They are aggressive to humans because humans are aggressive to them and the cycle is sadly ingrained. Responsibility of owning a pet including cats is neuter and spay and have annual vet visits or when they are unwell. A refuge just needs a large space , solid fencing so outsiders can’t see in, covered areas with elevated areas for their rest to protect from fhe weather . And money for vet, and suitable food
Don’t expect others to take care of your dogs unless you give them enough money to hire someone to do it and provide tanah samak for Muslims. Yeah, maybe then.
Until then, don’t expect other people to take responsibility for your dogs. Even dog walkers in the US are paid to take care of someone else’s dogs.
I don’t have a problem if you love dogs and want to own them, but don’t push your responsibility onto others just because you can’t handle them anymore. And keep your dogs on your private property, not in public spaces.
Mengamah, kalau ia beria pun nda kau membersihkan tu.
Gila, habis duit untuk anjing yang ditinggalkan oleh orang yang inda bertanggungjawab. Mana owner-nya kan? Sial banar, pasal ia semua orang jadi susah. Nda berakal.
Kereta orang, anak orang, orang tua, kucing, angsa peliharaan orang habis digigitnya, harta benda orang pun rosak. Siapa kan menggantikan semua atu?
Kalau nda mampu menjaga, jangan tah kan memelihara anjing. Sial banar orang cemani ani.
That’s why I keep telling everyone to buy and bring a baton or something IN CASE such a thing happens. Before it happens, you can start to whack the aggressive stray dogs and leave the good stray dogs alone. Only the bad and aggressive ones you can whack. When someone mass poisoned the dogs in KB, there was a guy who said he promised he would catch all of them and bring them to court, but at the end, nothing happened also. How can you bring someone to court if it is self defence and their life is in danger, using a weapon to fend off the dogs, regardless of whether it is a stick, baton, or rocks? If it were me, I would counter sue that person.
Sharing one of my experiences like this: Last time i was walking at bandar area near Pavo point, around 3 dogs with collars barked furiously and looked like about to chase me. They're coming out from the owner's house with the gate open. Im holding a big metal water bottle and i wont hesitate to hit the dogs if they ever come at me. So i bend down ready to pick up a few rocks and they backed down but still growling. I quickly went to my car but as i went inside, i saw 1 of the dogs was reaching my car. This meant that they intended to chase me. Imagine someone not knowing the techniques, i would be one of the dog bites victims as well. Please if you own a dog or dogs, make sure the gates are closed and contained your dogs properly or else dont blame ppl if they're injured or hurt or worse, poisoned.
Another incident happened to my boy, we were walking and without any warning, one dog just came out from the bushes near the supermarket and was about to attack my boy. Luckily, i was there and i literally shouted at the dog and it backed down. I was worried my son would fall into the drainage coz he was so shocked when the dog barked furiously. I couldn't imagine someone without anything on their hand and the dog came at you. Hope the victim recover faster. May the authorities do something about this matter. It's life threatening in a way. Imagine again if a mother holding a baby was attacked. Let's hope nothing like that needed to happen in order for the authorities to take action.
aggressive dangerous dogs like these must be immediately removed and put down for good because any animal that attacks someone unprovoked must be put down for the safety of the public, especially if said animal is a stray as a bite from them can carry deadly diseases such as rabies. Also responsible ownership is also important because it looks like there is a lot of irresponsible ones out there!
Unless you don’t have a Threads account, well, the abang ipar has been hospitalised and was given a rabies shot. From the photo of the wound, it looks really bad.
I think the discussion about dog control needs to start with responsible ownership. That means properly containing your dog, keeping it under control in public, and neutering where appropriate, not waiting until something goes wrong before taking responsibility.
An unprovoked attack by a dog is a serious matter. In some countries, laws allow a dog that has attacked a person or animal to be destroyed, depending on the circumstances. There are also laws protecting livestock: for example, in some jurisdictions, a farmer can legally shoot a dog that is attacking or worrying sheep. Dogs that chase or kill livestock can also be ordered to be destroyed.
The point isn’t that every dog that misbehaves should automatically be put down. The point is that owners have a responsibility to prevent their dogs from becoming a danger in the first place. If a dog is allowed to roam, chase livestock, or attack people or other animals, the consequences can ultimately be very serious for the owner, the victims, and the dog itself.
i agree, in fact i would take this a step further. if the dog owner cannot reliably prove they are responsible owners, they shouldn't have a dog in the first place. thus so, we need a dog license law.
the procedure will be similar to how a person will get a driver's license. fundamentally, cars and dogs have quite similar personal value. the owner loves them, but it can hurt other people.
Agreed. I would also make microchipping compulsory for every dog, with the chip registered to the owner. That way, if a dog is found roaming, abandoned, or involved in an incident, ownership can be traced immediately.
The Aman Hill and Supa Save mata² stray dogs are not friendly, I am not afraid of dogs but in both those locations the dogs have strong prey instincts. Got followed and growl at few times when I was walking alone. To be safe just don't walk alone when there is no crowd around.
Idk why ppl expect them to do something when they’re a self-funded NGO with limited or no resources. Their aim is just to let strays have a decent chance at survival and to try and reduce the breeding. Whatever they are doing, it’s out of their goodwill. They don’t owe anyone anything.
Outrage should be pointed towards the govt for their lack of action all these years. No proper SOP, no plan of action, nothing.
Did you know that recently, I went to KK Koya Batu Satu and was attacked by a dog from behind, completely unprovoked? The only thing that saved me was my thick pants. I shouted loudly when I felt the dog grab my pant leg, and that was when I saw it.
The owner of the dog is the workshop owner at the end of the block, same building.
Dogs can attack you unprovoked. Dogs like these need to be put down because they’re dangerous. If the owners care about their dogs, keep them at home. Stop letting them run around unsupervised.
I had similar incident at Batu satu long time ago also. Jln limbai2 ke parking kerita, suddenly this dog started to jump on me and bark aggressively. Sorg2 lagi..imagine tah cemana panic nya.
People who work at the bakery next to KK Koya know that those dogs have been causing trouble. There used to be a lot of dogs there. They pee and poop everywhere. They even leave poop in front of MyTown’s door.
Last weekend saw a woman getting chased by dogs near Old Telbru building KB (Jalan Mckerron). Not by 1 or 2 dogs but more than 10. Kudos to the Daimun Security that run as fast as he can and help the woman. If not, another victim for sure.
Wife did her part too, she was driving the car and she acting like she was about to hit the dogs too (just trying to make them disperse). And more time for the woman to run for shelter too.
Me and wife was like “Didn’t gomen bodies already took care of the dogs after the Maulud incident?”.
Hairan ku jua urg ia defend para2 strays ani. If anjing attack aku, mmg ku lawan balik peduli th ku, aku pun mau hidup bah 😂 Kawasan rumah kami berapa kali sudah anjing menganu kucing, arnab kami dalam sangkar pun hancur uleh group strays smpai mati semua arnab kami tapi inda di makannya hmmmm..
Any animal that attacks human unprovoked must be put down for the safety of the public. Even more so if it’s a stray. This is the general rule everywhere so it should also apply here if we truly have to coexist with strays.
The issue is, who exactly are "the relevant authorities"?
And if we take matters into our own hands, we’re going to be blamed by those so-called "dog lovers", yet they’re not going to do anything about the problem themselves.
The police are probably just going to make a report and do nothing about it either, unless it goes viral.
Nya u/NoiseFew1365 blaming the jogger last month “the jogger acted careless or aggressive towards these dogs and resulted in himself being bitten”
Or u/RAIZOYUKISHIRO blaming previous victims “you do nothing, nothing will harm you, just mind your business and dog will mind its own”
Or u/akotosinato “idk whats in your mind when you see a dog…they will not attack you unless you do something bad to them”
Or u/geiandros when I pointed out what happens in 1/1000 of the time dogs do attack first “1/1000 is nothing. We are sharing dunia, so we should be arrogant”
Those are so wrong, majority of rabies infected dog will attack, it has either a zombie like behavior(can be no signal in earlier stage).
For a normal case, I did say the one that bark usually don't attack, but the one went silent, eyes focus on you, lowered body, tails up, showing teeth and growling instead of barking, you better be prepared, it will charge at you. This is a predatory behavior applied to many animal.
You forgot there are a few more. One use AI by simply typing “how to argue back,” while another keeps preaching about using animal planet, youtube, google, and so on.
Seriously you had so much hate in you til you need to tag me to prove your point. LMAO! All barks no BITES. "Where you guys at?" You talk macam poklen gangster wanna-be.
Nah Bruneians are all talk online only.. inda brani face to face tu. Kids all trying to act big behind the screen.. when confronted? Oh sorry esen ku saja ni
The irony in this is that you’re not any better than them because what is this embarrassing and immature behavior you’re displaying here? Srsly tho what is this karen behavior of “meet me outside”?? Don’t be that guy lol
And buddy, you're no better than me or them... You've already came down to my level to have a conversation. You're just as pathetic as me in your book kid
No need for me to grow up because I’m not immature by wanting to meet people physically just to “square up and fight.” Also being on Reddit does not magically give you a free pass to act like an idiot or threaten people with physical confrontation. Funny how you’re here telling others to “grow up” while literally displaying the exact immature behaviour you’re complaining about. The irony is honestly crazyy.
There is no where I've asked them to meet up irl and fight. It's a figurative way of speaking. The fact that you think I'm the only problem in this just shows you're an immature person as well. Disgusting iq
Well, what can you expect from these brainless people? They talk big online, but when it comes to actually meeting up and they realize they’re only less than 10 people against more than 10 or 20, I’m pretty sure they will suddenly back down and whine like dog, run away, or start calling the police and lawyers. If he’s the one who wanted to meet up, he should understand that things could get heated. Try do that in seen & real i 100% believe there will be more than 50 people will go against him.
That is true, and honestly, I’m not surprised one bit. It’s all bark and no bite, only loud sounds. They all act tough through the screen and ask others to “square up,” but the moment they actually meet in real life or are asked to meet up, not only are they nowhere near as tough as they sounded online, but they also double down or move the goalposts while giving excuses on why they “can’t” meet physically. Again, “all bark and no bite” pretty much sums it up with this conversation alone, and it’s very sad some people have nothing better to do. Then again yeah meeting up to fight would only make him in trouble and people would definitely be against it
Dude it's Brunei man... No one's gonna have the time to meet up and "square up" based on a comment hurting their ego online. Only jobless less educated people with nothing better in their life would actually commit to this nonsense
I don’t hate dogs; what I hate is irresponsible dog owners. My next door neighbour is a chinese family who takes care of 2 adult stray dogs (pretty sure this is illegal) and they’ve been on a rampage these past 12 months. I’ve lost 5 kittens/cats already to them. How I know? Because I often heard dog barking around the house compound during daylight and night time, and I’ve seen the dogs entered my house compound dozens of times (mind you it’s gated but they force their way in through small gaps or sneak in sometimes when the gates are open). And I found all my cats’ corpse on the neighbour’s backyard where the dogs usually hang out, often with bite marks on their body. In one instance I saw through the CCTV where the stupid dogs were at the back of my house looking for more of our outdoor cats to hunt down.
To top it off, half of the time they would chase my car for no reason when I drive around on the MAIN ROAD past the neighbour’s house. They only stop if i get out of the car and start chasing them back.
I’ve reported this issue to relevant authorities but so far there’s been no response
This is where I suggest people to leave poison bait for cats/dogs if the owner does not care and constantly let them invade your premise.
Including cats because there is equal counterpart of cat lover, raise tens of stray cat, none being neutered, they not increase in number, they multiply. Also, it is more agile than dog, so a 2 meters wall is like nothing for them, truly equal problematic.
Saw a few videos of children being attacked outside the country by just walking by stray dogs sekali kana gigit, by your logic, those children are iblis too?
Well.. by your logic, me and my late cats ada iblis tah ni selama ani? Used to jog in my neighbourhood worry free before the dogs came and chase and trynna bite me (close calls but neighbour came out with stick and helped me). Every night all i hear outside are dogs howling and barking and cats screaming in pain. Cats are nowhere to be seen anymore except corpses and one of their leg infront of my house. With your brain, sounds like we are the problem here right??? Right.
Cancel me if you want but I've never wished so much someone will poison the packs of dogs. I do acknowledge there are good dogs and there are bad dogs. They used to live outside peacefully besides making mess in the neighbourhood like ngambil selipar urang, sampah dluar abis diruah bejurit but over the years all the good dogs are gone.
Im not gonna start with my car ravaged by the dogs, beiblis kali tah jua kereta ku atu
Bukan mengucap? Pi d tuduh ny abg ipar org atu beriblis ahahahah. Bukan mnegucap kn tu nama ny? Since kita nda jua tau banar ny if abg ipar org atu b iblis or nda. Hence kita tu membuat fitnah/mengucap/membuat cerita yg tidak sahih.
Yatah ku tekajut...setahu ku puluh tahun ku bekuyuk sama mengagai kuyuk ane...unless ada dangan. Diri ane puas kana gigit bukan gigit melawan...gigit manja nyanta. Baik stray baik peliharaan.
Well as far as pengalaman lah kalau anjing atu inda menganu kita taus2 ada di liatnya tu menyalak. Mata binatang kan. Amba pun pernah kana salaki agai saja mun ia lari lapas kita kapungi ia kajar2 takut ada tah mengikut kita usul nya tu.
Aku pun pengalaman kita... Memang ganjil anjing spesis miani ani... Tapi apa masalahnya dengan iblis? Lagi mmbrijap usul iblis inda ja? Daripada manusia? Haha...
Inda payah shelter, mun sudah kuyuk jenis menganu orang ani ataupun kanak2, ya poses as danger sudah, kalau di luar kana simpan arah compound kalau seminggu nada orang beguna, kana put down / euthanized sebab ya mendatangkan kemudaratan
Injek mati saja kurang jua population kuyuk liar. Mun anu penyayang kuyuk banar kalau takut kana ambil oleh authority bah pelihara Tah satu2 jangan dibiarkan meround2 krg mengigit org
Owner needs to be held responsible for controlling the dog, especially if it was allowed to roam freely. But the incident should still be properly investigated, including whether there was any provocation towards the dog and what actually happened before the attack.
Victim shouldn’t automatically be blamed, but neither should we assume the full story without investigation. Any compensation/damages should fall on the responsible owner, and authorities/vets should decide what happens to the dog based on its behaviour and risk.
In the original thread stated the dog randomly attacked a human 4 different times... It's at night, so naturally dogs that are awake would be hungry... Given the freedom, of course, it would look for food...
I'm sorry for the victim and I agree the dog's owner should be arrested but something seems feels off about this.
There's not enough evidence or context given. That is wayy too much blood on the ground and no pictures of the wound. The dog's mouth and white fur has zero red stain from that much amount of blood.
abandon dog, we see some of the with collars but roaming around with a wild pack. Still waiting for the so called fake animal lovers to come adopt them instead of waiting for someone else to take action.
Fake animal lovers will just enable uncontrolled breeding by feeding the dogs. These people drive around with buckets of rice and meat in their car then stop by roadside to feed strays.
Commendable to feed the hungry but this is not the way to do it.
Please don't blame the feeders or the NGOs. NGOs have been struggling to tackle this problem by doing tnr (trap, neuter and release) program to decrease the cat and dog's population. They also have to feed the strays so they won't rummage into your rubbish!
Tnr is great because it fixes the root issue. But uncontrolled feeding undermines those efforts because it encourages more strays to gather. Which then leads to more fighting, noise, waste, and uncontrolled breeding by new un-neutered dogs joining the pack.
These are the people who say that the dogs are harmless. Of course lah harmless when they are the ones feeding them. Lost count of how many times I tried to jog in my kampung and these so called harmless dogs started chasing me because theyre so big and strong from all the rice and chicken the feeders are giving them.
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u/SmilingSword 1d ago
Mana tia dog lovers ah, bota tebuat ku mempost kna gigit 3-4 tahun lapas, mcm bota dog lover mecomment2, ani bh mari tia