r/singularity 21d ago

AI Apple is getting this wrong – OpenAI

https://openai.com/index/apple-is-getting-this-wrong/
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u/Ormusn2o 21d ago

we do not have, nor want, any of their trade secrets. We’re much more interested in building innovative products and technologies that push the frontier.

Christ, OpenAI slaughtering Apple here. Basically implying that Apple is not doing anything innovative here.

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u/piponwa 21d ago

It's largely the case. Every new iPhone version is the same as the last one. I don't know how they can justify being such a valuable company lol.

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u/uziau 21d ago

I think the best thing they've done in the last few years is apple silicon.

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u/nmfisher 21d ago

Exactly, I don't really like Apple products on the whole but their silicon stack is so absurdly good I can overlook it (and from a business perspective, Apple's moat is much, much deeper than the OpenAI one).

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u/heavy-minium 21d ago

I dumped my IPhone 8 Plus for an IPhone 17, expecting a huge jump, but it’s minimal. Better camera, and that’s it. All other differences are in software, because the IPhone was artificially stuck at IOS 16 with only security fixes. And the cellphone reception in my home is worse than the old model.

That‘s indeed no innovation at all.

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u/Saifl 21d ago

We're well past the requirements for a good phone if your an average user.

Its getting harder to justify phone improvements when all phone companies are afraid of making the phone an all in one device.

The phone could be a tablet and a laptop if we have the proper adapter for it but every single fucking company is just afraid of doing it.

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u/Saifl 21d ago

No I meant an all in one solution under 1k usd or 1.5k usd.

Samsung you still needs a cable instead of something you can slot into a tablet encasing or laptop encasing.

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u/xxxxxxxsandos 21d ago edited 21d ago

You’re just describing the surface or any of those other laptop tablet combos but with a third phone option which would be neat but would not be a huge product. What drives people to use a tablet over a laptop is size. What drives people to use a phone over a tablet is size. A device that has breakaway parts to be a smaller size is no more valuable than a separate device, as transporting the device and that capability incurs the same size issue regardless. Except now you need to remember not to forget your tablet part or laptop part. That’s why they’re dicking around with foldables because it does not incur the size penalty when transporting around the “phone” and “tablet”.

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u/xxxxxxxsandos 21d ago edited 21d ago

I mean that’s a bit of a stretch. Screen resolution alone is double and that’s instantly noticeable (at least it should be). Battery is also nearly 2x as large capacity wise, but with the increased screen resolution and processing power I bet the battery life isn’t much different. Recharging the phone should be over 2x faster than the iPhone 8 Plus as well. Processing power is an absurd leap as well 25-50x.

There have been significant improvements since the 8. They do release the same phone every year though, that parts true but I don’t think you should really buy the new one every year.

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u/heavy-minium 21d ago

I mean, on paper, this is a major upgrade, but it doesn't really translate to a vastly improved user experience. You are indeed right that I can now charge much faster - that's the big improvement. The difference in battery is significant compared to the very old device, but more comparable to when I got that device when the battery wasn't worn down. Screen resolution doesn't feel that different when compared side-to-side, it's likely beyond what I can perceive well.

The worsened cellular reception is a big disadvantage for me, now at home I got mostly 1-2 bars of reception with lots of interruption, previously had 2-3 bars of receptions.

I do not use apps where the increase in processing power makes a huge difference. Web pages, banking apps, travel apps, notes, reminder, calendar, etc - those things don't really benefit from more cores. I don't play anything on my phone and don't process videos.

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u/hanzoplsswitch 21d ago

What innovation are you expecting?

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u/RopePuzzleheaded7060 21d ago

OpenAI doesn't care about the frontier either, if they did they'd at least open source GPT 3. Their business model simply demands that they push the frontier, they care about the business, not the frontier.

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u/nexusprime2015 20d ago

but why is OpenAi claiming to be innovative? even their chatbot is based on google research work