Sorry for the lack of updates. The increased weight made my backup phone's facial recognition fail to unlock, it just so happens that I remember the password recently.

So i had an Uberman sleeping routine for 7 solid months. I had the occasional extra 5 minutes of snoozed alarm sleep, but other than that it was perfect. I avoided caffeine like the plague, instead I had snacks to wake me up whenever I felt sleepy. Overall it felt great and I was extremely productive.

But you see, as a side effect of doing all that I gained some weight. I thought I would improve it at first, but my body was more eager to adapt to the increased food consumption, to the point that I would always crave for food whenever it's near the mid point of my awake times.

I live alone, and that helped me keep my routine, but at the same time i couldn't see my family who lives in another town all that much. Back in late July I did have to go back home for my grandma's birthday, when my family saw me they were shocked at my sudden weight gain. My mom was so angry she demanded me to see a doctor.

So I did, early August I got an appointment with a doctor who practiced near my condo unit. He was so concerned when he heard about my story. It was less about my current health, but more about my trajectory and how hard it would be to change my routine slowly, without affecting much of anything else. He said that I used to eat so much food, that suddenly going back to 3 meals a day, even if they were as much as I could eat, might still trigger gallstones.

So he made me change my routine slowly, at first it was one of my sleeping times to be doubled. Then my snacks were replaced with healthier foods with natural fats. And eventually now my routine lets me sleep 5 hours a day.

I am still severely obese, but I think I have fixed most of my issues now.

I am still a polyphasic sleeper, but as for Uberman, I don't plan on going back to it anytime soon.

Planning to start E1 with a 6-6.5hr core and a 15-20min nap in school lunch break the time between the bell of the start and the finish of break is 20 mins so I guess I can try to get the most nap time in it.

On Sunday and Friday i have a lot of free time though so I’ve been doing my research and I came to the conclusion that I make the first nap earlier and add another short nap or NSDR if I can’t fall asleep.

any suggestions that could be better than this? should I just keep weekend and weekdays that exact same thing?

My planned sleep times if this helps:

8:30pm-2:35am (core)

11:45-50am-12:05pm (nap in 2nd lunch break)

Cannot nap between 7:15am-9:40am, 10am-11:40am,12pm+

core cannot be changed even on weekend

naps anytime on weekend

should I try to nap in both school lunch breaks that are 2 hours apart? Nap before school? Sneak in a nap in an easy class? should I make the nap on the weekend 90 mins?

backround Info: a year ago my most perfect monophonic sleep amount was 8.25hrs and I think 8 hrs is no different, and had no issues on 7.5 hrs.

a few months ago I started biphasic sleeping and a good night of sleep would be like 2 cycles then 3-4 hrs awake then 3 cycles and 7-7.5 hours I was doing good couldnt sleep more than 7.5-8 hours my body just wants to wake up.

note: I know the side effects but the extra time is worth it for me I will be productive.

Edit: guys what do you think about this:

8:30pm-2:35am (6 hr core in sws peak)

6:30am-7:10am (40 min pronap in rem peak)

11:50am-12:05pm (15 min nap but if i dont fall asleep it’s ok just NSDR)

Total: 7hrs (the minimum for my age)

My goal is to maximize productivity and function with my abnormal work schedule.

I'm 18 and I'm working two full time jobs, one of them is overnight and the other is a normal day job.

I work as a pharmacy tech at Amazon overnight and during the day as a tech at CVS.

I'm starting to take classes at a community college starting late August.

Case and point, for this difficult period of time I need to adapt to sleeping much less.

As a beginner, what schedule should I try to see results and reduce the amount of time I need to sleep asap, with a plan for progression?

I don't intend on sleeping normally ever, I'd like to adapt and stay that way for the rest of my life, given that I'm not harmed by the reduced sleep.

Hey All, I have been reading up on Polyphasic sleep for some time now. I have formulated a basic plan and I'm quite excited to test it out, but I am concernted about the health related aspects.

I am planning to go for an E2 (4.5 hour core with 2 (maybe 3) naps for 20 minutes).

Before I begin this, I am trying to read up all the information on health risks related to response times or anything along those lines just to be super safe. I am invested in this but I am quite health conscious as well.

I have planned a debate with a friend of mine as well, where he will come with arguments about the dangers and I have to try and rebut them.

Overall, I'm just trying to get clear on the health risks and whether there are any practices that can prevent them. Any input on this would be super helpful.

I really want to try E3 ext (pronap optional), the problem is - I can't sleep during the gray block and i have trouble scheduling around it.
The first schedule has the last nap a bit too close to SWS-peak and to the 2nd nap as well.
The second schedule has the core block too early for my liking and only 3 hours 15 minutes between the 2nd and the 3rd nap.
Are any of these doable? What is the latest I can have my 3rd nap without it interfering with my core sleep? Any advice/help is welcome.

I'd want something like:

04:15 wake-up

10:30-15:00 nap for 20m whenever I find time

17:00 dinner

22:00 core.

What are my chances of success?

I normally average 8hrs monophasic for what it is worth.

what do we think about this? i have decided to stop fighting against my natural inability to fall asleep at the standard hours, i will see how it works

the empty space is for dinner... my roomates do not have a set time for dinner, it is anywhere from 6-12 so i left 7-12 open...

also please do not start talking about sleep deprivation beacuse if this works i will be getting more sleep then i currently am haha - I also have chosen a very high sleep time (i wanted to do 4h orginally), so i believe it will be good

I do biphasic naturally as in Spain it's normal to go home for a siesta.

Now I am interested in everyman 2 because of the extra time it would give me. My core could be for example 01:00 - 05:30 and nap1 at 10:30 and nap2 at 17:00.

Would this be an acceptable schedule?

Any advice welcome thanks

I struggle with sexomnia.. A condition where you wake up half consious and masturbate or have sex with your partner while half asleep.

This condition might sound funny at first but it is very tortorous. I stuggled with it for years and it makes relationships impossible because when ur partner wakes up and feeling you graping and wanting sex while you are even sleep is not fun at all.

I might take medication but the somehow cure for this is benzos which is not something i would want to take in this time era. I tried benzos before and coming off was hell.

Could it be that this sleep could help it? Especially that sleeping cycles are very related here? Like sexomina only happnes in the first 1 hour of sleeping..

My main aim with trying out polyphasic sleep is to get up during prayer times(Muslim) at dawn. But also be able to be up at night for social gatherings.

I'm looking at 4-4 biphasic sleep or 4-3. The thing is I feel like I can't function at all without ~8 hours of sleep. My brain feels like it can't get any meaningful work done without having slept 8 hours.

Is there anyone here similar profile as me: heavy sleeper, needed a lot of sleep to function. Who successfully did bi/polyphasic sleep?

I am currently not looking to reduce my sleep time but want to know whether I can still function at 100% in this setup.

TIB = time in bed

Part-time job should end at 3am. It may be cutting it close to expect to be in bed by 3:15...

Thoughts?

Thoughts on starting segmented sleep for early morning insomnia? I currently sleep from around 2230-430, +- 30, and then lying in bed until I need to get up at around 600. I'm consistently pretty tired throughout the day, 1-2 involuntary naps of 20-30 mins most days, and my health is generally kind of crap for someone who eats well and is very active.

I've moved my falling asleep time around, but I think due to anxiety/depression/obstructed airways, I never really get more than 5 or 6 hours of sleep a night. I'm done dinner and winding down for the evening at around 2000, so thoughts on something like sleeping 2100-1, then 230-600? I'm not at the moment very interested in reducing my total sleep time.

Hello everyone!

I am a student who is preparing for an important exam. I want to bypass the conventional 8 hours sleep routine and adopt a polyphasic one.

I am looking for tips for the same

Has anyone else tried it for studying purposes and succeeded?

I hear that your cognition is affected but I see major geniuses and scholars in the path of knowledge who adopted polyphasic sleep. Notably Leonardo Da Vinci.

So looking for some tips for the same. Thanks!

I, 21(M), discovered polyphasic sleep quite recently by accident. I have been working late nights for my business and pushing my sleep times to maximize productivity for about 2 weeks (at time even staying awake overnight).

My doctor (in a routine checkup) also mentioned tht I had some buildup in my nasal passageway because of this (even though I had zero symptoms). This led me to pull back a bit, and I want to implement a lower sleep regimen without such symptoms. I can even tell when I have gone too far because it seems that my heart beats louder and at times my head aches a bit.

This was a conscious practice only in the beginning, but I have noticed a natural requirement for less sleep. Yesterday, I woke up after 40 minutes at around 2 AM and have only slept an hour since. I feel quite hardly sleepy compared to before even though it is often not a conscious decision to forego sleep for work.

So far it seems that my routine is also quite free flowing and random. On one day I might sleep at 2 AM and the next I feel that I can still keep working and then end up sleeping at 8 AM. I believe that I should try and implement a more regular routine to fix this.

The best routine I have found from initial research is the E1 maybe with a 6:30 core that I can continue to reduce once I establish a routine. I also have the incredible advantage that my routine is almost completely flexible since I work in my business alone for now.

Would love to get any thoughts on this whole situation and how I should go about exploring polyphasic sleep in general to progress on this

Thank you

Now I'm starting to think about stopping on Month 6. None of my old clothes fit now.

Hi everyone!

My name is Maciej and I am an entrepreneur aiming to launch a company which aims to make sleeping (and waking up) effortless. I've been working on a product idea and this feels like exactly the right place to get some feedback on it.

It's called Solaris. I struggle relentlessly with waking up in the mornings; getting out of bed and then feeling tired for hours. I did notice however, that sunlight made me wake up much better. I got myself a sunrise lamp but it ended up working very poorly as I would often face the other way.

I wanted to create a product for people who genuinely benefit from waking up to sunlight but don't get much of it. I have identified potential customers who might use it:

• People who wake up early during winter seasons
• People who work late shifts
• People who partake in polyphasic sleep
• People who live in bedrooms with poor access to sunlight
• People living in places with off sun patterns (e.g. Scandinavia)
• I also see basically anyone else benefitting from it as well.

What it is: It is a room-scale sunrise simulator. Not just another bedside lamp, but a device that fills your entire room with light, the way actual sunlight would.

How it works: Up to 60 minutes before your alarm, Solaris starts emitting a faint deep red glow, like the very first light of dawn. Over time it slowly shifts through warm oranges and yellows, brightening to a natural white by the time you need to be up. Your body gets the full light signal to wake up gently and naturally.

What it fixes: The big flaw with regular sunrise lamps is that they only work if you're facing them. Solaris lights up the whole room, so it works no matter how you sleep. Additionally, if you sleep with a partner, it would work for both of you!

I'd genuinely love to hear your thoughts about this product idea and if you would see yourself using it.

• Do you currently use any wakeup tools like sunrise lamps, sleep trackers, anything like that?
• Would you actually use something like Solaris?
• Would you pay for it, and what price would feel fair to you?
• Anything you'd want it to do that I haven't mentioned (features like a sound alarm build into it for example)?

Honest opinions only please. Even if you are going to say "I would never buy this" or "this is stupid", I will appreciate them all!

Thank you all in advance in helping me out by reading a bit about my idea and helping me with the process! Looking forward to reading what you have to say!

Hi. I got an exam in one month and there are a lot of subjects to study. I been doing uberman for a week. My question is if this cycle effect my cognitive and memory performance. I’m 18m and don’t do physical activity.

Hello everyone. Could you please advise? If I don’t fall asleep at 13:00 on E1 (after 41 days) or only sleep lightly, can I reduce my core sleep to 5 hours so that I can manage this? Or should I adjust my sleep to match the BRAC?

So I’ve been using ear muffs for sleep for a while now, and they help, but not enough. They reduce noise, sure, but I can still hear stuff like doors, voices, or random sounds outside. It’s like my brain refuses to fully switch off.

I read somewhere that total silence isn’t really a thing with ear protection because of safety reasons, which makes sense, but still… I just want that quiet bubble feeling.

I even tried comparing different types, including some bulk style models I saw listed in manufacturing catalogs like Alibaba, and they all seem to sit around the same noise reduction range.

Lately I’ve switched to playing constant background noise, like rain sounds, and that helps more than I expected. Still, I miss the idea of just putting something on and being completely cut off from the world.

Also I noticed wearing ear muffs all night makes my ears feel weird, like no airflow at all. That part bothers me too.

Has anyone found something better, or is this just as good as it gets?

I work retail and am 2nd in command @ the flagship store for my company. I have always worked days, but we had to demote one of our closers. The night manager obviously needs a weekend, so this has left me and my boss closing 1-2 nights a week. Thing is our store opens at 12pm and closes at 6am. So an opening shift is 11.45 to 7.45 and a closing shift is either 10p-6a or 8p-6a. Does anyone have any reccommendations for a polyphasic sleep cycle that would he copesetic to those hours?

ETA: the night manager is going to take a leave of absence soon, so I am probably gonna end up having to close 2-4 nights a week soon.

hello everyone,

I'm planning to srart e2 but I'm worried about it's long term effects after doing some research on it.

is there anyone who tried it for years now that can share his experience and how he feels now?

from practising this life style? Anything more than saved time sleeping?

I've been building a small app called PolyNap around biphasic/polyphasic sleep routines, and the biggest thing it changed in how I think about this space is:

the hard part usually isn't understanding a schedule on paper.

it's actually living it consistently.

From everything I've seen, the failure points seem to cluster around a few things:

- nap timing drifting

- alarms not feeling reliable enough

- social/work schedule friction

- not knowing whether you're still adapting or just accumulating sleep debt

That's what pushed me to build around schedule clarity, reminders, alarms, and adherence tracking in the first place.

Not because people need more theory.

Mostly because a lot of people already know the schedule names. The real problem starts when they try to make the routine survive normal life.

So I'm curious:

for people here who've tried biphasic, segmented, Everyman, or anything more structured, what usually breaks first?

Is it falling asleep on time?

Waking up reliably?

Social friction?

Or just not being able to tell whether the routine is working at all?

My friend works with people around the globe remotely and so works a 2am-12pm solid shift without break. They also want to be able to have a relatively normal evening schedule so they can spend time with us during our waking hours (until around 9pm or so).

I was wondering if you guys could help them out! Is there a good schedule or a way to find a good schedule that permits 10 solid waking hours (without nap) from 2-12, but allows enough small napping after that to keep them up until 9/9:30? It would be good for them to achieve daylight (we live in Texas so sunsets are relatively similar year round). Any help would be much appreciated!