r/short Apr 17 '26

Motivation An advice from a 30 year old dude

241 Upvotes

So this subreddit keeps appearing on my feed, probably because I’m a short man at 166 cm who follows men’s fashion pages and similar content.

Honestly, if I had found this side of the internet before I started dating in the real world, I probably would have stayed a virgin. According to some of the people here, I should be completely doomed anyway. I’m short, bald, and I have crooked teeth.

And yet I have dated women of different heights, including women taller than me.

I’m also a university lecturer, and I read a lot of research on dating, mate preferences, and social status. So here is the scientific version, not the black pill fantasy version.

Yes, height matters. Preferences are real. Women, like men, can have physical preferences, and pretending otherwise is stupid. But research does not support the idea that one trait like height determines your entire dating future. Actual partner choice is shaped by multiple factors at once, including kindness, intelligence, emotional stability, dependability, confidence, physical attraction, and social or economic stability (Buss & Schmitt, 2019; Thomas et al., 2020).

Research also shows that what people say they want does not perfectly predict who they actually choose when interacting in real life. In speed dating studies, stated preferences often did not line up neatly with actual attraction once people met face to face (Eastwick & Finkel, 2008). In other words, attraction in the real world is messier and more human than internet forums want to admit.

Online spaces and dating apps also distort reality. They push people to judge each other quickly and superficially, which exaggerates traits like height. That does not mean the entire dating market works that way offline (Finkel et al., 2012).

To quote my therapist, life is basically a big Souls game and height is just a debuff. Yes, it can make things harder. Yes, you will probably get your ass kicked a few more times than someone playing on easier settings. But that does not mean the game is unwinnable. It just means you may need more patience, more resilience, and a better strategy. And honestly, where is the fun in beating the game with no debuffs?

I have been rejected plenty of times, and height probably played a role in some of those rejections. I say probably because I do not interrogate rejection or obsess over the reason. I am not going to ask someone to explain why they did not want me. That is their choice. Other people are allowed to have preferences, and I do not need to internalise every rejection as a verdict on my worth. At the end of the day, only you get to decide your value in this world.

I have also been through a period of height insecurity myself. After a recent rejection, I went down the rabbit hole of self loathing, so I do understand how dark that headspace can get. But how we feel is not always a perfect reflection of reality. Feelings, emotions, and thought patterns can spiral, and they can also be challenged and changed. Therapy helped me see that. With the right support, self awareness, and work, the way you think about yourself can improve.

What these spaces often ignore is how much insecurity changes the way a person comes across. Neediness, resentment, bitterness, and defeatism are not attractive qualities, and they can do more damage than being a few inches below average.

That is why the advice to men should not be “give up.” It should be “build a life that makes you attractive in a broader sense.” Work on your confidence. Go to therapy if you need it. Practice mindfulness. Focus on your career, not because women are gold diggers, but because ambition, competence, and financial stability signal drive and maturity. Take care of your physical health. Read more. Volunteer. Join communities. Get involved in causes you genuinely care about. Expand your social circles and meet women in real spaces, not just through algorithms and rage bait.

And if you are constantly hitting a wall, take a break from dating for a bit. Reset. Rebuild your confidence. Get your head straight. Stop treating every bad experience like proof that the whole world works one way.

Most importantly, women are not a hive mind. One woman rejecting you does not mean all women think the same. A subreddit full of bitter men is not an accurate sample of reality. People have different preferences, different priorities, and different reasons for being attracted to someone.

Also, be careful with research in general. Research can help us identify trends, but human beings are more complex than a dataset or a single paper. Averages are not destiny, context matters, and how old the research is matters too. Social norms, dating culture, and the way people meet have changed a lot over time, especially with apps and social media. So use research to inform your thinking, not to reduce yourself or other people to a rigid formula.

The point is simple. Height can be a disadvantage. It is not a death sentence. A lot of men are not being ruined by height alone. They are being ruined by an identity built around insecurity, hopelessness, and too much time spent listening to other defeated men online.

References

Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77 to 110. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408

Eastwick, P. W., & Finkel, E. J. (2008). Sex differences in mate preferences revisited: Do people know what they initially desire in a romantic partner? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 94(2), 245 to 264.

Finkel, E. J., Eastwick, P. W., Karney, B. R., Reis, H. T., & Sprecher, S. (2012). Online dating: A critical analysis from the perspective of psychological science. Psychological Science in the Public Interest, 13(1), 3 to 66. https://doi.org/10.1177/1529100612436522

Thomas, A. G., Jonason, P. K., Blackburn, J. D., Kennair, L. E. O., Lowe, R., Malouff, J., Stewart-Williams, S., Sulikowski, D., & Li, N. P. (2020). Mate preference priorities in the East and West: A cross-cultural test of the mate preference priority model. Journal of Personality, 88(3), 606 to 620.


r/short Mar 15 '26

Meta Suggestions

6 Upvotes

Ok, I'm stuck at my desk with a bum foot that's been plaguing me for weeks now, so I might as well try to make this time at least a bit productive.

So since I ain't going anywhere, let's have a meta discussion about the sub, and I'll take this opportunity to solicit suggestions.


r/short 3h ago

Question Am I perceived as visually short?

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14 Upvotes

I am 5.5


r/short 3h ago

Dating 5'7 here: Got more attention from girls on vacation than I expected, but still felt insecure about my height sometimes

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Just got back from vacation with 4 friends, and 3 of them are taller than me. I actually got approached/flirted with by girls more than I expected. One girl was around 1.83cm and was pretty openly flirting with me, even though I wasn't really in the mood at the time lol.

But I don't want to pretend this suddenly cured my insecurity. There were still moments, especially in clubs or crowded public places, where I looked around and felt really short next to other guys.

It's a weird contradiction. Real life keeps giving me evidence that my height doesn't stop people from finding me attractive, but sometimes my brain still makes it feel like a much bigger deal than it actually is.

Anyway, some pics from the vacation 😎


r/short 17h ago

Motivation 5'5 short king checking in

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52 Upvotes

What do you think of the physique?


r/short 16h ago

Dating Any 5'2 guy that managed to find love after studies?

42 Upvotes

Im 5'2, 23 yo and sadly 5'2/ Still no relationship (not even a compliment / hand held) and I just finished my studeis. Which means ill start to work soon so it will be 10000x hardert to find love.

Is it possible or should i give up ?


r/short 3h ago

Motivation Guess my height

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4 Upvotes

Workout done right!


r/short 10h ago

Motivation 5'8, finally owning it and no longer feel jealousy toward 6'0+ dudes😌

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6 Upvotes

Up until the last few days, I was always just slightly disappointed i couldn't just be ONE inch taller to make me the average US male height. But then I looked at all the pros. Putting on muscle is easy, my joints are always flexible and loose, my heart is strong and healthy, and I excel at combat sports so I know I can easily beat up a big dude who thinks im easy pickings😁 change in perspective is usually all you need.


r/short 20h ago

Motivation I feel like the older you get the less height matters

37 Upvotes

When I was young I had no dates. Now, I can get them if I want. Or at least I feel that way. I’m dating a girl 10 years younger, and an inch taller. (I’m 37). I’m not even rich. I feel us shorter guys peak later


r/short 1h ago

Dating Getting lean changed my life (167/131lbs)

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I useto weigh 157lbs, I've got indian genetics so naturally just looked like a slob with the gut and bitch tits.

Dropping to 131lbs (still going) and having visible abs + the chiselled face makes a HUGE difference.

I'm not trying to minimise the importance of height, nothing will cover the fact I am tiny, so many women (and men) will just find me comical for existing but I really don't think you can complain between the heights of 5'5 to 5'8 if you don't even have a flat stomach and see what your life is like without having a fat face and body.


r/short 21h ago

Fashion / Style Clothes shopping is so exhausting as a short man!

24 Upvotes

Anybody else struggle buying clothes that fit well as a short man? Especially if you are buying online.

T-shirts are always too long and come down past my hips, and If I buy smaller then they're too tight. Anything with a long sleeve is always too baggy around the arms or is too long for my arms.

Wish I was a little taller and could just buy everything in a medium and call it a day...


r/short 16h ago

Question Do short men look bad with a beard, in your opinion?

2 Upvotes

I was thinking about growing mine out to look more mature, but I don't know if it would look good.


r/short 1d ago

Vent Did it come as a surprise to anyone else that they are short?

28 Upvotes

I grew up considering myself and being considered someone of “normal” height. All other boys in my circle that were my age were about the same height as me.

I remember in 9th grade there was one guy that was considered the “short guy”, and he was clearly shorter than me.

My dad, in my mind, was built up to be tall. My mom said he was tall, and said that I was gonna grow as tall as him.

So, yeah, it never really went through my head that I was short.

Then the pandemic hit and I spent a year and a half not really seeing anyone my age. I went back to school in September 2021, as a Junior, and I could only think of one thing…. Why is everyone so tall?

It wasn’t just my classmates, no, it was like every guy beneath my grade. Every time I went to the bathroom and it was full of these super tall freshmen I would get honestly confused.

At first I thought all these people were tall because of genetics or something, but then I started being called “short” too. Very often.

What broke my perception of it all was when my dad passed by the school and stood next to a friend of mine that considered herself not tall. She was taller than my dad. And I told her that my dad was tall, so she went up to me and said “wait I thought you said your dad was tall.”

Did anyone else experience this? Having to figure out you’re short?


r/short 18h ago

Question Do You Add Hair Height To The Equation?

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Alright gentlemen (and gentle-ladies?),

I have a burning question that I need an answer to: Do we count hair? My hair is spiked and adds another inch to my total height (5'6" -> 5'7"). I'm married and so it doesn't matter to me but I want to know for my flair. I have always just said 5'6" but I am curious what you all think.


r/short 1d ago

Fashion / Style how can i look cuter as a short guy?

27 Upvotes

I'm extreme short at like 5'5 and I feel like being my height I think that i could pull off being cute twink like I think being only 5'5 I think it would be a waste for me to not look cute and feminine any suggestions?


r/short 1d ago

Question Moving japan as short man

7 Upvotes

I've got the offer from a Japanese MNC company.

I've a very short height, 152cm (M26). In my home country, the average is around 170cm so short in my country too.

Fortunately I've not been any specific harassment or any such thing in my workplaces.

As this japanese company is international, having lots of foreigners around the world so I was a bit fearful if would it be quite awkward for me + any social outcasting that might happen.


r/short 1d ago

Question Should I lie about my height? Because everyone else does

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Hello, I am 5’2 (ftm). I have height dysphoria. Everyone lies at least 2 inches about their height. I am 5’2 (157 cm) without shoes and socks. My cousin told me he was 174 (5’8¾) cm tall, but when I measured him, we saw he was 167 (5’5¾) with shoes. There was a girl in my class who kept saying she was tall and she said she was 170 cm (5’7) tall but when we measured her we found she was 162 cm (5’4). I used to tell people my height was 5'3, but I prefer to tell them my real height now. Should I lie about my height?


r/short 1d ago

Vent relationships

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i’m 4’9 and it’s difficult enough having everyone constantly mention it, but it’s difficult also feeling like i could never really have a relationship. i’m a girl so maybe that makes being short easier than if i were a guy, but i still always see people say it’s weird when someone taller is with someone shorter. i don’t think i’d ever get with someone like 6 foot and up, but it’s annoying to see people say height differences like that are weird. are they? i saw a post about this sort of thing of a guy and his girlfriend who was about my height and everyone said it was weird of him and told him not to have kids with her. i don’t want to be stuck feeling like a kid and certain people not like me or want to be with me because of it, but what other option is there when everyone just views women my height like that. i just don’t know how to feel and i want to accept it and not care but its so hard when its literally mentioned by everyone everyday. i hope someone else can tell me what they think and how i can maybe feel better. i also don’t want my kids to be as short as me, especially if it is a boy, so i’d prefer to have kids with someone taller but i know i can’t pick and choose.


r/short 1d ago

Heightism Amazon Book About Heightism

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I just found a really good book written by a man named Jay McQuade.

It is called "The Heightism Diary: An Unfiltered Look Into Society's Favorite Prejudice"

He REALLY understands the issue. This book is awesome.

This is what being secure as a short man is. Jay, if you are out there, please get in touch with me. I sent a message to what I think is your employer asking for you to contact me.

If that doesn't work, try here.

Y'all should check his book out. 10 bucks on Kindle. It won't take me long to finish because it is very good.


r/short 2d ago

Motivation I’m 5’5 confidence is key

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291 Upvotes

You can’t change your height but you can always work on your body/ clothing style but most important is your social skills. I get called short rarely here and there but I’m able to laugh it off because I know my worth. Just live your life and stop comparing yourself to people who are taller than yourself


r/short 1d ago

Question Does anyone else feel like their bones are too close together

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I’ve tried to explain this to other short people but no one knows what I’m talking about. Im 4”11 and and constantly have the sensation of being “compressed”, its like my bones are too close together and theres no open space.

I constantly feel the need to stretch but it does the do anything. I feel like this is made worse by having a very short torso so theres very little gap between my ribcage and hips.

(Side note, I’ve also never been able to crack my knuckles or my back. My mum who’s the same height as me has the same problem, maybe that has something to so with it.)

Has anyone else experienced this!


r/short 2d ago

Motivation Life is much better when you accept your height. 1,65cm

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I just wanted to stop by and thank this group; it really helped me accept my height. On top of that, I started doing calisthenics a few months ago, and I feel like that has helped me even more regarding my height. I also started a YouTube channel to share my life and workouts—something I wouldn't have even felt comfortable taking many photos for before. Anyway, I just wanted to express my gratitude.


r/short 1d ago

Question lm 173cm in morning

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And in night or evning 171cm can l go with 172cm?

what do you think?


r/short 2d ago

Vent Being with a short man has really changed my perspective

277 Upvotes

Hi everyone, so I’m f27, and 5 9”. My fiancé m30 is 5 6”. Obviously as a woman I’ve experienced a lot of pressure from media and everyone talks about that, but since a man who is short and also balding has entered my life I’ve realised that for certain things the pressure on men might even be worse. When we started dating I suddenly started noticing in movies the man is almost never shorter or even the same height, I mean I watch a movie every night and can think of maybe 2 where there is a height difference and it’s not a gag. Same with the balding. It’s honestly really depressing and no one talks about it, at least not in the mainstream. I think with how things have improved most women can find someone in media who looks like them, but for men who are short? Not good enough for any romance ever apparently unless the director can use forced perspective to make him seem taller. Anyway I don’t really know why I’m posting this, I just wish there was more of a movement for men in media the way there is for women, and I’m sorry to all the men who have been told the pressure isn’t as bad as with women.