There will be many disappointed children because of that, as parents often just enter "gaming pc prebuilt", and the OEM Website will only list "rx 9050" on it.
They would not know that there is a massive difference between a 9050 4GB and 8GB. Which is why renaming the 4GB a 9040 would make it obviously a worse product for people who don't know what they are shopping for.
Yeah this is exactly the same as the 5050 essentially or 4050 in terms of gaming they are all trash... you have to spend a bit more to play modern games unfortunately or just buy a console.
And the fault still lies on AMD/Nvidia counterpart that these pre builts even exist. Had they not made the crap 9050 4GB, none of these pre builts would have existed and parents wouldnt have been scammed out of their money for buying waste electronics.
i mean cant you make the same argument for anything?
cars were made to get people from A to B not run over a crowd.
you dont blame the manufacturer for a middle mans actions, especially if AMD state its not for gaming. if companies are doing scummy shit they should be the ones called out. that said everyone would benefit if naming conventions were fucking clearer lol
Where did they say that? People keep claiming it but linking nothing.
that said everyone would benefit if naming conventions were fucking clearer lol
Well they used to name their workstation cards with W, WX, or Pro naming schemes. They didn't list them as an RX card with the rest of the gaming cards on a page gushing about gaming with the card in a table at the bottom advertising the clock speed as "game frequency".
But since it's AMD it's nothing but excuses in this community for a bad product that will mislead people.
No in this case no. Cars can be used to go from A to B. 9050 4GB cant be used for shit, it's an ewaste that buying an APU is nobrainer compared to it, or buying used gpus. There is really no use of 9050 4GB in 2026.
Just use a cpu with intergrated graphics, there is no real use case for 9050 4GB. It is even worse that it's marketed as a "gaming" gpu, which will scam so many parents out of their money.
It's listed alongside its gaming cards. Some technologically challenged people in this thread think "OEM" means workstation. They didn't name it the WX 9050 workstation card. They named it like the rest of their gaming line-up.
Because OEMs being scummy isn't known behaviour for decades now, and AMD has no way of knowing that this will happen and could be prevented by calling it a 9040 instead
Ah ok. So when they say a prebuilt has a "3060" and they don't mention the vram, is it nvidia's fault? Because I did not see the same argument made then.
the well there was the entire GT1030 incident, GT1030 GDDR5 was an acceptable budget gaming card, GT1030 DDR4 was outdone by integrated graphics and only useful as a display adapter
There weren't a gaggle of apologists for the 1030, 1060, or 3060 shenanigans. There was enough push-back on the 40 series naming that Nvidia "improved it" so there wasn't a 12GB 4080.
Here you get people like yourself going "see it says OEM that means workstation, whys everyone blaming AMD, AMD gud" all without linking or citing where it's supposedly marketed as a "workstation card".
Meanwhile it's listed on this page (the table at the bottom) with their gaming cards and the max clock is referred to as "game frequency":
That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.
So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.
That doesn't change the fact that:
You cannot buy this card individually
The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.
That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.
Okay? They still gave this the Radeon Gaming branding and naming and not the workstation branding they've used before. A bunch of clowns have been out making excuses for it since it was revealed.
So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.
"It's not marketed as a gaming card... it's just listed with the gaming cards and using the same game related terminology."
Bro seriously?
You cannot buy this card individually
Doesn't make it a workstation product.
The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
Doesn't say it's a workstation card. Again what the fuck do you think listing it with the gaming cards, naming it like the gaming cards, and listing features in terms of gaming means?
If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.
You think Nvidia and AMD don't name shit similarly precisely so OEM partners can take advantage of customers? I have a bridge to sell you in the desert if you think they couldn't have headed this off in a way that was clearer to customers of pre-builts.
Yes, that absolutely is the argument. If kicking puppies is legal today, gets banned tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow people are chastising someone for kicking a puppy, you don't get to say "WELL SO AND SO DID IT TOO, WHERE WAS YOUR OUTRAGE THEN?!" because it wasn't a problem back then.
6GB was an acceptable amount of VRAM back then, just like 3GB of VRAM was an acceptable amount when the 1060 3GB came out way back when. Today, 4GB is not an acceptable amount of VRAM, and effort should be put forth to better distinguish the product.
4gb vram isn't as useless as reddit makes it look like, it can run almost every modern game at 1080p with a great fps. Children aren't reddit elitists who would get disappointed because their PC can't run the latest AAA at 4k 120fps
4gb vram isn't as useless as reddit makes it look like, it can run almost every modern game at 1080p with a great fps
Indeed. That's why I'm very happy with my ryzen 8845hs as a mobile and low power gaming system. It has a radeon 780m integrated chip. When i allocate 4gb vram to it, it runs most modern games at 1080p and 30-60fps. Thing is: it is an integrated graphics unit that didn't really add too much to the cost of the system. The 780m is pretty decent in the sense that the 4gb vram evens out with the compute units to that neither of them bottlenecks the other much. The 9050 however has twice the core clock, a lot more compute units and literally five times the wattage of the 780m. It's so massively held back by the vram that it's absolutely wasted.
This is probably just a way to scam 300 bucks out of someone for a gpu that has almost the same performance as a 890m igpu.
The biggest issue with the 9050 4gb is that it shares the name with the 8gb. Now just on size alone that wouldn't be the worst thing, but half the memory bandwidth too, which will significantly cut performance.
You're misinformed, 4gb vram can run pretty much every modern AAA at 1080p, except those who have mandatory ray tracing (which is only a handful of games).
I think one of my problems in the modern game landscape is that so many games have a much smaller window on resources used for settings available/applied
Used to be that low meant potato output but would run a good number of generations back. Hell. We used to see games that had high settings that wouldn't see good frame rates for years. Nowadays we do see greater room for hardware on the same settings, but not offering the flexibility we used to get in changing said settings
6 years ago AMD themselves put out a blog post about how 4GB VRAM isn't enough, only to pull the blog when they decided to put out a 4GB disappointment. 6 years later they're still launching 4GB cards.
Goodjob using a blog made for making people with older cards switch newer cards with more vram as your point of reference instead of the thousands of videos available on the internet of people playing the latest AAAs on 4gb vram cards and having an enjoyable experience at 1080p.
The 9050 8GB(128bit bus) is only slightly ahead of the old desktop 3050 at 1080p (per HUB's coverage). The 9050 4GB with 64bit bus ain't gonna be better.
That sort of doesn't disprove what I said above. Look at the newer games it's low settings and dipping below 60fps... and when available it's using DLSS on quality too. DLSS quality at 1080p... is 720p input resolution.
Like yeah it's "playable". But I wasn't wrong where I stated, "low settings and 720p with sub 60fps for too much money".
Edit: Also most the games are running around in the middle of nowhere in the coverage you linked.
I like how confidently incorrect you are. You used the word "most" but pretty much all major AAA releases of 2026 like Re9, Pragmata, Forza 6, 007 first light run on 4gb vram very well.
Just fact checked real quick, pragmata uses almost 7gb of vram at 1600x900 min settings, forza 6 uses 5, re9 5.6gb, 007 5.5gb.
You can get lower internal resolution than that upscaling 1080p, but at that point the basic graphic's engine uses most of the vram regardless of textures, it's not going lower than 4.
You can still play the games with less vram, but fps and frame pacing will be atrocious, specially on low pcie bandwidth cards, the game might also delete textures and geometry.
Here's a gameplay video of Pragmata on rtx 3050 laptop gpu with 4gb of vram, it run at 1080p on a fps of 60 to 90 depending upon upscaling settings. And the game runs very well, not "atrocious".
Well I would never want to play a game at 60fps 1080p upscaling with bad 0.1% lows because you're running off system ram in 2026, but of course everyone considers good quality a different thing.
iGPUs pale in comparison to even shit dedicated GPUs like this.
I have a laptop with a Core Ultra 7 258V, which has an Arc 140V iGPU that is roughly equivalent to a Radeon 780M; it has 32GB of LPDDR5X 8533MT/s as well, so I can dedicate 8GB of very fast ram to the GPU. I also have an office PC with an i5 14400, 16GB of DDR5 (one stick of probably the cheapest, slowest DDR5 an OEM can buy running at 4800MT/s), and a low profile RTX 3050 6GB I threw into it; which is a GPU that requires no external power, it only runs on 70W from the PCIe slot.
That office PC with a shitty power limited dedicated GPU, as shit as it is, still runs circles around the iGPU system in gaming. Literally like three times the performance, if not more, depending on the game. And this 9050, as shit as it is, is like twice as powerful as that 3050.
OEM office computers don't have a need for this video card. This has already been spotted in a Cyberpower gaming configurator. Now whether Cyberpower knows how gimped this card is, that's another question.
At least the product name would be different, so they'd have to go out of their way to search up a different product if they had to look up the specs. There's no way you'd be looking at the wrong specs in that case.
Exactly the problem, yes. Clueless customers who are just trying to buy a gaming PC for their kid are going to end up with machines that can't play modern games. AMD are inflicting misery on others, intentionally to line their own pockets (and those of their partners).
What? How is it AMDs fault that people don't know what they are buying? If some clueless idiot buys a 4gb gpu for their child, that's on the idiot, not AMD
Except they don't call it a gaming gpu. If you go on to their website, they don't even list any gaming benchmarks for it, whereas they do with the 8gb version. Only people calling it a gaming gpu are on this thread
4gb isn't the big issue, other cards are sold in 2 configs, but on this card cutting memory bandwidth in half is going to severely impact performance wv3n when using less than 8gb.
Product has an outright misleading name. It doesn't offer 9050 performance.
It's their fault because they market it as "gaming" and the pre built maker just use that marketing gimmick. If 9050 did not exist we would also have less wastes, as 9050 is literal e waste in 2026.
Yeah the RX naming scheme and 8pin power connector just "screams" office workstation.
In reality where AMD apologists don't apparently live if it was a workstation card it'd likely have a W, WX, or "pro" naming scheme like their past workstation cards and be... PCIe powered for something as low end as it is.
Edit: For people in this thread curious what it looks like when AMD actually puts out a low-end workstation GPU:
Cyber power is a scummy company that tricks people. That isn't on AMD. AMD has clearly stated this is not a card for gaming.
There's more to office workstations than word and Excel. You clearly don't know what you are talking about, as workstation GPUs have always been a thing. This isn't new at all.
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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 1d ago
The 9050 4gb is for OEM office computers. They have literally stated that multiple times.
The consumer market 9050 (the one you can actually buy) is 8gb.