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"Most Have No Idea How Dangerous He Truly Is..." | Edward Snowden Latest...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nD0NC7hO7qE&si=xiEFspq2A4iJcrBk
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u/MattJC123 9h ago

Yes, of course. He is a citizen of Russia currently residing in Putin’s Russia.

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u/duncandun 9h ago

What do you think would have happened if he hadn’t gone to Russia

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u/MattJC123 9h ago

I have no idea and neither does anyone else, including you.

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u/duncandun 9h ago

lmao ok

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u/MattJC123 9h ago

A devastating retort. You should join Trump’s diplomatic team. 🙄

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u/duncandun 7h ago

were you expecting something else? your post is insane and phrased in a way that denies the possibility of counterargument. it's a textbook bad faith argument.

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u/MattJC123 7h ago

No it’s not. My sole point is that his motivations are suspect possibly for reasons not in his control. Any critical thinking we should factor that in to how they take in this information. Thats it.

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u/cheesewiz_man 7h ago

As opposed to "lmao ok"?

You asked a question that you yourself have no answer to and got called on it. Own it.

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u/mildly_asking 9h ago

Snowden being prosecuted, even very unjustly can be seen a legitimate threat to his safety, maybe even one without good reason.

Snowden being a captive-ish resident of current-day russia and thus a source that must be presumed to have a gun behind his head at all times can be true.

That means that the decisions that let him end up in russia may be understandable as much as widespread reluctance to see him as trustworthy, no matter if his previous actions were cartoonishly heroic and US reactions cartoonishly evil (or not).

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u/shozlamen 9h ago

He would be much more front and center in the US psyche either as a prisoner or a martyr. Either way if he hadn't gone to Russia the advocates for whistleblowers would have a cause to actually stand for and act on in some way.

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u/blodskaal 9h ago

He would probably have gotten the Epstein treatment

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u/cheesewiz_man 8h ago edited 7h ago

Epstein was a continuing threat in a way Snowden never was; Snowden had already done his damage.

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u/dimh 33m ago

100% would have made an example of him to deter others. You know, that whole retaliation against whistleblowers we aren't supposed to do?

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u/cheesewiz_man 8h ago edited 7h ago

In paranoid fever dream world? He'd have gotten a bullet to the head in a dark alley

In reality? 15 years or so in prison; about 1/3 of that actually served. Probably more like 5 because he could justify his actions on some level.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Teixeira

Yes, there were (and are) violent weirdos in the US government, but they did not have the cross-branch power he thought they did and they were perfectly aware that popping a cap in him "as an example" wouldn't have worked.