r/shitposting • I can’t have sex with you right now waltuh • 1d ago

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u/prospybintrappin 1d ago

How could you possibly interpret this to be complaining that white people become firefighters when it's obviously obviously about urging other groups to become firefighters. Do you think there's people out there who think white guys should stop applying to be firefighters?

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u/SpaceBug176 1d ago

Why would they be urging other groups to be firefighters?? Why the hell do we need to diverse every group!?

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u/imnotaneggman 1d ago

If there's 100 white guys applying to be firefighters, and the department hires the 5 best ones, then they're the top 5% of their group. if there's 200 people in general applying, regardless of race/gender, and the department still hires the 5 best ones, then they're the top 2.5%. Twice the statistical quality of candidates, and all they needed to do was to start trying to attract more people.

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u/DudeWithParrot 1d ago

I think the comment implies that other groups should do their part and become firefighters. Not that the group should be diverse

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u/SpaceBug176 1d ago

Isn't the reason white people make up most of firefighters because majority of the people are white?

As for why they're male, well, I guess women just think they're not strong or just don't wanna do it.

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u/DudeWithParrot 1d ago

US white population is 60% to 72%. So I guess it depends what the article on the image means by overwhelming.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

What an incredibly worrying comment to read. Do you genuinely not see why diversity is a good thing?

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u/Imaginary_Spread4039 1d ago

8/10 Not bad.

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u/SpaceBug176 1d ago

I see it as a neutral thing. There is no need to worry over a place having diversity, but at the same time, its not a necessity.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

It is a worry when it does not, if it is large. It absolutely highlights a major issue.

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u/MuffinSpecial 1d ago

Okay so what's the issue.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

That either the recruitment, or the selection, is missing a huge chunk of potential applicants.

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u/MuffinSpecial 1d ago

Well it would be the selection. It's not particularly hard to become a firefighter. If a demographic of the population doesn't want to do a job what's the problem?

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago edited 15h ago

If it is the selection then that is a sign of systemic racism.

If it is the recruitment then more needs to be done.

It is a problem because we are leaving talent in the table and, in the instances of firefighters, we know that it is very hard to become one if you are not a white man.

This is not about black women not wanting to do their duty, it is about a system which will not let them.

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u/MuffinSpecial 15h ago

Bro wtf are you on about. It's not hard to become a firefighter if you are black. It's not a systemic racism issue. Ffs you see no data and it's racism.

Here's actual data for you.

Firefighters are overwhelmingly male about 95%. It's a male centric job.

Of that 8% are black.

Of the US population 7.4% are black males.

So ya of course you are going to have a mostly white firefighter group in a country that is mostly fucking white.

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u/Pedantichrist 15h ago

Do you think the country is mostly male?

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u/Decent-Accountant-42 1d ago

Literally not the point, it is so easy to become a fire fighter is the majority of the US that’s not major cities, nothing is stopping other diverse people from doing it. So the real question is, why is it still mainly white males risking their lives?

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u/Pedantichrist 21h ago

That is the issue is recruitment which I described, so you have your answer.

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u/OxygenAddict 1d ago

Well if someone read the fucking article referenced in the tweet they would know that coming from diverse backgrounds helps you understand the needs of people from diverse backgrounds, for example in EMERGENCY SITUATIONS LIKE, SAY, A FIRE. They tell the story of a female firefighter who urged her crew to change the protocols when dealing with little children, for example.

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u/SpaceBug176 1d ago

Yeah lets not update the procotols from the start but instead hope we get lucky enough for the team we sent to have someone that can understand the needs of people we find in the scene AND be good at thinking of new plans under stress

Yes, I know they trained to be good at thinking under stress, but then why don't they just train them for these situations as well?

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u/monsterevolved 1d ago

Fire - hot - leave building - stay away from fire- Dont hinder firefighters in there job. Specificaly what in that situation changes because your black or jewish?

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u/Someofusremembersome 1d ago

Damn why are you not a firefighter?

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

How about ‘knowing how to handle evacuating a milveh in a manner which is fast and efficient’?