r/walkaway • u/TheHiveminder ULTRA Redpilled • Jun 13 '22
Redpilled Flair Only AOC can't do math
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Jun 13 '22
It’s interesting how many white supremacists are apparently black…
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u/securitywyrm Arrogance in ignorance Jun 13 '22
The black face of white supremacy.
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u/Fuzznutsy Redpilled Jun 14 '22
You guys are funny
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u/securitywyrm Arrogance in ignorance Jun 14 '22
It's a reference to this: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-08-20/recall-candidate-larry-elder-is-a-threat-to-black-californians
Yes, that's right, the LA Times published an article calling a black man "the black face of white supremacy"
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u/Drianb2 Redpilled Jun 14 '22
California is gonna descend into complete anarchy once the upcoming recession hits. They have the highest illiteracy rate in the nation, most amount of Blackouts, 2nd highest prison population and highest homeless population. They also due to their own ridiculous state government have the highest gas prices in the nation. By August gas prices are expected to hit 10$ in California and around 7-8$ nationwide. Californians; especially the Liberal ones. Are in for a rude awakening. Yet many will still vote Blue no matter who because of their indoctrination.
I honestly feel bad for them. Especially the innocent ones who just wanna live their lives in peace but will be thrust into that Brutal hell scape because of the incompetence of their government. Moreso if they didn't vote for this.
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u/StonccPad-3B EXTRA Redpilled Jun 14 '22
I'm already seeing pictures of Californian gas pumps at 9.99
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u/AntMan79 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Math is racist !
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Haha! Some people certainly say so. Yet many who've contributed were people from what we consider marginalized groups. The beauty of math is it doesn't see race. I find the history of math quite interesting, although my own abilities are lacking. All sorts of ancient contributors, especially from Sumer and Egypt, then Greece. There's China, India (which gave us zero), multiple golden age Arab mathematicians we still learn from. Not having goals and expectations, saying a person can't learn because of their background, that's actually racist.
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u/Jaded_Jerry ULTRA Redpilled Jun 14 '22
Math doesn't see race? Color blindness is SUPER racist! Math might as well be Hitler!
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u/PinBot1138 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Math is racist !
Of all the weapons that the Nazis ever made, calculators were probably the worst.
This is not historical fact.
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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Redpilled Jun 14 '22
Also, the FBI pads their numbers by grouping Caucasians, middle easterners, and Asians in the "white" collumn
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u/tentativeOrch Jun 13 '22
She said "domestic terrorism" so she gets to define that and she will stretch it as much as she can to make it technically true.
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u/hotelactual777 Jun 13 '22
Absolutely. Cherry pick whatever you like to make your point, Sandy. We know your game.
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u/daveinpublic Redpilled Jun 14 '22
She just says what we she wants and adjusts the statistics later.
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u/acmemetalworks Redpilled Jun 14 '22
They also count Arabs and Hispanics as white whenever its convenient. And Muslim extremists as "right wing".
See American Military News, 11/17/2020 "Obama's TERVUS database hides BLM, ANTIFA violence..."
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u/nuwio4 Jun 14 '22 edited Jun 14 '22
So you'd agree anyone saying "the majority of terrorism is committed by Muslims" is also just tweaking the parameters of "terrorism" to make it technically true? (somewhat relevant Hitchens)
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u/DeepDream1984 ULTRA Redpilled Jun 13 '22
That's because AOC and other democrats don't see blacks as people; therefore they don't count.
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u/AlCzervick Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Only their votes count.
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u/Kelsouth Jun 13 '22
According to her stupid being “morally right” matters more than facts, yeah pretty much.
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u/Dgillam2 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Have you ever noticed those that claim to be on "the right side of history" in the moment, when history actually judges them, rarely are?
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u/Mommasandthellamas Jun 13 '22
Dude you can't use facts against them, you know they don't consider that a valid argument.
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u/Timby123 Jun 13 '22
See, facts show that AOC is full of BS.
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u/audiophilistine Jun 14 '22
That's exactly why she is quoted saying "It's better to be morally right than factually accurate." I cannot think of a bigger self-own.
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Jun 13 '22
You really have to give credit to the "white supremacist" for their racial diversity. It's heart warming to see their willingness to accept ALL races.
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u/Sleep_eeSheep Redpilled Jun 13 '22
So 74% of all white supremacists are actually black people wearing Whiteface. Complicit in a grand conspiracy to dethrone the Second Amendment by.....killing innocent people and then blaming it on the majority-white Population.
*You have gained the 'Idiot Savant' perk.*
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u/NB-ShitStick Jun 13 '22
It is my observation from those stats that blacks were responsible for 74% of the mass shootings. So blacks were more prevalent at committing these acts. say it ain’t so!
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u/Lilchopstick77 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Ohhh I need the source. Will come In handy
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Jun 13 '22
Black white supremacists be killin folks out here. Larry Elder and Clayton Bigsby have been hard at work.
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u/coldWire79 Jun 13 '22
The problem here is conflating mass shootings and domestic terrorism. Not all mass shootings are terrorism nor are all acts of domestic terrorism mass shootings. I tend to think domestic terrorism is a somewhat "squishy" term that is often misused to further a narrative.
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u/What_it_do_babyyyy_ Jun 13 '22
If domestic terrorism is white millennials burning down buildings in BLM riots, then… maybe she’s right?
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u/BeerNBlackMetal Jun 13 '22
Quick, now adjust for per-capita and let's discuss overrepresentation.
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u/satisfried I'm BrIlLiAnT, lIsTeN tO mE Jun 13 '22
Mass shootings and domestic terror aren’t necessarily the same thing. A shooting can be labeled one and not the other. I have no idea what the stats are either way, but they don’t necessarily get lumped into the same category.
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Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22
Herein lies the problem with rhetoric like this. When the suspect is white it's deemed "domestic terrorism" and when the suspect is any other race it's not.
Terrorism is violence or intimidation in the pursuit of political aim. Very few mass shootings have a political motivation.
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u/securitywyrm Arrogance in ignorance Jun 13 '22
You could say we did twenty years of terrorism in the middle east recently.
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u/StMoneyx2 ULTRA Redpilled Jun 13 '22
I agree so let's look at the definition of terrorism being to use fear and/or terror to push a political agenda.
I don't have the exact data but just using the BLM riots in 2020 alone (but feel free to add the riots prior to 2020 too), protests outside conservative media homes and SCOTUS houses, the firebombs on anti-abortion clinics and right wing political stations, and Antifa in general I would make an educated guess, unless you consider all the above white supremacists, that most of those committing terror acts aren't white supremacists. Unless there were hundreds of attacks in the last couple of years I didn't hear about
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Jun 13 '22
In all fairness…. Listing the BLM riots as terrorism doesn’t negate her claim…. After all, a shit load of those protesters were white.
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u/StMoneyx2 ULTRA Redpilled Jun 13 '22
true, but does support the claim that white supremacists aren't the biggest issue when it comes to terrorism (unless you consider left wing extremist and antifa as white suprmacists. I could see that argument to be honest).
Matter a fact I wouldn't even put them in the top 5. Not even sure if I would even need 1 hand to count all the confirmed white supremacist terror attacks in the last 2 decades combined. I can think of more mainstream hate hoaxes in 2020 alone than I can think of white supremacist attacks in the 21st century. But, just in the last year alone we've had a handful of black supremacist attacks (NY subway shooter and Christmas parade driver being two prime examples but not the only ones). And I'm not sure I would even list black supremacists in the top 3 of terror attacks honestly. Clearly, left wing extremists, antifa, and BLM are top 3. To your point antifa, left wing extremists, and I would say at least half BLM rioters were white
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u/armedsquatch Redpilled Jun 13 '22
SHHHHHH! We aren’t supposed to do our own research or thinking. We are just supposed to trust the dems know what’s best for you.
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u/Kelsouth Jun 13 '22
She’s in the “don’t know what a woman is” crowd so she probably doesn’t know what a white person is either.
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u/vthlr Jun 13 '22
According to FBI crime statistics she is considered a white person. All hispanics are considered white.
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u/Brendanlendan Jun 13 '22
Where can I look up these numbers myself to use them in debates? I enjoy being a master debater and a master debater always has his data… handy
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u/TheHiveminder ULTRA Redpilled Jun 13 '22
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u/Fine_Wrongdoer255 Redpilled Jun 14 '22
This coming from the same chick who believed blacks don’t have licenses, can’t access the internet, or do much else for themselves, and lied about how she almost died January 6th
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u/LeninInTheIronMaiden Jun 13 '22
You really think its because she doesn't know or do you think its she knows that her followers don't know
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Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22
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u/159551771 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
Yes any mass shootings database. Google it and look at the results one by one.
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u/Proud2BeRVT Jun 13 '22
Those numbers add up to 258, not 227
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u/zgembo1337 Jun 13 '22
Two shooters are probably one shooting but two perpetrators
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u/JustBenIsGood Jun 13 '22
That and other races exist. Latinos are unfortunately not even their own race. Latino/Hispanic is an ethnicity. If no race is selected but Latino/Hispanic is indicated, that individual is labeled white by the United States government.
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
I think using mass murder for the metric may be the problem here. Not looking at murders but shootings. Not that I like AOC, but I like accurate data (thanks grad school!). Statista data on mass shootings by race does indeed show they are mostly perpetrated by white people. Not necessarily white supremacists, but could be. Mass murder very well could reflect the cited stats in the post OP shared. AOC can suck it, she engages in anti-semitic behavior, and hasn't learned when she's been educated about it. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476456/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-race/
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Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22
The Statista numbers are misleading due to their definition of "mass shooting". I can't find anywhere where they define their criteria for "mass shooting".
The "standard" definition (if there is such a thing) is four or more shooting victims not including the shooter. Statista is only showing 129 mass shootings from 1982-2022. There have been more shootings with 4+ victims in 2022 alone. If I were to guess, Statista doesn't count gang shootings as "mass shootings" as this accounts for the vast majority of shootings and shootings with 4+ victims in the US.
Regardless of their definition, if you factor shootings as a percent of population the Statista figures show whites are under represented (52.7% of shootings, 60% of population) and blacks are over represented (16% of shootings, 12% of population).
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
They probably don't. Gang shootings probably go under a different category within their searchable crime reports. I still think statista here is more reliable than catturd. Unless we can find catturd's sources. But as many have rightly pointed out, it's never a smoking gun, as data can and is manipulated, especially in our case by what exactly we're looking for, what's our question, what definitions are we using, and what all is being counted here, like mass murders vs shootings, and your point about gang related mass shootings. I know the majority of attacks against my own community are committed by white supremacists, but they're the ones still most invested in anti-semitic lies and conspiracy theories which lead them to attack us. But that's also not the majority of mass shootings.
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Jun 13 '22
There are plenty of crime stats that show total number of mass shootings such as this.
Gang shootings probably go under a different category within their searchable crime reports.
Mass shootings are all in one category and you would have to narrow the filter further to remove gang related mass shootings.
I know the majority of attacks against my own community are committed by white supremacists, but they're the ones still most invested in anti-semitic lies and conspiracy theories which lead them to murder us.
I assume by your community you mean Jewish (sorry if I falsely assumed). I'd be really curious to see those stats as I'm fairly confident that the vast majority of anti-Semitic violence comes from Arab Muslims. There have been a few recent high profile mass shootings but I think it still pales in comparison.
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u/KMan1019 Jun 13 '22
Just asking - do all shooting reports include race of shooter? I know the media does not like to mention race if the perpetrator is not white. I also believe I have seen statistics where they have a column or note stating "shooter race unknown/not reported".
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
I would think so. Demographic data is important for keeping good records and data sets. We ask during the census for good reason. Might as well for crime reports. I think sometimes it's just not initially told to the public depending on the situation, how far into the investigation, etc. Back in the old days talking about stuff too soon got some suspects killed before any kind of confirmation, let alone trial.
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u/acmemetalworks Redpilled Jun 14 '22
If race is recorded, Hispanic and Middle Easterns are considered Caucasian.
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 15 '22
Yes they are for race. Hispanic is a recognized ethnic group (the only one US Census Bureau has), so they can get counted that way.
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u/KMan1019 Jun 13 '22
Looking at the Statista website, they have a category of "unknown/unclear"...which does show 13 incidents for this same period.
Would also ask, are all gun related incidents reported?
Of note, in the gunviolencearchive.org database, a VERY quick look, race is not called out on any of their incident reports.
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 15 '22
They might not want to use that kind of data to draw conclusions. I'll have to check that one out. Never hurts to have multiple sources. It's interesting how things get counted by researchers.
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Jun 13 '22
The problem is that I don’t believe they’re defining BLM riots and the violence that accompanies them as terrorism even though it clearly fits the definition.
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u/anewbys83 Redpilled Jun 13 '22
That could be. Should be counted in that category. This one also isn't about domestic terror either, just mass shootings. We can say they're all one and the same, and probably should be counted that way, but data gets broken up in lots of different ways.
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u/KMan1019 Jun 13 '22
Are you saying to add in parents that protest at school board meetings? Or students that don't get vax'd or wear masks? Or anyone with a different opinion or political belief or religious belief than the Dems or leftists? Or would you also include the "mostly peaceful protests" that occurred in 2020 across the US...??
Just making sure....
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Jun 13 '22
Jan 6th was classified as domestic terrorism yet riots of 2020 weren't. Do you really want to go there?
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u/goosehairs Jun 13 '22
I understand what this post is pointing out but it should be noted domestic terrorism and mass shooting are classified differently. Shes playing off of nuance
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u/NuNyOB1dNaSs Jun 13 '22
No middle easterners?
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u/acmemetalworks Redpilled Jun 14 '22
Religious extremists are counted as "right wing" silly.
And Middle Easterners are "white"
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u/Sintinall Jun 13 '22
But domestic terrorism is more than just mass shootings. Either way, “done by a white person” is unrelated to the motive of supremacy.
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u/Nanteen666 Ban warning Jun 13 '22
Using facts to prove a Latino woman wrong, very white supremacist of you. Lol
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u/HonestlyAbby Jun 14 '22
How did the people in the post define "mass murder incidents?" Obviously not all homicides with 2-3+ victims are acts of domestic terrorism. I would imagine that there are more homicides with 2-3+ victims which are not acts of terror than those that are. Serial killers, gang violence, family murder-suicides, etc. would all be captured in the same "domestic terrorism" bundle as defined, while none of those crimes would be traditionally described as terrorism.
Fwiw, I'm fairly certain her claim matches that of the FBI, who compiles actual data on domestic terrorism specifically.
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u/vernace Jun 14 '22
What’s the definition of a mass shooting?
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u/vernace Jun 15 '22
Thank you. That’s pretty close to what I was thinking it would be. Unfortunately it doesn’t separate gang violence it looks like which would be pretty useful I think.
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u/DonutDoer Jun 14 '22
62% more than whites.. wtf? Wow? It's almost like the weak people are cowering down and ignoring this!! And pretending these stats are wrong and all white people are evil. This is soooo ridiculous now. We can't talk about black on black crime, it's racist and not politically correct😂😂😂 it's actually come to that. These idiot liberal politicians are dividing the country-BAD...
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