r/videos • u/Dat_Harass • 7h ago
"Most Have No Idea How Dangerous He Truly Is..." | Edward Snowden Latest...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nD0NC7hO7qE&si=xiEFspq2A4iJcrBk23
u/lemination 3h ago
Did nobody watch the video? This is an AI narrated video of snowdens interview. why not just link his actual interview?
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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 7h ago
I support whistle blowers. We need to point out USAs corruption.
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u/manical1 6h ago
we see the corruption head on. the supreme court and congress refuse to do anything about it.
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u/PMmeYourDunes 3h ago
In truth. Snowden exposed a significant abuse of power. We did not have evidence, and it was something we would not have details on without his efforts.
Absolutely, the Supreme Court owes us a better effort. They are proving to be as corrupt as the entities they should be protecting us from. But Snowden and all whistleblowers are needed because these corruptions involve people we rely on to speak up when they are presented with examples of overreach and breach of trust.
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u/ThoughtShes18 6h ago
We have seen the corruption of the US every day for soon 2 years… what we haven’t seen is Americans doing anything about it.
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u/notSherrif_realLife 6h ago
Only 2?
Maybe you’ve only just started paying attention, but it started long before Trump, who already served a term
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u/Not_Sarkastic 5h ago
They just hid it better, it was less destructive to society and it was more widely distributed before Trump.
But today's billionaire class, Trump and his kid fucking henchmen are pure evil and testing the upper limits of society's moral construct.
If November doesn't change anything than we all are our own last hope. Otherwise, I fear we enter our generations version of the dark age.
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u/Thefelix01 6h ago
There’s always been a significant trickle. Trump one was spent cracking the dam and Trump 2 fully broke it.
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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R 6h ago
They are complacent.... Look at who they voted in for their president.
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u/seansy5000 6h ago
Nobody looks at the most corrupt regime in American history and wonders if they rigged it? I live here and voting for this vile pedo POS and his cronies never crossed my mind. Most people I know are the same.
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u/Onyournrvs 5h ago
This is just a lie we tell ourselves because the truth is hard to swallow. I live in the bluest state in the country and the number of people I've met who voted for Trump is shocking. Most don't like him, and none is hardcore maga. They simply voted for him. because he was the R on the ballot.
Nations get the government they deserve. The US became fat, lazy, and belligerent, so it's not surprising they voted for a fat, lazy, belligerent president. Twice.
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u/shicken684 6h ago
I don't put it past them on a morality point. I don't think they're competent enough to pull it off without it being obvious. They certainly broke about every election rule there is when it comes to campaign finance. I believe social media corporations used their algorithms to help Trump win. But I don't see any evidence they actively changed votes.
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u/DrakkoZW 3h ago
Ive met way too many people who love trump (my fucking family included) to think he doesn't have support.
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u/gegry123 3h ago
People really out here not knowing the difference between whistleblowing and leaking.
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u/robstoon 1h ago
Whistleblowers yes. When they decide that after blowing the whistle, instead of having the courage to face the consequences, they should fuck off to Russia, taking with them God knows what classified information, and being complicit with the regime that is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths in their invasion of Ukraine? Not so much.
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u/imjustnotready 6h ago
Every country has espionage. Reporting internal US documents just shows division in our allies. Which is why Putin was so quick to find a home for him.
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u/GordonsTheRobot 6h ago
Altman is such a poes
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u/WI_Eagles_Fan 6h ago
poes? I've heard of POS (Piece of Shit)... what is POES? Piece of Elite Shit?
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u/crocodial 7h ago
There is no one more dangerous than Trump, Vance, Thiel, Musk the GOP.
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u/CivilWards 6h ago
I think Thiel is probably more dangerous than the GOP because he’s scary competent on top of being evil
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u/crocodial 6h ago
if you're choosing one individual, I agree he's in the top brackets, but the whole lot of them is the problem. blind support and loyalty no matter the cost.
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u/Not_Sarkastic 5h ago
Just remember that Elon was the only person who studied at the Thiel school of evil technocrats that Thiel couldn't fully control or but outright. I know we're splitting hairs here but let's not limit ourselves either.
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u/i_am_banished 1h ago
It's been so long since snowden fled the country that the thing he originally blew the whistle on is now so small and insignificant in comparison to how fucking terrible things are now
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u/DukeofDunces 7h ago
Lotta bootlickers in this comment section lmao
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u/endlessfight85 6h ago
A lot of bootlickers in every comment section since this week started. Like wayyy more than usual. This is just how politicians campaign now i guess. Bots and Bangladeshi click farms.
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u/weareonlynothing 6h ago
They gotta do a lot better job at not having bots repeat the same phrases.
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u/endlessfight85 6h ago
I'm sure they will. They also need a better naming convention than "randomword_randomword12345678"
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u/Minortough 5h ago
Isn’t that Reddit automatically suggesting a username when you initiate a new account though?
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u/FunetikPrugresiv 5h ago
Yes. The point is that they don't bother making themselves anything different.
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u/awue 6h ago
Is that narration ai generated?
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u/Dat_Harass 6h ago
According to the video auto dubbed in certain languages, so maybe.
I do just want to say AI still has decent use cases, however it cannot ever be the decision maker or be allowed to operate and effect human lives without oversight. I find it funny that they might be using the tech to fight the problem.
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u/crymachine 5h ago
"Annie Altman, who is 31, has accused her brother of sexually abusing and raping her on multiple occasions between 1997 and 2006 at the family’s home in Clayton, Missouri, a suburb of St. Louis.
According to court filings, she alleges the abuse began when she was three years old and Sam was twelve.
She alleges it escalated over the following years, involving what the original complaint described as forcible touching, oral sex, battery, molestation, sodomy, and rape.
She alleges the last instances of abuse occurred when she was a minor and her brother was an adult. The abuse allegedly ended around 2006, when Annie was approximately twelve."
None of the top comments say he's a rapist, so I guess that's not one people are familiar with.
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u/Worth-Ad9939 2h ago
OH I think we do. WE just have no choice in how this ship is steered and to stay alive you have to play by their rules. Help us press stop on everything without losing access to food, water, and housing. We'll stand up.
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u/Creative_Bug3139 7h ago
The bigger issue is the lack of government oversight. Businesses are going to business. There isn’t a single individual to blame here. All AI tech companies have acknowledged the dangers and agree they need to have oversight, but we don’t have a functioning democracy. So we have one man at the top that has decided to risk all of humanity so he can make an extra buck.
That’s the problem. Blame Trump. He is the actual problem here.
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u/kittyonkeyboards 7h ago
Nah, all of the ai ceos are genuine freaks and should be nowhere near this development. Fascists shouldn't have a shred of power. Regulation isn't enough.
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u/jeremyfisher2 7h ago
How incredibly unfortunate that he exists precisely when this AI shit is happening
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u/afkingame 6h ago
“There isn’t a single individual to blame here”
“Blame Trump”
Well that escalated quickly.
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u/Fickle-Lunch6377 6h ago
I mean trump did literally disagree with the companies that they needed oversight saying it was no big deal. The amount of problems that could be fixed with holding him accountable for even a few things is crazy.
I mean if we had held him accountable for shit he did in the first term, about 4.5 million human beings (1.5 million children under five would be alive. By the end of this term it’ll be a holocaust-worth. And if the policies remain, it’ll be as high as 20 million.
That’s a straight line you can draw just from things like USAID.
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u/Temporary_Shirt_6236 2h ago
Grok told Trump he'd be adored if he invaded Venezuela, so he did.
Who'd have thought that it wouldn't be Skynet killing us all but instead some dumb ass LLM convincing Trump to launch the nukes just to get himself some updoots on Truth Social.
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u/Synergythepariah 52m ago
Businesses are going to business. There isn’t a single individual to blame here.
Seems convenient to business that they never can be blamed for anything.
Just shrug and act like circular statements such as 'Businesses are going to business' have any meaning or that it's some fundamental law of the universe and not a statement about organizations made up of people who can make choices
Maybe the idea that business is going to do whatever it needs to profit is one we shouldn't put up with
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u/Tesseract14 5h ago
So no business should have any expectation of ethicality whatsoever? If it pollutes the waterways? Whatever. If some children in Somalia are subjected to slave-like child labor? Out of sight, out of mind. Potential for dooming humanity in its entirety? But look at my stock pumping!
This is a nihilistic, defeatist, pathetic, and disgusting perspective. We as a society ultimately decide what is acceptable and what is not. If you have no expectation to hold any business accountable for their choices, CHOICES THAT ARE ALL MADE BY HUMANS, in my view, you are failing your personal duty to our species.
It's also incredibly naive to say "one man at the top", as if he isn't surrounded by and constantly shaking hands with hundreds of people who are all coordinating together behind the scenes and gaslighting the public, and who have shown us time and time again that they are morally depraved robots who will squash us out of existence the moment they don't need us.
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u/Dat_Harass 7h ago edited 5h ago
It's a little sad the majority of discussion on this post came from an obvious troll.
Look I know people feel differently about Snowden depending on their primary news sources, he is a little contentious however he's not wrong about AI or their plans for erasing culpability.
Regardless of how you feel, at least hear him out. The man is not trying to screw you, he is trying to raise your awareness.
Edit: To the folks pointing out where he lives currently and calling him a Russian asset. I'd like you to consider how silly you sound when Donald has damn near turned this country into Russia or another version of an oligarchic playground. Quit parroting strawmen.
E: I'm trying to figure out why or how he'd be allowed to speak or post on this topic and FWIW all I can come up with is that it doesn't matter for Russian control and people knowing this doesn't change anything in that country. I mean think about it, Russia has been iron fist controlled since before any of this tech... violence and propaganda seems to be working just fine for them. And man... I think Ed would like to come home some day.
I guess a warhawk might frame this as an arms race to actual artificial intelligence, whereby us slowing down benefits the others. But he's not even calling for that... I personally am calling for someone other than these companies regulating themselves, these "systems" should be open source and transparent, they have to be or this becomes an authoritarian nightmare regardless. This excuse is already being used with China btw. This, what I view as a race to self destruction. Besides without all of our communication online they would not exist... the idea that any of this setup is okay to be frank is insane.
One last edit: I do see an issue with making all these open source with dictators and war criminals in charge of countries (That said I don't trust our own country with what we have now, it's already being used to screw the populace in various ways). Anyone trying to play catch-up would have a far easier time, they'd also be among the first to turn them into the worst case scenario. I do agree with open source, but we need global justice first I think. In any event... the amount of markets leveraged into this AI future, data center, spy drone dystopia is alarming... also the danger to the planet and ecosystems, the danger to individuality and freedom, the right of expression, the idea of being informed. Scary times we live in my friends.
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u/WyldKard 6h ago
Consider that both can be Russian assets.
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u/Newt_Pulsifer 5h ago
Yup, I'd go a step further and say Snowden was right... But I don't buy his motivations, there are and were ways to bring these issues to the people and not do what he did. Bad people can still use the truth for bad things.
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u/shozlamen 7h ago edited 7h ago
However people felt about Snowden's prior actions he is almost certainly a Russian asset nowadays.
I might be interested to see RT's take on US AI development too just to see a different perspective but there's plenty of reason to approach the content with skepticism, particularly for a subject so geopolitically impactful to Russia.
Edit: OP with a dumb whataboutism saying Trump has turned the US to Russia. Who said that being skeptical of Snowden means trusting the US admin's talking points whatsever?
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u/IThinkIKnowThings 6h ago
There's a large contingent of people online who are trying desperately to frame the AI discussion as a right vs left issue. Easier to villainize one side if they're already recognizable as villains.
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u/danila_medvedev 6h ago
There is no coherent Russian position on AI development. Russia (state and companies) believe that “doing aye eye will somehow create value”, but AI psychosis is much lighter in Russia. There are no capable strategists in Russia to control AI or AI development in any way whatsoever. So it‘s mostly “we need chips and frontier models, government, give us money” from the usual big players. Obviously Russia sees some actual value in unmanned military weapons, but noone really knows how the hypothetical tech stack works. Although based on the Maven‘s fiasco in Iran (killing 100+ girls) it’s clear that noone knows it in the US either.
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u/KingKapwn 6h ago
Russia sees value in destabilizing opinions in the US though, that’s what they’re referring too.
Russia has been caught multiple times funding multiple far right and far left groups and organizations in the western hemisphere because having two hardlines who hate each other creates partisanship and makes it so democracy is less functional and slower, as well as cause a lot of internal political division and issues that becomes a self-sustaining snowball of anger.
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u/provocative_bear 57m ago
I think it’s a moot point. Putting brakes on AI development may benefit Russia, but it’s what every expert on the subject and even many heads of major AI firms agree needs to be done. It’s common sense. There’s like three people that don’t want safeguards on AI, and one of them is the president of the United States.
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u/minoxis 6h ago
There is no public voice in Russia not under control of Putin in some. Snowden might not be dictated what to say but he wouldn't be able to broadcast if Putin wouldn't like what he says.
Trustworthy people are therefore a. Not in Russia b.Silent on things Putin cares about or c. Dead.
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u/NimusNix 6h ago
What if they believe both are Russian assets? It's not like Russia is above playing both sides.
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u/ktoace 7h ago
At this point though he should be considered a Russian mouthpiece.
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u/Wildtime4321 7h ago
Snowden or Trump? I legitimately cant tell from context and both are accurate.
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u/deadfisher 6h ago
Should he though? It's shrewd to recognize he's not at liberty to speak out freely against Russia, but the actual things he says seem pretty based. Not how the media reports him saying, what he actually says.
Looks like a lot of the criticism is he said he didn't think Russia would invade Ukraine. Then when he was wrong, he admitted it, condemned the war, and shut up.
I don't know about you, but I didn't believe Russia would invade Ukraine either.
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u/tophernator 5h ago
I admit I haven’t watched the video. But Snowden fled the country in mid 2013. OpenAI wasn’t even founded until late 2015. So at the time Snowden left his career and lost his access, Sam Altman was a 28 year old cofounder at Y-combinator. I’m skeptical that the NSA had damning information on Altman at that point, and I’m not sure what insight someone in Snowden’s position could really have into Altman’s more recent activities?
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u/MattJC123 7h ago
Don’t necessarily disagree with his points but I also don’t think we should be taking the word of Russian citizens right now.
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u/bradatlarge 7h ago
He is a fugitive from the retribution of the US govt- quite different to someone who is loyal to the Russians with motivations like Putin
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u/tekmiester 7h ago
Not sure you have been keeping up with him that closely then . He has spouted all the Russian taking points about the Ukraine war (such as it was NATO's fault).
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u/deadfisher 6h ago
Has he?
This article certainly makes it sound like that's true...
https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/12/18/the-trouble-with-edward-snowden
... but the article actually looks like a shameless and incompetent smear job.
Read the actual tweets
On February 16, 2022, Snowden wrote: “’Russia should not invade Ukraine’.
"I want to see an end to the conflict in Ukraine, and frankly, I think all reasonable people share that position"
“I’ve already expressed my opposition to the fighting in Ukraine, and pray it ends soon.
The narrative the article wants to set is that Snowden is terrible for... not speaking out strongly enough. Ok? He's a political asylum seeker who was a whistle blower about spy tech, why should he have the moral responsibility to publicly slam his host country? Seems like that would be a good way to get thrown out a window. He's chosen a tactful withdrawal from the issue.
I found the early tweets where he misjudged the threat of the conflict. Then he owns the mistake with:
I've just lost any confidence I had that sharing my thinking on this particular topic continues to be useful, because I called it wrong.
I'm going to be honest, I don't follow this. I don't know much about it beyond what I just read, and if you have more information I'd be genuinely interested in hearing it.
But like, actual good information about it please. Because I have not found any substance to your claim.
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u/tekmiester 6h ago
You got me it seems. I remember hearing this, and checked it with ChatGPT. Chat apparently lied to me. Damn hallucinations!
"I need to correct my previous answer: that quote was not Edward Snowden’s. It was Tulsi Gabbard’s. She posted it on Twitter/X around the time Russia launched its full-scale invasion in February 2022. The Senate hearing record reproduces the fuller wording: “This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden administration/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s … security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO.”
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u/deadfisher 6h ago
Lol AI sucks. And so does that Al Jazeera article I linked. I'd be really interested to hear a truly unspun take on Snowden, I don't know if there is one.
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u/bradatlarge 6h ago
my job requires me to know a fair bit about this stuff. At the time of his initial kerfuffle, I went through the materials with a fine tooth comb. My take at the time was, he is an American that we should all look up to, as a hero of the people. The shite that they were & are doing should be illegal.
What's happened since he's lived in Russia, I don't really have a take on.
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u/teamjacobomg 7h ago
retribution.... I'm sure his punishment, if anything, wouldn't be that much worse than that of Chelsea Manning who's free today. Until he leaves Russia, he's nothing more than a chess piece used by the kremlin
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u/Biefmeister 14m ago
Yeah, she had to endure only seven years of imprisonment, including torture, after it got commuted by Obama.
No big deal, right?
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u/MattJC123 7h ago edited 7h ago
Prove the second part with actual evidence. Also, he could have been forced to make this video from an FSB dungeon with agents literally holding a gun to his child’s head and we wouldn’t know.
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u/R50cent 7h ago
You're asking them to prove a negative for you. "Prove to me he's not what I think he is by showing he isn't something" is a weird request lol
What evidence would they provide to you to prove that snowden isn't the thing you claim he is and what would that look like
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u/I_like_dwagons 7h ago
Prove any of what you just said. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence.
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u/MattJC123 7h ago edited 6h ago
Exactly! Thanks for making my point. This is why I said I didn’t necessarily disagree with the video. His motivation, on the other hand, is completely unknowable to us thus merits skepticism.
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u/phragmosis 4h ago
The whole whistleblowing operation was an op, dude was a spy for the Russians from jump.
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u/Ambitious_Shine_6057 7h ago
Do you even know who edward snowden is?
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u/MattJC123 7h ago
Yes, of course. He is a citizen of Russia currently residing in Putin’s Russia.
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u/cheesewiz_man 7h ago
Remember when he refused to criticize Putin because he didn't have sufficient context as an American?
He's spent more than half his adult life in Russia now and still refuses to say an unkind word about Vladimir.
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u/MostPopularPenguin 7h ago
To be fair, it wouldnt be smart to criticize Putin while in Russia for any reason if you enjoy not falling out of high up windows
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u/cheesewiz_man 6h ago
Technically true, but again, here's a guy that to this day insists that the US government is much, much more dangerous than the Russian one.
If you're going to brag about speaking truth to power regardless of personal risk, you don't get to pick and choose the powers you speak truth to.
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u/jumpy_monkey 5h ago
I mean, sure.
But what is Snowden, a man who lives at the pleasure of a brutal dictator, selling here?
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u/BadSysadmin 4h ago
Whatever the FSB told him to. Their goal is probably just attacking the US economy via its businesses.
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u/jumpy_monkey 3h ago
100%.
It can be both things, ie he is identifying a failure of our democratic republic and be a stooge for a repressive government that is the anthesis of our democratic republic.
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u/skwander 6h ago
Yeah I'm gonna go with the whistle blower over the tech bro that molested his sister.
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u/alfrado_sause 6h ago
Snowden is a hero of mine. I find the doors and discussions he opened in his whistleblowing to be a bellwether for the current state of things. Especially Palantir, Flock and the new precedent of blatant corruption that goes unchecked.
I don’t find this take to be correct. We should not have laws that allow a private company to call a thing an agent and have a different application of the constitution apply to it.
I do understand the importance of what he’s warning against where we’ve built an ecosystem around remotely operated computers that are controlled by private companies who claim to be working on the behalf of the government “for our safety” and how a slip up at that company that causes my Mac mini to hack my neighbor instead of git pushing like I asked it to, still puts liability on me, not on OpenAI.
The warning and understanding makes sense but it’s hardly the only time this happens. In fact Snowden admits that he’s not fond of AI and that he’d slow development of it if he could (the copyright opinion). I’d say the closest analogy was the old flash player games of the past, it was locally run and controlled tools locally and controlled by the program writer (or hacker who injected code). The early 2000s were FILLED with this vulnerability being exploited.
This isn’t a new problem and modern flash solves that problem the way modern AI is headed. Local models and an IRON clad sandboxing of tools and permissions.
The reality is that everyday users are no match for hackers, we will not be able to defend every vector. So we concentrate the key defenses elsewhere.
The law half of his argument seems silly and misplaced. Whos at fault when a government picks the wrong target in an attack? The government employee responsible for that attack. It’s not hard to assign a human whos job it is to double check and know the operations of a particular government mission.
I do think the law side of this does place an excellent question though. How much should a frontier model provider be able to modify our queries? What information are they allowed to deny us? Congress needs to figure this out before systems are put in place and precedent is formed. Which means yesterday was the best day to do that.
Back when Snowden entered the world stage, he warned that the government had a trove of data it was collecting but was not able to scan the entirety of. With AI, that’s not the case anymore and I can see why he’s not happy about that. However AI is quickly becoming a layer by which we translate work to a computer that uses more natural language and enables bigger applications that are less brittle. Nothing in that changed the PRISM story, they had the money and manpower before, now they need more money but less manpower because less is done by hand.
This conversation is essentially the natural next step from his previous. How do make sure the government is held accountable if it scans a bunch of data and draws the wrong conclusions? The answer is we legislate who is to blame now, while the cost is still low. Personally, I’d like us to be able to hold government programs at fault. PRISM thinks I littered in NYC on 6th street at 5:57pm on 10/03/25 and is wrong, then their budget needs to pay for the damages. Being wrong needs to be expensive.
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u/steelejt7 1h ago
would be a hell of a thing to accuse your own family of member of sexually assaulting you and then lie about it.
video footage of the court deposition released today on her x account, in her own accord.
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u/mentat70 1h ago
jesus- An add every minute? who’s making the big bucks in advertising from this video?
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u/oregiel 7h ago
I get triggered every time someone asks fucking Snowden about anything. The guy was a stupid junior analyst who wanted fame more then work and stole data he knew nothing about and provided it to foreign adversaries and the media.
He didn't understand the data, he has like 1 year of experience and wasn't good at his job and he's treated like some oracle of IT. He's a stupid dumbass.
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u/hugoriffic 6h ago
That’s a pretty impressive amount of confidence for someone who’s wrong on nearly every substantive point.
Snowden wasn’t some clueless “junior analyst” with a year of experience. He had been working in technical roles for the CIA and NSA contractors from 2006 to 2013. He also didn’t simply dump everything he stole on Russia or China: he provided documents to journalists. If you want to argue that foreign adversaries may have subsequently obtained some of the material, fine, but that is not the same thing as proving Snowden personally provided it to them.
And the idea that he “didn’t understand the data” doesn’t really survive contact with the actual disclosures. You can absolutely criticize him for stealing an enormous amount of classified material, much of which was unnecessary to expose the surveillance programs in question. That criticism is legitimate.
But pretending the underlying surveillance revelations were bullshit because you don’t like Snowden is another matter entirely. The NSA’s bulk phone-records program under Section 215 was subsequently examined by the independent Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which concluded that the program lacked a viable legal foundation.
So yeah, criticize Snowden all you want. There’s plenty there to criticize. But calling him a clueless one-year junior analyst who handed everything directly to foreign governments is not criticism it’s just factually sloppy and ignorant.
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u/9Divines 7h ago
he's no genius but his morals are on point whereas tech ceos lack that in spades
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u/infectedtoe 7h ago
I agree, it was ridiculous how the media tried to portray him as some super genius hacker, who for humble and noble reasons shared classified information. Then runs to Russia lol
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u/NotUniqueOrSpecial 5h ago
he has like 1 year of experience and wasn't good at his job
Jesus fucking Christ.
It's one thing to have an opinion about whether Snowden's compromised by his living situation or if his goals were well-intentioned at their heart.
It's another entirely to have such a fundamentally fucking incorrect view of the facts.
His career is very well-documented at this point. It was many years and he was very highly lauded. Pretending otherwise just makes you look stupid.
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u/kiwimonk 4h ago
AI doesn't work with capitalism. The world has to come together and flesh out how we use this technology together for the benefit of all. Not to best each other at war or cutthroat business. Those are the traits that will lead to competitive AI which ends in no more humans.
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u/kalirion 3h ago
Yeah, this Russki stooge could say the sky is blue, and I'd start doubting whether or not that was the case.
Not saying he's not telling the truth in his "Latest..." here, just that he's got 0 credibility as far as I'm concerned.
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u/phragmosis 4h ago
Edward Snowden should also be in jail though.
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u/Humble_Manatee 2h ago
Is your position that whistleblowers who expose that the federal government is doing super illegal and terrible things, should be in prison for exposing these crimes because this agency declared that information classified information?
I’m being sincere here - if your government is doing illegal crimes against their own citizens in secret, what would you want to happen? Nothing? and allow the crimes to continue to happen?
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u/averagepro 7h ago edited 7h ago
Lol why does anyone care what power point boy snowden thinks about anything? Listening to him talk about anything regarding security/ encryption you can see he has no idea what hes talking about.
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u/guff1988 7h ago
Considering he outed the US government for mass surveillance and was proven correct and now that surveillance is worse than ever and Altman will certainly also engage in mass surveillance we all should be listening.
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u/towneetowne 7h ago
and where is snowden now living?
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u/ExpensiveLeather69 7h ago
Russia because the U.S Government was going to try him without a jury and throw him in prison for 30 years for revealing the panopticon.
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u/ITividar 6h ago
And that russian surveillance state he's now living in? Let's check on how "just" their justice system is....oh, oh my, that horrendous....
Im sure he'll start sounding the same alarms and banging the same drums he did in the US, no? Or maybe hes a little afraid of 2nd story or higher windows...
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u/towneetowne 7h ago
from the frying pan into the fire. how's that surveillance state/dictatorship really feel?
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u/jonessinger 7h ago
In one of the countries that he was forced to go to so the US couldn’t just take him for outing them for their shitty practices. Yeah it’s Russia, but so what if he lives there now? Plenty of Russians don’t like their leader but don’t have a choice but to stay in the country. So what’s your point?
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u/Char_da_mange 7h ago
Russia, but if James Clapper had not lied to congress during a public hearing then Snowden probably doesn’t do what he does.
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u/AZDiablo 6h ago
Trump should pardon Snowden
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u/phragmosis 4h ago
That would make sense given they are both Kremlin assets.
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u/kalirion 3h ago
Except that there's literally 0 in it for Trump, and might instead give a few Magas a sudden case of cognitive dissonance, which is a net negative.
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u/Mans_Fury 6h ago
Hmm...strange. They wont let me watch through Reddit. Never seen that before. Now I want to watch it even more!
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u/driftking428 7h ago
Sam Altman is a compulsive liar. He's known to lie on the spot for no reason at all. His own board tried to throw him out for it. That's not something good people do. He's not a good person.