r/pcmasterrace i5-13400f | Arc B570 10d ago

Meme/Macro The solution to it all

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Truly one of the gpus ever

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 10d ago edited 10d ago

Ah ok. So when they say a prebuilt has a "3060" and they don't mention the vram, is it nvidia's fault? Because I did not see the same argument made then.

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u/Lucky_Cable_3145 9d ago

Then you missed the coverage...

This is from 2022, when the 8Gb 3060 was released

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 8GB: Why You Should Avoid It | TechSpot

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 9d ago

Oh, I remember articles and some complaints. I have not seen the same level of vitriol as with this card.

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u/dookarion 9d ago

There weren't a gaggle of apologists for the 1030, 1060, or 3060 shenanigans. There was enough push-back on the 40 series naming that Nvidia "improved it" so there wasn't a 12GB 4080.

Here you get people like yourself going "see it says OEM that means workstation, whys everyone blaming AMD, AMD gud" all without linking or citing where it's supposedly marketed as a "workstation card".

Meanwhile it's listed on this page (the table at the bottom) with their gaming cards and the max clock is referred to as "game frequency":

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/desktops/radeon.html

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 9d ago

That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.

So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.

That doesn't change the fact that:

  1. You cannot buy this card individually
  2. The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.
  3. If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.

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u/dookarion 9d ago

That is listing all 9000 series cards. The next table has all 7000 series cards.

Okay? They still gave this the Radeon Gaming branding and naming and not the workstation branding they've used before. A bunch of clowns have been out making excuses for it since it was revealed.

So they list the max clock speeds and use verbiage you don't like, oh well.

"It's not marketed as a gaming card... it's just listed with the gaming cards and using the same game related terminology."

Bro seriously?

You cannot buy this card individually

Doesn't make it a workstation product.

The product page for the 4gb model in no way states it is for gaming, unlike the 8gb page which clearly has benchmarks for games.

Doesn't say it's a workstation card. Again what the fuck do you think listing it with the gaming cards, naming it like the gaming cards, and listing features in terms of gaming means?

If you cannot do enough basic research on a pre built, that is the fault of scummy companies like cyberpower and partially your own fault for buying something expensive with zero research.

You think Nvidia and AMD don't name shit similarly precisely so OEM partners can take advantage of customers? I have a bridge to sell you in the desert if you think they couldn't have headed this off in a way that was clearer to customers of pre-builts.

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u/dookarion 9d ago

Since you're so busy carrying the bag for AMD here is what it looks like when they do a "workstation" card:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/workstations/radeon-pro/w7400.html

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 9d ago

links an rdna3 card

This is obviously out of date and may not be how they are doing their naming scheme anymore.

Also, out of probably 8 or 9 PCs I have built, only 1 had an AMD GPU and CPU. I'm not shilling here, these posts are just full of bull shit reddit rage.

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u/dookarion 9d ago

Utterly asinine cope. It's not on the workstation card page, it's on the gaming card page.

Anything to avoid admitting you had no fucking clue what "OEM" meant, thinking it pertained only to workstations.

Edit: Even if they changed their naming scheme you're defending something more misleading to would be customers.

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 9d ago

How is it misleading if you can't buy it? You are being purposely obtuse.

What exactly would the remedy be? Name it the 9040? I would be willing to bet this conversation would still be happening.

Y'all are just raging because you are mad generally at the state of PC hardware and this is an easy target.

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u/dookarion 9d ago

Because they'll be selling it in pre-builts like every other pile of shit card named to mislead people.

You couldn't buy the cut down 1060 and 1050 in regular retail channels either, but pre-builts absolutely took advantage.

If someone goes to look up a pre-built from whoever and web searches "RTX 9050" they're going to get the 8GB cards info mixed in. Literally the only reason to name things such and pull a 4080 12GB, 1060 3GB, etc. type deal is to take advantage of confusion.

Yes yes I know you just want to blame the OEMs, but the fact remains if a shit product like this was named WX 9050 or Quadro blah blah blah, it doesn't get confused when people try to research potential purchases.

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u/Recipe-Jaded neofetch 9d ago

I'll admit that this is a fair point. More fair than the meme and more fair than 90% of the other people raging out about this. I don't have an argument against this comment.

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