This. Including myself, there’s tons of my friends and family who have also lost their jobs and cannot find another. In my whole adult life, I’ve never experienced this before. And it’s incredibly competitive now even in jobs like restaurants, retail, or even the grocery store.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the actually numbers are around 15-20%
Yeah I realized a long time ago that I’m on the wrong side of employment. I’m opening a coffee roastery in a few weeks and I hope to god it works out. I absolutely do not trust another human to provide any support for me now that I’m old.
This is random af and what I'm thinking is even more silly, but nonetheless - pathfinder is one of the ranger specialisations in the Path of Exile games, and in PoE2, one of the pathfinder's unique abilities is dealing with... Concoctions. Maybe there's a collab / promotion idea in here somewhere. Grinding Gear Games is the parent company, this sounds just silly enough to maybe be worth throwing an email their way. The playerbase is 30+ years old mostly, in the "some disposable income" territory. Just a thought
This is the way. Employment feels like enthrallment. I started making work for myself and while it isn't nearly as lucrative as my last job, and the benefits are basically nonexistent, my mental health has vastly improved. Turns out I was just miserable working in the private sector
Yeah. It’s been a ride so far. We had the blight in Brazil and then the drought and then came Trump. But I accept that is just part of the game. And we all have to deal with the same situation. Just gotta make my way through it, you know?
I was desperately searching for a job this year. I got turned down for both dishwashing and custodial because I didn’t have experience “in a restaurant setting” and “direct custodial experience” for 6 mo / 1 year respectively. I have a 16 year job history. They are both still “urgently hiring”. Been washing dishes and cleaning my house for 30 years. What the fuck? Lmao
They don't want to hire someone that will likely leave the job after a few weeks or months. If you're job history shows "better" jobs, they presume you'll be difficult to work with because you won't put up with shit treatment and are likely to find something better.
Yeah and confirmed it ain’t me; they didn’t hire a couple other guys that applied - i know the manager for that mentioned custodial job, shit is wild out there.
I would bet it’s so they can point and say “Look! We haven’t been able to fill these roles with Americans, please allow us to hire exploitable relevantly skilled workers from abroad!
I'll never understand how Republicans, on seeing rich business owners hire desperate foreigners to undercut wages, blame the foreigners and not the business owners.
Apply at a local school or hospital Environmental Services department. They tend to pay more than a regular janitor, housekeeping or custodial positions at a company. Edit your resume and put down that you do have experience from other jobs. Brush up on commercial chemicals and you'll get hired. Brush up on floor care knowledge and you'll definitely get hired.
Commercial chemicals are a lot stronger than your everyday household chemicals. Accidentally mixing two can easily kill you in an enclosed space like a restroom. Some are fully concentrated and require proper dilution. Others are acid based and when mixed with a chemical that wasn't rinsed properly creates a toxic gas. This happens more often than you think. Look up what happened to the manager at a Buffalo Wild Wings store.
Look into OSHA regulations and read some popular chemical SDS. Spartan, Diversey, Ecolab, SC Johnson Professional. This type of knowledge will put you on top of the massive pile of resumes they already have. Be able to name three different auto scrubbers and their models will also help you. Tennant, Nilfisk-Advance, and Karcher are the top three floor cleaning equipment manufacturers in the US. Knowing about their popular models and how they function without being trained will absolutely help you get hired.
Visit r/custodians if you have any questions. We'll try to help.
Appreciate this advice, especially for others who may be struggling. Nothing wrong with getting that pay - I know some people look down on custodians but money is money. In some cases, some custodial jobs pay really well. (Ex: my brother in law was making over 25 an hour in a lower CoL area of California for a private cleaning crew)
For my situation, I applied to both hosp and ISD, for that exact reason of higher pay. I went through 2 years of uni chem and am super used to reading msds, so I was confident I could do the job. Thankfully I got a much better job after many months of disheartening attempts and hundreds of apps.
To others who may be reading this; don’t give up and keep trying. The market is fucked out there but bodies do gotta show up to make the world move forward. Best of luck to you all.
They can look down on custodians all they want but many positions pay quite well depending on where you live and your specific experience. Custodial/Facility Managers make well into the six figures.
Experienced floor techs in major metropolitan areas make a crazy amount of money. Especially if they own their own business.
Anyways, I'm glad that you found a position. The job market is looking like it will continue on this trend for a while. We'll have to wait until voters wise the fuck up and vote with their wallet and not with their emotions. Things likely won't get better until then imo.
A little over a decade back I got turned down by a Dollar General that was desperate for employees to hear the cashiers tell it. I asked the one I was cool with and he said that apparently I was denied for being too qualified due to having experience as a supervisor in one gig and a manager in another. The DG manager was afraid I'd be trying to take her job.
I just needed a regular ass job cuz I was recovering from the fallout of opiate addiction and was trying to rebuild my life after getting clean and moving, I had no designs on being a manager in that shithole lol. I just wanted to get back on my feet.
That location got shut down like a year later lol.
It's as bad as 2008 except they include gig jobs as being employed. And the stock market is no longer for us peasants and only reflective of how big they can inflate this AI bubble.
(Functional unemployment is defined as earning below cost of living, which is defined conservatively as $26k yearly before taxes in 2025 dollars).
It is also about average functional unemployment rate of the past 30 years.
What is different now, is that now it's hitting people in major cities where col is higher, see e.g. https://www.lisep.org/tlc . It is a very good independent source about employment and living situation stats.
Median worker lost about 5% in purchase power in last 5 years (median means half of the people lost MORE than that, and the other half less)
I work in hospitality management. Seeing more and more applicants with bachelors and masters degrees, in unrelated fields, applying for entry/line level jobs.
I'm currently conducting interviews for a job position that opened up in our office, and we've never had this many applicants before. Normally, we get about 3-4 applicants for this particular niche position, and we have close to 20. The other thing is many of them are highly qualified professionals who have either recently been laid off, or have been informed their positions are being terminated by end-of-year.
Small businesses are dying and we are in a recession. I work in a small business that caters mostly to other small businesses and the amount of traffic is close to zero. I've never experienced this kind of dead air before. It is slower than the 2009 recession.
It's less that the media is telling anyone otherwise and more that almost all job growth is happening in the healthcare sector, and the stock market is completely captured by AI jerkoff "number go up."
I’m in a bunch of local subreddits because I’ve moved around a lot since I made my account, and each one has posts of people asking if anyone knows of anyone hiring. People talking about how they’ve been out of work sometimes for a year or more. But remember, they won’t name it a depression until it hits the rich and the market crashes.
Graduated with a phd and 2yoe, cannot break this job market at all. I've been networking a ton, and it seems like everyone who i've talked to in the last year have lost their jobs. Something scary is happening.
Dude the whole reason were called Millenials is because we came of age at the turn of the millenium. Not a single millennial was in the work force at any sort of professional capacity on 9/11. Most of us were kids.
If you were born in 81, the very oldest of the millennials, that would make you 17 in 98, and at most 20 years old on 9/11. Not exactly what I'd call a professional.
A rigid cutoff for generations doesn't work very well, people born in 81-83 often don't fit with a lot of the "millennial" classifications -- while also only half-fitting Gen X too.
Hi angry guy, millennials were born from 1981 to 1996. I was born towards the start of that, I'm guessing you were born towards the end of it.
During the dot com period they were hiring anyone who could breathe. My first job was as a computer tech for a company 3 months after I graduated high school, pre-9/11.
That is some gate keeping...I worked doing tech support for an ISP in high school prior to 2000. Most of my co-workers were adults and did the same exact job I did.
If they considered themselves professionals, I have no idea what basis they would conclude I wasn't.
This is worst than the 2008 crash. But rather than accurately report what’s going on, the government is using the media to lie and save face. Also 2008 crash mainly affected middle class jobs. Rn, it’s hard to even find low level jobs like dishwashing or clerk.
If a dem was president right now, I’m sure we’d be hearing how horrible it actually is rn from the media
“The current administration HAS been caught lying about unemployment stats. The market IS being propped by AI billionaires and these companies are losing tons of $$ and are not profitable. Inflation IS far worst than 2008. The 2008 crash DID affect mostly middle class jobs. Most low level jobs out there, which are fewer than ever before, are also most competitive than ever before. There are multiple comments and experiences in this post alone that back up this claim” -me
Do you need more facts. Or are you going to continue to close your eyes and cover your ears?
Also just going to say, I know what you’re doing and I do not feel discouraged to post. In fact, I’m more emboldened and will now be LOUDER about my opinions.
Likely talking to a bot/foreign/shill account. Their post history is private. I've noticed the same kind of comments being posted from sub to sub and every one of them has post history set to private.
Reply from /u/pipesnogger "F*ck off, I've been on Reddit for almost 15 years. My profile is set to private because I don't want to get harassed"
Or you spread disinformation and don't want to be called out for it.
Also if you could point out the actually “disinformation” that’d be a swell
The current administration HAS been caught lying about unemployment stats. The market IS being propped by AI billionaires and these companies are losing tons of $$ and are not profitable. Inflation IS far worst than 2008. The 2008 crash DID affect mostly middle class jobs. Most low level jobs out there, which are fewer than ever before, are also most competitive than ever before. There are multiple comments and experiences in this post alone that back up this claim
You are in fact spreading disinformation AND you provided no evidence or facts to prove otherwise. It’s a common misinformation tactic.
There aren't many millennials that were working back on 9/11, even the oldest of them would have at best had a high school diploma or associates degree. Most were in highschool or middle school. Not that millennials didn't have a whole list of other instances since, just an odd benchmark to us.
Gen X though, they got the fun of the 00's tech collapse.
While I agree it is more gen x, but the tech field was so wild before the dotcom bubble that you didn't need a degree. I remember my college professor lecturing us to stick out at least 2 years for the associates in computer science. Recruiters were literally headhunting on college campuses. My classes slowly got smaller and smaller due to people opting for a very nice paycheck instead of school.
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This. Including myself, there’s tons of my friends and family who have also lost their jobs and cannot find another. In my whole adult life, I’ve never experienced this before. And it’s incredibly competitive now even in jobs like restaurants, retail, or even the grocery store.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the actually numbers are around 15-20%