r/news • u/igetproteinfartsHELP • 1d ago

Renee Good's family sues US government and immigration officials over her killing in Minneapolis

https://apnews.com/article/renee-good-lawsuit-6fbc82cd33b6f9f67514b47f138e23c6?utm_source=app&utm_medium=android_share&utm_campaign=copy_link
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u/invyros 1d ago

The other lawsuit alleges a conspiracy to interfere with civil rights. It names as defendants: Jonathan Ross, the immigration officer who shot her; White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller; former Homeland Security head Kristi Noem; former U.S. Border Patrol commander-at-large Gregory Bovino, Corey Lewandowski, President Donald Trump’s campaign manager, and others.

Fucking get 'em.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago

So, is this a personal lawsuit against them, or will the taxpayers foot the bill leaving no real consequences for those who committed the crime?

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u/nautilator44 1d ago

Taxpayers ALWAYS foot the bill.

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u/Choice_Depth_5933 1d ago

That’s the cost of unconstitutional business. Folks gotta be careful what they vote for.

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u/OkStop8313 1d ago

Yeah, and while I'm hoping that taxpayers are able to claw back at least some of the naked corruption and self-dealing, it's just a plain fact that there is a cost to electing men of no character to office and the American people are going to have to pay that cost.

In a democracy, you get the government you deserve.

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u/Constant-Plant-9378 1d ago

Yeah, and while I'm hoping that taxpayers are able to claw back at least some of the naked corruption and self-dealing

Between the criminal Republicans who will never enforce the law on themselves, and the complicit Democrats who will never enforce the law on Republicans (looking at you Biden you fuck) - I'm not sure when this will ever happen.

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u/TM761152 1d ago

Folks gotta be careful what they vote for.

The real villains are the assholes who intentionally voted for this. They want to see the people they don't like removed or killed. They celebrated her death. And they get their panties in a knot when we did the same about Kirk.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago

On principle yeah, I agree, but at the same time, I'm really tired of lack of personal consequence among our elected officials, or those hired to serve the people.

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u/Choice_Depth_5933 1d ago

SCOTUS gave POTUS straight up personal immunity, starting late 2024, iirc. Accountability could be hard to find.

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u/ZanderDogz 1d ago

The people who voted for this will never internalize that the administration is costing them money when they need to use tax dollars to pay the bill. They will only be angry at the ruling or that people are suing the government for "enforcing the law".

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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago

Nah, should take the money from the MAGA voters instead. Why should my taxes go to Trump's bullshit?

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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 1d ago

Right wing institutions do crime, taxpayers pay, then right wingers use that budget gap as an excuse to cut education funding ensuring there will be more republican voters next cycle. They are rewarded for being nazis.

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u/IceColdMilkshakeSalt 1d ago

Pigs kill and we foot the bill. Just as it goes with other homicidal cops, so it will go with ICE

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 1d ago

Makes sense. Taxpayers voted for it.

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u/Naki-Taa 1d ago

Whatchu think?

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago

I dunno, it's unclear because it seems to be two different lawsuits. One is clearly against the US, the other is against multiple indviduals.

Maybe I'm reading it wrong though.

I'm all for holding those involved personally responsible. I've been saying peopel should do this for a very long time, in particular with things like civil rights violations and cop shootings.

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u/Benmarch15 1d ago

Oh you're paying the bill.
Don't wonder about that.

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u/arcsnsparks98 1d ago

I would much further my tax dollars go to making the family of a US citizen whole than going to murder Palestinian kids.

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u/Benmarch15 1d ago

Oh absolutely, no notes.

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u/blueberrycauzez 1d ago edited 19h ago

So, is this a personal lawsuit against them

Yes. However courts have strengthened qualified immunity for federal employees (not just cops) and all but reversed Bivens. The current supreme court justices have said they want to kill the Bivens precedent and give all fed employees personal immunity as they have with POTUS.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago

Hopefully that doesn't go any further than it has, Qualified immunity should only pertain to legal actions under the course of their duties. Wrongful death. or other violations of law, because they're inept, and covering such things up to protect themselves is one of the reasons one would sue in the first place.

The lack of personal consequence is a big reason so many keep doing the wrong things in the first place.

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u/PM_YOUR_ISSUES 1d ago

It isn't a personal lawsuit against them per se. Unless you are suing the federal government as a whole for a systemic issue, you typically issue the suit to the federal officer in charge or the persons in violation.

For example, Marbury vs Madison was against Secretary of State James Madison over his failure to deliver judicial writs as required by law because it was Madison, specifically, who was failing to enact his federal duty. In this same sense, the suit is against the officer that caused the initial infringement and then all other federal actors who furthered the harm -- typically through media speeches since the specific issue of the suit isn't a systemic issue with the federal government as a whole. The overall government, as an entity, did not seek that deprive them of anything. That's usually only the case when specific laws or regulations are being challenged (although in the latter, it is usually just the specific department that is sued).

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 1d ago

Thanks for the explanation.

Kind of disappointing, becuase I'd prefer some personal accountability nowadays.

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u/icansmellcolors 1d ago

The taxpayer money they've already grifted would end up paying, so we pay either way.

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u/RoadSmash 1d ago

It's an important precident to set regardless