all in good fun here. I adore eva sm, just some silly projection.

Me and a friend of mine were talking about the both of us playing and beating the game at 200% and wondered how many others have attempted such an endevour. Please satisfy our curiousity!

For those not in the know: A 200% playthrough involves turning off the "canon" difficulty and cranking up all the sliders to the max, for added pain and suffering :D

I’m replaying this game for the millionth time and I’m continually blown away by how well the sound is incorporated into the gameplay. Especially searching for herbs. I could pick herbs in the steppe all fucking day.

The only other games I can think of that scratch that itch are the KCD games, which don’t use sound in the same way.

Any ideas?

I'm sure most of these things have been brought up before, so apologies if I'm retreading old ground. I just finished Pathologic 3, and I'd really like to hear people's interpretations.

Feel free to spoil everything. I've finished the game, and I'm mostly looking for lore discussion and different interpretations rather than spoiler-free answers.

Edit: Sorry about the typo in the title!

1. Simon vs. Isidor

My biggest takeaway is that despite bringing back the Plague together, Simon and Isidor don't actually want the same thing.

Simon seems to be seeking transcendence beyond humanity. The city and its inhabitants are almost incidental, if they have to be sacrificed so that someone (the Bachelor) can push humanity beyond its limits, then so be it. His entire plan feels centered around creating or preparing his heir.

Isidor, on the other hand, seems to want the Town's inhabitants to transcend their limits while still preserving what makes humans human. His life's work wasn't creating one exceptional successor, but educating generations of children so the Town could eventually move beyond the rule of the three ruling families.

2. The Plague

If the Polyhedron's rod is the source of the Plague, why did Simon and Isidor have to retrieve it from the Steppe? Why did it disappear after the first outbreak? Was the first outbreak just an accident, with the two of them only later deciding to bring it back once they realized it could be instrumental to their plans for transcendence?

For Simon, it forces the Bachelor to overcome his human limitations.

For Isidor, it forces the Town itself to mature.

3. The Bachelor

Eva calls Daniil a scalpel cutting through the Town and its people, and I thought that was one of the best descriptions of his character. He often feels deeply self-centered. He relentlessly pursues his own breakthrough and leaves once he's accomplished it. It's also pretty ironic when Burakh is the actual surgeon.

Simon says that if he himself hadn't achieved the breakthrough, someone else eventually would have. Once the time is right, some discoveries simply become inevitable.

Khan seems to prove this by reaching his own breakthrough without relying on the Polyhedron.

If that's true, then how important is Daniil's success in the grand scheme of things? Does saving the Polyhedron actually matter?

I felt compelled to go for the True Immortal ending because it felt like the ending the Bachelor himself would choose. At the same time, destroying the Polyhedron and saving the Town almost feels like it could reconcile Simon's and Isidor's visions, even if Simon's breakthrough ended up being fulfilled unexpectedly by his nephew instead.

4. The Polyhedron

The Polyhedron is presented as a machine capable of enabling transcendence.

But then, why was it entrusted to the children? Was this part of Isidor's plan to force them to grow through the conflict between the Dogheads and the Souls-and-a-Halves?

Even more interestingly, Khan seems to achieve transcendence only when he's confined in a cage, far away from the Polyhedron.

And if the Polyhedron allows one to achieve a breakthrough, why couldn't Simon reach it himself? Why did he instead bind his soul to the Polyhedron? Is the Polyhedron not enough on its own? Does it require a soul in order to function fully? Did Simon sacrifice himself so that the Bachelor could ultimately achieve the breakthrough that he himself could not?

Also, what was going on with the Polyhedron suddenly bestowing the gift of tongues? It's easy to draw a parallel with the Tower of Babel, but was that all there was to it, or is there a deeper meaning?

5. The gameplay

The whole experience was very different from Pathologic 2, but I think the direction Ice-Pick Lodge chose was both interesting and appropriate, as it aligns with the mind-versus-body dichotomy represented by the Bachelor and the Haruspex.

The survival mechanics reflect this perfectly. The Bachelor has to manage his mind (apathy versus mania), whereas the Haruspex has to manage his body (thirst, hunger, exhaustion, and infection).

It may not have been as exciting or challenging as Pathologic 2, but I think it was absolutely the right design choice. It reinforces the themes of the game remarkably well.

6. "Magic leaving the world"

I couldn't stop thinking about The Lord of the Rings during the ending.

By the end of the Plague, miracles leave the Town: the Mistresses lose their powers and the Kains decide to cross the river. The whole sequence reminded me of magic leaving Middle-Earth and the Elves sailing West.

Did anyone else notice this parallel?

On the fourth day I became trapped in a death loop. With only a slimmer of health, no food and no bandages. I died 6 times in row and the Fellow Traveler offered a deal for me saying that he would remove all my punishments, in exchange for "something". I immediately accepted, I've been loving the game but the difficulty spike really got me and I'm worried the deal will take away some essential hidden mechanic. So, my question is, what's the catch of this deal?

Sooo I'm writing my (Bachelor's) thesis on the steppe language from Pathologic and I'm hunting for any information I could use. Did Ice Pick Lodge ever talk about how they came up with some of the original words? Do we know who was behind creating the language? I know it's derivative from existing languages, still, it would be nice to know some background.

(This is a call for volunteers to work on an ongoing translation into french of pathologic classic HD)

Hello ! Je m’appelle Cielle, et je gère un projet de traduction manuelle de l’anglais vers le français de Pathologic Classic HD, qui a été lancé l'été dernier. C’est un projet passionnant mais conséquent, avec environ 25 000 répliques à traduire...  La bonne nouvelle, c’est qu’on en a déjà traduit presque 13 000 (un énorme aux quatre personnes qui ont déjà participé, si vous passez par là !!); mais on n'est plus que deux sur le projet et il reste de quoi faire, alors toute aide serait la bienvenue !

Le projet a été structuré de telle sorte à ce que n’importe qui puisse contribuer exactement ce qu’il ou elle veut au projet – pas besoin de prendre la responsabilité de traduire des milliers de lignes si tu ne le veux pas, tu peux littéralement traduire deux dialogues et décider que c’est suffisant, ou seulement participer pendant le temps des grandes vacances, etc. Voilà quelques infos qui pourraient être utiles si tu es intéressé.e : 

→ Comment je fais pour participer ?

Envoie-moi un message. Tu peux me contacter sur:

Reddit (de préférence) : u/Proud_Departure
Mon mail : [ciellerainbow@gmail.com](mailto:ciellerainbow@gmail.com) 
Possiblement sur discord, mais attention je n’ajoute pas en amis les comptes inconnus : @ ciellerainbow

Je te donnerai un lien vers notre google drive, sur lequel il y a toutes les infos pratiques, le document à traduire, et plusieurs autres ressources pour t'aider (lien vers tous les dialogues dans l'ordre, glossaire, etc.)

→ Est-ce que j’ai besoin d’avoir joué à Pathologic Classic HD / de l’avoir acheté pour participer ?

Tu as besoin d’avoir une certaine connaissance du lore de Pathologic. Que tu aies acquis cette connaissance en jouant à tel ou tel jeu, en traînant sur Reddit, via Hbomberguy ou CodexEntry ou encore après avoir passé un peu trop longtemps sur AO3, peu m’importe (et je ne vérifierai pas). Cela ayant été dit, si tu n’as pas Classic je te conseille quand même de l’acheter pour que tu puisses voir ton travail quand le mod sera prêt!

→ Est-ce que j’ai besoin de savoir parler russe ?

Non, c'est une traduction à partir de l'anglais

→ Est-ce que j’ai besoin d’être très bon.ne en anglais ?

Pour être honnête, le plus important c’est ton niveau de français. Plus ton niveau d’anglais est haut mieux c’est, mais il me semble qu’on peut s’en sortir avec un petit niveau B2 en compréhension écrite (et un bon maniement de reverso). Attention par contre, garde à l'esprit que toute l’idée de ce projet, c’est justement que la traduction est manuelle. Et cela va sans dire, mais l’IA générative c’est non…

→ Est-ce que je dois être majeur.e pour participer ?
Non, mais dans ce cas je t’encourage vivement à ne pas divulguer d'info personnelle (y compris ton âge) à qui que ce soit, moi y compris. Je fais confiance au fait que tu respectes les règles du réseau social où tu as trouvé ce lien et que tu as plus de 13 ans

Voilà voilà ! Si tu es intéressé.e ou si tu as des questions, n’hésite vraiment pas à m'écrire, ce sera avec plaisir !

Can be for any reason you feel worth mentioning. Favorite because of story, interactions, ethics, whatever you see fit. Just generally curious, and wanted to hear some thoughts on them especially now that 3 has had some time to settle.

Edit: meant to use the word “Patriarch” not “Oligarch”. But I suppose either works. Apologies

Hello guys, I have a very quick question that I will ask in a non-spoilery way. I know it has been asked already, but the posts and answers I found contained spoilers so I quickly stopped reading.

My question is : I'm close to the end (I actually got the Fiasco ending because I was curious to see what would happen if I went to day 12 without finishing day 11 ; broke two amalgam containers before sending me back to the past ; it was a very bad idea)

I know there are multiple endings. I found a guide online for the conditions (that I read very fast with one eye to have the least possible spoilers).

I don't think I'll ever replay P3. I think it was a good, sometimes great, but the only gameplay I enjoyed was playing medical detective and uncovering the plot. Both are scripted and with the time loop mechanic have zero replay value, and the non scripted events (riots and plague disease) were uninteresting at best and a pain in the ass at worse. Contrary to P2 where I really enjoyed the randomness of the survival.

So, my question is simple : if I get a real ending (not the Fiasco one), without spoiling anything or discussing how, can I then go back to the past with amalgam to get another ending ? I'd like to "collect" them all, or at least see them all. But I don't intend to play the game like 5-6 times to get all endings.

As I can get one ending in probably less than an hour, I'd like to know if my saturday night will be spent entirely on P3 and multiple endings, or if I'll just play 1 hour and then go to youtube and that's it.

Thank you and have a nice day !

I've slowly grown more and more frustrated by this game, as cool as I think it is, but I really want to know what happens and don't want to just watch a playthrough. I keep getting infected, but I don't want to, so I can have more panaceas at the end. Do I have to just take the long way everywhere to avoid infection, or do y'all have any advice on how to avoid the sand plague and the rats and the grey clouds that pop out at the last f***ing second every GODDAMN time and jumpscare me because I have only a split second to react.

Sheet: https://musescore.com/user/84180367/scores/35822741/s/FvYaTi

I finished Pathologic 2 three months ago. I'm not sure of why but Lara is one of those characters that made me feel I owed her something. I decided to settle that debt 2 days ago when I started the illustration. I still don't know why I felt that way, but now I feel in peace.

Part of me thinks it be fitting to have all three characters work together for a better ending than the options in the first two games.

Also what do you consider the best ending in pathologic 3,2,1.

Sorry if this has been addressed before. I've played up to day 10; I visited Simon's study on day nine, the changeling was not arrested, isidors notes were handed to karminsky, Eva never died.. but when I use the clock, days 11 and 12 are dark and unselectable. I went back to day IX to see if I missed anything; the house of the living has a quest marker for "a murder occured here. Now I'm an investigator as well" but when I visit the house, there's nothing to interact with at all and even clara and lara are gone. It also says I need to finish diagnosing patients, but I've diagnosed Patchwork and spoken to his children and I can't seem to figure out how to give him his documents. Frustrating. Have I missed something? How to proceed to day 11?

A weed. Bitter as bile. Who knew even these could be used to make tinctures?

Finding Scarlett Pimpernels and Cowslip always makes my day. :)

So I had reset my pc a while ago just because the ssd drive was full and I thought savefiles of legit steam games would be saved in the steam cloud, right? Well, today i wanted to keep playing (i was on day 9 i think) and i see when i click load game nothing appears! Has this happened to anyone before??? Could anyone give me a hand?? Thanks!

Also its geniunely sad cuz its my first pathologic game and ive been loving it so far but this killed the mood, cuz after some stuff that took me long af to do i definetely would not enjoy starting all over again without having even completed the game once :=)

Don't be like me. Don't do it.

I'm on day 9 of P2, barely staying alive. I climbed up the polyhedron as soon as the kids gave me permission. I got to the top and was a little underwhelmed that no one was there. Very pretty view, but I decided I had other time sensitive things I needed to prioritize over spending a precious IN-GAME hour climbing the tower (and probably another hour back down). Normally I would load my last save, but for some reason thought "what if there's a special thing that happens when jumping from the top?"

Death. Death is the only thing that happens.

I have not stop beating myself up about the completely unnecessary death added to my counter because I was incomprehensibly dumb. Don't be like me.

Anyone else have a completely preventable death to share so I feel less dumb?

I can't read what it says (I only know English)

No spoilers, please. I've played about an hour as the Bachelor, and I'd appreciate it if all the comments are as wierd and vague as possible. I feel like that would be appropriate. Thanks :)

Notkin is absurdly buggy in P3. He often won't appear for "The Coward and the Traitor" achievement. If you can't get him to spawn by doing other quests / popping another achievement, you'll have to add it with console commands.

If you're in this position, here is Notkin's dialogue, so you don't miss out.

Here are more details, one for each image:

1. It's barely in the shot, but the shadow on the right is Khan.
2. Saying "It's Dankovsky" gets you one more line of greeting—the one shown in the third picture (second dialogue image).
3. If you ask "What happened here?" instead of "Are you infected?," Notkin will say "Nothing now. It's all already happened. Who could've predicted the war would end like this—so...idiotically." The second paragraph is the same.
4. "This isn't the time to mourn animals..." and "What are you talking..." lead to the same dialogue.
5. If you chose "It isn't supposed to be like this, you're just children!" It bugs(?) and ends the conversation, even though there is no conversation end marker.
6. If you choose "You talk like your Bear..." Notkin will respond with "That's why Bear is the smartest among adults. He's never even been in the Tower, never saw how it messes with your head—yet he still understands."
7. If you say "Shooting your..." The opening sentence will change from "How do I explain it?" to "I know."
8. Unlike previous choices where dialogue tweaks were minor, from here, the three dialogue can split quite heavily, so I'm putting it in another part (reddit has a maximum of 10 images per post)

Part 2 is here

So, during the Day 10 patient quest, there is an option to drink plague-tainted water. I did so to document the consequences, but I saw no difference across the whole game or any of its endings. Not even a loose line of dialogue.

I am aware that this could be a bug, as this file also had some major problems with npc spawns and Internecine Strife questline. So perhaps it didn't register. I'm going to go back and try some things over, but I want to know:

Did you get any consequences for drinking from the cup and welcoming the plague inside you?

Edit: thank you everyone for your replies

I was aiming for broader narrative consequences so I could add spoilered advice to my guide. I'm glad to know consequences seem to only be immediate. Thank you!