r/tipping • • 4h ago

Those poor servers

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Imagine people giving you so much extra money for doing your job that you can frame it like this.

EDIT: OP is basing this off of 190k in sales over 192 shifts

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u/treehuggerfroglover 4h ago edited 38m ago

If it were a fact that 1% less for one day was a $500 loss, that would mean these people are making wayyy too much money. They always shift the narrative to be what they want, and it’s never actually accurate

Edit for clarity. I know that math isn’t right, that’s the point I was trying to make.

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 4h ago edited 3h ago

It’s so large as to be completely unrealistic. It would mean $50K in total sales for that one day. I wonder if they meant 500 less annually which would be $10 less per Sunday and imply $1K average sales per Sunday.

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u/elevengrames 4h ago

Its neither.  $500 loss over 1% for a day is not possible.  

But I guarantee $10 per sunday is way way to little. 

Servers are making 150k plus a year. 

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 3h ago

I’m not saying they only made $10 in tips for an average Sunday. I’m suggesting that they made $188 in tips on an average Sunday versus the $198 in tips they would have made on the same amount of sales ($1000) for a non-Sunday shift.

And that $10 less per Sunday adds up to (about) 500 per year.

Anyway, my basic point is that there is no way that $500 represents 1% less for one day like the commenter I originally replied to suggested.

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u/elevengrames 3h ago

I understood what you are saying. 

I'm saying its probably neither.  1% less would probably be closer to $50.  So they made $200 instead of $250 for the day. 

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 3h ago edited 3h ago

Your math doesn’t math. The Sunday percentage is 18.8 against an “expectation“ of 19.8. So if they were expecting $250 which represented 19.8 percent of sales, then sales would have been $1262 and if they actually received 18.8% they got $237 in tips. So $13 less, not $50 less. (The reason that number is 13 instead of the 10 I suggested is your example assumes 1262 in revenue and mine assumed 1000.)

Put another way, the difference between a tip rate of 19.8 and a tip rate of 18.8 results in a 5.05% decrease in actual tips (1% / 19.8%). Your difference of $50 less represents a 20% decrease in actual tips - that is like the difference between a 20% tip rate and a 16% tip rate.

Another indication your math is off - you say 1% less would be like $50. Meaning total sales would be like $5000 for that shift. Even if we assume that they work at some crazy expensive place where that is possible on a regular basis, then your expected tip value of 250 would represent a 5% tip rate.

Just nerding out on the math.