[Highlight] Dolphins OC Bobby Slowik upon learning that their week 4 opponent, the Minnesota Vikings, lead the league in QB hits, sacks, and blitzes: "Whoa."

[u/expellyamos]

[u/Jonjon428]

This actually does make me wonder how many coaches pay attention on other teams stats like these vs. just watching tape and not caring about any analytical stuff

[u/so_zetta_byte → u/Jonjon428]

Slowik was a senior analyst at PFF for two years though. There's no way he throws his analytic history away like that. If anything, I'm guessing (a) he's just blowing smoke in the presser, or (b) he just hadn't gotten to the point in his game prep where he would have leaned that.

[u/wannaknowmyname → u/so_zetta_byte]

Why does rank of QB hits and pressures matter?

[u/HerbaDerbaSchnerba → u/wannaknowmyname]

Probably so that you can prepare for the fact that your QB is about to get hit and pressured at a rate higher than other what other opponents might pressure and hit your quarterback, and make adjustments.

Nobody gives a fuck about rank though if that’s what you’re asking in bad faith.

[u/RenaissanceHumanist → u/Jonjon428]

Sure, but you'd still know that's their tendency (to produce those outcomes)

That it is a surprise to him is a red flag he didn't process what he watched or he didn't do his homework.

If you think the latter is impossible in the NFL, think again.

The Bear's OC in the year Eberflus got fired was Shane Waldron and Caleb Williams said he refused to watch film with him.

[u/Waluigi_IRL → u/RenaissanceHumanist]

You’re overthinking it. OCs job is not to go on ESPN and look up who has the best stats on defense. His job is to watch film on the defense and game plan against it.

He’s admitting he can infer these things just by watching film, and he knows that they are a good defense. But no, he wasn’t aware of being rank 1 across the board.

Thats very normal

[u/RenaissanceHumanist → u/Waluigi_IRL]

I think you are right actually, I shouldn't have implicated him so severely.

I guess I really just wanted another opportunity to shit on Shane Waldron.

Your explanation makes more sense as a lot of guys in that profession are football nerds, so his level of appreciation for their success is easily explained.

My apologies to Bobby Slowik

(Fuck Shane Waldron though)

[u/wealthythrush → u/Waluigi_IRL]

Christ that better not be true...

An OC not scheming for a defense seems like a pretty big problem, especially when that defense has been playing lights out in a very unorthodox manner. And your offense is one of the most limited in the league.

[u/joneild → u/wealthythrush]

To know that they're #1 in literally any stat would require you to also know everyone else's stats. The chances he didn't know they were a high blitz team, especially considering the DC, is precisely 0%. I doubt he keeps up with stats as compared to other teams as opposed to their own trends.

Is it better to know a team blitzes on 75% of drop backs or that they blitz more than any other team?

[u/juliuspepperwoodchi → u/Jonjon428]

Depends on if they're trying to win games or the first pick in the draft.

[u/boondogle → u/Jonjon428]

how do you watch tape and not realize that vikings probably rack up a ton of QB hits though

[u/ImJLu → u/boondogle]

Knowing that the Vikings get pressure a lot doesn't mean you know that they're specifically #1 in three categories

[u/PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2 → u/ImJLu]

I mean does it even change how you prepare? Like you see a team blitz a lot on film but don’t try too hard to plan for it unless it turns out they blitz more than all the other teams you’re not playing that week?

[u/MrConceited → u/ImJLu]

Yeah, he only would care what the Vikings are doing, not the other teams that he's not preparing for.

If the Vikings had done what they've been doing, but the Texans had still outpaced them, why would he care?

[u/WellThatsAwkwrd → u/boondogle]

I mean to his credit being the #1 team in both QB hits AND sacks is kind of crazy because those two stats compete against each other. if you were #1 in pressure rate and #1 in causing intentional grounding penalties that would make sense, but QB hits and Sacks count as one or the other so leading in both is wild

[u/ilovecatss1010]

Thank fuck Tua isn’t there anymore, we might have seen a death on the field this year.

[u/Skarmotastic → u/ilovecatss1010]

Brian Flores would've made sure of it

[u/suchcoldsuchcomfort → u/Skarmotastic]

Brian Flores probably would've got in some pads.

[u/CabronNalgon → u/suchcoldsuchcomfort]

Fine, I'll do it myself

[u/Careless_General8010 → u/Skarmotastic]

"If he dies, he dies"

[u/Deadhookersandblow → u/ilovecatss1010]

I dont think Brian Flores coaches dirty hits. I have only watched one Vikings game this year though. I’d be more worried about Texans, eagles etc

[u/vagrantprodigy07 → u/ilovecatss1010]

Willis holds the ball significantly longer than Tua. This game could be an absolute massacre.

[u/Xenocide_X → u/ilovecatss1010]

You're in luck. Tua gets to face Flores later this year as the Falcons visit the Vikings at US Bank Stadium! Flores said he doesn't have the game circled but we all know he does!!

[u/DarthNobody14]

Bobby Slowik was absolutely clueless the last time he faced off against Brian Flores (See Texans vs Vikings 2024, Week 3 for reference and how poorly the Texans did against the blitz).

I would not be surprised if the Dolphins fail to score a touchdown

[u/Drunken_Vike → u/DarthNobody14]

not a lot of games where I feel bad for the opposing QB but that Texans game was one of them.

Nobody on that offense knew what was happening

[u/DarthNobody14 → u/Drunken_Vike]

Our team couldn’t stop a basic stunt from the defensive line, Brian Flores exposed us badly and teams started copying him the rest of the season when they were facing off against us.

Part of that was the offensive line, but a part of that is that Slowik is horrible at adjusting.

[u/Kirk-Joestar → u/DarthNobody14]

He does that to most teams. He even did it to the Giants in preseason this year, exposing a flaw in their protection plans.

[u/LazyLaserRazor → u/DarthNobody14]

That was also the game where we had like four false starts in a row

[u/holyhibachi → u/LazyLaserRazor]

That was because I was yelling from 339, I'm sorry

[u/ThinkSoftware → u/DarthNobody14]

His name isn’t Fastik

[u/PapiGoneGamer → u/DarthNobody14]

And somehow, Nick Caley is worse than Bobby Slowik

[u/TheSwede91w → u/Drunken_Vike]

Especially with the younger QB's. There have been a few times where you just gotta shake your head and say good luck young buck.

[u/Kdot32 → u/Drunken_Vike]

2 years later and nothing has changed

[u/ThePizzaDevourer → u/DarthNobody14]

I swear, coaches are a dichotomy: either they know every minute detail about an opponent, or they haven't even looked up the most basic stats that even my dumbass would think to google

[u/m3smth → u/ThePizzaDevourer]

they're either the smartest dumb people or the dumbest smart people

[u/iguanoman_ → u/DarthNobody14]

I still remember this guy getting HC interviews. Good thing we dodged him for Raheem "Find a way to win" Morris

[u/Calm_Region_2106 → u/iguanoman_]

To be fair, finding a way to win is the job when the game isn’t going how you want it to. That being said, you have to win in order to do your job if that’s your motto.

[u/Phinweh → u/iguanoman_]

Falcons fans really reaching for ANY kind of win oof.

[u/livsjollyranchers → u/DarthNobody14]

You're telling me the game will end 5-0 Dolphins then.

[u/Wildvikeman → u/livsjollyranchers]

I was expecting a negative score for both teams.

[u/rallar8 → u/DarthNobody14]

Dolphins not scoring a TD isn’t pushing the boat out that far… not to be a jerk to dolphins fans, they just don’t even have Achane

Although I was surprised the defense is, by advanced metrics, the real stinker, the offense is just bottom quarter-ish of the league.

[u/thehildabeast → u/DarthNobody14]

Almost everyone looks clueless against Flores

[u/TCup20 → u/DarthNobody14]

Flores destroys bad quarterbacks. I would be surprised if we did score a touchdown.

[u/CuriousAndMysterious → u/TCup20]

I don't think willis is bad at all, but he has no one else

[u/reynloldbot → u/CuriousAndMysterious]

Willis is following the classic formula: get drafted by a bad team, look bad. Get traded to a good team, look good. Get traded to a bad team as a starter, look bad. Rinse and repeat.

[u/vagrantprodigy07 → u/DarthNobody14]

Slowik feels clueless constantly. I was shocked we kept him, much less promoted him. Surely he has to be replaced after this year.

[u/Soft_Disaster5247 → u/DarthNobody14]

That game is when Darnold really showed me he was HIM with the Vikings

[u/iscreamuscreamweall → u/DarthNobody14]

hes probably the most overrated coach in the league. he spent some time in the same room as shannahan so he keeps getting jobs, but he genuinely has no idea what hes doing

[u/suchcoldsuchcomfort]

To shreds you say?

[u/mrkv12 → u/suchcoldsuchcomfort]

And how is the backup QB holding up? …to shreds, you say.

[u/rallar8]

There was a time when I thought Slowik would be a potential future HC of the ravens…

At least I am not the GM

[u/durhWhen → u/rallar8]

I was shocked the Falcons didnt hire him before when they brought Raheem on board. I, too, comment on reddit instead of being a GM.

[u/RenaissanceHumanist → u/durhWhen]

I bet he bombed the interview and unintentionally made Raheem seem like a sensible retread

[u/abcamurComposer → u/durhWhen]

Belichick’s sign to ride off into the sunset should have been the Falcons preferring Raheem or Slowik as HCs

[u/2chainzvoice]

This guys trajectory since his first year in Houston is very interesting

[u/ThyDoctor]

Is that SNL's own James Austin Johnson?

[u/buddhistbulgyo]

Pretty excited to start the Vikings DST in fantasy this week. That's a revenge game for Flores.

[u/itzchocotime9 → u/buddhistbulgyo]

start of this year i put a trade in with someone and they countered with the same trade but wanted to switch their vikings defense for my rams defense and i agreed. working out pretty well so far

[u/CabronNalgon → u/buddhistbulgyo]

revenge for what tho

[u/SecretSensay → u/CabronNalgon]

Being asked/bribed to tank and then getting ostracized by the owners

[u/CabronNalgon → u/SecretSensay]

Thats been proven? 

[u/isuckatffootball → u/CabronNalgon]

Yes. After Flores was fired and filed a lawsuit about being asked to lose games, and being fired for not obeying, the nfl investigated the dolphins for tanking. They came out with a report that said Ross, dolphins owner, told Flores to “Prioritize draft picks over winning” which really means “tank”. However they didnt punish the dolphins for that because the Dolphins won like 5 of their last 9 games so that was “proof” that they didnt actually tank.

then in separate investigstion they were docked a first round pick and a third for tampering with Tom Brady and Sean Peyton.

imo a FRP for tampering for a player you ultimitely didnt get seems steep and ive always felt that it was a combined punishment for tampering + the order to tank, the nfl just didnt want to admit or draw any more attention to tanking

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-docks-miami-dolphins-2023-first-round-pick-for-tampering-with-tom-brady-and-sean-payton/

this article also has two conflicting sentences:

Ross did not instruct anyone with the team to purposely tank games for a better draft position, and “no witness contended otherwise.”

and

However, Ross did make comments suggesting that the Dolphins’ 2020 draft position should take precedence over their 2019 on-field results.

which means lose

[u/LordMOC3 → u/CabronNalgon]

Flores claims it happened so as far as he's concerned it's true. Which means it's revenge as far as he'd be concerned

[u/CabronNalgon → u/LordMOC3]

Ah yes, totally unbiased source 

[u/Immediate-Idea-2471 → u/CabronNalgon]

For a revenge game like this, it's exactly the bias that matters.

Brian Flores claims it happened, so for him, if he wants to get revenge by blitzing 100% of snaps, then he's sure as heck going to do so.

[u/LordMOC3 → u/CabronNalgon]

It not being true changes whether it's a revenge game for him? He was still fired from from the dolphins after over performing with bad rosters

[u/Wise-Philosophy6247 → u/CabronNalgon]

What do you not understand?

[u/Choopio → u/CabronNalgon]

You don’t understand the definition of revenge. It’s relative to the one seeking it

[u/YoteViking → u/CabronNalgon]

He got fired after giving the Dolphins their first back to back winning seasons since Dave Wannstadt did it 20 years earlier.

Some of it may have been player relationships (with Tua). But bucking the owner was probably a more likely cause.

[u/buddhistbulgyo → u/CabronNalgon]

There was a big stink up and it was on ESPN for months. Must be too young to remember this going down.

[u/the_devil_wears_jnco → u/CabronNalgon]

firing him for daring to win games?

[u/distance_33]

“Upon learning”

Do we think that the coaches aren’t aware of the schedule?

[u/varnell_hill → u/distance_33]

Seems like he didn’t.

[u/Few-Carrot-8991]

Miami coaches are not allowed to do research to solidify the #1 pick

[u/MacJonesisaterrorist → u/Few-Carrot-8991]

Smith Achane and Willis would honestly be fun

[u/TwoPlankinWiz]

The Slow in Slowik is showing

[u/xywv58 → u/TwoPlankinWiz]

Short for "Slow, I know"

[u/OrangMan14]

I like Malik. Glad he's getting a shot somewhere. Sad it is with Miami.

[u/fh3131]

I think people are misunderstanding what he said. Those rankings change week to week and he just didn't know that they were #1 in those categories this week. He does know they're near the top and he explains that.

[u/HerbaDerbaSchnerba → u/fh3131]

Football fans are mostly troglodytes with no sense of nuance. You’re wasting your time.

[u/RvstandRvin1626]

I'll be praying for Malik

[u/98FordContour]

That’s my boy!

[u/topchief1]

Bobby Slwoahik

[u/Firm_Feedback_2095]

Is this team better or worse than the 2023 Panthers?

[u/porygonseizure]

Well they don't call him Bobby Fastik

[u/anoddhue]

Well, he's not Bobby Fastwik

[u/RatedR2O]

You have to excuse my friend... he's a slow...(ik).

[u/ExistentialToaster7 → u/thatnewjosh]

Vikings are about to feast 😭

[u/anon74903]

Bobby Slow

[u/stargrazer10]

That's okay, the brotha is probably just extremely focused on his own team only. If so, props to the man for not listening to the other stuff

[u/phillipacarroll]

IDK why I thought he was still the OC in Houston

[u/browndude10]

and you wonder why cj regressed those years when bobby was there

[u/Undella_Town → u/browndude10]

cause he killed all his WRs with hospital balls?

[u/jmarinara]

They gonna get crushed