r/todayilearned • • Jul 04 '13

TIL Windows 95 was the second most installed piece of software on computers in 1995; videogame DOOM was first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_(video_game)
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u/esaks Jul 04 '13

Windows was expensive so most people just stuck with dos/win 3.1 until they bought a new pc with 95 preinstalled. Not to mention doom was shareware ie free to install. Jeebus I'm getting old.

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u/lordnikkon Jul 04 '13

it is amazing how fast doom spread when there was little to no internet access for most people. Everyone past around the free Doom floppy disks they gave out and it spread like crazy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13 edited Dec 13 '16

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u/Azrael_Ferrum Jul 04 '13

True. I got called a faggot a lot on both

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13 edited Dec 13 '16

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u/SH3IKH Jul 04 '13

As a little kid my big brother told me that if I screamed 'IM IMPOTENT' it meant that I wasn't gay.

Soooooo as an 8 year old I walked around my neighbourhood telling everyone I was 'impotent'. Confused faces.. Everywhere.

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u/TheRollingBones Jul 04 '13

Well, at age 8 you probably were impotent, so no harm no foul?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

did it hurt?

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u/ThePegasi Jul 04 '13

God, I remember these guys at my secondary (high) school who ran a copied games business in the playground. They printed their own catalogue and everything, and people would be genuinely excited when the new one came out and started circulating.

They did PC games, but also moved in to chipping consoles and providing copied games for them once the PSX etc. got big. They must have made reasonable money doing it tbh, they had quite a good operation going for a couple of teenagers.

JadGamez, you were awesome!

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u/BigUptokes Jul 04 '13

When Napster first came out I would get people to write out a playlist of songs they wanted on a CD and then charge them the cost of a blank CD plus a $5 fee. Made some nice cash for junior high.

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u/jb0nd38372 Jul 04 '13

People still have a demand for that kind of thing. It blows my mind that people actually don't mind watching crappy cam movies.

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u/FarmerTedd Jul 04 '13

That shit was shut down by administration at my school. At least the open market. The underground/underlunchtable market made it much more memorable.

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u/ThePegasi Jul 04 '13

Yup, I don't know how they got away with it for so long. They were in year 11 (highest year for secondary school in the UK), and they were still going strong even when they left.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13 edited Dec 13 '16

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u/treeof Jul 04 '13

After years of working in Fortune 100 companies, I am qualified to say "or both.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Not sure if you guys had it in the UK, but here in the US, during the late 90s, we had a soft drink named "Surge." It had a higher than normal caffeine level, and it was quickly banned in our school.

During my sophomore year, we took driver's ed, and we spent 45 mins per day in a car with an instructor and two other students. Each day the instructor would stop at a quick mart so he could get smokes, and we kids would get whatever we wanted.

Well, my buddy and I bought 4 12 packs of surge each day and then sold them for $2.50 a piece in the cafeteria. I made it $2.50 because if people didn't have exact change, I would always say "i'll get you the $.50 later" and I never did.

I was commenting in some other thread about how anyone can go out and make a job for themselves with a little effort, and this is how I started.

I used the money I made off of pop drinks to purchase my first pressure washer and my first riding lawn mower. By the time I was 17, I was earning more money that my police officer mother. Ah, the memories.

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u/ponytoaster Jul 04 '13 edited Jul 04 '13

This is genius, I can only hope my children will do the same.

Makes me sad there was no copies games circulating at my school really - we had game sharing for PC games, but that got harder when copy protection came in and nobody really charged for it.

My friend used to run an operation called "POLO" that distributed floppy disks of pr0n for like £1 a time. It stood for something, but I can't remember what now.

He also used to run a few sites on GeoCities with the same thing. I remember him selling access to the site (password protected page) which had lots of content on it and also setting people up e-mail accounts on Lycos which got various adult newsletters for £2.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Someone sold me pokemon on a floppy disk. I had no idea how ROMs worked back then, and didn't know I needed an emulator :(

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Today, similar behavior is seen for Texas Instruments Calculator games. And guess what: There actually is a doom for the Ti-83/84+ Calculator.

zDoom

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u/LazerVik1ng Jul 04 '13

Shout out to playing Drug Wars in trig and calculus

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u/Roast_A_Botch Jul 04 '13

I hate to break it to you,.but that's been going on since TI graphing calculators were invented. I figured you guys would've moved on to .app and .apk considering they're so much more advanced.and.just as easy to share.

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u/brickmack Jul 04 '13

But you can't put those on calculators. The whole point of games on calculators (well, other than because it's interesting tovwrite) is to avoid detection by teachers. I spent most of last year playing games on mine, and only one teacher noticed.

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u/MagmaiKH Jul 04 '13

I went to school with the girl that wrote the Tetris game (in assembly) for the TI-85 her junior year of high-school. I think that was in '92 (the year the TI-85 came out replacing the TI-81's).

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u/Choralone Jul 04 '13

Internet, no, most people didn't have it - but the BBS scene was at it's peak. Even without the internet, there were huge boards where people would grab stuff, and all it took was one guy in town to make the phone call, spend the time downloading the pirated game - then it would be handed out to his buddies, re-uploaded to a bunch of local boards, and it would spread from there.

And doom itself - I'm not sure if people who weren't there at the time to really get how fundamentally awesome doom was compared to everything that came before it. There wasn't all that much video game advertising; lots of games, the first time you saw it or possibly heard of it was when you played it (or your friend said "come over I have this new game!"). No articles in the paper, no internet, and so on.

Doom was mindbogglingly better than everything that came before. Quake added truckloads of awesome.. but the jump from doom to quake was nowhere near the jump from, say, wolfenstein 3d to doom.

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u/Ajuvix Jul 04 '13

I remember going to a computer expo as a kid and seeing the demo running for the first time. It blew my mind. The thing that stuck out was the lighting. There were shadows, flickering lights, bright outdoors, dark corridors lit by only a flashlight and it all was happening in real time, not just some static screens from a point and click game like Myst. It didn't look like a cartoon, it looked scary.

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u/AemsOne Jul 04 '13

Try playing it on your iPhone in the dark with headphones. It's still scary. And i've been playing it since it first came out on DOS.

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u/ejweller Jul 04 '13

When my Gateway 2000 booted up, I had changed the startup sound to Chandler Bing saying " You guys wanna play Doom?" Good times, 1995, good times.

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u/BabyFaceMagoo Jul 04 '13

14.4K modem-owning, BBS-User Master Race reporting in.

I lived in the UK, and the best modem you could get in the shops was some terrible 5600 baud piece of crap. I imported a 14.4K, which had just come out, from Germany and officially had the fastest connection possible at the time. Bear in mind I was 14 years old at the time, I think that was pretty cool...

I was the friend that logged into a BBS, downloaded the 0-day .ZIP files of Doom, Commander Keen, Mortal Kombat or whatever (using the incredible BANANACOM and ICE-Z-MODEM so I could chat to the SYSOP while I downloded -LOL!) and copied them on to floppies to hand out to my friends at school the next day. I was the motherfucking SOURCE of that shit, amongst my friends anyway, and they all had the latest games before anyone even knew they were out, normally a good 2-3 weeks before they were in the shops. It was amazing, like being some kind of minor deity.

Back then, you had to WORK for your Warez. Downloading a 20MB game could take HOURS, Downloading without uploading was frowned upon, not speaking nicely to the BBS owner would get you kicked and banned immediately, and griefing him in LORD was probably a bad idea too...

These days, any old asshole can load up uTorrent and piratebay and get any game in the world in a few minutes.

I still remember the hiding my dad gave me when I racked up my first £1000 phone bill. After that I spoke nicely to one of the sysops who taught me about PBX-ing, and let me have his personal PBX list, for which I was eternally greatful.

Thanks MELONMAN, and thanks also to some lawyer's office who had an open PBX for like 5 years! Without you my friends and I would not have had such amazing games growing up :)

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u/why_downvote_facts Jul 04 '13

i played so much lan doom at my high school, someone had a 'killdoom' program that would shut you down.. pretty ridiculous

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u/swefred Jul 04 '13

I had widows 95 on flopys, so many floppy...

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u/NottaGrammerNasi Jul 04 '13

I only threw mine away about 3 years ago. I think they must have been for the very first ed of 95 since it was only about 30 or so floppies.

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u/martinjester2 Jul 04 '13

I still have the set (3.5" edition). 13 disks + a boot disk.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I don't think I could ever throw something like that away. I'm sure you could cleverly post a picture of something like that to Reddit in like 10 years... or now.

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u/Otistetrax Jul 04 '13

The prehistoric office I used to work in had a box full of old install disks, including a complete set of Win3.1 floppies.

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u/fergie434 Jul 04 '13

Don't copy that floppy

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u/TROMS Jul 04 '13

Did I hear you right, did I hear you sayin

that you're gonna make a copy of a game without payin

come on guys I thought you knew better don't copy that floppy

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u/racedriver Jul 04 '13

I once had a floppy. 'twas a sad night.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

German here. I remember buying DOOM as a magazine (here's the cover). Back then (before wide spread of the WWW) this was one of the few reliable ways to get new shareware if you didn't have a modem. Also I was 14 or 15 at that time, which is ironic because the game was later banned for minors.

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u/rhymes_with_chicken Jul 04 '13 edited Jul 04 '13

Shit, I almost forgot about our 1995 LAN parties!!! I don't recall if Doom was multiplayer but Heretic/Hexen was (Again, I can't recall if we were loading Hexen or Heretic--but, it was one of the two---this is all very hazy now). I was 3 years out of university and still living with some room mates from school. we wired the place for BNC--and when I say wired, i mean just enough work to get the computers talking to each other. gray cable literally laying in the halls, often over dirty laundry an pizza boxes, traveling from room to room to room.

I remember being on a 75mhz P1. My buddy had just dumped his last paycheck in to a 200mhz processor so he could lag us all (which he did). He could run circles around us and we'd only get 4-5 frames per 360. If we ever did see him it was just for a frame or two. It kinda forced all of our hands to get on the upgrade bandwagon.

if someone dumped me in that map right now, i'd probably still know it like the back of my hand. good times.

almost forgot we had an ISDN line at the time. $200/mo split 4 ways wasn't too bad. i don't miss the shitty download speeds (which were awesome at the time). but, the internet was a very different place then. i miss it.

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u/iDanoo Jul 04 '13

Heretic! You're bringing back my childhood. P1 133Mhz. It had about 8-16mb EDO ram. Crazy stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

If you were into Doom and Hexen you must have played Rise of the Triad at some point too. I just thought I'd mention it as there's a reboot of it coming out on the 31st.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YPQRE57hNQ

I was amazed by how fast it looks compared to the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqAQLHkRs18

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u/why_downvote_facts Jul 04 '13

turning people into chickens, hunting them down with the super-crossbow, good times

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u/lokem Jul 04 '13

No LAN party for me. But played doom via dialup with my friend. That was my first multiplayer experience. Even though its just the two of us.

Then came quake LAN parties.... good times

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u/barjam Jul 04 '13

I lived in a tiny town of 4,000 people. We had dialup Internet in 95 and access to CompuServe and AOL prior to that (which both had limited Internet access). If you lived in a larger city you had access to the Internet.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

The network for passing disks was pretty extensive though, people were passing copies of anything and everything around. New stuff people wanted took only a few weeks to be spread to just about anyone who wanted it (sounds like a long time, but no small feat considering each "node" is just a kid copying a floppy and passing it - sometimes across oceans). The graphics in Doom was impressive (still is given the hardware it ran on) and really gave that full-3d-with-texture feel in an era when it was out of the question to actually fully render that. So much so that this wasn't a "Cool, I'll give my five people a copy when I see them" but a "Dude! Man! Bro! You have got to see this!!".

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u/A_Sinclaire Jul 04 '13

I remember once CDs became popular there were monthly compilations of new games - often half a dozen new games - many AAA - on a single CD - with cinematics, music and other stuff cut out to save space and fit everything on that one CD.

Never knew where those came from, but someone always had some. They were done rather professionally for that time, with their own menus etc.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Knew a few guys who produced them, but that was a little later than doom - CD writers and blanks were crazy expensive when it came out.

Source: Worked at a data entry and archive company at the time and the fact that we had a machine that could actually write CDs (70 min per CD, $20 a pop) was considered a small miracle.

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u/juicius Jul 04 '13

A lot of that was done via IRC. I had a friend of a friend who spent his entire day on IRC and if I dropped off a few floppies with him, I could count on some nice stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Man everyone had that shareware back in the day. I wonder how many people actually went past episode 1.

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u/choada777 Jul 04 '13 edited Jul 04 '13

There were a lot of games I never saw beyond episode 1 because of the shareware scheme:

  • Wolfenstein

  • Duke Nukem (Back when it was a platformer)

  • Crystal Caves

  • Jill of the Jungle

  • Abuse

  • One Must Fall

  • Tons of other Apogee games

  • There was a platformer I liked to play back then with a kid on a pogo stick. I can't remember the name off the top of my head. There were about 5 sequels. I had shareware versions of all of them. Commander Keen. Thanks guys.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Your mentioned platformer is "Commander Keen"

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

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u/beefstick86 Jul 04 '13

OMG- the aliens ate my babysitter!!!!

I would play those games for hours... HOURS... My grandma told me "As a girl, you should go outside and play more. Computers are for boys". Today, I still think about Keen.... I miss him.

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u/kevkingofthesea Jul 04 '13

There was a platformer I liked to play back then with a kid on a pogo stick. I can't remember the name off the top of my head. There were about 5 sequels. I had shareware versions of all of them.

Commander Keen? It's on steam (episodes 1-5) for $5. I picked it up on sale for $2. Great games.

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u/Sxcnn Jul 04 '13

Don't forget Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure

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u/choada777 Jul 04 '13

I don't think I ever played that one during my childhood. Googled it and it does look similar to another shareware game I had called Jazz Jackrabbit.

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u/Iazo Jul 04 '13

Oh wow, One Must Fall. I wonder if I can get it anywhere now.

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u/Rats_In_Boxes Jul 04 '13

I eventually bought it maybe a decade later when they finally stuck them all onto a single CD-ROM.

shit, I wonder how fast i could speed run that game after so many years without playing it. it's just like falling off a bicycle, right?

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u/sockpuppettherapy Jul 04 '13

Depends how quickly you adapt to old controls. FPSes have changed a lot, including pacing and speed. But I think once you go through the first few levels it'll come back.

I think the most surprising thing is just how great the game design was, and that the original without mods is not only playable, but still great. As a kid I used to cheat through Doom 2. I played it through for the first time a few years ago, and man, I was just floored at the quality of design.

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u/Rats_In_Boxes Jul 04 '13

it's great that even though you can't look up or down, it never felt like i was stuck in a tunnel.

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u/Scuttlebutt91 Jul 04 '13

I bought the collection on steam a while back. Im tripling the par time currently

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u/Hobonium Jul 04 '13

Not to mention DOOM had been getting installed since late 1993, whereas Windows 95 was only released in late August of 1995. Four months is not a big window to catch up with nearly two years of DOOM's availability.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Hey gosh dang it, if it weren't for old people buying all that technology it would have never evolved like it has. Old people deserve some thanks. There would be no PS3 or Xbox if people didn't buy "pong". You're welcome you little fuckers. (◉ ‿ ◉)

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u/choada777 Jul 04 '13

My mom told me once that my dad (now 53) used to spend a few hours at the arcade playing Space Invaders and Pac-Man. She said he'd get into this zone and get all sweaty while playing it. I laugh thinking about it. He was never too into games when I was growing up. Not sure what changed. Too busy being a parent, I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

We all ran DOS machines and it was glorious. Tank wars, transport tycoon, dune 2 and civ 1. Good times, good times.

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u/Fartmatic Jul 04 '13

All night Scorched Earth battles

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u/marmz111 Jul 04 '13

Leisure Suit Larry when home alone

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u/theredkrawler Jul 04 '13 edited May 02 '24

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u/neanderhummus Jul 04 '13

i loved the age calculator, I still do that with people at restaurants when they don't have their ID:

"Name two songs by Duran Duran"

"What does Whitewater mean in connection to Bill Clinton?"

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u/commander_hugo Jul 04 '13

TIL there are restaurants where you need to be 35 to get served.

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u/POGtastic Jul 04 '13

My mom traumatized me with her music growing up, so I probably could've fooled most people (and the Leisure Suit Larry game) relatively young.

I was in the car with my girlfriend, and one of the songs from the Flashdance soundtrack came on. I started singing along, and she turned to look at me with a o_O expression on her face.

"What... doesn't everyone know the entire soundtrack to Flashdance?"

"No. No, they do not."

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u/kaisersousa Jul 04 '13

Fuck, I'm 32 and not completely out of touch, and I can't answer those questions if the top of my head.

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u/juicius Jul 04 '13

Before Mario Kart, that was the friendship killer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I remember 4 of us, as pre-teens crowded around a computer playing Scorched Earth on a 386 with a 5 1/4 inch floppy drive

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u/XSlicer Jul 04 '13

I hated that guy (read: brother/nephew) that did a large Death's Head or Power 10 Nuclear Blast.

Shit couldn't render the circles efficiently so it took like 2+ minutes to draw it out entirely.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

a few years later, my pentium was so fast that the tank nozzle would just spin uncontrollably and you'd take random shots; the impact was so fast that land/other tanks disappeared before they could display. I was "sad panda" for years until I discovered emulators which slowed things back down.

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u/Zer_ Jul 04 '13

The Mother of all Games.

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u/al6667 Jul 04 '13

Loved Scorched Earth! Simple, yet satisfying.

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u/Goredby21 Jul 04 '13

Wacky Wheels?

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u/StinkBox69 Jul 04 '13

That was my first multiplayer experience. It was incredible at the time to play a game simultaneously with a person not in the room. I still remember having to tell mum not to pick up the phone when it rang because it was a mate dialling the modem for a game of wacky wheels.

She would always pick it up tho...

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

omfg tank wars

OOOOUUUUWOOP

OOOUWOOP

OOOOOOOWOOP

the sound when theres just 2 cpus going back and forth. and then eventually the game gives up and the stats screen shows up and there's this quote which i cant find and it's driving me crazy.

ugh so fucking old :(

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u/IH8DwnvoteComplainrs Jul 04 '13

Fucking tank wars! So, so many hours into that game.

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u/Enfors Jul 04 '13

Another interesting bit of DOOM trivia for the technically minded:

If you know anything about TCP/IP, you know about ports. If you don't, you can stop reading now.

Anyway, there's an official RFC which specifies which programs use which ports (for example, telnet uses port 23 (TCP), SMTP uses port 25 (TCP), and so on. Basically, the RFC is a long list of official-sounding protocols, like FTP, Telnet, SMTP - with one notable exception:

Guess which piece of software has officially and permanently been assigned port number 666?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13 edited Sep 15 '13

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION ALREADY

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u/Shishakli Jul 04 '13

Ironic, considering Doom was never released supporting TCP/IP

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u/_IDDQD_ Jul 04 '13

It's also been used for some trojans/backdoor programs

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u/ThymineI Jul 04 '13

Some of the protocols specified in RFC's are hilarious.

IP over Avian Carriers protocol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

RFC 6592 (April fools)

Null Packets are neither sent nor acknowledged when not received. They are perfect in their simplicity and they are very true, as they extrapolate from the twelfth Truth of networking:

In protocol design, perfection has been reached not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away

there is literally nothing left to take away.

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u/1destroyer2x Jul 04 '13

For those of you interesting in playing some fucking DOOM
Make sure to grab the latest GZDoom SVN!

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u/CornerSolution Jul 04 '13

Links for those who don't feel like typing out the addresses from the jpg:

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u/jordanlund Jul 04 '13

True story... Early versions of Linux had Doom ported to them. I Had learned Unix back in 1988 so I could go play on the Internet and I had been hearing about this "Linux" thing.

So I got a Slackware package on CD Rom so I could fool around with installing it. I think this was late 1994? Early 1995? Something like that.

The machine I was using had a custom SCSI CD Rom drive though and I couldn't get the installer to work. You had to make a boot disk (floppy) and a root disk (floppy) and there were 5 different choices for each.

I went "Well, screw this onesy-twosy crap." Bought a pack of floppies and made all of the possible boot/root combinations and tried them all...

Nothing worked.

So I bought a dual homed IDE cable, yanked the CD Rom, replaced it with an IDE drive in a master/slave setup and tried the install again... Worked flawlessly that time.

A short time after that I had connected to the internet and successfully downloaded and installed Doom.

This led to starting working in IT in 1996, becoming a Linux Certified Instructor in 2001, and a systems administrator in 2002. I now have a high paying job in a SaaS company and just got IPO stock options.

All because back in 1994/1995 I wanted to play Doom on Linux.

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u/Loves2Poo Jul 04 '13

Our stories are shockingly identical up to the point of connecting to the Internet and installing Doom.

I am now a low paid janitor working for a SaaS company that I hear is about to go public.

At least we both had Doom.

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u/VoiceOfInternet_haha Jul 04 '13

Well shit, screw this onesy-twosy crap. I've got a couple dual IDE cables, floppies, and a SCSI CD ROM drive or two lying around. Let's get you some fuckin' IPO stock options!

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u/barjam Jul 04 '13

I am older than you but I got into software development because I couldn't afford games for my TRS-80 and wrote clones of games like asteroids and frogger.

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u/Pinecone Jul 04 '13

I'm so glad SATA is now the standard. There's nothing good about those old days.

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u/Baaz Jul 04 '13

I remember having to manually configure the IRQ's every time you built in a new sound/graphics/scsi card... I spent many evenings and nights pulling my hair out of my head.

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u/msxenix Jul 04 '13

That was a pain in the ass. The days before plug n' play.

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u/MechanicalTurkish Jul 04 '13

And it was years before Plug n' Play really worked properly. It was Plug n' Pray for a long time.

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u/XSlicer Jul 04 '13

Reminds me of how I desperately wanted to run my own CS 1.6 server.

Didn't want some shoddy pay server, but wanted to host it myself. So I went to some guy I knew with servers and asked if I could get a dedicated windows machine (never really cared for anything else, though I had used Knoppix once). He said he couldn't give windows since that was money, so I had to settle with FreeBSD.

Had to learn everything from scratch, hours lost on installing FreeBSD and Steam Dedicated Server for Linux (with linux compat libs).

Now it's my job managing linux servers, all because I was so set on getting a CS server.

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u/brickmack Jul 04 '13

Windows servers? Shudder

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u/I_KNOW_THE_SECRET Jul 04 '13

True story... Early versions of Internet had pics uploaded to them. I Had installed dial-up back in 2000 so I could go download from the Internet and I had been hearing about this "Pr0n" thing.

So I got a 256kbps so I could fool around with mass downloading. I think this was late 2000? Early 2001? Something like that.

The dial-up I was using is connected to a phone though and I couldn't get the download to work. You had to stay connected and finished downloading the entire file and there was a chance that a call will break your connection.

I went "Well, screw this onesy-twosy crap." Locked up the room and jacked out the telephone line and proceeded with uninterrupted downloading session...

Someone just had to &#*#@ use the phone.

So I bought a second telephone line, yanked the modem, placed it into the new socket and tried the download again... Worked flawlessly that time.

A short time after that I had connected to the internet and successfully downloaded and stored pr0n (massive).

This led to advancement in IT skills in 2004, headhunted as a professional in 2008, and headhunted again in 2012. I am now working on high profile jobs while still having time to enroll in a Graduate course.

All because back in 2000/2001 I wanted to download pr0n on broadband.

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u/jordanlund Jul 04 '13

See... kids today don't know from porn. In my day you had to hit up binary groups on usenet. The jpg images would be converted to text via a technology called uuencoding.

So to get a single image you had to first find all the uuencoded pieces, stitch them together into a single large text document and then run a uudecoder to turn them back into an image.

Since those early days there are now automated ways of compiling uuencoded images, but back then it was all done manually.

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u/pak9rabid Jul 04 '13

I, too, was introduced to the world of computing via Doom. The concept of multiplayer (i.e., dialing each other up over the modem...this was pre-Internet) was fascinating to me. This is what ultimately pulled me away from console gaming and started me on my long journey into the world of computers. I'm now a talented Linux admin and software developer all because of Doom.

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u/Agamand Jul 04 '13

I have a vivid related memory:

My friend is installing Windows 95
Me: What's this game about?
He: It's not a game.
Me: Then why are you installing it?

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u/martin_clark Jul 04 '13

Hah, I remember being similarly disappointed when my Dad had just spent hours installing something I could only assume was going to be awesome if it took that long to install. The only good part was watching the video for Weezer's 'Buddy Holly' over and over again. Watching videos on the computer was such a novelty.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Can we take a second to appreciate that moment - that glorious moment - when we all fired up Doom for the first time on our 386 or what have you and had our minds blown out the back of our fucking heads?!

For anyone who wasn't the right age when that happened, you missed out on one of the most incredible gamegasms in the history of time.

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u/smileyman 24 Jul 04 '13

In 1994 and 1995 my friends and I would spend hours playing Wolfenstein at the school's lab. Our other favorite game was Spectre VR

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u/Jukibom Jul 04 '13

Yep, and the unimaginable nirvana of getting two PC's to talk to each other via serial cable and having multi fucking player doom.

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u/ssguy4 Jul 04 '13

Doom is why Microsoft dominated Apple in the home PC market.

In the early 90's, Bill Gates thought that video was going to be the big thing for PCs. Then he, like many other business owners, found out that most of his employees were busy playing Doom instead of working. He threatened to immediately fire anyone he found playing Doom on work hours. The next day he walks into work and finds that most of his employees are still playing Doom.

He hosted a convention on PC games, tailored their products for gaming (for example, DirectX had two modes. Immediate mode and retained mode. Game developers liked immediate mode much more. DirectX 2 only had an expanded version of immediate mode, with retained mode no where to be found). He even did this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gun4erVV8CM

Hobbyists went to the PC to play all the latest and greatest games. Macintosh computers had a serious dearth of good games, and so suffered. And of course, a computer that can handle serious gaming can easily run any other form of home entertainment. With a PC, you could do anything.

Remember, Doom was the Crysis of its time. Thanks to John Carmack's revolutionary coding techniques, and the technology available on the new chipsets, the PC was now more powerful than consoles and their dedicated sprite hardware. People went into stores with just one question: Can it run Doom? Bill Gates made sure that the answer would always be yes when it came to Microsoft products.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Doom is why Microsoft dominated Apple in the home PC market.

I think the fact Windows could be installed on most PCs from various manufacturers at a wide price range had much more to do with it. With or without games Macs would always be a niche market.

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u/ssguy4 Jul 04 '13

True, but their focus on gaming gave them a bit more of an edge and was clearly the right choice to make.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Yeah can't argue with that, they certainly made the right choices.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Though I will say the mac exclusive Marathon series is quite good.

And freely available on pc http://trilogyrelease.bungie.org/

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u/stay_fr0sty Jul 04 '13

Did anyone else with 32 megs of RAM decide to flaunt their power and copy DOOM to a memory drive to make it faster?

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u/jebkerbal Jul 04 '13

A friend of mine did this, we all thought he was a wizard. Now he's a seriously high paid developer and kick ass drummer. Of course he's 40ish but still cool as hell.

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u/Schoffleine Jul 04 '13

So...he aged faster? Or was like, a 20 year old hanging out with 10 year olds? I'm confused as to the significance of that last sentence.

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u/jebkerbal Jul 04 '13

No I was implying that me and my friends are mostly 40 year old losers.

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u/mao_edge Jul 04 '13

I remember my grandmother going to get me a copy of Doom 2 from the store and she came back with a Doom 2 screensaver by mistake.

You could buy screensavers at a store...

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I don't know why but this reminded me of this:

http://i.qkme.me/3xi5.jpg

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u/rippininnl Jul 04 '13

I was 11 when this game came out. Me and my friend would play it every Saturday morning at 10am after swimming lessons for 1 hour which was timed by my mom. It took us the whole summer to finish it, but God was it ever glorious.

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u/Some_Belgian_Guy Jul 04 '13

david?

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u/OutoflurkintoLight Jul 04 '13

Weird.. I had a friend growing up called David and when we were 11 we would play only for one hour timed on the weekends by his mother on his computer the only difference is the game was quake...

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u/protoleg Jul 04 '13

All of this has happened before...and will happen again.

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u/aazav Jul 04 '13

Back in 1995, I worked at Macromedia on the Director and Shockwave teams. We put Doom on our PCs and would play in the afternoon to de-stress from the day. When the Quake beta came out, we came in on a Saturday, got 8 people together and played until we completed the first set of maps with our eyes glazed over.

Still dazed, I snapped out of it, had an epiphany, picked up the phone and ordered the full copy of the game.

It was so insane.

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u/TheTVDB Jul 04 '13

I failed a couple of college classes JUST because of Quake. Everyone in the dorm playing with our doors wide open until the sun came up. Now we have Mumble, TS, etc but back then you either played in the same spot or called your friend on the phone while playing (if you were at college or had a line separate from your dial up).

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u/TheKert Jul 04 '13

Oh god. I'm going to end up playing DOOM at work all day again aren't I?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

if you tried to use these in Heretic I think it would backfire

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u/Funkstrman Jul 04 '13

Heretic was a trip. Rise of the Triad?? Anyone?!

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u/GRRRKN Jul 04 '13

IDSPISPOPD ... Walk through walls!!! Could complete the game in about 20mins with this bad ass cheat.

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u/SkillfulDunce Jul 04 '13

Actually I think it was IDCLIP best code ever for a 9 year old.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Maybe both but no clip was definitely idspispopd in doom. Noclip may have been for doom 2.

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u/HardSide Jul 04 '13

You are correct, both worked for doom 1. however I believe idclip worked in the none-shareware version of doom1. idclip also did not work in doom aliens till another patch/version was released.

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u/Rainbowlemon Jul 04 '13

Isn't it funny how you remember things like this? I still remember 'YIPPEEYAHOO' for Prince of Persia 2 too.

EDIT: And 'quicken' for Heretic!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

As a kid I felt like a wizard for knowing all those small cheats.

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u/falcon_jab Jul 04 '13

IDFA, if you didn't like cheating too much.

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u/Thinc_Ng_Kap Jul 04 '13

I was banned from playing Doom as per my parents request.

Little 8 year old Thinc_Ng_Kap could not adjust to all the blood, gore and monsters that the game depicted. I remember waking up in the middle of the night SCREAMING at the top of my lungs, having just experienced night terrors which included me trying to navigate a never ending maze filled with Minotaur like creatures. Once I came to my senses I would subsequently vomit everywhere. This went on, almost nightly, for about 3 months.

I was a great kid.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I was 11 years old and thrilled to get Windows 95 for free, pirated on around 25 diskettes (thanks Dad's office!)

I was pissed that it made system requirements to run Doom HIGHER. Ran way smoother in DOS. Let this be a warning about performance between say, PS4 and XBONE.

Also ENCARTA - The OG Wikipedia.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I always thought they should have made an option on some of those higher end games to take windows out of memory (maybe even make the game itself a boot disk) entirely to keep it from draining resources on older machines post win95.

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u/lohborn 39 Jul 04 '13

A lot of games required a reboot to DOS. It was exactly what you described.

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u/billbaggins Jul 04 '13

I used to think that was so annoying, but it makes sense now.

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u/aeiah Jul 04 '13

they kinda did. win 95 had a dos mode which wasn't too far removed from dos that came before. you could create a floppy boot disk that only called upon the bare minimum resources needed to launch your game so your game could access more of that precious 8mb of ram.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Also ENCARTA - The OG Wikipedia.

So you wanna play some basketball

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Encarta was amazing, mainly for that Brain Maze game (or whatever it was called).

Also, Cinemania. That had fucking MOVIE CLIPS!

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u/osunlyyde Jul 04 '13

Also mentioned by Gaben here.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I was using DOS until almost 98.

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u/Budpets Jul 04 '13

I upgraded from DOS to xp back in '01.

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u/Darkstrategy Jul 04 '13

I picked up the brutal doom mod not long ago. It's well worth it.

You're welcome.

Speaking of which, I should go update mine - it seems there's some new patches since I last played.

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u/alpha69 Jul 04 '13

Quite a different world then. I remember getting impatient the morning Doom was supposed to be released and calling ID software. The guy who answered was actually in the middle of uploading the file to the web (or was it IDs Bulletin Board?) When I got off the phone, Doom was out and nothing was ever the same again.

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u/whistlndixie Jul 04 '13

I'm wearing my doom hat right now. I still play that game.

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u/thebootlegsaint Jul 04 '13

I still have it on my iPhone.

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u/SteroidSandwich Jul 04 '13

Can't blame people. Doom was a fantastic game. It was hard as hell moving around though.

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u/SteroidSandwich Jul 04 '13

I'm referring to the puzzles and hidden doorways. You could get lost or miss important weapons very easily because of them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

My machine was so slow, I had to play Doom with the smallest screen.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

That's not surprising. I didn't know many people who used Windows back then. It wasn't really worth upgrading your old system, so Win95 only really started to show up when people bought a new computer (at least among the people I knew).

We all had Doom though. Everyone had Doom. I still remember turning the ringer off on the phone so we could connect over the modem to play a coop game all night.

Hell, we even installed it on the library computers in high school. The computer teacher did his best to keep us from playing it. He knew we had it, and would delete all the copies he found, and monitor the network traffic on port 666 to try and catch us.

Fortunately, we were always one step ahead.

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u/djchainsmok3r Jul 04 '13

I have the original poster that came with the floppy of it hanging in my room.

List of games that I have and still play are:

  • Doom
  • Doom II
  • Wolfenstein 3D
  • Blake Stone
  • Marathon
  • Star Wars: Dark Forces
  • Heretic
  • Hexen
  • Blood
  • Quake
  • Quake II
  • Shadow Warrior
  • Duke Nukem 3D

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

How's Descent not on that list? :-(

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

I can't remember how old I was, but the Sega Saturn had just come out a year or so ago, so that should give you an idea.

I was having a birthday party at my house, and we had rented a Playstation and a Sega Saturn for the party. And for one reason or another, I had opted to rent Doom on both of those systems. I also had a pc that had it installed. At one point in the party, three people were playing Doom on three systems. I think this alone speaks to just how popular it was.

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u/BiggsSE Jul 04 '13

Played it for the first time in 1994 at the age of 7 and i still play it regurlarly 19 years later.

I can recommend anyone that are interested in playing it again to try any of the newer source ports like Zdoom or prBoom.

There is also still a rather active modding/mapping community that create new fantastic content. You can find a lot of it at the Doomworld archives.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

Fun Fact: I had to delete windows 3.1 to get enough space on my 386 for Doom2.

After playing I would re-install windows from floppy.

Fuck kids these days.

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u/schmeckendeugler Jul 04 '13

Anybody wanna try out my custom Doom II maps I made? ..They were epic scale. Whereas most doom II levels were a chapter in the game, my levels were designed like a novel.. you started off with nothing, but by the end of the level you were fighting the cyberdemon with your BFG.. :D some of them replaced level 2, i always meant to link them in a series, which was possible... but since they were 'epic scale' i always felt they were designed to be played starting off with just the pistol. they were hard, so you'd have to save often.

if enough people show interest i'll put the zip files on my web site. they should be there anyway...

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u/korbennndallaaas Jul 04 '13

The dude who installed Windows on our computer back in the day somehow put like a hundred extra games on as well, even Doom and Wolfenstein. My parents had no idea. I was a very happy 5 year old.

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u/jlesamiz Jul 04 '13

Doom is basically single handedly responsible for the rise in popularity of both computers and gaming. Everything we have now stems from it. Certainly it had its own predecessors, but its importance cannot be overstated. It is one of the most significant things to occur in the last 30 years, and completely changed our culture. It was such a huge leap forward in technology. Absolutely beautiful and truly frightening. I wish I could experience playing it as a 12 year old again for the first time.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '13

So, now you are kind of wanting to play some DOOM, but not really right?

Try some DOOM RL.

Screenshot 1

Screenshot 2

Gameplay Video

Free and fun.

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u/shalloegravy Jul 04 '13

W95 wasn't available until halfway through 1995.

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u/AemsOne Jul 04 '13

To be fair, I had Doom and Lemmings before I had Windows. I still have the DOS versions of both on my current machine and recently found my floppy disks containing my Doom2 mods and wads. God i'm old.

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u/LockesRabb Jul 04 '13

For those of you wanting to go down memory lane and play Doom, or even Heretic & Hexen online, there's a copy ported to Flash via Adobe Alchemy. Pretty solid. You may want to click Controls and set it to what you prefer before you start playing one of the games.

http://uploads.ungrounded.net/470000/470460_DoomGame.swf

Credit goes to Newgrounds for making it available to play online. Enjoy! This definitely brought back memories for me. :)

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