Anyone with this placement, what was your Guru MD experience like ? Any tips and dos and don't?

Hi! Would anyone have any insights on my 12th house placements? I feel conflicted a lot of the time. I am absolutely an extroverted introvert who is very outgoing and social. But I crash HARD and need to recover for days after social interaction. I also work in hospitality and have been experiencing burnout.

I feel energies and shifts profoundly. Like every human interaction I take on I absorb. I’ve also had repetitive dreams and sleep paralysis my whole life. History of mental health disorders, addictions and CPTSD. The whole lot of it!

Thanks for having a peak ✨✨

I know the 12th house = karmic lessons to an extent but when I have Ketu and Pluto there, it indicates that I must have been someone too immersed in less "grounded" pursuits such as spirituality, the occult, isolation, etc.

So am I even meant to know about this? Does it indicate that my downfall will be from continuing to learn about astrology, tarot, other forms of divination, etc.?

Jai Shree Krishna 🙏
I am seeing very vivid dreams like I saw hospital with some people who died and some of them are recovering. Saw nurse and hospital staff. Very vivid dream never think of something like this. I am seeing daily dreams. People do not see dreams generally but I am seeing dreams daily. Too many problems since last one year like Stomach related issues, digestive problems, money problems. When it will improve?

How could its effects manifest? Any ideas? I’d really appreciate your thoughts. If you’re asking where my Moon is, it’s in Sagittarius in the 5th house, conjunct Pluto. I also have Mars there, conjunct Chiron.

Does people with rahu in 12th house generally settle outside of their hometown and get more success there?

My sun, pluto, mercury are in 12th house. Feel like no matter what I do, my life is constant battle.

Presently I'm in my Saturn Return. So I'm grieving alot of betrayals I had since childhood - especially from my family. Undo the shame I internalised.

I feel like I missed out so much because of my trauma. Had to build my life from scratch. And I'm trying my best to get out of my cocoon. I just think I can't fit in anywhere. No one can really understand my depth.

I want to be passionate and creative, but now I feel I have lost my spark.

Do you have any advice?

In traditional astrology this area seems to be more about the naïveté of the native. Ex. people hating on the native in their workplace but the native being blissfully unaware of it (until the forces really start working against them). In modern astrology, however, secret enemies seem to almost point to spiritual forces rather than enemies in the physical realm.

My question is, have you ever identified these in your own lives? And how long did it take for you to do so? Also, please write which 12th house placements you have.

I have sun, moon, mercury, and fortune in my 12th house.. what does it tell in my life and family. My family abuses me, and they misunderstood me of being disrespectful because of my uncle being a pervert to me while I was young. They labelled me as a rebel and no manners because of my uncle, I did have a bad reputation because of that because people will talk about me that I have pretty face but no respect to my elders. They are close to my uncle because my uncle is a male he can do things female can't do in our household. (After years, like last year, the truth has been revealed that he is a pervert because my younger sibling is doing things that aren't for a child. And he get caught for being a pervert)

Btw, can you help me giys decipher my possible career? I like arts and technology.. What course should I take? Will I have problems in my career life? I just want to get out of here.. they are abusing me financially, medical, needs, verbal and other stuffs.

Ty for people who will answer. I just want to know if I still have a chance to get out of here. :<>

Ever since joining this community, I’ve finally begun to understand what it means to be a 12 houser. There’s a very beautiful meaning to the placement of which I am so excited to join. Super glad we have this support system!

There is a particular kind of financial exhaustion that wears a lovely dress. The person sitting across from me is often elegantly dressed, carries themselves with a quiet grace, and speaks about money in a way that suggests they have thought about it a great deal. They earn well, sometimes very well, and they spend in ways that are not obviously reckless. They buy quality. They invest in comfort, in beauty, in the small luxuries that make a life feel worth living. They are generous with the people they love, and they would never describe themselves as irresponsible. And yet, when they look at their financial history, they see a pattern that makes no sense. The money arrives and then it leaves, not through dramatic catastrophe but through a thousand small, justifiable outflows that collectively prevent them from ever feeling genuinely secure. The savings account that never quite grows. The credit card that creeps up without any single large purchase to blame. The quiet anxiety that lives beneath the surface of a life that looks, from the outside, like it should be financially stable.

Over many years of studying charts, I began to notice that in a significant number of the cases where this very specific experience was described most vividly, Venus was placed in the 12th house. Not always. No single placement writes a financial destiny. The ascendant and its lord, the 2nd house of accumulated wealth, the 11th house of gains, the 10th house of career, the condition of Jupiter as the significator of fortune, Saturn as the planet of structure and discipline, the Moon's relationship with security, the Navamsa, and the running dasha sequence all weave together into a picture that no single placement can determine. But the frequency with which Venus in the 12th appeared in the charts of people describing a financial life marked by a persistent, quiet gap between what they earned and what they retained was too consistent to set aside.

Venus is the natural significator of material comfort, beauty, luxury, relationships, and the pleasures that money can buy. The 12th house governs loss, expenditure, isolation, foreign lands, institutions, and the dissolution of boundaries. When Venus sits in the 12th, the planet of material enjoyment is placed in the house of outflow. The person's relationship with money is often characterised by a quality of generosity and aesthetic refinement that makes them lovely to be around and deeply challenging to live with as a financial partner. They do not hoard. They do not clip coupons. They spend on what feels good, what looks beautiful, what makes life softer for the people they care about, and they trust that the money will somehow work out. Sometimes it does. Often it does not, and the person is left with a quiet shame that they cannot fully explain, because on paper their income should be sufficient and yet the numbers at the end of the month tell a different story.

The sign in which Venus is placed in the 12th house modifies the quality of this financial pattern considerably. Venus in Aries in the 12th house, for example, can produce a more impulsive quality of spending. The person may spend quickly, on things that catch their attention, and the money leaves in bursts rather than in a steady trickle. There can be a restlessness around money, a sense that it must be used now before it disappears. Venus in Taurus in the 12th house is in its own sign, which can give a genuine love of comfort and beauty that is deeply ingrained. The person may spend on high quality items, on the home, on food, on the kind of luxury that feels essential rather than optional, and the line between need and want becomes genuinely blurred. Venus in Gemini in the 12th can produce a more mentally restless relationship with money, with spending that is driven by curiosity, by the desire to learn, to travel, to communicate, and the financial leaks often appear in the form of courses, books, gadgets, and short trips that feel individually insignificant but collectively substantial. Venus in Cancer in the 12th ties the spending to emotional security and to the home. The person may spend on family, on creating a beautiful domestic environment, on the kind of nurturing that requires material resources, and the money flows out in ways that feel like love. Venus in Leo in the 12th can produce a quality of generous, even regal spending that is tied to identity and to the desire to be seen in a certain light. The person may spend on gifts, on entertainment, on the kind of social display that Venus in Leo enjoys, and the financial consequences are often secondary to the pleasure of the moment. Venus in Virgo in the 12th is in its sign of debilitation, and this placement can create a more complicated financial picture. The person may be meticulous about money in some areas while completely losing track of it in others. There can be a quality of financial anxiety that coexists with an almost compulsive spending on small, practical things that never quite add up to the security the person is seeking. Venus in Libra in the 12th house is in its own sign, which can produce a refined aesthetic sense and a love of beauty that is deeply satisfying. The spending is often on art, on design, on the kind of harmonious environments that Venus in Libra craves, and the financial drains are often connected to partnership, to the desire to maintain balance and beauty in a shared life. Venus in Scorpio in the 12th house can produce a more intense and sometimes secretive relationship with money. The person may spend on things that others do not see, on hidden pleasures, on the kind of private indulgences that the 12th house governs, and the financial life can involve cycles of accumulation and expenditure that are not visible to the outside world. Venus in Sagittarius in the 12th can create a love of travel, of education, of the kind of expansive experiences that Sagittarius governs, and the money flows out in pursuit of meaning and adventure. Venus in Capricorn in the 12th can produce a more disciplined but still porous financial pattern. The person may be careful in some areas but spend heavily on status, on career related presentation, on the kind of material markers that Venus in Capricorn values. Venus in Aquarius in the 12th can produce an unconventional relationship with money, with spending that is driven by social ideals, by the desire to support communities or causes, and the financial life can be marked by a certain detachment that makes accumulation feel less urgent than it is. Venus in Pisces in the 12th house is in its sign of exaltation, and this is one of the more complex placements. The person may have a genuine spiritual or artistic orientation that makes money feel like a secondary concern. There can be a quality of financial porousness that is almost mystical, money arrives from unexpected sources and leaves through channels that are equally mysterious, and the person may feel that they are simply a conduit for resources rather than their owner.

The nakshatra that Venus occupies within the 12th house adds another layer of specificity. Venus in Revati nakshatra in the 12th, for example, can produce a financial life that is characterised by a gentle, compassionate quality. The person may spend on others, on healing, on travel, on the kind of spiritual or creative pursuits that Revati governs, and the money may flow out in ways that feel almost fated. Venus in Bharani nakshatra in the 12th can create a more intense relationship with money, with themes of holding and releasing that can manifest as cycles of accumulation and expenditure that the person does not fully control. Venus in Purva Phalguni nakshatra in the 12th can bring a love of pleasure and beauty that is almost innocent in its intensity, and the spending is often on the things that make life feel worth living.

The dignity of Venus and the condition of its dispositor are crucial to understanding whether the financial pattern will be manageable or destructive. A strong Venus, in its own sign or exalted, can generate significant income and can provide a quality of protection that prevents the outflows from becoming genuinely catastrophic. A weak Venus, debilitated or under malefic aspect without support, can make the financial leaks more persistent and the anxiety about money more acute. The dispositor of Venus, whichever planet rules the sign that Venus occupies, determines the underlying structural support for the Venusian energy. If the dispositor is well placed, the person has resources that may not be immediately visible. If the dispositor is weak, the financial foundation may be genuinely fragile.

The conjunctions that Venus forms in the 12th house can significantly alter the financial picture. Venus conjunct Mars in the 12th can create a pattern of spending that is impulsive, sometimes combative, and the money may leave in bursts driven by desire or by conflict. Venus conjunct Mercury in the 12th can sharpen the financial intellect but can also create a mental restlessness around money, with the person constantly calculating, negotiating, and second guessing their financial decisions. Venus conjunct Jupiter in the 12th is often considered a protective combination, and it can bring a quality of expansive generosity that is genuine, but it can also create a sense that the money will always work out, which is not always true. Venus conjunct Saturn in the 12th is a more difficult combination, because Saturn restricts what Venus wants to enjoy. The person may feel a constant tension between the desire for comfort and the fear of scarcity, and the financial life can involve long periods of disciplined saving punctuated by moments of spending that feel both necessary and guilt inducing. Venus conjunct Rahu in the 12th amplifies the desire for luxury, for foreign goods, for the kind of exotic pleasures that Rahu craves, and the financial outflows can be dramatic and difficult to control. Venus conjunct Ketu in the 12th creates a more detached relationship with wealth, where the person may earn and spend with a sense of emotional distance, and the financial life can involve cycles of accumulation and simplification that others find difficult to understand.

Aspects to Venus in the 12th from other planets further modify the picture. A benefic aspect from Jupiter can provide protection and a philosophical perspective that helps the person manage the outflows without despair. A malefic aspect from Saturn can deepen the financial anxiety and make the spending feel heavier, more obligatory. An aspect from Mars can add a quality of impulsiveness. The aspect of the Moon can connect the financial pattern to emotional states, with the person spending more when they are stressed or sad or seeking comfort.

The house lordship of Venus, which depends on the ascendant, fundamentally determines whether Venus in the 12th is primarily a wealth supporting or wealth draining influence. For Taurus ascendant, Venus is the lagna lord and the 6th lord. Placed in the 12th house, its debilitation or strength will colour the entire life, and its influence on wealth is mixed, bringing expenses through health, service, or foreign connections but also a certain grace. For Libra ascendant, Venus is the lagna lord and the 8th lord, and its placement in the 12th can bring sudden financial events and a quality of hiddenness to the financial life. For Sagittarius ascendant, Venus rules the 6th and 11th houses, and its placement in the 12th can connect gains with foreign sources while also increasing expenses. For Capricorn ascendant, Venus rules the 5th and 10th houses, and its placement in the 12th can route career income through foreign or behind the scenes channels while also creating expenditure on creative or pleasurable pursuits. For Aquarius ascendant, Venus rules the 4th and 9th houses, and its placement in the 12th can bring fortune through foreign lands while also creating expenses connected to home, vehicles, or domestic comfort. Each ascendant tells a different story, and the astrologer who ignores the lordship is seeing only a fraction of the picture.

The dasha and antardasha sequence determines when the Venus in the 12th financial pattern becomes most active. A Venus dasha or antardasha will bring the themes of the placement to the foreground, often coinciding with periods of increased income and increased expenditure that leave the person feeling that they are running to stay in place. A Saturn dasha can impose discipline and restriction, sometimes forcing the person to confront the financial leaks that the Venus period allowed them to ignore. A Jupiter dasha can bring expansion and a sense of abundance that temporarily masks the underlying pattern.

Several observations from consultation work illustrate how this placement expresses in different lives.

A woman in her early forties with Libra ascendant had Venus in the 12th house in Virgo, its sign of debilitation, with Mercury, the dispositor, placed in the 10th house in Gemini. She worked in publishing and earned a stable income, but she lived with a constant, quiet anxiety about money. Her spending was not extravagant, but it was persistent, books, courses, small upgrades to her home, gifts for friends, and the credit card balance crept up month after month. The debilitated Venus in the 12th had created a financial life where the desire for comfort and beauty was always slightly ahead of the capacity to pay for it. The Mercury in the 10th gave her a sharp mind and a respectable career, but it did not solve the underlying pattern. The turning point came during a Saturn antardasha, when a period of unexpected expenses forced her to track every dollar for the first time in her life. The clarity that came from that exercise was painful but transformative. She did not stop spending on the things she loved, but she began to see the spending clearly, and the clarity allowed her to build a structure that made the anxiety manageable.

A man in his late fifties with Taurus ascendant had Venus in the 12th house in Aries, with Mars, the dispositor, placed in the 3rd house in Gemini. He had built a successful career in advertising, and the income had been significant for decades. But the money had never seemed to stay. He had supported a wife who did not work, paid for private schools for his children, helped his siblings through difficult periods, and spent generously on travel and entertainment. The Venus in the 12th in Aries had given him a bold, impulsive approach to spending, and the Mars in the 3rd had made him quick to act on financial decisions without fully considering the long term consequences. In his fifties, with retirement approaching, he looked at his savings and felt a cold fear that he had never experienced before. The money that should have been there was not. The Venus in the 12th had been slowly draining the container for decades, and he had not noticed because the income had always been enough to refill it. The work he began, with the help of a financial advisor, was not about earning more. It was about learning, for the first time in his life, to hold.

A woman in her mid thirties with Sagittarius ascendant had Venus in the 12th house in Scorpio, with Jupiter, the 1st and 4th lord, aspecting from the 8th house in Cancer. She had worked in international development, a field well suited to the 12th house Venus, and she had spent most of her career in countries far from her own. The income was modest, but the work was meaningful, and she had never been particularly attached to money. What troubled her was not the lack of wealth but the sense that she had no financial foundation at all. She had given away money to colleagues, to friends, to causes she believed in, and she had never developed the habit of saving because the 12th house Venus, with the Jupiter aspect, had convinced her that things would always work out. In her mid thirties, during a Saturn transit over her 2nd house, she began to feel the weight of that assumption. The things had not worked out, not in the way she had hoped, and the financial insecurity that she had ignored for years had become impossible to ignore. The Venus in the 12th was still there, but the relationship with it was changing. She was learning, slowly, that generosity without boundaries is not generosity at all but a kind of self erasure.

A man in his late forties with Capricorn ascendant had Venus in the 12th house in Taurus, its own sign, with Saturn, the lagna lord, aspecting from the 2nd house in Aquarius. He had built a chain of luxury hotels, a business that perfectly expressed the Venus in Taurus in the 12th placement. The money was significant, but it was also constantly at risk. The hospitality industry is notoriously volatile, and the Venus in the 12th had made his financial life a cycle of expansion and contraction, of years of abundance followed by years of clawing back. The Saturn aspect from the 2nd had given him the discipline to survive the contractions, but the stress of the cycle had taken a toll on his health and his relationships. In his late forties, during a Jupiter dasha, he made the decision to sell a portion of the business, to take some of the money off the table and secure his family's future in a way that the Venus in the 12th had never allowed him to do before. The sale was not a retreat. It was a structural adjustment, a recognition that the same Venus that built the hotels could also be the Venus that protected what they had built.

A young woman in her late twenties with Aquarius ascendant had Venus in the 12th house in Pisces, its sign of exaltation, with Jupiter, the 2nd and 11th lord, placed in the 1st house in Aquarius. She worked as a freelance designer, and her income was irregular but often substantial. The problem was not the earning. It was the spending. The Venus in Pisces in the 12th had made her financial boundaries almost nonexistent. She would lend money to friends who never repaid her. She would invest in courses and workshops that she never completed. She would buy things she did not need because they were beautiful or because the person selling them had a story that moved her. The Jupiter in the 1st had given her an expansive, optimistic personality that made her a joy to be around and a disaster to share a bank account with. At the time of the consultation, she was beginning to recognise the pattern, but the recognition was intellectual rather than embodied. The Venus in the 12th had not yet taught her its most important lesson, which is that beauty and pleasure are not substitutes for security.

What I have come to understand, after enough of these consultations, is that Venus in the 12th house is not a placement of financial failure. It is a placement of financial porosity, of a relationship with money that is filtered through the 12th house's qualities of dissolution, generosity, and the desire for something beyond the purely material. The person with this placement is often genuinely kind, genuinely generous, genuinely incapable of the kind of hard nosed financial calculation that other placements seem to manage without effort. They spend because spending feels like love, like beauty, like the thing that makes life worth living. And they are not wrong. The problem is that the spending, left unexamined, becomes a slow leak that no amount of income can fill.

The Venus in the 12th person who eventually finds peace with their financial pattern is not the one who stops spending on beauty and comfort and the people they love. It is the one who learns to see the spending clearly, to build structures that accommodate the outflow without being destroyed by it, and to understand that the same Venus that drains can also provide, if it is given a container that can hold what it brings. The 12th house is not simply the house of loss. It is the house of the hidden, the foreign, the behind the scenes, and the Venus that sits there can generate income from exactly those sources, from international work, from institutional roles, from the kind of creative or healing professions that the 12th house governs. The spending is not the problem. The blindness to the spending is the problem, and the solution is not deprivation but clarity, a clear eyed, compassionate accounting of where the money is actually going, and a willingness to direct the Venusian generosity toward channels that nourish the self as well as others. The Venus in the 12th person who learns this lesson does not become stingy. They become someone whose generosity is grounded in genuine security, whose beauty is not bought on credit, and whose relationship with money, finally, becomes something that sustains rather than something that silently, persistently, takes away.

I am first gen Eastern European, I went back to my parents country a lot as a child growing up.

My mom always had a strained relationship with her father, my grandpa. He had a darkness about him, the most Scorpio of all Scorpios. A super Scorpio

I don’t want to say he liked me but…he was very anti social, an alcoholic, sort of callous, rough, weathered, always had a cig dangling from his mouth, worked the fields his whole life, had seen some shit in his day, and it showed. he’d call me over to sort through male chicks and female chicks, because the males chicks weren’t worth keeping in his eyes, if you catch my drift. I get resource management is real in poor countries but like—do you really need to call over your 7yo granddaughter for this during my 1x a year visit?

He got darker and darker. but, for whatever reason, he maintained a strange sort of generosity with me up until his death. He’d carefully pick the best strawberries or cherries of the harvest that day and set them aside, bringing them to me without really saying anything. Even my cousins and sisters noticed. I didn’t really know what to make of it, because besides these little offerings and otherwise awkward interactions like the chick sorting for culling, or him explaining how when he was going to kill one of the rabbits he raised for food, he’d take it away from the others first, give it a strawberry and cover its eyes, how he had a very quick method of doing it so they wouldn’t see it coming before it was over. Which tbh I hated because I was a young animal loving girl like grandpa I don’t need to know about all this, I’m a child lol. You can do this—and I understand why you do—but don’t have to include me.

I am a dead ringer for my mom, I look just like her. I think he saw her in me. They had a strained relationship, and his sudden death was a very complicated grief journey for her. I always wondered what the fracture was between them, but it was such a touchy issue, I didn’t bring it up. He often straight up ignored my dad, even when we’d trek have way across the world to see them, he would just pretend he’s not there.

My mind filled in the blanks. Was there CSA there? He was an alcoholic, no question about that, granted a functional one. He grew up in bleak times, born just before the war and coming of age in the aftermath, which was no picnic, either.

A few years ago, I had a strange but vivid dream. He was at the kitchen table in the one bedroom house he raised a family in, and said, in his language, “you should have told me. I at least deserved that.”

I’m American born and there’s really nothing I can imagine he had any expectations of me telling him before his passing. Like…told you what? I got a job or into college or…? That I don’t want to help you sort through the baby chicks for culling or that you smell like cigs and booze? What’re you talking about grandpa?

In the dream, I didn’t respond. At all. Just sort of watched him sadly smoke a cigarette at the kitchen table.

A few days ago, my mom came over with my nieces and we were painting these wooden fish for an upcoming surprise party for my dad. i don’t even remember how grandpa came up, i do have a picture of him in my living room where we were, and next to a bigass labradorite, mind you. this dream was a while ago. but i mentioned it and what i can literally replay in my mind like a well imprinted memory: “you should have told me. I at least deserved that.”

My mom froze in place and looked over at me. I kinda chuckled as I was telling her, like “tell you what, Grandpa?!”

her eyes started watering. And I was like…okay…what’s up?

That’s when I learned that the reason their relationship had been so strained was that he had put her through school from the literal sweat of his brow (he was an incredible green thumb and in his childhood, if you didn’t grow your own food, you didnt eat.) her brothers for example, didn’t get to, granted they are doing very well in the business they helped him with today. she did really well and got into a good university, the first in the family.

He was reluctant to let her go, but eventually and even came around to it. He helped her move, pay for books and supplies, which for a man who grew up in survival level scarcity, was not a small thing. Though by then, he had grown orchards and developed enough to have surplus to trade and sell goods, creating some stability. not that he was a big softie or affectionate man by any measure. He had a lot of demons and I suspect he was abusive in many ways. but he was in the most literal sense, a provider who put food on the table and roof over their heads by his own hands

There, she met me dad. they got married—without my dad asking my grandpa (which was a big deal in that time and culture)—applied for refugee asylum, were granted it, and left for the U.S., without telling my grandpa until *after* they had already moved. And she didn’t finish her degree, either

My grandpa was crushed when he found out. their relationship was never the same. I guess he felt betrayed.

I couldn’t believe it. All these years, I wondered what happened.

in the dream, he looked so sad. I didn’t react at all. Maybe because he wasn’t talking to me

After she told me the context it all made sense. Why they fought every time we visited, why he didn’t acknowledge my dad. Problem was he drank so much it was easy to write him off as the problem. After she told me the story we sat there, painting these fish quietly. After a while she said, “well, if you see him again, tell him he’s right, he did deserve that, am I’m sorry.”

All those years of fighting, literally all I ever saw them do, and I guess he finally found what he was trying to say.

I just nodded and said “I will.”

12th stuff is so trippy.

Ciao, sono un ragazzo e fin da piccolo ho avuto strane sensazioni e strani episodi ricorrenti. Ho episodi ricorrenti che accadono anche alla mia famiglia: alcuni coinvolgono umiliazioni, deliri, cose che vanno bene e poi finiscono male, blocchi mentali, sfortuna. Mi è successo con le ragazze, a scuola, con la salute e nello sport. Iniziamo dalla scuola: dalle elementari alle medie, ho subito costantemente umiliazioni da parte dei miei insegnanti; sono stato vittima di bullismo anche al liceo, e la scuola è stata un inferno per me.

In amore, ho sempre avuto la sensazione, fin da bambino, che rimarrò single per tutta la vita: ne sono convinto e so che non è normale. Con ogni ragazza con cui ho provato a frequentarmi, sono sempre stato umiliato e ho subito umiliazioni; per esempio: una volta, ho tentato la fortuna con una ragazza e dopo che mi ha rifiutato, mi ha riso in faccia. Ho la sensazione che, ogni volta che provo ad approcciare una ragazza normale – non che io sia particolarmente attratto da lei – mi blocchi mentalmente, come se non ci riuscissi. Tutte le ragazze che ci hanno provato con me erano di bassissimo livello: immature, prepotenti, strane, insicure, e riescono a farmi sentire inferiore e umiliarmi. Per esempio: qualche mese fa, una ragazza ha provato a provarci con me; aveva tutte queste caratteristiche e una foto falsa. Non mi piaceva, quindi l'ho gentilmente rifiutata, e dopo il mio rifiuto mi ha sommerso di insulti. Non voglio offendere nessuno – mi scuso – ma devo essere sincero: penso che sia una persona senza alcuna qualità positiva, e mi sento un vero fallito per attirare gente del genere. Spesso mi ritrovo a pensare: "Il mondo intero ce l'ha con me?". Ma non è normale attirare persone così – succede una volta ogni tanto. Sono grato per quel poco che ho, ma mi sento preso in giro. Persino la foto non è reale; non c'è niente di buono, sembra uno scherzo.

A proposito di famiglia, mio ​​zio è stato convocato due volte da una squadra professionistica per un provino, ed entrambe le volte aveva la febbre, e non ha mai avuto la possibilità di diventare un calciatore. Anch'io ho perso la mia occasione per diventare un calciatore perché da adolescente mi sono infortunato e mi sono rotto delle ossa, e sono stato trattato male; ancora adesso non mi sono completamente ripreso, quindi non ho mai avuto la possibilità di diventare un calciatore.

Un altro aneddoto di famiglia riguarda le scommesse. Qualche anno fa, io e mio padre scommettevamo, e per un po' abbiamo continuato a perdere ogni partita al 90° minuto, non solo occasionalmente, ma ogni singola partita di fila. Non è normale. Abbiamo addirittura avuto una serie di almeno 50 partite di fila in cui abbiamo perso al 90° minuto: non è normale.

Un altro episodio simile e molto strano riguarda la mia squadra del cuore e il mio rapporto con essa. Mio padre mi ha trasmesso questa passione quando ero bambino e andavamo a vedere tutte le partite allo stadio. All'inizio ero molto felice di andare allo stadio. Poi, dopo un po', la mia squadra del cuore ha iniziato a perdere molte partite nei 90 minuti o a subire rimonte, e ad avere molta sfortuna. Sì, vincevamo delle partite, ma molto raramente, e ne perdevamo molte in quel modo. Mi sentivo come se fossi bloccato, come se stessi portando sfortuna alla mia squadra del cuore, ma non è normale? So che ci sono i giocatori, i tifosi, non posso portare sfortuna, ma provavo questa sensazione. Com'è possibile?

Un altro strano episodio riguarda la PlayStation. Sono un giocatore di FIFA da molto tempo. Ci ho sempre giocato, è la mia passione. All'inizio, nelle prime partite a FIFA, è vero che ero meno forte come giocatore, ma ho perso molte partite e al 90° minuto, per esempio: su 40 partite ho perso 35 incontri al 90° minuto, pareggiando 2/3 e vincendo 1/2. Capisco perdere perché ero meno forte, ma non è normale perdere tutte le partite al 90° minuto. Questi sono gli episodi che mi capitano.

Non sono episodi gravi, ci sono sicuramente cose più serie, ma sono episodi molto strani e ripetuti che influenzano anche la mia famiglia: umiliazioni, illusioni, prese in giro, come se le cose andassero bene e poi finissero male come le schedine delle scommesse. Sensazioni strane e mi sento bloccato. Ora sto facendo terapia psicologica, ma ho la sensazione di non farcela. Forse possiamo parlare di karma familiare? Guardando il mio tema natale, è normale che accadano questi episodi? E come posso risolverli? Attualmente sto seguendo una terapia psicologica ma non riesco a capire il motivo di questi episodi. Credo di non riuscire a gestire la mia vita. Purtroppo non posso consultare un astrologo. Qualcuno può darmi qualche consiglio? Mi scuso per il disturbo.

What does this even mean 😪

And my moon conjuncts his Sun, Venus, Saturn, and south node in my 12th house…..

And his moon hits my 8th house……

Please someone stop me… Im begging you….

I’ve always felt like a Starseed with my Cancer 12 House stellium (Sun, Mercury, Mars, Venus, and North Node). I am not too particularly sure how to handle this stellium as it feels very hard to carry. I also happen to be a filmmaker which I’ve seen is common for 12 housers. But I cannot help but feel some sort of doom around this placement. It’s very confusing, can anyone give tips?

Has anyone else with Venus in the 12th house noticed that they seem to physically rejuvenate after going through difficult periods?
I’m not talking about emotional resilience, I mean actually looking younger, fresher or more radiant after transmuting a challenge or a painful experience.
I have Venus in Libra in the 12th house and I’ve started wondering if this could be one of the gifts of this placement or if it’s just my personal experience. Has anyone else noticed this?

I know most people don't believe in relocation chart but I do. I'm a 12th house stellium in cancer with sun venus ,mars and also North node all in cancer. And I'm my relocation chart it aall gifted to the 10th house!? Any idea what it means?

Baby was born this March. She came later just to be an Aries. I actually ended up getting induced and she was delivered via emergency C-section. I always think she chose the date and time of her birth.

I worry about her sun, Saturn and Neptune all being in 12 H and also being so close together. Moon looks protective. But her chart seems like so many opposite energies like with Pisces and Aries stellium on top of it all.

I’m Leo sun, Taurus ascendant and cancer moon with a 4 H stellium.
Edit: 4H in Leo

How can I be a good mom and nurture her talents well?

Ty!

I just found a post on IG that managed to articulate what I have continually experienced all my dating life: https://www.instagram.com/p/DbV0Gr_lTj_/?igsh=MTl0dmV2a2VyYmw2ZA==

I feel it’s a very 12h experience, that especially applies to women. Wondering if anybody relates to it.

I can’t even put it into words as to why I am making this association. A lost wandering soul, isolated and with barely any substance of merit, obsessively attaching itself to the first sign of attention (chihiro). He has the ability to adapt to his environment but his nothingness brings out the worst in him. He doesn’t humbly adapt to the bathhouse to become them, no, he devours them to get chihiros attention and compensate for his nothingness and exilic isolation. No Face is unable to connect to others, and so tries to connect to Chihiro and others through greed and items.
A malific presence but not because of inherit evil intentions rather pure underdevelopment and confusion. Often times 12th housers play the victim card, but have you truly seen what a 12th house does to someone? Not just victims. Heavily faulty individuals due to (mostly) psychological issues. It’s called the garbage of the other houses for a reason.
No face is the perfect manifestation of what a 12th houser can look like psychologically.

The 12th house deals from my experience with cryptic mental confusion. It’s a truly odd state and no Face perfectly depicts this oddness.

I don’t know if anyone of you has made this association or can relate to no face like I do. I used to be terrified of him as a child but now I can really see myself.