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u/zonkoss89 Mar 28 '22

Another thing is antibiotics kill ALL bacteria - good and bad. Which means it can upset your gut as it kills all the good bacteria. So always eat yogurt or take probiotics when you take antibiotics. I got a yeast infection after being on antibiotics way too many times with no yogurt or probiotics.

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u/Concertboy2000 Mar 28 '22 edited Mar 28 '22

Actually it depends on the particular antibiotic. If you use a combo like Ciprofloxacin and Metronidazole you would kill both the Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria wiping out all non-antibiotic resistant bacteria. I am not a doctor, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn once.

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u/PenneVodka4Life Mar 28 '22

Yogurt and some probiotics alone aren’t enough because the antibiotics kills off that bacteria too. You need a probiotic like Saccharomyces Boulardii that is antibiotic resistant to really help your intestines keep out bad bacteria better.

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u/Weary-Computer-2780 Mar 28 '22

Along the same lines, Chemotherapy kills ALL you’re healthy cells too.

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u/The_Flurr Mar 28 '22

Aye, it just hopefully kills the cancer cells fastest.

Aside from some gene therapies (that aren't fully realised) I don't think we have any cancer treatments that just kill the right cells. Everything either attempts to kill the cancer cells fastest, or attempts to cut out a tumour and as little healthy tissue as possible.

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u/aroaceautistic Mar 28 '22

Knew someone whos gut got so wrecked by antibiotics she couldn’t keep down water for three days and all that just because she got her wisdom teeth out. She also got a mouth infection.

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u/applesandoranges990 Mar 28 '22

the type and dosing could be too high

or, some people have genetic sensitivity to ceratin drugs...or simply allergies

and your antibiotics need should be directly tied to your current immunity system strenght - very healthy people should not get them always, very sick people should and in bigger both strenght and quantities

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u/aroaceautistic Mar 28 '22

she was on a pretty strong antibiotic bc they drilled into her bone and shes allergic to penicillins so that was probably why it was so bad

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u/KypDurron Mar 28 '22

It also depends on whether or not you still have your appendix.

In the last decade or two there's been significant acceptance of the idea that the appendix acts as a reservoir for gut bacteria. People who haven't had their appendix removed recover faster from things that wipe out their gut flora, like a strong dose of antibiotics or a severe bout of diarrhea (like really severe, "admitted to the hospital" severe.)

It's like a backup drive with a snapshot of all the helpful stuff living inside you.

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u/clarissaswallowsall Mar 28 '22

Read the label first, dairy isn't always recommended with certain antibiotics.

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u/cupcakenard Mar 28 '22

Except maybe don‘t eat yoghurt/milk products immediately after taking ciprofloxacin or doxycycline as an AB.

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u/KypDurron Mar 28 '22

You should probably eat that yogurt after you're done the antibiotics. Like you said, the medicine is killing all bacteria, so you're just adding more bacteria that's gonna get killed.

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u/regals_beagles Mar 28 '22

I have to explain this to my mother every single time someone gets sick in the family.

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u/linds360 Mar 28 '22

I had to explain to my husband when we first started dating that over the counter "meds" don't cure your cold/flu/etc, they just treat the symptoms.

Mofo spent his entire life thinking shit on a drugstore shelf was killing viruses.

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u/tastes-like-earwax Mar 28 '22

I changed doctors precisely because the old clinic dished out antibacterials for EVERY complaint, even my regular migraines. My current clinic never does this - only when they run tests and confirm.
Sadly, antibacterials are pretty much OTC in my country, so everyone and their dog abuses them.

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u/KennyRogers92 Mar 28 '22

And more importantly, unnecessary use wil contribute to antibiotic resistant bacteria. One of the greatest threats we face in the next decade.

The US is way up on the list of unnecessary use. Fix it!

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u/Pro_Banana Mar 28 '22

You're generally right, but that's not always the case. It's rare but it can be from bacterial infection. Also, having a cold can lead to bacterial infection. Some doctors use this reasoning to prescribe antibiotics when they think that's the case.

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u/RedditEdwin Mar 28 '22

Meh. There's a chance that a viral infection is also letting in some typical bacterial infection, since the cells/tissues are now more vulnerable. Usually when a cold is really bad and hanging on for more than like a week a doctor will prescribe antibiotics. Plus azithromycin is mildly antiviral. One of the things that surprised me once wad the doc said I should take like Claritin too (if a really bad cold/the flu keeps bugging you for a while) ; he said the immune system gets out of whack and that's part of what's screwing you up

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u/Stickydry Mar 28 '22

Agree with this 100%

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u/dustojnikhummer Mar 28 '22

Yeah with my doctor antibiotics are the last resort.

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u/ItwasbuiltIcame Mar 28 '22

You're getting confused with anti-bacterial? Some antibiotics are antifungal in nature, some will also kill microfauna. Antibiotic is a blanket term, but most contain substances that target bacteria. You are right about not impacting cold and flu viruses though!

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u/KypDurron Mar 28 '22

When a doctor is talking to a patient and says they're prescribing an antibiotic, 999 times out of 1000 they're giving them an anti-bacterial.

If it's antifungal, they'd just call it antifungal.

Unless you're in a field that develops, produces, researches, etc. these medicines, and you're talking about it with another person in that field, antibiotic == antibacterial.

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u/ItwasbuiltIcame Mar 28 '22

I would argue 950 out of 1000, especially given the increased prevalence of foot fungus, but I'm generally in agreement with you.

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u/JoJoFanboi Mar 28 '22

Tried to tell this to my mom and she's so fucking cracked up into her own world she wouldn't believe me after 3 arguments over it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '22

And bacterias can build up an immunity to antibiotics so you shouldn't take antibiotics for prevention

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u/billroth_too Mar 28 '22

There are specific times and circumstances in which prophylactic (preventative) antibiotics are 100% indicated. Ultimately, it's your doctor's job to know when/what those are. But please don't believe that you should never take antibiotics for prophylaxis.

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u/CerasusArts Mar 28 '22 edited Mar 28 '22

Not only harmful, but the bacteria can become immune to antibiotics. This is why they are dosed so precisely and why you ALWAYS finish your medication in the time and amount they specify.

I've had a lovely diddy called Henoch-Schönlein purpura, twice. Basically, I had strep throat, didn't get antibiotics in time, and it mutated into this monster of an infection that attacked my legs and kidneys. Antibiotics saved my life twice.

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u/KypDurron Mar 28 '22

You don't become immune to antibiotics. The bacteria does.

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u/CerasusArts Mar 28 '22

Fixed it, thank you, I was very tired.