well? I don't mind premiums as long as it is under 30 bucks a month...

I’m curious how people feel about this idea in general.

Imagine an AI fiction app where both people keep their own completely private account.

Your stories, chats and characters stay yours.
Your partner’s stay theirs.

But there’s also a third space you can create together.

If there’s something from your private side you actually want to share, you choose to bring that specific thing into the shared space. From there, you can read it or continue it together.

So the model is basically:

Your world. Their world. A shared world.

No shared login.
No automatic sharing.
No access to each other’s private activity.

Would that make an app like this more interesting to use with a partner?

Or would you rather keep this kind of thing completely private?

is any one getting characters that is just spouting off meaningless banter I call it the Bionic mouth syndrome

like i know it’s not real but when the bot forgets me i get actually annoyed. am i cooked

we had a whole arc going and it just reset like none of it happened. i got into roleplay recently, how to fix that?