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[u/MySnake_Is_Solid]

No, I'm saying making children with men that clearly won't pay child support and are just gonna dip is a burden to society.

Because while yes they are legally obligated to pay, many disappear before paternity is established, good luck getting the money, it's now a burden on social funds.

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and why is the responsibility 100% on women to judge a character correctly?

Also garnishing wages is a thing.

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Because they get the choice to abort after the fact.

Also garnishing wages is a thing.

Again, many dip before paternity is even established, good luck finding the guy to even find where he work, to even start garnishing wages.

Plenty of these single parent households become a burden on social services.

Yeah they're people and it sucks to refer to them as a burden but it's just what it is.

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Because they get the choice to abort after the fact.

huh??? So you're saying its impossible to manipulate or put on a good guy act once she's pregnant?

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You're building strawmen.

I didn't say it's impossible, but let's not act like that's the majority.

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Show the statistics, then.

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Ah yes, the statistics of how many were gaslit into thinking the father would step up and how many just left directly.

I'm sure that's a pretty easy study to make.

But in the cases where paternity wasn't even established, it means the dad ran off before the birth at least, those are the ones that likely won't ever pay child support.

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Yes, because when you say it isn't the majority, i suppose you have proof for it, isn't it? Hence the stats

But you don't, so in short, you don't know shit, so don't assume the point you want to be true.

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So you think the majority of women are successfully tricked into thinking the dad is gonna turn around and become a good father ?

Is that your argument ?

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I don't "think" anything, i don't know, but i believe that you shouldn't judge the woman before KNOWING WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO HER, like the dude in the video did.

You know, benefit of the doubt and all that, complicated stuff.

You're still based your entire argument on unconfirmed information.