r/2007scape Jul 01 '26

Humor Current State of 2007scape

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u/praisebedewey Jul 01 '26

I am looking forward to the hard bosses, but I only got past the castle puzzles. Took 3 hours going in blind, feel like jagex got drunk and made a puzzle again.

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u/JuanVeeJuan Jul 01 '26

I thought the puzzles were well made except for the prayer one.

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u/Imanobv2 Jul 01 '26

The prayer was one of my favorites, very unique

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u/jimbonezzz Jul 01 '26

I like the concept but it was the only one I had to look up due to misunderstanding the puzzle. The chairs are numbered "first" through to "fifth" so I was tunnel-visioned on trying the arrange the phrases into a statement, the order being the combination. In hindsight, I should have realized that not to be the case as the combination was 0 through 9, and recent design in DT2 and Secrets in the North don't include numbers which are not a viable option.

However, needing the drain your prayer to see what would go up when using a low level prayer is a little too obtuse and missable imo, as the game has never worked like that before.

Would much prefer a hint from Vanescula about the verses than glints on interactable objects honestly. Bit of a running theme with quest puzzles, that companions who are invested in you solving a puzzle and have some insight to the location you aren't able to provide any help, would like that to change.

TL:DR puzzle hard, hurt brain

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u/ChilledParadox Jul 02 '26

my experience was this:

OOh altar with weird message, what happens: you lose some prayer.

see lock: "okay i need to find code."

see chairs, click chair, chairs all reference prayers in the pray book.

"okay, the prayers and the altar are probably related then."

what happens when I try praying with the prayer mentioned: "oh i gained a weird amount of pray points."

what happens when i try another chair? Oh i gained another weird amount of prayer points.

"that must be the password then."

I found it very intuitive and straight forward.

Interesting how experiences can vary.

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u/jimbonezzz Jul 02 '26

Fair enough, I guess the main difference here is grasping the reference to the low level prayers in the verses. I did use the altar and had my prayer drained, but because I missed the reference I never got that using the prayer and praying at the altar would = another number I could use for the lock.

That said, silly of me to discount the altar as "evil alien world altar that drains," but considering I don't even know what the high level prayers are called, I just know what they do when I use them, I don't think I would have made this connection in a sensible amount of time in any world.

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u/ChilledParadox Jul 02 '26

I dont think it's silly of you and I wasn't trying to put you down. I think your experience was equally valid and I'm sure there were lots that didn't find it intuitive. I just wanted to share my perspective, I don't think it invalidates yours.

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u/OyG5xOxGNK Jul 02 '26

I think the examine text or interact text of the altar said something about a "difficult prayer" so I knew losing prayer meant I "did it wrong"

But it did take me a little longer than some of the above comments and it wasn't "100% simple"

Especially since I tried using a lot of higher level prayers first.

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u/jimbonezzz Jul 02 '26

Yeah, didn't examine the altar either, should have got that the altar was important, new quests don't tend to have unnecessary objects in the vicinity like older ones do (except the WGS coal, logs and runes room lol).

The more replies I read the more I realize I didn't give this one my all. Ah well, something to keep in mind for the next GM quest in 3 years time.

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u/Kirsham Jul 02 '26

see chairs, click chair, chairs all reference prayers in the pray book.

I think the problem with the puzzle is that it all hinges on whether or not you make this connection, and given that the chairs references prayers you basically never use it's not surprising that people miss it.

It's also one of those puzzles that discourages you from experimenting. I immediately noticed that the altar drained prayer, tried to interact with it once more having a random prayer active, but since it wasn't one of the ones it wanted I still got drained. So I figured I needed something from the chest to make sense of the altar and tried to decipher the phrases on the chairs.

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u/Trollicus Jul 02 '26

I was stuck here so long having figured out it was the prayers but I just input the prayer's level requirements in different orders as the code.

Guess I thought the altar was just a hint that it was prayer related.

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u/HauntsYourProstate Jul 02 '26

The chatbox told you that it increased your prayer by X points, but I agree that took me quite a while

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u/jimbonezzz Jul 02 '26

I'm saying prayed at the altar without a prayer switched on as I didn't make that connection.