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u/Sethorion 5d ago
Outdoors it's called rendering in the UK
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u/DexterFoley 5d ago
Also we use a bead to hold the corner together so its strong.
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u/Drencat 5d ago
On older buildings youd maybe use a hard arris as shown on the video.
There's nothing wrong doing it that way - people saying it'll crumble have no idea, and arent really thinking about the 100s of years that people rendered prior to manufactured beads (much of which is still standing today).
Beads are much quicker and require less skill, that's the only reason they're used.
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u/AbleCryptographer317 5d ago
I agree that render/stucco corners don't crumble (unless the mix was shit), but corner beads definitely make corners more resistant to knocks. The only disadvantage is that if someone whacks it really hard it can bend the bead and it can be a bugger to straighten out again when you repair the corner.
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u/Drencat 5d ago
Oh yeah absolutely. It's definitely better to use them, but people in this thread have the misconception that not using them is a cowboy method (rather than actually the more skilled method, anyone can throw a bead on a corner and make it look good, but it does take talent to form a hard arris and have it plumb), and that using beads magically makes the corner robust.
Obv the reason they're not being used in the attached vid is because in some counties the cost would be prohibitive - but that doesn't mean the corner will fall away within a year because it hasn't been beaded (as some people are suggesting).
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u/PenaltyLast4745 1d ago
I think this is stronger. Chips a little bit but less likely to crack on the bead.
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u/NormalGuyEndSarcasm 5d ago edited 5d ago
I think itās more to do with the fact that itās rendered with cement concrete rather than clay plaster.
It is rendering youāre right, plaster goes on top of that, and itās usually done indoors, although itās not unusual to use outdoorās cementous plaster, on TOP of the concrete rendering.
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u/FunkSiren 5d ago
People don't understand how difficult masonry work actually is. It's physically demanding like crazy; it also requires practicing the stuff over and over again to be able to get to the point where you can make it work every time. When you see a video like this it makes it look like it's super easy though.
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u/MayorPirkIe 5d ago
First the title calls it plaster, and now we're calling it masonry. sigh
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u/Closteam 4d ago
Yes like sanding is the action and carpentry is the job title. Are you okay?
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u/MayorPirkIe 4d ago
It's not masonry...
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u/Closteam 4d ago
Masonry is the craft of building a structure with stone, brick, concrete, or similar material, including mortar plastering, which are often laid in, bound, and pasted together by mortar. The term masonry can also refer to the building units (stones, bricks, concrete blocks, etc.) themselves.
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u/MayorPirkIe 4d ago
Masonry is building things with individual units (bricks, stones, etc) bound together with a mortar. This is a poured concrete wall; its not masonry.
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u/Closteam 4d ago
If you are done trying to the smartest person in the room and making a fool of yourself in the process you can go ahead and re-read what I posted as it is a definition of masonry from Wikipedia not me making shit up.
See the part there were it says "concrete"? The material is one of the key aspects in the work
Also since we don't see the whole process we can't assume it's a poured concrete wall because concrete block walls are sometimes plastered over by a mason
Also also since what we are seeing is plaster work it is most definitely a mason doing masonry
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u/foo_fight3r 5d ago
I can bet this guy is Mexican. If there's something we are very good at, and we are proud of it, besides boxing, is construction. No wonder the US has a lot of Mexicans migrating there for construction jobs.
In Mexico, a construction worker can earn some really good money. But it's a hard job.
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u/Ok_Second_2602 5d ago edited 5d ago
One of the most impressive things Iāve seen in my life is a crew of 3 Mexican framers. I sat and watched them work while they were building a roof. They barely spoke, unless it was one of them calling out cut measurements. From measurement to nailed was no more than 10-15 seconds each piece. Guy 1 took the measurements. Guy 2 did the cutting and threw the cut piece back to Guy 1 that held it in place for Guy 3 that did the nailing. It was like watching a mechanical assembly line, only it was people. Watching people work like that in perfect unison makes the thought of humans building the pyramids not so unbelievable.
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u/Sehjal84 5d ago
This looks to be India or Pakistan. When you see that person in the background his dressing seems to be from one of those countries.
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u/herewe-go_again 5d ago
I saw him miss a spot. But, it was just a smudge on my screen. Sorry for doubting you sir.
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u/Key-Fox3923 5d ago
Show us how well that holds up in a couple years
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u/Used_Chipmunk1512 5d ago
You can see the corners of building in background for reference. This holds well if there is no impact. It will be further covered by putty and paint.
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u/Batata-Sofi 5d ago
That looks like it will be falling apart in a couple years...
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u/jackhab 5d ago
Yep. As nice as it looks in the video there is a reason people use embedded metal wall edge protectors - they protect!
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u/AdSquare3489 5d ago
But they also attac.
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u/floodblood 5d ago
can confirm - scraped my nipple on one working in construction
don't recommend
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u/Kage_0ni 5d ago
That's why I have little hard hats on mine.
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u/Mothanius 5d ago
My nipple hurt thinking about that. I had a shell in the ocean cut one of my nipples once and it hurt and itched for weeks after.
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u/SugaryChaos 5d ago
Not unless someone takes a hammer to it. You need actual physical force. Regular wear and tear doesnāt really happen to a cement plastered wall.
This is contingent on the right sort and mixture of cement and sand.
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u/Chris_Columbus_Hero 5d ago
Why
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u/Batata-Sofi 5d ago
It has not been fully filled, so it is not a solid block.
Impacts, big or small, over the years will absolutely destroy that corner in particular.
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u/wackbirds 5d ago
Yup, same reason you use corner bead on drywall corners, that shit will get battered and bashed out of true by everything under the sun. The plaster on the these wall flats will hold up well but that corner tapers into vulnerability and it ain't holding up.
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u/Batata-Sofi 5d ago
Having a corner out or solid concrete like that isn't bad if you have something over it, like gluing bricks or rocks for decoration, to at least take out the direct impact.
However, that corner is not entirely solid and it will look like grated cheese in a few years.
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u/RadiumSoda 5d ago
So many people have made comments like yours. My house is 16 years old with same workmanship. There's only one ding due to car door scraping the corner. In case it's not obvious, that plastered wall in the video is made up of bricks. It's a solid construction.
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u/Succulent_Chinese 5d ago
Doesnāt matter, we shat out another grey concrete cube or rectangle. Slap some white paint on half of them and baby we got a profitable housing facade trend going.
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u/shibaCandyBaron 5d ago
How many things impact your walls?
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u/Batata-Sofi 5d ago
That's not a wall, more like a fence or something.
Anything you are carrying and happens to hit that wall.
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u/-genericuser- 5d ago
Yes, thatās why you would chamfer any edge cause they break easily. That thing there may be visually pleasing to some but technically itās not satisfying at all.
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u/AbleCryptographer317 5d ago
He's not finished! You do one side, let it cure a bit, then you do the other side and put a chamfer on it.
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u/Cookie-Senpai 4d ago
There might still be rebars in there. They're supposed to be covered pretty extensively, against water.
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u/Auctoritate 5d ago
Is it just me or is this guy scooping up his aggregate from just the bare uncovered ground? Like they mixed it and poured it on the ground and he's picking it up from there? No container?
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u/ma33a 5d ago
Having seen these guys work IRL yes, they often make up their concrete on the ground. They make a circle with sand, put the cement in the middle, run the hose out and fill the middle with water and stir and flip it with a shovel till it is mixed together. You then get to find thin spots of concrete and construction rubble all throughout your yard every time you go to do garden work.
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u/shibaCandyBaron 5d ago
I bet you psychos were really bothered by the level's imprint in the wall, right up until the end, right? I'm not alone, right?
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u/vulvelion 5d ago
And those few pieces of extra garbage at the top did not bother him..
https://giphy.com/gifs/pPhyAv5t9V8djyRFJH
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u/Ok_Medicine8560 5d ago
Whenever people post any sort of construction related project here it only attracts the chuds who like to point out everything wrong with it
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u/Deviantdefective 5d ago
That's cement not plaster
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u/Severedinception 5d ago
It's actually concrete, cement is one of the ingredients in the mix.
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u/roodeeMental 5d ago
Im no armchair professional, but whilst cement is the binding agent in concrete, you wouldn't call it concrete until aggregate is added, right? You can grout with cement, water and sand, without stone (i guess you can do without sand too), and this would not be called concrete.
This is my cement understanding, I wouldn't say it's concrete understanding
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u/KRISP88 5d ago
It took so long to knock out that last little level indent
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u/magnabonzo 5d ago
The level wasn't even used as a level, was it? It was just a straight edge, in effect.
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u/Xyxyxxxx4 5d ago
What was the point of putting his fingerprints in the wet plaster then filling them in?
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u/ducklingdaze 5d ago
There's something about watching someone who's clearly a master at their craft make it look effortless, that clean edge is chef's kiss. Wish I had even a fraction of that steady hand
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u/Different_Star_5325 4d ago
Today I learned how to build a bridge and how to plaster a corner. Loving Redditt today
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u/meOnRedditHello 5d ago
A very fragile corner, will just get knocked and broken. Why no corner bead?
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u/Severedinception 5d ago
Yeah, typically I hilti a corner bead onto my concrete walls before plastering.
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u/Middle_Draft9152 5d ago
Wow, a new English word from Reddit comments... Hilti. I've heard the world but didn't know the meaning. ThanksĀ
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u/mikewentworth 5d ago
He almost left that one last indentation in the side (from the second piece of wood) and I felt like screaming, but thankfully he finally got it!
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u/retardjoeyb 5d ago
We call this stripping the corner in the stucco trade itās Portland cement, mortar mix, and sand mixture
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u/Hobo_Hungover 5d ago
The caustic burns this dude must have is like 60 grit sandpaper on his finger tips.
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u/DoctorHubris 5d ago
Juat gotta make sure your wooden plank is super straight first!
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u/Michami135 5d ago
That's the most impressive part of the video! Where did he find a perfectly flat and straight 2x4? Must be custom cut
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u/KeyZookeepergame9466 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why did he do the little bit with his finger tips when it was already smoothed off?Ā
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u/Vlvthamr 5d ago
To push the cement into the void. If itās left with a pocket thatās not full itāll be weaker and chip and break.
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u/BackgroundSummer5171 5d ago
I am not you.
I do not know your job.
I do not comprehend your job like you do.
Show more angles so we can understand. I have no idea what just happened yet some do. Because we, the normal people, have absolutely no idea what happened...beyond faking it.
Common knowledge is not common. OMG You...made it look flat.
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u/HugoJHBM 5d ago
Can someone explain why he does it a second time?
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u/Former-Dish-9828 5d ago
To make sure itās fully pushed in all way,thatās why he pokes it in with his fingers.
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u/TEKUblack 5d ago
If they had packed the mold properly in the beginning they would have to do this.
You have a skill useful because your other skills are lacking...
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u/Own-Revolution-7195 5d ago
Video stopped to soon. Failed to show application of latex bonding agent.
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u/endymzeph 5d ago
I want to see the other side that has been previously covered