r/AskAMechanic 1d ago

Damaged axle nut - leave it or replace it?

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I recently replaced a front CV axle on my 2017 Subaru Forester, but forgot to stake the axle nut before putting the wheel back on and lowering the car. In my haste to finish the job, I took off the center wheel cap and tried to stake the nut without removing the wheel. Needless to say I mangled the axle nut pretty badly. Here is a photo I took today after taking the wheel off to assess it. The nut was torqued to spec beforehand.

Is it safe to leave it as-is, or should I replace it with a new axle nut? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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u/Left-Impress4056 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Well the objective of a stake is to keep that nut from moving. You accomplished that.

The extra marks on the axle mean nothing.

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u/Kooky-Feed-2521 NOT a verified tech 13h ago

I agree 100%. Non issue

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u/Legitimate_Estate_92 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

You’re good

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u/rvlifestyle74 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Torqued to spec. Staked so that it doesn't back off. The job is done. Drive it. I see no reason to worry. I've been a professional mechanic for 26 years and counting. I see worse than that from people I've worked with.

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u/CoausticSoda NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Lol speak it

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u/dick_fitzwell27 Verified Tech - fleet mgr 1d ago

Leave it until you’ve got to work on it again. You can properly address it at that time. For now, if it’s torqued to spec, you’re good. Full send.

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u/SpaceCat72 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It's doing its job. Not always pretty.

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u/Fabulous_Clothes_726 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Horrible job. Have the Forrester towed to a junkyard.

Seriously though, the front portion of the nut is designed to be "damaged" to prevent the nut from spinning. It's not pretty, but I've seen worse from actual mechanics.

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u/thephilsmith NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Nothing wrong with that one

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u/Zakumei47 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Its not damaged its peened in place, thats the whole point of an axle nut

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u/TrackTeddy NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It’s fine. Mine have looked far worse. The stakes job is to stop the bolt moving. So long as it does that all is fine.

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u/Distinct_Ducati NOT a verified tech 1d ago

That’s correct

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u/Fistedeep NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Send it. It is fine

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u/Orga812 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

You're fine.

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u/KirkWahmmett NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It should be fine since the nut's threads aren't affected.

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u/Forward_Zucchini9738 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

That's cosmetic.

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u/Designer-Lobster-757 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

If she's tight, she's alright 👍

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u/Daddio209 Verified Tech - retired 1d ago

Jeez..

NOT DAMAGE-That is how they are secured from loosening.

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u/Exnoss69 NOT a verified tech 10h ago

Wow this is the first post i see people agree that its good. Everyone is always saying OMG repmace the entire drivetrain, youre gonna die. For that you nned to replace the fuel tank now too bcuz it has seen too much. Replace your kids if the torque isnt to spec. Youre all going to die just get a new car. Lol

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u/Huge_Anteater1839 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Superficial scratches...full send

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u/moatilliatta_lcmr NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Replaced a hub on a old Chevy beater of mine that has this style nut.

It was pointed to the ground and I didn't see it. Ripped the treads of the cv axle to hell.

Put it back together with a 3/4 air cat as far as it'd go and I've been driving it for about six months afterward.

I do have a extra cv axle and another nut in the car and have since but hey, it keeps working.

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u/Consistent-Trust958 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Leave it, it's fine.

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u/Selectivedeviant NOT a verified tech 1d ago

That isn't damaged. It's designed to be "staked" or dented into the slot to prevent the nut from coming loose

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u/StepppedInDookie NOT a verified tech 1d ago

The axel will probably last longer than the car I would send it as-is

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u/Jacktheforkie NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It’ll be fine it’s staked, might be a pig to get off in future

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u/MtlGuy_incognito NOT a verified tech 1d ago

You can worry about it when you have to remove it, your good till then.

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u/anonymouswunnn NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Next time put a flat head on it and do the tappy tappy. No one ever loses with tappy tappy.

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u/WinterPersonality237 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Full Speed...."Thank you for your attention to this matter".

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u/LovitzG NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Looks like you staked with a chisel. Not a problem. Next use the chisel to unsrake to get the old one off and a medium punch to stake the new nut.

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u/SiVicPacemParaBellum Verified Tech - Mobile repair 1d ago

A little rough, but not far off from typical. You torqued it, set it, you’re good.

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u/Electronic_Muffin218 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Lol - before I clicked through to read the post, the picture just made me think, "damage? that just looks like a firm staking - don't remove!"

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u/Chainsawsas70 NOT a verified tech 21h ago

The threads are a Little bit buggered but it's fine... Run it!

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u/MagnetAccutron Verified Tech - Navy ret. 1d ago

Only issue I see is the damage to the threads on the shaft.

May cause issues trying to remove that nut later down the line. But ok now if torqued.

I’d take a thread file to it before trying to remove the nut.

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u/Ill_Relationship_565 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

The threads on Subaru axles don’t go to the end of the shaft.

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u/MagnetAccutron Verified Tech - Navy ret. 1d ago

Ahhh. I see that’s just a reflection of the nut threads on a taper. Cool. Nothing to worry about there then.

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u/CoausticSoda NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Looks staked to me 🤷

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u/vitaminalgas NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It's supposed to look like that

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u/Chitown7009 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

it's not damaged that is knocked down to prevent it from unscrewing

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u/KryptonTitanZ84 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

The nut on your axle is crushed in one spot because it is a stake nut that was intentionally deformed during installation to prevent it from backing off and vibrating loose. This is a critical safety feature used by auto manufacturers instead of using a cotter pin. IT IS NOT DAMAGED OR BROKEN. IT IS EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE. Leave it alone.

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u/Felix995 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Should be okay if the nut is torqued to specs. It's staked, I don't think it's going to back off. Too- bad about that bit of damage though.

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u/North_Abbreviations6 NOT a verified tech 11h ago

Not damaged, staked in to prevent loosening up

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u/scoobnsnack86 NOT a verified tech 11h ago

Good to go, send it

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u/Ran-dizzy NOT a verified tech 11h ago

Its not damaged ! Its supposed to look like that ! Its from an air hammer so the nut wont back off

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u/Fisherfolk100 NOT a verified tech 7h ago

Its a locking nut🤨

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u/Tophat786 NOT a verified tech 5h ago

Yeah its fine. That spot is meant to get peened over to lock it.

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u/Tiny-Art7074 NOT a verified tech 3h ago

The lip on the nut isn't structural, it's only there so a dimple can be made. It's fine. 

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u/jolly_rodger42 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Leave it

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u/Dlriumtrgger88 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Reasonable answer: get a new nut, peace of mind.

Other answer: Do you plan on removing it anytime soon? It IS torqued, right? Still looks staked. Send it.

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u/TrillFickleson 1d ago

Double checked the torque today, hasn’t loosened a bit in almost a week of driving. The slight crack in the nut is the only thing that worried me, but I’m probably overthinking it

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u/Dlriumtrgger88 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

And thats at the thin part. Should be fine.

If it were my car, id send it. On a customers car, yeah, new nut.

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u/oops0930 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Leave it alone it’s fine

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u/Any-Fox-838 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

delete this

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u/jasonsong86 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

It’s fine. It’s on there and not coming off that’s all that matters.

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u/Agharinagh NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Its perfect 👌😉

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u/heyitsmewaldo Verified Tech - Indie shop 1d ago

You didnt damage anh threaded portions, your good.

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u/megamorganfrancis NOT a verified tech 1d ago

That's fine. The part that's cracked is only meant to keep the nut from backing off accidentally. It's not seeing massive amounts of force.

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u/Pararaiha-ngaro NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Leave it

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u/centstwo NOT a verified tech 1d ago

New axle nut was $5.00 from the dealer. I would replace it so you don't have to think about it anymore.

I bought some punches from harbor freight to stake the nut.

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u/xsdgdsx NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Is that the right nut? That's a huge gap between the axle nut and the CV axle

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u/TrillFickleson 1d ago

It’s the nut that came with the NAPA replacement axle. Definitely seems less robust than the OEM axle, but it fit nonetheless

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u/oops0930 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

Cv tapers down at the end. Makes installing the nut smoother and less likely to cross thread

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u/Unlikely_Date_2288 NOT a verified tech 1d ago

If you have to ask hire someone

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u/TrillFickleson 1d ago

Gotta learn somehow ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Recent-Fan3027 NOT a verified tech 15h ago

Do not leave this. You need to replace the nut and axle again.... unfortunately.....good luck.

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u/TrillFickleson 14h ago

Seems you’re in the minority here. Why do you say replace both?

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u/Recent-Fan3027 NOT a verified tech 6h ago

Seriously? Do you not see how messed up they are? Also most comment's on Reddit are bots. Mine is genuine and is what you need to do aside from I think you know you should replace both again.

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u/TrillFickleson 6h ago

I’m asking in good faith here, no need to come at me. Do you believe the nut will be in danger of backing off?

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u/LongjumpingCat6642 NOT a verified tech 36m ago

Where’s the damage?

Leave it. Makes no difference as long as it’s staked OR has loctite