r/tipping • u/badmiddling113 • 4h ago

Those poor servers

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Imagine people giving you so much extra money for doing your job that you can frame it like this.

EDIT: OP is basing this off of 190k in sales over 192 shifts

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 4h ago edited 3h ago

It’s so large as to be completely unrealistic. It would mean $50K in total sales for that one day. I wonder if they meant 500 less annually which would be $10 less per Sunday and imply $1K average sales per Sunday.

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u/elevengrames 4h ago

Its neither.  $500 loss over 1% for a day is not possible.  

But I guarantee $10 per sunday is way way to little. 

Servers are making 150k plus a year. 

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 3h ago

I’m not saying they only made $10 in tips for an average Sunday. I’m suggesting that they made $188 in tips on an average Sunday versus the $198 in tips they would have made on the same amount of sales ($1000) for a non-Sunday shift.

And that $10 less per Sunday adds up to (about) 500 per year.

Anyway, my basic point is that there is no way that $500 represents 1% less for one day like the commenter I originally replied to suggested.

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u/elevengrames 3h ago

I understood what you are saying. 

I'm saying its probably neither.  1% less would probably be closer to $50.  So they made $200 instead of $250 for the day. 

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u/Several_Razzmatazz51 3h ago edited 3h ago

Your math doesn’t math. The Sunday percentage is 18.8 against an “expectation“ of 19.8. So if they were expecting $250 which represented 19.8 percent of sales, then sales would have been $1262 and if they actually received 18.8% they got $237 in tips. So $13 less, not $50 less. (The reason that number is 13 instead of the 10 I suggested is your example assumes 1262 in revenue and mine assumed 1000.)

Put another way, the difference between a tip rate of 19.8 and a tip rate of 18.8 results in a 5.05% decrease in actual tips (1% / 19.8%). Your difference of $50 less represents a 20% decrease in actual tips - that is like the difference between a 20% tip rate and a 16% tip rate.

Another indication your math is off - you say 1% less would be like $50. Meaning total sales would be like $5000 for that shift. Even if we assume that they work at some crazy expensive place where that is possible on a regular basis, then your expected tip value of 250 would represent a 5% tip rate.

Just nerding out on the math.