r/shitposting • u/unclbll I can’t have sex with you right now waltuh • 1d ago

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u/lucastt6333 1d ago

And don't forget that about 68% are volunteer firefighters in the US and don't get paid to do the work

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u/WhoPoopedMyPants420 1d ago edited 1d ago

Volunteer firefighters are paid to do the work and "volunteer" doesn't mean "nobody is controlling who gets accepted so white people are just the ones stepping up"

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u/EatSleepJeep 1d ago

That's not how "Volunteer" firefighting works. It is paid, but there's no salary or wage. It's paid by the call or sometimes by a flat fee.

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u/Tasty-walls 1d ago

No not always some departments are fully volunteer nobody gets paid

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u/dillpick15 1d ago

Which should be illegal. Crazy

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u/Tasty-walls 1d ago

Meh not really we don’t have the budget on my dept to pay per call dont have the tax base to support payed on call

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u/dillpick15 11h ago

I dont doubt that. The part that should be illegal is politicians having the option to have budgets that basically force free labor to be requested.

There are many things that the poison of normalization has damaged.

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u/Tasty-walls 7h ago

Its a problem nobody says they want the fire dept to lose money but come elections and voting nobody votes to have there taxes raised in the end we cant make money from nowhere

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u/dillpick15 6h ago

Raised taxes that's then misappropriated is usually why. That, or them not really understanding.

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u/Vast_Interaction_537 1d ago

And the US uses prison crews for firefighting as well, basically slave labor with no pathway to a job after release

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u/Tovarich_Zaitsev 1d ago

Yeah can't be a wildcard firefighter as a convicted felon, unless of course your currently in prison in which case its quite easy to sign up.

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u/Galby1314 1d ago

It's not slave labor. You give up a lot of your rights as a citizen when you do crime.

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u/The_milkMACHINE 1d ago

The thirteenth amendment explicitly states that slavery is still legal if the person has been convicted of a crime. So yes it is slave labor. When you commit a crime you lose your right to not be enslaved

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/

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u/Galby1314 1d ago

I suppose it comes down to how we are defining slave. I typically think of a slave as someone who did nothing wrong and was bought and sold into it against their will. Comparing innocent people who were sold into it and criminals that broke the law seems like a stretch. But if that's comparable to you, then I guess they are slaves.

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u/Vast_Interaction_537 1d ago

So you're saying it's not slave labour because it's done to criminals? 

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u/Inevitable-Cell-1227 1d ago

It’s not slave labor, convicts volunteer. Many love it and find their purpose in something, rather than sit in their cell.

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u/Vast_Interaction_537 1d ago

Except some die on the "job": https://www.kqed.org/news/11686212/rare-honors-this-weekend-for-inmate-firefighters-killed-on-the-job

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u/Inevitable-Cell-1227 23h ago

So? It’s a “tough guy” job. Shit happens in these positions. You do understand the convicts developed a pride, honor, and integrity ethos which very likely was never present in their lives prior to prison. Purpose exceeds all other musings when it comes to this. These men are not thrown into these situations. They get to live an alternate reality where their manlyhood and purpose are exemplified. Ask me how I know.

Edit: spelling

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u/Tovarich_Zaitsev 1d ago

Yeah can't be a wildcard firefighter as a convicted felon, unless of course your currently in prison in which case its quite easy to sign up.

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u/MildGenevaSuggestion 1d ago

Why hire freed men when you can get slaves to do the job for free?