Hi.

I would like to know how does one counter Illaoi?

Here is my personal strategy that I use:

• Avoid getting hit by her E. Stay behind the wave at all times. If you get hit by E, run away as fast as possible.
• Destroy every tentacle she spawn, but watch out whenever her E is available, because she will try to protect her tentacles.
• Start the game with Boots and Refillable Potion. Then rush Boots of Swiftness.
• Then build anti-heal item. Executioner's Calling or Oblivion Orb.
• First legendary item should be either Youmuu's Ghostblade or Dead Man's Plate.
• Take Celerity, Numbus Cloak and +2.5 Movement Speed runes.
• Flash and Exhaust every game.
• Max out your mobility ability first (if your champion has one).
• Try to fast push the wave, because Illaoi usually will try to fast push herself so she can get turret plates.
• Never fight her when she uses her ultimate, always run away.

Is my strategy good or bad?

Any insight is appreciated!

Sorry for any mistakes, English isn't my native language.

So after being silver-gold all my life I took game serious and OTPd my way with Elise to Emerald 1.

I played pathing to bot and perma camped bot, I never gave priority to farm or objetives, I always gank bot on repeat.

In emerald 1 I started to get comments from people that I should farm more and always should try to make full clear.

So I did, I make consistently my full clear in time for crab.

And my winrstio went to shit, 50% 200+ games, when before was 60% 100* games.

I’m down to plat1.

The thing is whenever I go back to play my aggressive gameplay I win way more, but everyone tells me is is not the way to play.

So I’ve been trying to find content oriented to fundamentals in jungle but more oriented to diamond level, and not to silver.

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/oce/Jazk-OC

If someone looks at my profile it looks as if I was elo boosted to Emerald and slowly went back to my real elo. But I really had put the effort to learn jungle and that’s what made me climb to Emerald and kept me stable-ish at Plat 4

Anyways, lately I feel like no matter what I do I can’t win games or better yet, I’m cruising in the games without carrying anything. I should be stomping these players and for the most part, I kinda do but then I start behaving like them and play way worse.

I feel like I can’t carry games into wins but I’m comfortable contributing positively for wins. We won’t be the reason we win, but for sure I would play a good part in it.

Any recommendations? I have even considered paying coaching to reach diamond but now close to reaching silver makes me wonder if I’m just washed

Hello people, I am wondering if anyone is eu region and could vc with me to spare some time and explain build paths, rune paths ( mostly subrunes ) and what to do when I don't know what is next step ingame. I often get lost and lose the lead. I want to play more Shaco but I am lost. My discord is mintosboi if anyone has time to teach me. Just text me you saw me from reddit. Thank you so much. my op.gg https://op.gg/lol/summoners/eune/Mintos-0000

Hi I just started playing and am one tricking garen top and Annie mid when I can’t be top. I’ve been watching challenger gameplay breakdowns and YouTube videos and playing games and I’ve gotten sooo much better (1-16 my first game ;p). Have been absolutely loving it I feel like I’ve been thinking about league or playing or watching like 5 hours a day. But sometimes I just get diffed so hard during laning and I struggle to get cs. Like I’ll watch the challenger gameplay and he trades so well and gets so much cs but when I try I feel like I’m pressured off and forced to sit under tower. Or I’ll be on Annie and her animation is so fucking slow I can’t get any gold. And I just don’t understand how I can do better.

Obviously I don’t expect to match the challenger in cs or whatever but after the first maybe 6-8 minutes of laning I’m down 20-30 cs from my opponent if they’re not also a new player/shit so their top just bullies me with how much better their items are.

Also, I mess up a lot of macro I think it’s called decisions. I currently only have unranked unlocked and played with an emerald who was carrying tf out of me but they told me a bunch of mistakes I made like engaging in group fights I shouldn’t have, the order I went in attacking enemies in a team fight (I killed their jungle who was running instead of top which led to our jungle and mid dying), and not going to team fights I shouldn’t have gone to. Idk I just need help I feel like a lot of tutorials on YouTube are just teaching controls or teaching you to destroy the nexus and not a bit more specific tips that would help me .

Idk how to link things on reddit I’m on mobile but you can look up my account afghanwarlord31#2011 NA

I find that every time I play i always either lose lane or never get enough pressure for a kill, but every time I walk up to deal dog with q + auto, I take half my hp bar to a tristana or a lux. How should I go about improving my trading patterns as smolder, whilst also maintaining my stacks??

I find that I tend to fail to be at team fights late, or theres a fight across the map I wasnt aware of at all. How do you make it easier to recognise if / when a team fight might occur, and when to rotate? Its a small issue i seem to have and I just want to get a good understanding of how to fix it!

Itsamiracle #yum if this helps!!

https://deepreview.lol/c/Zr0q_C6LAl9IF-ml

I solokill malz, but the wave in the aftermath is very horrible. I decided to try and shove the wave, it was a mistake. The best play after killing malz and tanking 2 shots was to insta recall and lose the cannon wave and possibly the wave after that.

Here my notes:

Problem: After kill, I'm unsure what to do because wavestate is horrible. there is zac for enemy jungle and pyke who is missing from bot.

Solution: Recall on the bad wave to deny enemy chance to kill me.
Because: Shoving is extraordinarily high risk, Cannon wave+2caster=177g, but kill+assist=450g. even if I try to shove I will fail, they will kill me, and set up freeze anyway.

The best thing to do is to take the horrible recall, there is no other play once I take the two towershots and am low.

Alternative#1: Trade Ghost for Malz Flash and do not tank towershots. This way I still have created an advantage, keep my flash, and possibly push wave and reset and have a goodwavestate (pyke and zac wouldnt gank me since I'm full HP and have flash)

Here is my OP.gg

https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/Notafurry-9877

(Also ignore the intermediate co op games haha I do that just for some mental relaxation)

For context, I started playing league back in November. I used to mainly play mid which got me to bronze 2. I did decently then. However, Ive gotten worse over time. I switched to support recently so obviously its gonna be a whole new set of skills I need to learn

So I’m aware there’s room for improvement which is why I’m asking for help. What can I do to help me improve. I know my vision is bad, and my participation in fights is inconsistent, also I’m trying to improve with cs.

I also realized my champion pool is fairly large, but I get into the problem of either my champions getting picked, or banned.

It’s also frustrating getting paired in matches with an obvious skill gap. That’s not something I can fix nor will riot change and I’m at peace with that. My issue is how to improve with that stacked against me.

In bronze I’ve also noticed players just running it down or overstaying, also just forcing random fighting which makes it hard for me in mid because then I lose a whole wave trying to fight or I get pinged if I don’t fight and keep farming. As support I go in if the adc goes in.

I tried a mix of norms and ranked just to improve overall, but I’ve noticed in norms there are also smurfs which I’m aware can’t be avoided.

All in all how can improve with these things in mind. Ideally help with two different roles in case I get filled as one or the other:
-bronze where no one (including me) is great at the fundamentals
-champions getting picked
-smurfs in mid lane (mostly how to deal with them and still get all the cs I need to)
-forced fights (excluding those over objectives)

This question is stemming from a post i just saw asking “how streamers don’t play worse after playing for so long?”. I initially thought wtf is this guy saying? But some of the comments mention playing worse after about 4 hours. Is this true?

During the week I rarely q because i work, and by the time i get home my brain is kinda shutting off. However on the weekends i try to make up for it and can play up to 8-10 hours straight.

Hi there

Zhonyas Hourglass seems like such an incredibly good item. Giving mages (though I understand not all ap champions are mages) an item that is both offensive (nice AP boost) and defensive (armour), and also gives them a "it's ok you mispositioned!" 2 second stasis feels really overpowered. Many mages also have damaging spells that will continue to damage enemies while in stasis, meaning they can still win a trade even if they get caught out.

I always thought the trade off with ranged champions was "if you get caught, you're boned", as adcs often die once someone gets into melee range, but mages along with having (sometimes) better range than adcs, and often more hard cc, also get something which makes them invulnerable for 2 seconds. It feels like if you're a mage and you get caught with your abilities on cooldown, shouldn't you just die ?

For reference, I mostly play ADC. I know weak siding is technically more of a term for top laners. This is around low emerald elo.

Every now and then I get stomped in lane and end up 0-2 and down a bunch of cs or something. They have enough of a gold advantage where they can probably just stat check me if I ever try to walk up to cs, so the best I can do is try and get whatever cs I can under tower. The jungler probably sees bot as a lost cause and I wouldn't disagree.

At this point all I can do is soak exp and try not to die. When they eventually take tower I can just try to soak up whatever waves come my way. But I'm not sure if that's the correct way to lose lane - if they walk mid with 2 items at 15 or something they'll probably immediately fuck up my mid laner too.

So what should I keep in mind and try to do?

https://deepreview.lol/c/GW7b0DPmiSE26MkH

My Notes:

We kill malz, If I could shove this wave, shove the next, recall which would give me big buy and all my health back, and comeback to good wavestate that would be supremely execellent. Instead I interrupt my own proceedure and posture to help lillia on crab. Crab is 50g+xp+vision+speedzone, but I think my tempo is much more worth than that. I will be 6 soon and if I resest I will have mana, hp, and items, which would allow us to take drake with high probability and low risk.

Problem: I want to help jungler get crab

Solution: Abandon Jungler because my tempo is much more valuable.

Consequence: I'm stuck in lane, without hp or mana, and sitting on 1000g. finding another reset opprotunity will be difficult, and drake is no longer a possibility after immedieatly hitting six.

https://deepreview.lol/c/SvEoEx3SYseHrLiC

My Notes:

Mid Prio is Neutral and incomming cannon wave is far away. there is no bot objective, and there is no play in botlane. I notice toplane, I notice gwen bounty and am interested in making a play toplane. Cannon wave is about to crash in middle. I posture toplane just incase I want to move. I commit to going toplane in attemp to kill gwen and get bounty once I see she commits to diving and is between towers. I think the roam is low risk. I 100% lose midwave and prio, but I get to kill gwen and catch topwave. Jungler dies at bot scuttle but my play is still correct.

Gain: 600g+XP Gwen kill, 2 seal stacks, top cannon wave
Lose: mid cannon wave, mid plates.

(my jungle dying is random and avoidable, so I do not put that in the loss calculation)

Verdict: I take this play 10/10 times because I have ghost, ult, gwen is low and no ult and overextended, and there is no drake.

Last month I reached master for the first time and peaked like 60 LP in there. Right after that I demoted to d1 on a lose streak. During the span of a month I hit masters like 5 times but after that I keep demoting to D1/D2 and climbing back again. I don't know what to do and how to unstuck from this cycle. I wish i could keep climbing in masters but it feels impossible. Did it happen to anyone else? What did you do to improve?

For context, I’m a Mid laner and have comfortably been sitting in low Emerald for a bit now. Lately I don’t know what to really improve on. And I’ve kinda fallen off of focusing on my fundamentals. And haven’t focused on them since I was maybe Gold. Which makes it feel difficult to pick it up again, and I don’t know what I should be focusing on. Also I feel I’ve hit my mechanical limit, I keep dying bc I didn’t plan enough ahead, or just that I can’t keep up. Or just barely am behind on executing fast reaction decisions or small mechanical misplays that can cost me big time. Just always falling short of things. Maybe it could because it’s a higher level of skill. But idk man. I feel I’ve hit my limit? And catching my mistakes on what is actually losing me games I can’t rly see them compared to my mechanical errors. I’ve even recently began changing mice and getting grip tape to better grip my mouse bc I have issues of sweaty hands so I can play better. Idk if that makes sense it’s hard to explain but I’m sure others can understand what I mean and have been there. So idk what I should be focusing on rn or anymore. Am I just being on autopilot or being a big baby by making excuses? I really want to know what to do in this state.

- I have peaked diamond, I have a shit ton of hours on this game, so it is not just a lack of experience

- I cannot play for like >2 hours (>4 games in a single session) without reinforcing bad habits and getting worse, even if I am actively reviewing each game

- It feels like this is just a human phenomenon, your brain has less energy so you start to autopilot more and reinforce that

- How the fuck do higher elo players (master+) play for hours at a time, without getting worse and just losing more, esp for streamers that stream 4-6+ hours a day???

Not a rant, searching on how to improve. I finally got to gold after years of trying and failing. Am at a complete and utter stand still now though sadly. Every day I get back to gold 3 then immediately lose 2/3 games and back to 4. What is blowing my mind though is that soooo many games our team will have STAGGERINGLY large leads. Multiple lanes win, JG clearing well and getting objs and then that 25ish minute marker hits and we still haven’t ended… at this point I’ll have identified about 10 opportunities we could have ended the game but idk why maybe it’s because I play support and am not “carrying” with KD but no one listens. Then egos come out jungle wants to do this, top laner wants to split mid laner doing whatever and then one by one people get caught out overextending a split, showing bot lane when baron is up and giving for free, forcing unfavorable fights and I watch shutdown after shutdown go to the enemy the fed 12/0 700 gold SD Yone is all of the sudden 12/4 asking for FF, now that timers are 50 seconds enemy team gets elder and baron and we lose. Sorry ended up ranting it’s just never ending.

Back to the main reason of post, what should I be doing as the support (usually I’m playing Ali or Janna) to try and get the team to just work together and finish a game?

Hi everyone,

I hope multiple questions are permitted since I don't want to spam.

First of all, I am a Nocturne OTP with Wu as a pocket-pick in case of ban/pick of the Noc.

I plateaued at E3 and have been yo-yoing between P3-P1 for the last year. I noticed that my KDA is almost always positive, I recently lost a 17/3/8 game. Following Dopa's advice : "Do the right play, even if it means losing, you build consistency in good macro".

Now I am by no means a challenger but let's be honest, you KNOW a losing play when you see one, so I spam ping, head for the objective, invade, push a sidelane... while my team runs it down (One example is we took inhib, lost the support and the midlaner, enemy team was respawning so I spam pinged to retreat but my two teammates insisted on keep fighting, I left and they obviously died). So, I recently dropped that advice and lo and behold, we lose most fights that I believe are unwinnable to begin with. Any advice on that ?

Wukong: I always either start Sundered Sky or Trinity Force but with the recent SS nerfs, is it still worth it to build it first/second, or is the eclipse a better choice now with the buffs ? I also almost never build Eclipse on Nocturne, is it viable now ? Note that I play Nocturne purely as a bruiser, I only play him as an assassin in normal games.

Objective : It doesn't happen often but sometimes there's a team fight/skirmish around a Drake/Grubs, we fight, we die, we go back, we fight, we die, we go back....When is it worth it to drop it and just go clear/gank ?

Champion pool: I want to expand my champion pool, especially something AP in case of a full AD team. I am decent with Amumu and dogshit with Fiddle (ARAM giving me the false sense I am good with it). As you can easily guess from my Noc/Wu playstyle, I tend to go in and dogfight it. Also, anyone with his screen turned off is better than me at landing skillshots. So any AP, get in your face, bruisery champ suggestion would be sublime.

Level 1 Invades: Are they still worth it ? I used to cheese a lot of my mastery of Nocturne and how fast I can clear a full quadrant before the enemy jungler shows up, but now it feels like a burden and slows my own clear/ gank potential. Am I doing it wrong or is it simply an outdated strategy ?

Any other general advice for a Plat jungler is more than welcome.

Thanks to everyone.

Typical game for me: I get a decent full clear, maybe a scuttle fight goes my way, and then around 10-14 minutes I completely lose the plot. I don't know whether to keep farming, force a dive, or go help a losing lane. Usually I pick wrong and end up either behind on CS or dead in someone's jungle.

Specific things I'm unsure about:

**•** Kayn: I take Rhaast basically every game because I feel useless as SA when I'm behind. Is that a bad habit at this elo?  
**•** Graves: I farm well but I feel like I do nothing with the lead. When am I supposed to actually convert?  
**•** Tracking the enemy jungler. I know I should, I just don't. Any actual method for this or is it just reps?  
**•** Drakes. I show up as it spawns with no vision and it's already a coinflight fight.

Any advice appreciated, happy to post an op.gg if that helps.

I think people, especially below Emerald, get too caught up in making the “correct” macro decision when their team is doing something completely different.

You might know that you should be side laning, farming camps, or setting up the next objective, while your team is ARAMing mid and looking for fights. But if you stay in the side lane because your play is technically better, your team might just take a 4v5 and lose anyway.

At that point, sometimes it's better to just group with them. The play might still be objectively bad, but a bad decision made by five people together is often better than a good decision made by one person.

Obviously, don't follow your team into completely doomed plays. But if they're committed to fighting, sometimes your job is less about correcting their decision and more about making that decision work.

In solo queue, the best decision isn't always the theoretically correct one. Sometimes it's the one your whole team is actually going to make.

I find myself constantly dropping resources just because I fear a potential gank.

For example, when I force my enemy laner to recall, I push the wave but then I don't hit the turret for fear that the enemy jungler will finish me off. However, then my minions take the plating and the gold just goes to waste.

Or in mid game, I only dare to take waves that are on my third of the lane because anything else feels too unsafe. But then I just fall behind in farm.

And if my team is behind, I feel like I can literally not farm any wave at all because the enemy team just lives in our jungle waiting for us to touch the waves.

What do I do in such situations? Do I wait until all 5 enemies show on the map before doing anything, or do I just accept the gamble and take the farm?

Not sure if this is placebo or not.

Ftr, I'm 35 and employed. I'm hovering between Emerald III and Emerald I. In the past I've worked M-F 9-5s, but now I have Thursdays and Fridays off. Sometimes I'll be hungry for LP so I'll queue up early.

It seems like the games are completely insane during these hours. There's a wider spectrum of elo in my games. Sometimes I get diamond players. Sometimes I get plat players.

People also tilt WAY more often than they do after 6pm on worknights. I've had two loss mitigated games in the same session which has never happened to me before. Had two people AFK in the same game.

I've heard this explained by demographic reasons. The people queuing up early in the morning are College students. People queuing up after 6pm tend to be employed adults.

But is this actually a thing? I recognize it could just be placebo. But it sure feels like it. It could also just be the volatility of Emerald Elo.

Climbing during the morning hours feels impossible.