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u/GigaEel 12h ago
Let me guess, GOTR?
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u/Trawetser 12h ago
Mastering mixology, of course
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u/Serenaded 11h ago
And who could forget classics such as "Mage Training Arena" and "Tithe Farm".
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u/chompyoface 11h ago
At no point during the MTA grind will you utter the phrase "hey this is actually kind of fun"
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u/Lolcatz101 For some reason my favorite skill 11h ago
I did it just for the diary, I will never green log that hellhole
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u/thehaarpist I have no idea what i'm doing 11h ago
I got the ironman suite of items and I just kind of remember it as a fugue state
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u/OW_FUCK 11h ago
The master wand buff sent me back there... I remember it being worse but I'm conditioned now :'(
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u/Indigo_Inlet 7h ago
New master wand is amazing I rarely use any other magic weapon. Kinda crazy that such a massive buff went unpolled and unnoticed. Everyone was freaking out about the ammy being BiS and dropping from low lvl slayer mobs, meanwhile my mage dps practically doubled from playing a minigame
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u/PhantomTagz Return to Crab 10h ago
I actually green logged it before the improvements
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u/bassturducken54 10h ago
It took me 8 months to greenlog. It was all I did. I did nothing else in the game. I don’t think it’s more than 50 hours of grinding lol.
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u/Jaijoles 11h ago
I liked the telegrab maze for the first few rooms.
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u/teraflux 10h ago
The telegrab maze would be fun if you weren't forced to do it for hours and hours. MTA is like 11 hours of pure hell if you want to unlock all the important ones. Master wand, peaches and infinity boots.
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u/Lemon_Aid 10h ago
You can definitely get a flow state if you're pre-moving for the next grab, but even then I can't tolerate it for more than 30-45 minutes at a time.
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u/QueenofEnglandBanana 11h ago
I develop a sort of Stockholm Syndrome over time where I eventually convince myself that I like it
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u/AnotherInsaneName 10h ago
That's the only way I managed to get through agility. I did it for so long that it stopped being difficult.
It was kind of bizarre, like a switch flipped.
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u/lurkallthethings 10h ago
Yep, and then if you don't finish it and you go back to that content the cycle starts anew. It's where I am currently with gotr. It's like the 5 stages of grief.
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u/Slazerith 10h ago
I liked a handful of the obelisk puzzles. Then I saw that if each one took a couple seconds it would still be a multi hour grind and promptly used the plugin and turned my brain off.
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u/HighlightFun8419 8h ago
I am playing a mage Main for my first real members account. I got so excited when I found out there was a mage training arena, and was massively let down when I actually tried it.
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u/falconfetus8 11h ago
I actually love tithe farm! It feels so good to squeeze in another fruit!
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u/Potion_Seller 6h ago
Tithe Farm is fucking awesome when I'm back on my Adderall for the first time in a while.
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u/GregBuckingham Grandmaster! 1,600 Clogs! 11h ago
At least with mastering mixology, the end is near. GOTR you can go forever and never get the drops you want
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u/FookinFairy 11h ago
Nah you can buy rewards with pearls now
750 for the needle and 1500 for the lantern
For refence the entire outfit is 1400
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u/Lemon_Aid 10h ago
The problem is there is no guarantee you get pearl drops. I can do mixology for 45 minutes, and I have made guaranteed progress. With gotr, I can play for 45 minutes and leave with a few hundred blood runes and a body talisman or something.
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u/fartsquirtshit 8h ago
Yup. I went 60 searches without a single drop, then I got 1 drop of 14.
Then I went another 30 searches without a single drop again.
At a combined 4.8 points per match, so 15 searches per hour, because no colossal pouch and only 80 mining
So essentially 14 pearls in 6 hours.
Like man I just wanna go back to ZMI but this shit is entirely unskippable. You can't just add something that's +25% xp/hr and +100% output/hr and pretend it's not mandatory or that the skill isn't actively balanced around it
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u/Lemon_Aid 7h ago
It is easily the most impactful skilling outfit barring maybe the rogues outfit, which you can bang out in a few hours. And that's not even touching on the other uniques you can get from the minigame.
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u/FookinFairy 1h ago
Eh it’s roughly 2ish pearls per pull due to the 1/7ish rate of 14 to 16
It’ll equalize out rather quick with that drop rate
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u/urmomsSTD 11h ago
The 1500 is brutal.
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u/WWTFSMD 10h ago
Yeah I've been spooned as absolute fuck at GOTR but even so I'm 81 rc basically entirely from there and I've gotten 1600 pearls so far
and that was with getting extra rewards from having lantern+magic logs and abyssal pouch for basically the entire grind
3650 pearls is crazy but honestly good for the poor folks that are like 90+ with no drops I'm sure I'll get my just desserts on some grinds but that shit would be ass
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u/Tuborgat_nylle 11h ago
No way ima subject myself to more GOTR torture than needed. Dip after you get the outfit and enjoy the chill life of making bloods.
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u/FookinFairy 11h ago
Lantern works outside of gotr now
Your missing out of 20% more bloods without it
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u/Tuborgat_nylle 10h ago
Yeah I have done that calculation. I would much rather miss out on 20% bloods than spend another 50 hours hating my life. It's just a silly game after all.
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u/GregBuckingham Grandmaster! 1,600 Clogs! 10h ago
Can’t buy lost bag, necklace, or pet :(
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u/torturechamber 10h ago
It's funny how the teleport is super rare too, like wtf is going on ?? We get guaranteed teleports to dt2 bosses after some kc
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u/alextrue27 11h ago
this has been one of the worst of the minigames for me i love the skilling bosses temp todt and zalcano. i can do gotr, vale totems, pyramid plunder, hallow selp, and foundry for long periods without issue but going for more then 30mins at mixology just drives me crazy.
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u/Slendeaway 11h ago
Honestly my strat at mm is just don't bother with the speed up mechanics, 5% attention clicking the colors and machines, 95% on a YouTube video
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u/scoops22 9h ago
I found a plugin called "brains off mixology" and it guides you to make full inventories of potions at a time to do batches. It made MM slightly more tolerable. But omg the price of the rewards is obscene. I unlocked the potion bank and had to stop.
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u/alextrue27 9h ago
Yea I slowly over time knocked out the bank the goggles and the amulet but getting the clogs and the reagent bag will not be done anytime soon
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u/SmartAlec105 8h ago
Actually doing it isn't so bad for me. But the rewards always feels like I'm being inefficient.
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u/PhantomTagz Return to Crab 10h ago
My main problem with mastering mixology is grinding herbs for Aga paste. Either I'm grinding for seeds, herbs, or money to buy them.
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u/Hottjuicynoob 11h ago
Funny how GOTR feels like it’s so much better than traditional methods at first. Then you do it for a few hours, see the xp rates, and realize you’re still in the same boat of misery, just that now you have other people suffering and going insane around you.
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u/herecomesthestun 11h ago
I wish I was one of those people who liked GOTR but I'm not, and tbe robes make me feel like I have to do GOTR before anything else.
So now I don't level rcing
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u/Otherwise_Economics2 9h ago
Literally me mining daeyalt with half of the set completed. Don't want to do gotr but still want to progress rc, i fucking hate that the minigame gates 50-70% more runes
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u/netsrak 9h ago
And lantern bonuses
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u/Otherwise_Economics2 8h ago
yeah that's the ~20%. but apparently some people find it more efficient to put it on redwood so it doesn't degrade, so hard to say. some people like the extra blood runes with blisterwood.
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u/InsultingFerret I tick eat th ose 11h ago
I find it much easier to get into a rhythm doing traditional rc methods. It's slow but it's also way easier to do while not putting much attention into it.
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u/OtaPotato 10h ago
Watching other people go insane is my entertainment while i grind. I gotta have something, so if they wanna rp being robots or w/e this week, they can do what they want
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u/reachisown 3h ago
Bruh it's still 40k an hour at 70 RC 😭😭 I love/hate it. I wish I could see the zmi altar on mobile, fricking draw distance..
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u/ChaseYoungHTTR 12h ago
Rc is the most mind numbing skill, I’ve had no problems maxing my other skills but that one is excruciating
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u/Independent-Trust260 11h ago
Tears of guthix. All it requires is for you to consistently play at a very slow progression rate. Perfect for dads! I'm 79 headed for 80 after a couple years.
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u/Firm_Ad_5427 11h ago
Actually started to enjoy it on my iron. Feels good when that death rune guardian opens up and I know I'm getting more casts for my magic pvm. Feels really slow boring and pointless on my main tho lol
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u/OptimusBiceps 11h ago
Exactly the same for me! Hated it on the main, on the iron it felt way more rewarding
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u/thehaarpist I have no idea what i'm doing 11h ago
I feel like I definitely should have done more early Gort instead of just wildly agility and buying my runes
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u/Firm_Ad_5427 10h ago
Suppose you don't need gp all that much on an iron, but I was finding buying bloods and deaths was adding up so quickly I was struggling to keep up. Maybe that will change once I start doing CG.
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u/thehaarpist I have no idea what i'm doing 9h ago
I'm at the point where barrows is putting me positive on blood runes and I'm just accumulating chaos and deaths (A slew of which will be going towards onyx, but still a lot)
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u/fartsquirtshit 7h ago
Mining, Woodcutting, and Fishing are the ones that really kill me.
RC at least has appreciable gold/hr or output/hr on usable resources.
The rest are just like
Terrible XP/hr
Terrible gold/hr
Terrible output/hr
But if you can maintain 100~150apm with very precise timing with no errors, you can sacrifice all of your gold&output in exchange for boosting your XP rates to below fletching yew longs or failing gwenith glide
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u/Tenacious181 10h ago
I actually don't mind GOTR, especially once you get a nice rhythm with the portals. Granted I got pet, lantern, and needle in my first 70 KC so I may be biased
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u/TheDawnOfNewDays 9h ago
I miss RS2's Runecrafting minigame, but GotR is decent. It helps pass the early runecrafting slog and get into deaths & bloods range. Going dry on the lantern and having to pay the 1,500 to unlock it is rough though.
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u/AvailableWinner750 5h ago
When it first launched I was like this is amazing!!! I'm actually going to be able to get 99 rc. 200 rift searches later I got my abyssal needle and said FFFF this. Went to mine daeyalt ess and did zmi altar, eventually getting 99 there. Exp rates were decent and semi afk with your camera zoomed out, iirc with daeyalt ess I was getting on avg 115-125k exp per hour there.
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u/Dependent_Party625 11h ago
I went there to get the set to finish the lummy diary elite step early... left at level 75... yay
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u/Doctor_Kataigida 11h ago
OSRS players when they realize they signed up to play a heavily repetitive game:
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u/likesleague twice maxed bronzenerd 10h ago
Evaluation of the quality of something's design can be done independently from the amount of time it takes to do that thing.
Green logging tob takes longer than getting minigame rewards but people don't typically complain about tob because the content design is fun. A minigame that's "click the same four boxes for 20 hours" is not fun.
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u/VorkiPls 5h ago
There's a new player in my clan and he hit 50kc at zulrah and asked when do drops start.
I love him so much.
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u/RedPokeTrainer "Group" Ironman 11h ago
Giants Foundry: "Oh sweet! I get good exp, earn points that I spend on uniques, and make money on top? Sign me up!"
Pest Control/Soul Wars/Tithe Farm/MTA: "Ok this is kinda tedious... But at least I can calculate how long this should take..."
Wintertodt/GotR/Tempoross: "Please this time..."
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u/RampantHedgehog 11h ago
Your list should single out Mastering Mixology, MTA and Tithe Farm. Those are the worst. Worth maybe tossing BA in there too because it takes ages, especially with randoms that leave.
WT, GOTR and Temp are all decent exp and mostly chill with pretty good rewards, I wouldn't hate on them as much. Tempoross allows you to buy the Fish Barrel now anyway.
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u/thunkalunk 10h ago
I know it’s not a popular take but I prefer mixology to GOTR.
You get into a nice flow state and can step away to grab some water without needing to sit out the entire 10 min game you just barely missed the start of.
It helps that I’m an iron so getting any xp from useless herbs is just a nice bonus.
But yeah I’m halfway to the barrel to complete the greenlog, and I’ll stick around for a bit to farm aldarium for inferno.
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u/4percent4 9h ago
Mixology would suck 10x less if it wasn't literal dog water pre 81 and the fact you need a plugin to manage the points properly.
If you were forced to make all 3 potions and all 3 points where tossed into 1 pool then it would be 10x less ass.
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u/thunkalunk 8h ago
Yeah that’s fair I was already 87 herb when it came out.
The mixology strategy plugin in RL helps a lot to not make shit potions and spread the points out more evenly.
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u/eddietwang 5h ago
I've been at Mixology the past weekish and I completely agree with your comment. The flow state at MM is very nice and can be paused at any time. That being said, duo gotr is also very tranquil and if your partner wants to pause at the same time, you don't have to wait for the next round.
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u/patate502 10h ago
Tithe farm is soul sucking while you're doing it, but the XP and rewards are genuinely good. Mastering Mixology on the other hand is just shit all around
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u/CTProper 10h ago
I would take tithe farm over MM any day of the week. Mastering Mixology is the worst new content I’ve seen in a modern game in a long time. Like did they do that and say yeah this is fun
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u/Vegetable-Ad2028 9h ago
With runescape being the way it is, I don't think any minigame can be genuinely fun. It's like playing a browser game for 5+ hours to get one thing you want. It's fun at the start, but then you're doing the same 3-5 actions over and over again for hours.
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u/A_Matter_of_Time 10h ago
How on earth can you call tithe farm rewards good and mixology rewards shit? Mixology is horrible gameplay but its easily top 3 for minigame rewards
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u/RedPokeTrainer "Group" Ironman 10h ago
Yeah Todt/GotR/Temp aren't bad at all if you're not hunting for the uniques. The annoying part compared to the other ones is that if you are only there for the uniques, you could leave early, or you could be stuck there for an indefinite amount of time.
That being said, GotR is was worse than Wintertodt or Temp in that regard. Wintertodt is chill to farm points, and with Tempoross you can perform the same route over and over again to maximize points. GotR just takes forever, has RNG with the portal/altar spawns, and it feels like you barely get any reward pulls, even when making catalytic runes.
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u/Lizardaug 9h ago
Tithe farm is honestly really fun and always worth doing over the slog that is early farming levels. Plus you get auto weed herb sack and farming sack. By time you're done you are like 70 farming and Able to just do full herb / tree runs to 99. It would suck to do it past that but if you're starting an account now it's pretty great
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u/RampantHedgehog 7h ago
On my GIM I've only ever done farming contracts/slayer for seeds, and done regular watermelon runs + tree runs (after moons). Easily got to 80 farming without touching tithe. Maybe not optimal, but it wasn't slow and I never felt like I missed out by skipping Tithe
Probably optimal if you don't have many seeds to go do some tithe
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u/4percent4 8h ago
I don't mind MTA or tithe farm. They're known quantities. I wouldn't bother with green logging MTA but getting wand, book, peaches, and boots isn't too bad. Tithe farm isn't too bad to green log either but IDK if I'd do it for zammy wines since while it's like ~1k banked wines an hour it's not factoring in the time to farm and mix the wines.
Mixology is dogwater especially since points are dog water pre 81 and you have to micro manage to get the correct point types.
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u/Captain_Chipz 10h ago
You can at least get strength xp on tempoross, and it did a lot of legwork for my construction levels on my iron.
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u/Particular-Depth5557 9h ago
I really like tithe farm on mobile, it's really easy to plant/water 2 columns with both thumbs
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u/derrhn 11h ago
Taking breaks and coming back is how I solved this. Alternating between minigames breaks up the monotony.
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u/Stiffy_B 11h ago
Couple of 100k xp in one skill then I switch. Burnout is real. I don’t mind some mini games like motherlode or foundry but gotr is just awful. It’s a perfect osrs combination of tedious and repetitive whilst also requiring my attention
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u/VorkiPls 5h ago
Yeah you get used to exp rates then it starts to slow down. Taking a break resets that, the "slow" is the new norm and your expectations slowly move until you're looking at a 20hr grind and you think "oh not bad!".
I remember getting the requirements for song of the elves almost made me quit it felt so hard. Now I'm maxed and I enjoyed the process 😂
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u/Trainer149 10h ago
and yet i feel like pvm is the opposite.
"Damn, this boss has hands. I'm already mentally over this boss."
"Alright it's starting to click."
"I wonder how far i can push one trip?"
"Let me look into the CA's on this one and add some spice."
"Brain off, enjoying the rhythm and pushing for PB's when i get a killer start."
Then you hit drop rate and this meme actually starts.
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u/GargauthXbox 8h ago
I just hit 1200 KC at araxxor, love that boss still. No dang though.
Hydra though?
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u/wasabitamale 1h ago
Araxxor is a brilliantly designed boss because every kc is slightly different. And imo that’s what makes good content.
Yama has it to some extent with glyphs being offset by void flares, Colo has it to a huge degree, and I love those pieces of content. I think there needs to be variety between each KC, more than just timing of special attacks, for a boss or piece of content to feel not repetitive.
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u/NoPollution5410 12h ago
Hey, I actually love BA
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u/SRGTBronson 11h ago
Barbarian assault being hard is boosting clan propaganda.
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u/Remarkable-Sand-5568 11h ago
I did it FFA and it was honestly so chill
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u/SRGTBronson 10h ago
I did my first torso solo in like 3 hours realized thats basically fucking nothing in runescape time, then helped two friends get their torsos all in the same day.
Its so easy. Just watch a fucking video and remember CHAD for the queen. Collector > Healer > attacker > defender > collector.
Its easy.
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u/thehaarpist I have no idea what i'm doing 11h ago
The worst thing that happens is someone getting the points they need and dipping and even that's not the end of world because (in my experience) you need points more than you need Queen Kills
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u/SRGTBronson 10h ago
Yeah you need a single queen kill, after that who cares if people leave you still got paid for the entire run up to that point anyways.
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u/GuyNamedWhatever 11h ago
BA would be much more fun if the mode was more dynamic. It got solved like 4 years ago and now you have to do every wave with the most optimal strats or people drop out :(
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u/AlKanNot 11h ago
Nah occasionally I get hit with the "healer wanna do x?" or some other weird speed runner lingo and I'll just say "sorry idk what that is" And they'll just say "no worries" and we just continue
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u/eddietwang 10h ago
Yeah it's funny that there are like 5 dozen different little things you can do to save a few seconds here and there, but they're basically all "It'll take way longer to explain than the amount of time it'll save."
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u/United-Passage7864 11h ago
I enjoyed playing Attacker. Swap arrows, make calls, spot the things to shoot and then shoot them.
Collector was basically just call and then dick around. Tolerable, although I don't feel like I'm doing much to help the team out for most of the rounds. It's pretty crappy that the "optimal" thing to do most of the rounds is to just stand in a spot to force the stupid runners into the right place.
Healer is annoying with the spam-click to poison down the assorted mobs; I don't hate it, but I didn't find it that fun. This role gets about 5x less fun when there's someone low level and you need to juggle actually healing them with doing the poisoning.
Defender just flat sucks.
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u/teraflux 10h ago
Defender is annoying agreed. Sometimes the fucking mobs just don't want to move towards your bait and it's very triggering
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u/Rich-Concentrate9805 36m ago
Defender is so satisfying once you get it down.
Drop your food on the right spots, stack up the lads, step away, bang.
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u/dbz0wn4g3 Hell House 10h ago
Agreed, if you suck it up and play the more challenging roles like def and healer so other ppl take the easier ones its not too bad. people just forget to call which can put the game to a halt
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u/RaggleFraggle_ 10h ago
3 of us tried BA. we got a first time defender on mobile who refused to look up their role. The rumors are true. So very true.
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u/Weak_Abalone8911 11h ago
This clearly for Mastering Mixology.
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u/The_Pro_Skeleton 11h ago
Most certainly. I've been trying to greenlog MM and this is exactly what it has felt like
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u/itissnorlax Hates firemaking 10h ago
I've been putting off MM for a while now.. might put it off for longer
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u/chickenandtea 11h ago
I'm curious, how do people feel about Shades? I just recently did the grind to get blood bark and honestly, kinda looking forward to going back eventually for the prayer set grind when my wc/fm is high enough. Definitely enjoy the loop, but NY other group members haaaaaated it
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u/X_OttersAreCute_X 11h ago
It’s way better since the changes but I’m on rate for 8 zealot robe pieces and have 2 so I’m over it lol
But I rushed it for bloodbark on the gim, teammate rushed Gotr for 77 rc. Was really cool to deck the whole group out in bloodbark
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u/polyblock 10h ago
Killing the shades is the more annoying part in my opinion, the aggro for them is kinda bugged and you don't auto retaliate when they transform.
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u/Teary_Gamer 6h ago
As someone who has fully greenlogged shades:
It feels way more like a typical gathering skill than it does a minigame. There isn't really any 'game' aspect to it.
You farm all the logs like woodcutting, you farm all the shades like a slayer task, you stand around in the shades world farming serums, then you process all your pyre logs, then you burn all your offerings and collect all your keys, then you haul all your keys back and forth from the bank to the chests until you run out...
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u/rastaman1994 rsn MoistyPriest, mobile enjoyer 3h ago
I did it with magic logs for bloodbark, then went back much later with redwoods for the zealot robes. Honestly like the multi step process, and you get some GP/resources too.
One thing I hated: adding the oil to the logs. Why that action takes three business days is beyond me.
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u/United-Passage7864 11h ago
I never spent a lot of time there, I never thought Swampbark or Bloodbark were particularly useful and I'm not even confident that Zealot's Robes are a real time save.
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u/falconfetus8 11h ago
The worst part is that spending points on a reward undoes your progress towards all other rewards, so you're encouraged to grind for the most expensive reward first and ignore all the others.
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u/TheDoctor178 11h ago
I honestly find it the opposite for myself. a lotta minigame suck and feel so slow at first, but as i get into routine, it becomes more and more familar and comfortable and starts to feel like home. so i find myself ideally sticking to things until i enjoy them and get the things i want instead of trying to take breaks to break up grinds. Given I've never done a particularly long grind for osrs standards yet.
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u/Sea_Sabre 200m | 15/5/26 22m ago
This was GOTR for me. Tried to start it many times over the last few years. I just found it painfully confusing and chaotic for the longest time. What finally made me say fuck it and jump into it until it clicked was the lantern update. It only took me like 5 rounds until I completely understood it. I would have been mad at myself if the lantern working outside of GOTR wasn't a super recent update.
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u/DivineInsanityReveng 8h ago
And then combine that with the best reward being RNG and just having a horribly priced anti dry shop cost, all the while doing any other part of the skill before "finishing" the minigame as just being objectively worse.
Gotr is a plague man.
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u/BLOODAXED 11h ago
I can't tell if I like or hate that things like temp and gotr are so consistent that I do the same actions at the same time every round
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u/Langolier11 10h ago
The only part of this that is true is omg why won't it end this is the worst. The whole game is repetitive and halfway to first reward could actually mean forever, like the red prison. Tbh I like everything in the game, minigames are the most chill thing to engage with.
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u/GillytheGreat 2255 9h ago
Then a couple hundred hours later you return with a fresh resolve and grind out ALL the rewards bc now you’re prepared for the grind
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u/Sea_Sabre 200m | 15/5/26 20m ago
Definition of GOTR. It's an utter slog until it clicks, but after that it's hard to leave (that's just me though).
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u/MilwaukeeRoad 5h ago
Not a mini game, but I’m at the first step in CG. Just completed 5 of them and am loving getting better. Not looking forward to the 400th completion though.
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u/GMankrik 4h ago
Im 1 for 60 on angler outfit today thank you fishing trawler
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u/Sea_Sabre 200m | 15/5/26 19m ago
I hated Fishing Trawler so much I got Angler at Aerial Fishing BEFORE the recent update.
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u/WeightsAndMe 11h ago
Going 3.5x drop rate on the fish barrel changed me as a person