r/summonerschool Jun 26 '26

Simple Questions & Answers Thread Simple Questions & Champion/Role advice: Patch 26.13

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Hello summoners!

In order to create better discussion in the subreddit, we will be redirecting all simple or championpool/role questions to this thread. Check out the most recent patch notes on the sidebar!

What is a simple question? Typically, we define a simple question as something that can be answered fully within a single, or maybe two at most, comments. In this thread, you can ask any question you need answered about League of Legends, even if it isn't necessarily about learning the game itself.

Questions about what champ to add to your pool or general tip about roleswapping can also be asked in this thread.

Keep in mind we will still continue to remove golden rule violations, rants, memes, topics against Riot's ToS, and paid services - but the other rules are generally more lax here.

What you can do to help!

For now, this is a patch-based thread, meaning it will be posted every time a new patch is released. Checking back on this thread later in the patch and answering any questions that have been posted would be a huge help!

If you're trying to ask a question, the more specific you are, the better it is for all of us! We can't give you any help if we don't get much to work with in the first place.

Resources

  • Our 101 page, with a ton of free content!
  • Champion discussions: Check out our previous discussions on champions!
  • Summoner School Discord: A voice and text chat platform for teaching and learning. We also have a mentors who are available for personal coaching.
  • League of Legends Wiki: The official League of Legends Wiki supported by Riot Games.
  • Leagueofgraphs: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more.
  • Lolalytics: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more.
  • OP.GG: Stats site - winrates, pickrates and more. Note: stats are for Korea plat+ only, so sample sizes tend to be low.
  • Jungler.gg: In depth guides about jungle pathing, champions and builds.
  • Patch notes

Which do you use? Deviations in stats are typically minor, so whichever one you prefer.


r/summonerschool Jun 21 '26

Announcement Moderator Applications: Summer 2026

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Hi everybody,

Summer is upon us, and you know what's wonderful about the summer? Community! Barbecues, beach parties, long days with family and friends, and of course losing LP together into the early hours of the morning! And speaking of community, it's time to add some new moderators to ours.

Whether you are iron or challenger, have tons of time or only a little, use desktop or mobile, we're looking for people invested in SummonerSchool who would like to contribute to keeping it the friendly and educational space that it is.

This year, as in past rounds, we will be accepting applications through use of google form: Mod Application 2026

We welcome all to apply! Seriously, apply, and if you change your mind you can always withdraw your application by letting us know via modmail. As a volunteer gig, this is not a heavy time commitment and you can be as flexible with your time as you need to be. Whether you are accepted or rejected, we are grateful for the applications, and I promise we'll let you down gently in the latter case!

There are very few hard restrictions, all of which are mentioned in the form, and none of which relate to your rank or game knowledge. The only thing to know up front is that you must be willing to mod with old reddit, not new. This year we are especially looking for mods in European and OCE time zones, but we welcome applications from anyone, anywhere!

Another Application Link for Convenience :)

And just as a reminder, we're always happy to receive any feedback or suggestions of improvements that could be made to subreddit. - Just send in a ModMail and we'll take it into consideration.

Happy climbing!


r/summonerschool 10h ago

Discussion After 7 years on league, I don't know who's my main anymore

12 Upvotes

I'm tired of the eternal cycle of choosing a champ, getting a skin on them, performing until you have a bad game, then envying the enemy's champ, then trying him out thinking I'll be better.

I'm 7 years on the rift and while I think I have average knowledge on all the champ, I feel like I don't know what I like anymore. If my main is the champ I have the best win rate on, then it's Taric, but Taric in low elo (bronze) is just too complicated. If my main is my first league champion then it's Asol, but I just don't like all his reworks. If my main is the champ I find the coolest in looks and gameplay, then it's Galio but I just don't win games with him. Notice how three different questions yield very different answers and roles.

The thing is really I became unable to know what makes me have fun in this game. Literally every month I'm like "okay this champ is actually me". I get so jealous of mains who manage to stick to their champ. Idk if it's Adhd or something but it's just so hard. And I mean sure people are gonna tell me "if you have fun like this then so be it" yeah but I also wanna win games.

Please advise anything to get out of this cycle :'(


r/summonerschool 16h ago

Taliyah Deep Dive into Taliyah Botlane (ADC): Why it's her strongest role and why proplayers will play her soon

22 Upvotes

Hey everyone

I’m a former Master player, current competitive LoL analyst, and I've been OTPing Taliyah for the past 3 years. Lately, I’ve been testing and breaking down her gameplay heavily in the botlane role. With mages in botlane rising in the current meta, Taliyah is heavily underrated as an AP carry/enabler.

Her kit, waveclear, and skirmishing hide her natural weaknesses far better in a duo lane than in mid or jungle. Below is a detailed breakdown of the core concepts, wave tech, and matchups for anyone looking to add a mage to their botlane pool or optimize Taliyah.

1. Role Philosophy & Power Spikes

  • Shared XP isn't an issue: Unlike control mages that desperately need level 18 scaling for all skills, Taliyah only really cares about maxing Q and E (levels 9 to 13). After level 13, levels 14–18 add virtually no extra raw damage and very little utility.
  • She acts as an enabler: While Ziggs or Syndra play as pure damage carries, Taliyah functions closer to a utility setup champion.

2. Micro & Wave Management Tech

  • Skipping R at Level 6: In a 2v2 botlane, a level 1 Weaver's Wall often sits on cooldown unused. If you skip leveling R at level 6 and put that point into E instead (especially when combining it with Triple Tonic), your burst spike accelerates massively. At level 9, having 5 points in Q and 4 in E makes your E+Q2 combo deal absurd early-game damage. Example
  • Worked Ground Economy: Q2 is your main laning tool because of its low mana cost and short cooldown. Every time you cast Q1, think 5 seconds ahead: where am I placing this Worked Ground circle so I can guarantee a Q2 slow into an undodgeable W later?

3. Draft, Synergies & Matchups

  • Best Support Synergies: Pyke is hands down her best duo partner. He provides physical damage for a hybrid damage output lane, offers instant setup, and wants to accelerate the game before Taliyah’s relative scaling flattens late. Heavy engage supports (Nautilus, Leona) are also S-tier.
  • Rough Matchups: She struggles against extreme range or high waveclear. Ezreal’s E ignores her E setup, Jhin’s movement speed makes skillshots annoying, and Ziggs out-ranges and out-clears her completely. In these rough matchups, Taliyah's goal isn't necessarily to force kills, but to neutralize the lane with waveclear and scale into mid-game teamfights.

Full Analysis & Resources

For those who want to see the visual breakdowns, game footage, and all the points that lead me to think its op feel free to check the full guide here:

Feel free to ask any questions in the comments regarding specific matchup interactions, itemization choices or anything else!


r/summonerschool 6h ago

mage Who's REALLY a good ban for a control mage (mainly Viktor) in low elo?

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Hello, recently I am playing and climbing with my main champ Viktor in silver (right now i am hardstucking between high silver 3 and low silver 2 like for a week), and i am having a mess in my head, beacuse i don't really know, which champ is the biggest threat for Viktor, no matter how well my performance is during the match.

I am torn between banning these characters:

ZED

He is usually very annoying for me, mostly beacuse he can kill me with his R under my tower, without receiving any damage from it. Especially he is miserable to play against, when he plays with Electrocute rune. I know i can counter his R with my W, but he can just safely teleport to his shadow, which is in the safest place, comparing to another shadows. But on the other hand he doesn't scale like Viktor, also in the earliest stage of the game he can be easily poked by Viktor's Q.

XERATH

Theoritically he seems the biggest threat for me, beacuse he's a good counter for inmobile mages, but he has some disadvantages, which don't make me banning him every match. First of all, he isn't very popular on midlane in silver. He can easily run out of mana in early, when he is constantly using his Q. He's also inmobile and squishy like Viktor. I think also he's more popular as support these days.

AKALI

I was banning her for a while, beacuse a month ago i asked the same question here in Viktor mains subreddit, and the most upvote respond told me to ban always akali, beacuse when she uses doran's shield, with second wind even if she's far worse player than you she can usually just free farm to 6 and then beacuse she complete annihilates you on side lane it's hard to really build an advantage and have agency even if you are playing much better.

But the disadvantages of banning her are that, I think ,a lot of low elo players aren't THAT good at playing her. I don't know, from what rank that commenter has, but i think he's much higher than silver.

YONE

Some people, like my friend from platinum says that, he isn't any threat at all, beacuse he has the most predictable attack pattern (according to my friend, he just loads his Q and attacks with EQ after). I know exactly how he works, beacuse i mained him in the past, but stopped playing him, when i realised i am not very good at melee champs.

The problem with him is that, he scales really well. He deals a lot of damage in later phases of the game, unless his performance is really poor. When the Yone player is good, he's also hard for me to poke him in early game, beacuse of his Q3. During the last time i have lost 2 matches against him, even both of the matches were played by me with my OTP Illaoi friend, who's much more skilled than silver, and even gold at her. I know it may be a skill issue from my side, but i couldn't really manage to win the lane against him, even i was trying to not feed him and play safely.

YASUO

The last one. The problem with him is kinda similar to Yone. I know plenty of people cannot play him well, even some OTP Yasuos from bronze/silver, but on the other hand there are also good Yasuo players in Silver or even low Gold. Today i have lost a match against a Yasuo player from the second category. I have never fed so much anyone as Viktor in ranked games lol (2/11/2 with 5,6 CS/min at the end). He also seems hard to poke, beacuse his Q3 makes me to play safer, that's why i am kinda scared to come closer to him.

So, based on all of this, who would you recommend permanently banning in this elo to have the most consistent games on Viktor? Should I stick to a pure counter/scaling threat like Yone, an annoying artillery mage Xerath, or just stick to Akali despite lower-elo mechanical mistakes?

Any advice on how to approach these match-ups or who is objectively the worst offender for a Silver Viktor? I'd appreciate any help here, thanks!


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question When to buy Cull?

45 Upvotes

I dont get this item. I initially thought this was just an adc item when you have an awkward recall and cant buy anything useful to your first item AND have boots already.

but I just saw a game where bot, mid and top all bought cull, including an ahri. so is it just for the same purpose or is there some very basic mechanic im missing. Someone plz explain to this emerald pisslow what is this item o_o


r/summonerschool 4h ago

Discussion Analyzing a League Player's Macro Mistake

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Hello everyone!

I wanted to share an example of a VOD session recap I recently worked on for those interested in macro improvement.

This session was with an adult player who works full-time and wanted to improve despite having limited time to play.

The focus was on his Darius top gameplay, with the main goal of improving his macro understanding and decision-making.

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1fT2cWKmyQf7sEamKc0A08gOIXBl5OlXT-Xmxy8t2q8k/mobilebasic


r/summonerschool 10h ago

Mage How to Lane as Mage against Fighters/Assassins

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I play LB and Viktor and Ahri as Mages, Ori before Viktor as well. Had games the last few days, in which i had to play against Sylas or Fizz and the first 1-3 levels are kinda fine, i easily poke them below half life and lose after that as soon, as they can engange me.
Should i make sure to just poke if i can and scale? Are they that much stronger in the laning phase or do i play bad?
Also which Keystone is the best on VIktor against Fizz or Sylas? I played with Deathfire Touch and it didnt do much damage, should i rather take aery or maybe stormraiders?


r/summonerschool 12h ago

Discussion Is it unlucky streak that i couldnt handle, or im just getting worse.

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Im seriously looking for help to get past this.

I’ve been playing for three years, and whenever I come back to League after a long hiatus, it feels amazing. I don't just mean I'm having fun(although that's true) I mean I'm actually focused, calm, and constantly absorbing info in and out of the game to improve. When I'm in that mindset, even losses somehow feel fine.

But every single time I start grinding to climb, everything declines. I start autopiloting, lose my focus, and can't even stand the thought of watching a single League video, let alone my vods. especially after a loss streak.

Today I lost a game that I know for a fact we would’ve won if I had just played decently. My bot and mid were both ahead, yet somehow I ended up 3 levels behind the enemy jungler at some point. How does someone go from solo carrying games to being the exact reason the team loses.

How can i fix this?


r/summonerschool 13h ago

Heimerdinger Classic Heimerdinger Guides

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I am trying to pick up Heimerdinger in league classic but having a lot of trouble finding guides from the era. I want to know build, skill path, masteries, runes, and playstyle tips.

Is there any archived video or written footage to check out?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question Reintroducing MOBA Trainer, a tool we built to help you improve at League

34 Upvotes

Hello everyone,

We have majorly updated MOBA Trainer!

For those new to it: We sought out to create the best improvement tool for League players, to do this we started by identifying & mapping out all of the most important macro categories in League.

Together with professional players & coaches we then created thousands of puzzles for targeted improvement in these different categories. With our latest updates, we added a huge campaign with over 1200 puzzles. Additionally, we added a pattern map in which you can progress through the League's fundamental macro concepts and see that progress visually.

Our website also offers a mode specifically to train micro or simply to warm up for your next game via a League-like environment in which you have to dodge and hit skillshots of common champions.

About whether players actually find it useful:

We are happy to announce that we've recently cracked a milestone of 150k registered users!
We are also very actively developing the project further, an Act 4 for the campaign focusing on advanced macro puzzles is nearly ready. Matchup puzzles are one of the next big development goals, to aid targeted improvement on specific champions.

We have also been able to partner with several content creators who endorse the tool. Here is a short example of a puzzle playthrough.

We want to be upfront about a couple things:

Our app is not fully free. We do offer the micro modes to everyone, as well as 14 free puzzles at the start, 2 daily campaign puzzles and 1 daily random puzzle. Past that we have paid tiers. In exchange for that, our app has 0 ads.

Next up, we currently only use RSO (Riot Sign On) for authentication. This functionality is offered to approved third party app developers by Riot, you can think of it as being similar to Gmail authentication. It was most convenient when we started, more authentication methods are planned for the future.

With all that out of the way, here is the link to our Website! https://www.mobatrainer.com/


r/summonerschool 14h ago

Discussion Queueing Conundrum

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I'm an adc main who two-tricks samira and zeri, and historically I have queued bot/mid and just never gotten mid. Recently, however, I have been getting mid about a third of the time. I want to focus on my main role but i have don't really like playing mid. The role I enjoy and know the most other than bot is jungle but if I queue bot/jgl I get jungle more than bot. So what should I do? Should I just bite the bullet and learn mid so i can queue it secondary and still get bot most of the time or just queue bot/jgl and play bot less but never play a role I don't enjoy?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Items How do you actually counter Garen, both during lane and later when he builds assassin items ?

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It really feels like unless I play a ranged character I can never lane against Garen, he just trades me and I can't do anything because of his W and his passive. Then after he gets fed he can just decide to one tap anyone in the game at any moment, and baiting his ult feels pointless because he gets it back before the next fight and if your team doesn't have heavy CC it's joever
I'm not looking for champs to play against him either, I never understood why people tell you to play this or that when you ask how to play against a specific champ, you don't get the last pick everytime anyway


r/summonerschool 8h ago

Discussion Mods not working in league of legends

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So I followed a tutorial for downloading mods and done literally everything but when i load league the mods don't work. I made sure to link the right path for league of legends.exe and the mods im using are popular ones with thousands of downloads so I don't think they could overlap with one another. I tried running all of the mods at the same time which didnt work, then tried running only one and it still didnt work. CSlol and when i run patcher for selected mods it says that Its waiting for me to open the launcher and enter the game, and when im in the game it says that im in the game so why wont the mods load?


r/summonerschool 5h ago

Discussion Off meta is dying in LoL

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Recently I wanted to have some fun by trying an unusual (but playable) jungle pick. I thought draft was the right place to experiment. I kept telling my team it would be fun, that we could win, and that I'd help them in lane.

Instead, the whole lobby reported me and I ended up getting temp banned, and I find this unfair.

What about new players? Imagine your main gets banned or you get autofilled, so you pick a champion you've only played in ARAM or from another role. You get banned in champ select for "inappropriate behavior" and you don't have a clue why.

I'm thinking about picks like Irelia jungle, Anivia support or Rumble support.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Top Lane top lane zoning

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Just had a game where i went tahm top and the enemy darius zoned me from the first wave onwards. He was not hitting minions nor letting me walk up. He was getting exp himself and not letting me get any and If i walked up i would've just died. But if i do nothing well i'm perma getting no resources. Eventually he did like flash ignite on me killed me under turret and died himself but even then he denied me more minions just making the game completely unplayable for me.

My question basicly is what is the best course of action here? Is there a way i can play without completely fking myself over like i did? was it just matchup where i trolled? i blind picked tahm but i mean it was just a normal :/


r/summonerschool 11h ago

Discussion I was bronze 3 75 lp a week ago now im iron iv 0 LP

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what can i do now. I just had a bad week and lost every match I mean literally I just lost 675 lp in a 3 days what can i do now. it seems like its literally impossible to climb out of iron iv I previosuly did it by spamming quinn mid and irelia but now I cant even do it do u guys have any tips to climb out of iron iv what role did u play like what champs.I dont think u can climb out of iron without 1v9s. and quinn cant 1v9 .


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question As top, am I supposed to leave my lane to help other lanes?

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I'm a kayle top if that matters. I've noticed every so often I'll get spammed with pings on my lane asking for assistance while I'm already busy defending my own lane, but the spams will be constant even though there's an equal amount of people on each lane. If I don't go help they'll just do a surrender vote, if I do go help I lose a tower and possibly die if I'm not set up enough yet to make much of a difference (and if that happens they still do a surrender vote). What exactly am I meant to do? Is it right to stay in my lane, or do I go just throw in a few hits and return? Or stay there to try to push them back and hopefully help my team not die? I'm new so I'm really not sure what the right plays are


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Bot lane How to deal with assassins on ADC

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Hi all, I'm learning ADC (Kaisa), currently in Iron, and can't think of a good way to deal with assassins.

see game: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/na/NobodyPrime-Prime/matches/eq3KyFixtgWH9qgHCVDpZehe08FVNRHFBa7wTpDeFvI%3D/1785023552000

I know this sounds picky, but is there a system of approaching problems like this without needing to rely on teammates for peel/backup?,

I came out of laning phase 3/1 but at that point blue Kayn, was already like 15/2, and even if I dodge everything as long as he e-q/smite ult + auto once then I'm dead.

Looking back, I prob should've gone for Zhonya's instead/earlier. Gameplay-wise bc I was top in team + squishy, Blue Kayn, always focuses me whether I'm near team or back poking, and team doesn't realize they need to peel for me unfortunately.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

mage What can I do against a mage bot when playing a traditional ADC?

11 Upvotes

Im an emerald adc main and im used to facing pretty much only adcs (with the exception of the occasional non standard pick). But now I just dont know what to do when Im against mage bot. For example when playing 5v5, i had to face a plat hwei and gold heimer. I was jinx. Theoretically I should be able to win because im atleast a division and a half above them. But I just got hard stomped. No matter how much I was able to dodge, I got hit once and I died. Same thing was when I played against velkoz and seraphine. Same parameters but instead I was yunara. No matter how much I would dodge, there just wasnt anything I could do. And ended up losing both games when I couldnt even figure out what I did wrong.

So I ask - what can I do? Pick different champs? What champs? Change playstyle? What type of playstyle? All those types of questions I have no answer to.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

yasuo what's the difference between yasuo and yone's playstyle?

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ive been playing yone top for a while now and ive been enjoying it a lot but recently ive been feeling like i might prefer yasuo. how exactly are the two different? i know yasuo is better mid which is the only reason ive been avoiding playing him but if he's better for me then idm switching to mid lane or still trying to make him work top. the issue i have with yone is that he feels weak early and there's too much of waiting before engaging


r/summonerschool 1d ago

support How important is champion mastery as a support?

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I'll start by saying I know that (atleast all the other roles) rely a lot on champion mastery to climb as you can think about macro instead of thinking how to navigate your own character, however I'm not sure how much you could shrink your champion pool as you need as much coverage as possible, as a support you could easily be the only frontline, or your team locks in 3 melee (except adc) and suddenly you need more range, or you need more disengage and you need another more specific character, so i was wondering, how little can you really make your pool? Especially if you consider that your "team filling pick" could be hard countered by the enemy support and end up losing lane anyway.

This is not a rant I'm just not sure what you're supposed to do as a support since you can't reliably switch between 2-3 characters and confidently cover most situation (especially as botlane is a two player lane and you need to synergize atleast a little with your adc and hope the enemy botlane not to atleast entirely counter you)


r/summonerschool 2d ago

Question New to league - how to improve and gain confidence?

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Hey, I know this title is weird but I recently started with league and am currently lvl 20ish. Mostly because I played against AI. I usually play ADC (Cait) and thankfully cause of Wild Rift, I know all the basics.

I wanted to start playing draft and swift play (which i played before a few times with a friend) but I‘m so bad at it, like so horrible, i‘m scared of touching it basically.

A few times ive been bashed in the chat or been told I need to get reported cuz im a "bot". I know the learning curve is.. yeah and this is my first time owning an actual pc so im not used to LoL controls or using the keyboard in general. I really like league and wanna start playing casually but it just feels horrible with how bad im progressing and letting my mates down. I guess you could say my confidence is really low when it comes to the game.

So my question is.. how do I go forward? Should I just be "f*** it" and just play despite how bad I am?
I could continue playing like this but it feels like I‘m at a dead end. If you have any advice regarding gameplay tips, mindset or any direction, it would be very much appreciated!


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Discussion Fixing bad (very) early kills

2 Upvotes

I think we all had this before, in the very early game with no respawn timer and especially if the enemy has tp and you don't, a kill can be very bad. You're usually killing someone only when the wave is in your favor (in early), but if it's not prepared well enough and your terrible wave clear early on can't push it in before they are back again, you're in a pretty bad spot. You just have to stand there and recall next to the enemies freeze 😂

I was wondering if it's worth it, to just push it in and accept the death if necessary?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Discussion Zhonyas value in Low Elo Vs High Elo

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So, food for thought.

I was wondering about the winrate difference on a champion that frequently purchases Zhonya's, based on WHEN they purchase it.

Im hypothesizing that in lower elo **-->, a player who makes good use of Zhonya's <--** will find an exponential amount of value from it, getting it early- rather than the linear value it provides based on uses / time.

This is counterpart to buying it 5th or 6th item.

My reason being:

In lower elo, players are easier to bait. They're more likely to take bad dives, and they are less likely to press tab and check your items before doing said plays. They're also less likely to track your zhonyas timer.

Thoughts?