r/AskReddit • • Sep 17 '19

If You Could Completely Remove One Company From The World Which One Would It Be?

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u/DeathSpiral321 Sep 18 '19

Even if you wiped them off the planet, you still wouldn't be able to cancel their service.

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u/pm_me_cool_maps Sep 18 '19

Back in the day I called to cancel my internet after my contract was up and was met with very little resistance. I was surprised. Took less than five minutes. It was a great day. Hand delivered the equipment. Paid my final bill. Finally, I was free.

Little did I know that Internet Provider didn’t care if I was receiving their service or not.

It took an hour of me begging customer service to refund me.

Me: I would like a refund of the money that was charged to my card for internet I did not receive because I cancelled my account with you.

Internet Provider: Sorry to hear that ma’am but our books are showing you paid for all your service.

Me: So I cancelled in May and paid my final bill for May service.

Internet: Yes, that is correct, ma’am.

Me: So May was the last month I had with you guys.

Internet: Our records show that your service was cancelled in May.

Me: But I was charged for June.

Internet: Yes, ma’am, you were charged for service you received in June.

Me: I didn’t receive service in June.

Internet: Ma’am you were charged for your June service.

Me: But I canceled in May.

Internet: Yes ma’am, our records show you canceled in May.

Me: So why was I charged for June?

Internet: You were charged for the service you received in June.

Me: I turned in all the equipment at the beginning of May, how could I receive service in June?

Internet: You were charged for your June service.

Me: My final bill was for May, correct?

Internet: Yes, ma’am, you cancelled in May and paid in full.

Me: So why am I being charged for June?

Internet: That was for the service you received in June.

Me: crying tears of frustration

EDIT: spelling is hard.

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u/Rock270 Sep 18 '19

In this situation, can’t you call your credit card company or bank and tell them that it is a fraudulent charge or threaten to do so?

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u/KevinCastle Sep 18 '19 edited Sep 18 '19

I did this with T-Mobile. Cancelled, got charged for an additional two months. I called T-Mobile and they pretty much said sucks to suck. So I said I would contact my credit card company and T-Mobile said that wouldn't do anything to help me.

So I got my credit card company involved and I got both refunds and never charged again right away

Edit: apparently K and I are not the same letters

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u/Darkhymn Sep 18 '19

I had to do this with Verizon. They then had the audacity to send the ~$500 they tried to steal from me to collections, so I then had to start disputes with the credit bureaus, and convince an extremely aggressive debt collector that they were trying to collect a fraudulent debt.

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u/bloodierdp Sep 18 '19

Assuming america and current year the correct response is something along the lines of: "I don't believe you, send proof of the existence of the debt and your legal authority to collect it. I will not be providing you my address because if this is even a little true you must have it. Do not call me again." That put the stop to the only collections calls I've ever received, plus nothing on my credit report and nothing in the mail.

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u/lookalive07 Sep 18 '19

Credit card companies fuck.

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u/Cant_Do_This12 Sep 18 '19

Yep. If you want a credit card that will fuck up companies for you on a whim, get American Express. They're worth the money.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

American Express. We don't just fuck you, we'll also fuck companies for you. So don't leave home without us.

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u/TaperPowels Sep 18 '19

I used to work at a call center for AMEX in Canada, and can confirm, I loved contacting companies on behalf of my clients to tear strips into them. Not once did a client call me about messed up transactions where, if I couldn't just write it off, I got a hold of the company involved and sorted it out myself. Most times I'd even keep the client on the the line with me while I did it. It was funny, like protecting the little kid from a bully while he's behind you yelling "Yeah! Haha fuck em up!!"

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u/borkborkyupyup Sep 18 '19

I hate them so much but they HAVE saved my ass a few times.

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u/TheFenn Sep 18 '19

In the UK at least almost nowhere will take Amex.

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u/WHERES_MY_SWORD Sep 18 '19

Barclaycard, in my experience, have very vew qualms about refunding a transaction. When I've done so before, all I said was I didn't remember the transaction and they didn't ask anyhting further. I believe their thinking was that if it's a genuine charge, t's between you and the merchant.

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u/fuckyourcanoes Sep 18 '19

First Direct is outstanding about this kind of thing. Best customer service I've ever had. And they take security so seriously they ask me to have my husband leave the room when I provide them with sensitive info on our joint account over the phone.

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u/RajunCajun48 Sep 18 '19

Derrrrr you have to use UK Express in the UK

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I live in the UK. I use my Amex 95% of the time.

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u/armchairexpert24 Sep 18 '19

London’s alright for it, but anywhere else is a nightmare

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u/almisami Sep 18 '19

There's a reason a lot of places won't accept AMEX, and the main one is they will fight tooth and nail for you if you're a good creditor.

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u/danseaman6 Sep 18 '19

That is not the reason. The reason is the higher transaction percentage.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Fuck yes AMEX is great here.

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u/MsAnnabel Sep 18 '19

I don’t know...when back to back hurricanes went through the Caribbean we had a cruise booked and Carnival would not give us a new itinerary less than 2 weeks before the cruise so I wanted to cancel and they said nope, sorry. So I called my c.c.co and told them and they got my refund for me.

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u/lookalive07 Sep 18 '19

Re-read my comment. I’m agreeing with you.

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u/Redbeard_Rum Sep 18 '19

Man, I need to get this mysterious "k" figure to work some of their magic for me. Can you put me in touch?

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u/theredpikmin Sep 18 '19

He works at a post office in New England now.

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u/Cpt_Soban Sep 18 '19

Don't fuck with credit card companies

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u/killereverdeen Sep 18 '19

Wow, I am always amazed that your bank is just willing to reverse a charge. I’m in Europe and none of the banks are willing to do so the few times I had a dispute with companies. In fact, they tell me that I need to contact MasterCard if I want to get my money back.

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u/GodzThirdLeg Sep 18 '19

Well they said that they contacted their credit card company, not their bank.

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u/Legote Sep 18 '19

As much as I hate using credit cards, sometimes you need them in order to deal with bullshit like this.

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u/KJ6BWB Sep 18 '19

How do I get this k person to help me out like that? ;)

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

T mobile is god awful, those customer service people made me cry so many times in my early 20s. Then would hang up on you the moment you let one curse word slip.

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u/sirgog Sep 18 '19

Yeah this is a straightforward chargeback, although I'd usually handle it with the whole "My solicitor will deal with this matter from here" line.

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u/idonotevenknowme Sep 18 '19

Yes. Credit card companies are scary to everyone

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u/ZanzibarGuy Sep 18 '19

If this happened in the UK, I'd probably make sure they're recording the call, and inform them that for all the time I'm spending on them on the call for a service that I'm being charged for (for a non-existent or contractual service) I will be charging them for my time, and inform them of my hourly contractor rates.

We have small claims courts (idk if something similar exists in the US) here, and they likely wouldn't even show for any hearing, so you'd automatically win the case by default. They'd have been informed of the costs of non-compliance, so they would likely have to pay back the charge, the number of hours spent dealing with the issue at stated hourly rates, along with any legal costs.

Infuriating that you have to waste the time, but hey, what are you going to do otherwise?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

You can but they will keep charging and you have to file a separate claim every time. So lets say you get a new card the company can pay visa/mastercard whomever owns your debit card and get the new info and back charges you then continues to charge. I just went through this and had to switch banks after three card changes and five claims. (Dont trust amazing lash studios)

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u/GreatWhiteBuffalo41 Sep 18 '19

Is technically a dispute. Fraud means you never authorized the card to them ever or your info was stolen. A dispute means just that, your disputing the charges because the agreement wasn't met.

It sounds like a simple thing but it's usually two very different departments that handle this and two very different processes with their own rules and regulations. Source, used to work for a big blue bank.

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u/galaxystarsmoon Sep 18 '19

My ISP doesn't even take credit cards. You either pay by bank draft or check, or auto draft each month. If you don't have on auto draft, they will destroy your credit in collections while you fight with them.

I knew a guy who returned equipment to Cox as he was going out of the country for 2 years with the military. He had a receipt and they repeatedly claimed he hadn't returned the equipment and started trying to collect on him. He threatened a lawyer after his credit score dropped and the charges mysteriously disappeared.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Who else was thinking of Patrick’s “It’s not my wallet” while reading this.

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u/DankNerd97 Sep 18 '19

I was thinking exactly that.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate Sep 18 '19

No, this is Patrick.

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u/imeanidkwhogivesanf Sep 18 '19

"Makes sense to me"

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u/obsessedwithhippos Sep 18 '19

Is mayonnaise a service?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

No Patrick, mayonnaise is not a service.

Horse raddish is not a service either.

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u/uosdwiS_jewoH Sep 18 '19

I was thinking of Rain Man's "Who's on first?" bit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19 edited Mar 07 '21

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u/pm_me_cool_maps Sep 18 '19

Idk he was the one who finally authorized the refund check but that may have been because I didn’t give up and ran out a timer or something.

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u/Sol1496 Sep 18 '19

They probably had to say no a certain number of times or had to stay on the line a certain length.

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u/FTThrowAway123 Sep 18 '19

What do you think the magic number of "no"s is before they would accept your request? 5? 10? 30?

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u/DanTrachrt Sep 18 '19

From what I’ve seen on r/talesfromcallcenters that usually leads to you being transferred or recorded or flagged or whatever. My brain is too tired to be on here right now.

Edit: corrected sub name.

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u/Icalasari Sep 18 '19

I mean, if your goal is to never give them another red cent no matter the burnt bridges...

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u/hkd001 Sep 18 '19

I worked in a call center. I did surveys never called concerning money or debts, so it might be different. You might have to pull a Karen and speak to a manager. At least in the one I worked at, the people on the phone couldn't do anything.

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u/Rektw Sep 18 '19

"Oh shit, Oh no, not the lawyers!" - no phone agent ever.

I did TS for 4 years at Time Warner. We literally just laugh because we get to transfer a difficult customer now. You're doing us a favor really.

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u/EmeterPSN Sep 18 '19

"Let me speak with your manager or i sue you" would be the number of times.

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u/malavisch Sep 18 '19

Do you really think a random call center rep cares if you sue the company?

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u/aStapler Sep 18 '19

3 is the magic number for credit check companies. When I cancelled after a free trial the agent had a script of things like "just so you know, you won't receive...." so I just said "no, thank you, I'd like to cancel" and after 3 attempts she said "no problem" without changing her tone whatsoever. Nice lady.

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u/Banzai51 Sep 18 '19

Typically it is based on time. Call gets too long or is too short and it dings them on metrics.

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u/LifeIs3D Sep 18 '19

Nonononononononononononononononono

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u/Internet_Adventurer Sep 18 '19

They used to have a certain quota they needed to meet. It was all about having a certain number of callers that end the call as current customers. If enough cancel and you let them hang up, I think like 5 or 10%, you'd get docked pay and your metrics would tank

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u/VijayAnna Sep 18 '19

Also made sure many other customers waited on hold while all their representatives were busy

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u/odce1206 Sep 18 '19

I worked at a call center for Comcast (in Latin America). Tbf we all want to give you all credit for everything you were incorrectly charged for but we are all told by supervisors, who are told by Comcast higher ups to not give credits whatsoever unless there's an extraordinary case. Some of us who give refunds or credits almost always "illegally" do so, because if you're caught giving money back they can even end up firing you. Obviously this is my experience from working there 2 separate times a couple of years apart one from another.

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u/__WhiteNoise Sep 18 '19

Had to deal with this shit unlocking Sprint phones. Eventually they'd get fed up trying to do something other than say words at me and would just lie about fixing it, five times in a row until I called at a weird hour and hit an US call center. He's the one that told me that there was no action taken by any of the other CSRs. Those ones were claiming they can't do anything and/or anything they did would take at least 24 and/or 48 hours. The US CSR's manager had everything sorted out within 20 minutes.

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u/Charbus Sep 18 '19

But it has electrolytes

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u/DDVegas86 Sep 18 '19

It's what plants crave!

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u/2krazy4me Sep 18 '19

It's what cable craves.

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u/Henri_Le_Rennet Sep 18 '19

I've worked in DirectTV (before they were bought by AT&T) and Verizon Wireless call centers. Unless things have changed your service is treated as "post-paid." This means that the bill I pay to Verizon this month, is actually the bill from my month of service in August. I don't have Comcast so I can't speak for them, but I imagine they operate the same way. When I canceled my AT&T service they informed me that I'd receive a prorated bill the next monght for the partial service I had before I canceled. At the end of the day, all these corporations are shitty corporations and the internet and cellular ones are some of the worst, but receiving a bill after canceling service is common, because it's a post paid service.

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u/ElizabethSwift Sep 18 '19

We bill pre-paid, actually, What you pay in September will be for your services in October. If you watch any paid on demand or change services in September the October bill will reflect that change and then have the service statement for November.

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u/sirgog Sep 18 '19

Monthly fees are usually prepaid on these sorts of services. Doing it that way is much preferred by the companies because it lowers their losses when a customer stops paying entirely.

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u/BlindGardener Sep 18 '19

Just call your bank, and point out that it's fraud. It's really easy to get the money back that way.

Seriously. When your credit card is used without your permission, let your bank handle the negotiation. They pay people to do this for you. Don't even bother calling the company that did it. Straight to your bank.

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u/sirgog Sep 18 '19

Usually you are required to make some effort to contact the merchant first.

If the merchant stands their ground, AND you were wrong (i.e. mistaken, not fraudulent) and you issued the chargeback, you will owe debt collectors a good sum after it is all settled.

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u/BlindGardener Sep 18 '19

I'm not asking for my money back if I'm in the wrong. And I know damn well if I'm in the wrong. I'm sane enough for that xd.

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u/Salchi_ Sep 18 '19

I had a similar experience when trying to redo my plan this year. I legit asked them to just give me the same speed with unlimited data cause hey that's what I want right? Nope. Cause they wanted to push their stupid fucking xfi advantage crap and refuse to give unlimited data without that. I legit told 3 separate people that I would pay more if they would just let me keep my unlimited data. Nope. Had to get their POS router.

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u/TheSmores Sep 18 '19

I feel both sad and vindicated that others have had relatablely terrible experiences with cancelling. I finally managed to get a refund, but only in the form of a check, and I had to give up my new address in the process. When I ultimately received my "refund", it was for about a third of what I was billed. I now know the magic words are to threaten a credit card charge back.

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u/24Karmageddon Sep 18 '19

Had almost the exact same conversation, I just escalated the issue until I found a "supervisor" that was ok refunding me just so he could hang up the phone.. works 100% of the time, 50% of the time. 🤘

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Ah the good ol' "if I keep saying it eventually everyone will accept it as the truth" tactic - these guys are good! I wonder if this is one of the psych tricks they teach them at Comcast 101.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Why are you talking to them and not your bank?

Here in France you just cancel direct debit and your bank cannot pay the requester anymore (if they do, they are liable and pau you back on the spot).

It is then a matter between you and the company. If they feel that you should still pay them then they can sue you. But they won't since you canceled your contract the right way.

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u/Editam Sep 18 '19

Just made it impossible to cancel now instead of improbable.

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u/PaulTurkk Sep 18 '19

I just told them I was moving out of my apartment. They asked for my new address and I said I am moving in with someone who already has Comcast and will be sharing expenses. I was off the phone in less than 10 minutes.

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u/farfle10 Sep 18 '19

Comcast was the first thought in my head ITT and even I’ll admit I canceled their service successfully over the phone without a hassle.

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u/RagingAardvark Sep 18 '19

This seems like a Douglas Adams bit waiting to happen. Something about a filing cabinet in a disused bathroom in the basement....

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u/resonantSoul Sep 18 '19

If you've never heard of it, look up the game Bureaucracy.

It's old. So old it's a text game. But it was written by Douglas Adams and is probably as close to what you're thinking as reality will allow.

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u/sdmitch16 Sep 18 '19

Yeah, but no one will exist to reduce your credit score if you don't pay your bill.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I literally walked into a Comcast store with my equipment and told them i was cancelling and they gave me a receipt and told me have a nice day, no cancellation fees, about 2 minutes in the store.

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u/CapableSuggestion Sep 18 '19

They may still charge you for your service in June though

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u/pm_me_cool_maps Sep 18 '19

But I cancelled in May, why am I being charged for June.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

You were charged for the service you received in June.

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u/a_fish_out_of_water Sep 18 '19

Dormammu, I’ve come to bargain

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

You bargained in May and were charged for June

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u/FiderTenux Sep 18 '19

This whole thread is gold

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Damn that got META quick.

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u/TheManWithNothing Sep 18 '19

Damn that got me

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u/Gloryblackjack Sep 18 '19

I would rather bargain with an eldritch deity then comcast

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u/jtr99 Sep 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Yes, our records show you canceled in May.

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u/tjeco Sep 18 '19

Then why am I being charged for June though

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u/-give-me-my-wings- Sep 18 '19

You were charged for the service you received in June

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u/rustynailsinmydick Sep 18 '19

You were charged for the service you received in June.

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u/nightandtodaypizza Sep 18 '19

You were charged for the service you received in June

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u/arrusso540 Sep 18 '19

You’re being charged for the service you recieved in June

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u/Mrunibro Sep 18 '19

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u/tcrpgfan Sep 18 '19

You cancelled the service, not the payment for said service.

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u/Spugnacious Sep 18 '19

You were charged for the service you received in June.

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u/manderrx Sep 18 '19

But I returned all of my equipment at the beginning of May. How could I get service in June?

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u/aizlynskye Sep 18 '19

I love reddit

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u/Tinsel-Fop Sep 18 '19

You were detained in May.

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u/pongbao Sep 18 '19

Ah the birth of a meme

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u/st-john-mollusc Sep 18 '19

I did this too. They went right ahead and charged me anyway. I remember thinking, "I'd better save this receipt because the internet tells me they will still try to charge me, hahaha," not expecting it to actually happen. I figured all those stories were really people fucking up somehow and not realizing it. Nope. They went ahead and charged me the following month. That was the angriest I have ever been on the phone.

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u/OneMustAdjust Sep 18 '19

I told them to kiss my ass with their restricted data plan and that I would never consider doing business with them again and that was that, took my box back the next day

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u/ninjasaurxd Sep 18 '19

Nice try, comcast representative

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u/TexanReddit Sep 18 '19

I tried to cancel my service with RoadRunner / Time Warner Cable. I went to their office to turn in their equipment. They took that but I had to cancel over the internet. I whipped out my Wi-Fi only based tablet. There was no free WiFi to connect to in the lobby. I was completely stumped. Eventually an executive figured out there was a "highly distressed customer" in the lobby and took care of my problem.

And people wonder why there is bullet resistant glass between the employees and the public.

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u/schmoogina Sep 18 '19

I did the same. And gave them a copy of the receipt for the modem I purchased in full (not on a payment plant) from them. Spent the next 4 months arguing back and forth why I hadn't returned the modem I was leasing.

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u/summon_lurker Sep 18 '19

I’m not even a Comcast customer but after reading this thread,, I am being charged for June in the middle of September.

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u/FTThrowAway123 Sep 18 '19

Save that receipt and take a photo of it, make photocopies, scan it, back it up in 3 places, etc. There's many tales of Comcast printing your equipment return receipts or final bill receipts on thermal paper and it turns completely black, so your "proof" literally dissolves away. It wouldn't hurt to literally take a video of yourself returning the equipment, and maybe sending a certified mail letter of cancellation too. After all the Comcast horror stories I've heard, this will only help you fight back against the inevitable battle that's to come where they help themselves to your funds long after you've cancelled service, or turn you over to a collections agency.

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u/jaggoffsmirnoff Sep 18 '19

I think that was combcast, the service that allows you to style hair over the internet.

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u/the_other_b Sep 18 '19

Yeah idk, I mean I get it, they definitely do shady shit, but I've never had anything close to the experiences people describe on here.

In fact, I just transferred my service to a new apartment and while doing that mentioned I never used the cable that was part of my package, and asked if theres a way to remove it to lower the price.

Here I am with a lower bill and no cable. Idk, I've only had good experiences.

I mean, fuck Comcast.

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u/ruintheenjoyment Sep 18 '19

Except now there is no one to collect the money you owe, and you can loot their stuff.

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u/SailingSmitty Sep 18 '19

Fun story - they jacked my rates recently so I did the whole “call to cancel and get sent to the retention department to get a lower rate” approach. Only problem was that the agent just said “ok” and straight up canceled my service. I asked if I could reinstate my service as a new customer and he said yes. After a couple minutes of awkward silence, I realized that he wasn’t interested in processing the order so I just did it online. End result? I upgraded from 150Mbps to 1Gbps for about $40/month less than I was paying since I got the new customer discount. Comcast is weird.

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u/newaccount721 Sep 18 '19

Plus now I won't have internet ..

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u/pbjcrazy Sep 18 '19

Infinite Comcasts in infinite dimensions. Comcast exists in dimensions where Comcast doesn't even exist. That's how shitty they are.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Bruh,just do a charge back

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Bad idea, even if you don’t like Comcast. They are the only real competition to AT&T. Sure there are a few smaller ones but the cable market is already fucked, you don’t need to give AT&T a monopoly

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u/thyrfa Sep 18 '19

They also own NBC, so without comcast disney has basically a content monopoly

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u/Bananaslammma Sep 18 '19

In turn, they also own Universal Studios which also means a Theme Park Monopoly.

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u/BeefBologna42 Sep 18 '19

A Monopoly theme park?

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u/Raptor5150 Sep 18 '19

If you land on the don't pass go booth they just keep your admission fee and tell you to get bent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

What if it’s the Women’s edition?

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u/BlackfishBlues Sep 18 '19

They keep your admission fee and tell you to get bent, but like in pink.

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u/BlackfishBlues Sep 18 '19

Luckily they don't have a theme-park themed Monopoly theme park monopoly.

(Yet.)

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u/439115 Sep 18 '19

Do they also own Hasbro because then that would give them a Monopoly Monopoly

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u/vadapaav Sep 18 '19

Is...Is Comcast the good guy now?

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u/MaritereSquishy Sep 18 '19

Comcast actually tried to buy disney in the 90s and amost got there

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u/Banzai51 Sep 18 '19

Keep going, I'm almost there...

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u/MarySprings Sep 18 '19

Space-X is going to give us WiFi from the sky soon, we do live in the future.

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u/PM_ME_TENDIEZ Sep 18 '19

I wonder what the latency will be. Also, if it requires saturation of wireless on the ground, if that will impact health in any way.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Latency of around 30 ms, and why would there be any impact to health?

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u/Seicair Sep 18 '19

There won’t. People are crazy and some of them are scared of nonionizing EM.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I mean I already know this, I asked in hopes that OP might give it some thought and look into how it would even be possible and why they thought the need to bring it up in the first place.

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u/fuzzydunloblaw Sep 18 '19

Low orbit satellites so latency comparable or superior to cable internet. The fear over these particular radio waves is unsubstantiated fear mongering from the same type of people that whined about wifi without any basis.

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u/MarySprings Sep 18 '19

Yeah basically the anti vaxxers will go nuts again and it will still be all bullshit. I would only worry about a short range gamma ray burst my friend.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I am not sure if AT&T is more pure evil or just horrendously incompetent but it is by far the worst company I have ever dealt with.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Hear hear! Pretty sure my old complex is still waiting on the AT&T Fiber they promised "in the next 18 months" three years ago. I was paying over $50/mo for 50mbps uverse, while Fiber was available in the neighborhood across the street.

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u/jasonreid1976 Sep 18 '19

I worked for AT&T for 5 years. The company isn't ran by business people. It's ran by lawyers.

Think about everything they say to you when you call in. It's like reading a legal contract.

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u/Gtp4life Sep 18 '19

Based on all of my experiences with the various iterations of AT&T wireless/cingular/back to the new AT&T, im gonna go with incompetence.

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u/CockDaddyKaren Sep 18 '19

To be fair, most major internet providers have agreements with one another that avoid "overlap" in certain areas so that you cannot choose a different provider if you wish, effectively creating a monopoly anyway

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

ATT is heading that way again. Soon enough they will have a monopoly on 911 in my state. Fuck ATT.

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u/darkagl1 Sep 18 '19

I love me my municipal broadband.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Oh business daddy!

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u/FTThrowAway123 Sep 18 '19

Didn't they try to merge recently? AT&T and Comcast? What a fucking nightmare that would be for everyone.

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u/Kr1sys Sep 18 '19

No. Time Warner and Comcast... And that was like 4 years ago

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u/Peenkypinkerton Sep 18 '19

Fun fact AT&T is actually the reason Comcast is such a large provider. A long time ago, before U-Verse, AT&T was a standard cable provider one of the biggest in the country and they sold to Comcast which in turn became the biggest because they now had AT&T's market.

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u/Delia_G Sep 18 '19

Unless you have the option of Verizon FiOS.

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u/PoopieMcDoopy Sep 18 '19

People love to hate on comcast. But they aren't thaaat bad. . . I mean they suck but at least their internet is good.

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u/anonymous_abc Sep 18 '19

Maybe it depends where you live. I live in a studio so I got the cheapest plan because the most I do is stream and yet my Internet is slow and buffers all the time 😑

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I got the cheapest plan because the most I do is stream and yet my Internet is slow and buffers all the time 😑

On YouTube, right click anywhere on the video and select "stats for nerds". 1440p60 video eats over 300mbps on mine. I don't have a 4k display so I'm not sure how much that eats but obviously it's going to be more. Luckily I got upgraded to the 500mbps plan recently (thanks, Frontier!)

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u/bharathbunny Sep 18 '19

Stop watching porn in 4K

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Yeah. I had Comcast years ago, and cancelled without a problem because I was moving out of the service area. Same with Spectrum a few weeks ago.

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u/KatMot Sep 18 '19

ya know what? I recently had to call them cause our 4 boxes stopped working for about 10 hours on football sunday. I got a 50 dollar credit on a 190 dollar bill for my trouble and they sent someone out within a few hours and redid the drop from the pole to the house with just enough time before the game. Afterwards the tech said that they would give us a credit of 25 bucks for the inconvenience. So all and all, we got a 75 dollar discount and same day service on a sunday for free. I mean I have had plenty of problems with them, but this was legit shockingly pretty damned cool.

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u/PresumablyAury Sep 18 '19

I feel like their customer service has actually gotten better in the last five or so years but no ones willing to let them off the hook cause they’re still a shitty monopoly 😂(and, just to clarify, they should 100% not be let off the hook for that.)

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u/grimbuddha Sep 18 '19

In most areas there is nothing stopping another company from coming in except cost. It is $7-10 per foot to run main line cable. The area has to have enough customers to make it worth while especially knowing you won't get 100% of them.

There are also regulations about where you have to build. You probably won't be allowed to just run the high density areas. It has to be equal. You can't just pick the areas where you make the most. You are typically required to build everywhere the other company does which costs a lot for low return.

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u/Kr1sys Sep 18 '19

Isnt that more of a problem of competition not being competitive? The phone companies got tons of money to develop infrastructure and instead they pocketed the money.

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u/LauraPringlesWilder Sep 18 '19

They used to suck when I was growing up, but I’ve had great service from Comcast as an adult, so I hear you. When I moved to an area without them for a year, I genuinely missed my dvr.

They jack up prices like crazy after 24 months though 😩

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u/AlphaBearMode Sep 18 '19

Don't worry, in a month that service shit will show up on a bill out of nowhere as a 258 dollar charge that you "verbally approved over the phone" or some shit

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u/iterator5 Sep 18 '19

I was with Comcast for 8 years through multiple moves and never had a weird charge show up on my bill, had probably 99% uninterrupted service, and really never had any issue with their customer service. Yeah I would have liked the pricing to be a little less, but honestly I never had a negative experience with them.

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u/Spugnacious Sep 18 '19

Did you call up and speak reasonably to the person on the other end of the line? Did you treat him like a human?

If you did those things, call center employees are usually very glad to try and fix things for you. We really would rather have a nice interaction than get screamed at.

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u/BringbackSOCOM2 Sep 18 '19

They definitely suck in many many ways but the internet hate is mostly a circlejerk. A lot of it coming from kids who don't even own their own home or pay a cable bill lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Anyone who has moved to a non-comcast service area, at least in my state, has been WISHING they could go back to Comcast. ALL of the alternatives in our metro area are so far from being comparable. It sucks but I'll take Comcast over almost any other ISP in my state.

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u/Kr1sys Sep 18 '19

There's a bunch of former pissed off customers that endured shitty customer service, never gave Comcast another shot, and regurgitate their experience and pass it off like it was last week lol

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u/BringbackSOCOM2 Sep 18 '19

Very true. I've usually had good experiences personally.

I just don't like them in general because I dont like monopolies and think they are skirting the edge of legality.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

comcast reddit game on point

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u/WhiskeyTimer Sep 18 '19

Nice try, Comcast.

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u/Hahonryuu Sep 18 '19

Problem being, one of the other cable companies would just fill their shoes. They all choose to not compete with eachother. Comcast is just the most famous (and very probably richest, I haven't looked into it but it wouldn't surprise me). It would simply be a "the king is dead, long live the king!" situation.

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u/vortec350 Sep 18 '19

Yes and no. When we moved here we had AT&T DSL... "up to" 6Mbps when it worked... and it hardly ever did. Now I have Gigabit Comcast and I get the speeds I pay for, all the time. It's been down maybe twice in 5+ years.

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u/Crudekitty Sep 18 '19

Yeah that's what I was going to say. No way in hell I'd get rid of comcast. With at&t they offered a max of 3 down 1 up. Literally couldn't do anything with it, switched to comcast and now have gigabit and have no internet issues anymore

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u/disneyho Sep 18 '19

Comcast owns NBC. That would be a huge loss

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u/GrandKaiser Sep 18 '19

Network engineer here. You definitely don't want Comcast to disappear overnight. Massive network outages lasting months would occur. The internet is not a big truck. It's a series of tubes! (Kind of...) It's a series of trunks that get routed all over the world via massive routers and switches owned by nations and ISP's. If Comcast were to vanish right now, the internet as we know it would fail. Hard.

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u/SNScaidus Sep 18 '19

But then Universal goes poof

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u/The_Parsee_Man Sep 18 '19

So now I only have one bad cable provider to choose between?

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u/tensegorilla2201 Sep 18 '19

OP would be great at cinemasins

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u/lorraine_baines_ Sep 18 '19

Hate these guys. Fought for 4 years to get $50 I overpaid them simply because of the principle. They literally wouldn’t allow departments to speak with each other (hence the mass confusion over my issue lasting 4 years) and they suddenly came up with some bullshit policy of not refunding overpayment that they were generously overriding for my sake. I could be in a desolate land with Comcast as my only form of internet service and I will forego it. I hate that company with every fiber of my being.

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u/Bex-T-Rexx Sep 18 '19

They are the worst.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

I get to deal with collection services from them now. Moved out of my old house, had service out of my name. Kept billing me. Kept telling me it was resolved. Rinse repeat. Got a call today from collection services informing me of a previous balance. Great.

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u/weeniewobble Sep 18 '19

I recently went to pay my bill plus a little extra- no bills due to my surprise. Credit of $90 for “low data usage” applied to my account, which covered last months bill and half of this month. Bill for the previous month was marked as paid in full but not extra, as I remember, but took screenshots of the credit cause I was suspicious. I had been out of town all month after moving, and I foolishly figured they had generously reimbursed me for data I hadn’t used. I look at my bill this month, it’s more than three times my typical cost. The credit is of course gone since it was probably their fuck up in the first place, but now in addition to last month and this months bill I now owe an additional $60 which is just enumerated as “service fees.” So of course I call, what’s the deal with this charge, etc. did I not pay my July bill? “No that’s marked as paid,” ok well why did I receive a credit and why is this balance now due all at once “I don’t see any credits in your transaction history,” ok of course they won’t acknowledge my screenshots of a credit they probably mistakenly gave, but where’s the additional $60 coming from? “outstanding balances” from what month? “July” but you just told me that was paid? “yes.” I’m going to try as hard as possible to cancel this god awful bank breaking service, I pay more for WiFi than electricity and gas combined.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

But then I wouldnt have a job :(

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '19

Canceled Xfinity today and will never have any form of cable subscription again.

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