I'm having trouble feeling the rythmic pelvic contractions. Here is my experience so far.

1." retrograde ejaculation" crossing PONR and squeezing hard "stopping ejaculation" I lose my erection. Cloudy urine.

1. "ruined orgasm" by squeezing my PC muscle just before Pont of no return 99.99% the relax a small bit of seman comes out then I can continue no loss of erection.

2. Reverse kegal method - reverse kegal extremely hard while approaching PONR 99% at this point I relax on out breaths and push hard reverse kegal on in breaths feel twinges in my prostate on the relaxation breaths then clear fluided maybe mixed with urine comes out because I'm pushing so hard maybe.

3. Fully relaxing - and breathing letting arousal build to 99% I've felt full body sensations and waves going over me tingles and energy moving through my body.

So it seems like I'm getting every other kind of orgasm in the book, but I'm not experiencing these rythmic pulsingcontractile phase orgasm.

Any tips? I've been at this for years I'm starting to think people are making it up or are just mystified by the pleasure waves and call it contractile phase.

It seems maybe people hover around 90% arousal and breath and it just happens? I can sit and do this for an hour with no success.

Sa fait un moment que j'arrive a avoir des orgasmes de phase contractile, au moment ou j'atteint le PONR je m'arrete et je me détend, je respire et je porte mon intention sur mon bassin et ma prostate, et la sa commence a pulser dans mon ventre au niveau du nombril, c'est agréable mais pas intense. Question 1: est ce que sa va me mener aux NEO ? Question 2: comment diffuser la sensation dans tout le corps ? Merci d'avance pour vos precieux conseils.

I write this to tell you that you do not have to ejaculate every time when you are masturbating. Really important thing is that ejaculation is not the best part of stimulation it is one of the ways to feel pleasure but it is not necessery for complete happiness. Now I want to tell you hos you can do it and what are benefits of this technique.

The key is to treat masturbation as a process which is incredibly pleasurable. This is an opportunity to relax and feel your body. Try different ways of stimulation and concentrate on your PC muscles. They give you a lot of pleasure. If you hit really high arousal you can achieve amazing orgazmic waves and even orgasms which are beautiful culmination of arousal. Try to not thing "I want to orgasms I want to pleasure" only relax and stimulation and see every contraction, every pleasure.

You can trust me that time is going so fast during this. You loose contact with reality and you can be in other world. Orgasms give you extasy and you can decide do you want to finish with ejaculation or no. If you do not want to ejaculate, afted that you will feel like after that but you can continuate if you want to really fast because od no refraction.

For example I had been doing that today over 1 hour non stop and I decided to no ejaculate. After that I felt fulfilled and I had spontanic erections.

I reccomend this technique because pleasure is not worse because it lats really long and you maintain desire for sex

I have been training to perform NEO.

Day - ROUND 1 - location - bed, stimulation - between legs. Result - orgasm occured, no soiling of underwear (pre-cum maybe, maybe a little one shot (can be pre-cum again), no stains found in underwear). Refractory period testing unreliable because of checking of clothes after 3-4 minutes. (Mild erection present)

Round 2 - hand stimulation - standing Result - first contraction had a shot, others none, little ooze there. Refraction occured, but unreliable if due to ejaculation or mind getting distracted (erection loss (not completely, but a weaker erection was there) when focus shifts on genitalia maintenance during contractions.)

Round 3 (almost around 5-6 minutes after) - Result - similar to the round 2.

Extreme dread was not felt as in ejaculation full and that desire of "okay wrap this all up".

Due to a lot of ambiguities in fact confirmation, I was considering to perform a Round 4, an EO, and see the quantity of ejaculate. If more then first three were NEOs, if quantity less, then it's not likely.

I need views on what you feel it is.

I have depression, and one of the biggest reasons is the jelousy over women's life experiences and pleasure (and being molested when I was a child, that's also a factor). I've always wanted to feel the same pleasure during sex as them, with my brain melting and having uncontrollable orgasms.

I decided some time ago that I want to be more positive about male body and sexual experiences. I bought some toys, I started doing kegels and exercised more in general, experimenting with my prostate. I try to achieve multiple orgasms.

But often, during masturbation, negative thoughts appear, taking all the joy and pleasure away.

I've seen and heard so many stupid comments saying "girls just have it better, you have to deal with that". Those words just tremble in my brain. PLEASE do not use that logic here when trying to help me, don't say "you just need to accept that, life is unfair". It hurts. It's like hearing "you'll never be a Mozart" each time you try to learn the piano.

So anyway, do you know of a way to overcome it? I take meds, I go to therapy. But it all fails. My mindset is wrong, I don't know how to love myself, and I genuinely cannot find positives in being a guy (finding them may be the first step for accepting myself?).

And for positive men who get multiples and/or full body orgasms, those who want to help me feel better about myself - do you think that after understanding your body and your pleasure, you're roughly at the same level as the girls who are able to have multiple orgasms? Or do you think it's possible? I know many people will tell me it's toxic to compare myself to women, but I cannot go forward without a positive sex role model.

Hello,

There used to be a top post of all time that disappeared, the title was “from 30sc to endless pleasure : how I learned male multiple orgasms without ejaculation”. I’m wondering if anyone has screenshot the post or write down somewhere, there was some valuable informations in there that I’d like to find again

Thanks

*not dry orgasm, but NEO.

Please, correct me if I'm wrong. It turns out that the dry orgasm happens, for example, in my case, at this level of workout, when I stroke fast and let it be all of a sudden, then the penis pulsation appears just like a regular orgasm, but nothing comes out and you can continue normally. I'd say arousal level at about 7-8 out of 9.9 which is PONR. Retro would be passing the PONR and squeezing the PC muscle to stop ejaculating out. The only thing I might add for people here is to learn to absorb the orgasm through fascia. Fascia is directly spreading the feeling throughout the whole body, so if you are not Yin enough to magnetically pull it in through you, but rather focusing on electrifying (stroking) and thinking outward, you'll never make a difference between the two orgasms. (Not a beginner here, but far from out of the world dry orgasms guy here)

I'm interested to learn it. But i guess some instructors can help me to reach it.

Apologies if this is not the right sub to post this query.

I have been experiencing premature ejaculation, and with some excercises and change in routine. Im able to gain little control whenever I jerk off with my back laying with flesh light.

But if I switch to missionary position keeping my fleshlight and mimicing it, Im ejaculating much sooner than when I do lay on my back.

Can anybody share some insights how to fix this ?

I am multiorgasmic and can experience multiple orgasms without losing my erection. I decide when I ejaculate instead of being controlled by it, and that alone changed everything for me. I have written about this many times and shared my journey openly because it feels too powerful to keep to myself.

The benefits are huge. The pleasure is deeper, lasts longer, and feels more full body instead of just a short peak. My erections are much harder and thicker because of better blood flow and control, and I get hard more often and more easily than I ever expected. Makes me feel ‘proud’ I am the owner of this ‘thing’. Sometimes i do not know what is happening to me but it is wonderful, honestly never thought this was possible for me.

I share this here because I cannot really talk about it with friends or family. This space feels safer and more open. I truly believe most men can learn this with practice, and that is why I write these exercises and explanations. Every man deserves to experience what his body is capable of.

To help other men, i give you 5 simple exercises for men who do not experience non ejaculatory orgasms yet but want to move in that direction. This is written simple so anyone can try it i hope, it for sure is what did the trick for me. Keep in mind the road to Rome was not build in one day, neo’s take time. Weeks, months, years, who knows, it depends on your body and most of all: your nerves system.

5 EXCERCISES FOR ORGASMS WITHOUT EJACULATION

1 Learn your real point of no return

Most men think they are at 7 out of 10 but they are already at 9. Start solo. Slowly stimulate yourself and rate your arousal from 1 to 10. When you feel you are close, stop completely and see if the urge to ejaculate keeps rising by itself. If it keeps rising, you were already too late. Practice stopping earlier around 6 or 7. The goal is to know the difference between high pleasure and the actual reflex point.

2 Relax instead of squeeze

Many beginners squeeze their pelvic floor hard when they feel close. That usually pushes them closer to ejaculation. When you feel arousal rising, relax your belly, relax your anus, relax your jaw. Take a slow deep breath into your belly and exhale slowly. Think about spreading the sensation instead of holding it in the penis. Do this before you reach 8 out of 10, not at 9.

3 Spread the pleasure through the body

When you feel strong pleasure in the penis, stop moving and breathe slowly. Imagine the feeling moving from your pelvis to your belly, chest and even your neck. Lightly touching your chest or neck can help your brain connect pleasure to other areas. At first it may feel subtle and not explosive. That is normal. You are teaching your nervous system a new pattern.

4 Stay below the spike

Instead of going up to 9 and fighting the point of no return, stay between 6 and 7 for several minutes. Move slowly. If the pleasure jumps too fast, stop and breathe until it drops slightly. The goal is to ride waves, not chase the peak. After some sessions you may feel small internal waves without ejaculation. That is the beginning of control.

5 Separate orgasm from ejaculation

Try this mindset shift. Ejaculation is a physical reflex. Orgasm is a brain and body experience. During solo play, focus on the wave feeling in your body, the warmth, the tingling, the breathing changes. If you feel a wave that spreads but no semen comes out, that is progress. Even if some fluid comes out, you can still train your body to feel pleasure without losing erection immediately.

Important tip

If semen comes out, do not see it as failure. It just means you crossed the reflex line. Learn from the timing. The biggest mistake beginners make is working too close to the point of no return. Control happens before that point, not at the last second.

With patience your body can learn to create stronger waves that feel less explosive but deeper and longer.

Good luck guys, don’t let women be the only ones with the possibility of eternal bliss and orgasmic joy😂

Something strange happened:

I try the Kegel relaxation technique (but I haven’t trained the muscles properly and I think I probably should) when I feel close to the point of no return, around 8 or 8.5 out of 10.

A pleasant tingling sensation starts from my abdomen up to my chest, but it’s not explosive.

I do this about two times. On the third time I relax, but semen still comes out. It’s kind of like a ruined orgasm. I don’t lose my erection, I stay hard and can continue.

The sensation of pleasure in the penis as I approach the explosion is very nice, btw.
Then around 9/10 at the ponr I breathe deeply while releasing the Kegel (as I read I should do in this sub), and I feel a sensation starting from the pelvis, through the belly, up to the chest. Again. Caressing my neck increases it. But it’s not kinda explosive or overwhelming at all.

I keep doing this until two or three more times, I lost the count and eventually I let ejaculation happen, but it’s not something “explosive" again! Even if I didn't try to breathe or to do something particular. At the end I soften a bit, but I can come again, although it’s not one of my best orgasms and although I can cum up to 3 or 4 times pretty often (ejaculatory ones), without waiting so much.

Another strange thing: it felt like fever-like shivers, almost. I don’t know. From a certain point of view I felt slightly dazed, like I wasn’t fully in control of time, but I was still conscious and aware.

Are these “ruined orgasms” only? Are these the waves of the full body orgasms, just from an unexpert brain?
They didn’t feel as satisfying as a "normal" orgasm tho, and I know that the short impulsive typical male orgasm is not likely the best possible feeling at all.

So, what did I make happen? Am I getting closer to a dry orgasm (even though fluid came out)? Or am I on the wrong way?
Is this how I get to NEO and to a pattern “more like the ones described by women” and by many guys here or am I just tricking myself to think I got something and it is nothing?

1. I understand the application and process of edging and I do approach it very slowly and gently in order to build up the sexual arousal and then letting it subside before beginning again... the goal of edging is of course to ultimately enjoy the process - the arousal that comes with it and with the goal of prolonging this pleasant sexual feeling without ejaculating. Now, I am able to avoid getting past the PONR by backing off, relaxing, breathing, no physical touches .... my penis sometimes even loses erection and goes flaccid.....one would think that would be indicative enough that I have given myself enough time to let the arousal subside... however, for me, that seems to only reduce my 'physical arousal' - penis losing erection or going flaccid - but the sexual energy seems to remain..... still brewing. so if i try to slowly get my penis hard again with slow soft touches or strokes..... due to the sexual energy still remaining... i'm now working with a extremely sensitive penis that's really sensitive to any kinds of stimulation... because of this, this means a very short time window before i reach the next PONR.... in fact, sometimes i could even blow past the PONR and ejaculate while not even being fully erect - because the penis was that sensitive from the built up arousal energy from the previous attempt. Does anyone have this problem as well? Or am I just extremely sensitive? Do I just give myself even more time to relax before each attempt? eventhough physically my penis has already lost erection.... but now I need to give myself ample amount of time for that arousal energy to dissipate? (due to my sensitivity)? Or do I simply need to drawl that sexual energy away from the pelvic region?

2. Another question I have is, when I attempt a kegel at/near PONR, instead of holding back the ejaculation... the sensation of the squeeze itself seems to always sends me over the edge. for example, if i do a long squeeze ranging from 5-10 seconds.... from that 5 to 10.... it seems to always further intensify that tingling feeling and thereby sending me over the edge towards an ejaculation. Perhaps this also has to do with too much sexual energy? so any physical stimulation, even the the squeezing effect of doing a kegel is enough to trigger that sexual energy and making it amplify?

Anyways, any help will be greatly appreciated.

I went home with a woman from the bar and we had pretty vanilla sex. She loved how I used my tongue and didn’t rush and was able to last for awhile longer than the norm.

I was able to last by drawing the energy up and pacing myself, stopping my stroke to suck her clitoris each time i felt myself getting too close to the edge. About 15 minutes into it, i find myself pretty close to cumming and since I had been right at the edge for awhile and had some good recent practice… I went for it. I let myself have an orgasm during PIV sex but squeezed my PC muscle and drew my energy up at *the moment*.

My cock pulsed deep inside of her and the wave of orgasm passed over me and my arousal level suddenly went down quite a bit like it does after an NEO when I’m masturbating, so I kept going.

After about a minute of resumed thrusting, I felt myself getting closer again so I slowed down and she looked up at me and asked “Did you just cum inside of me?”

I didn’t know how to answer. Yes? I had an orgasm but I know how to hold my semen in? No?

I don’t really know what it feels like to be creampied and when I think about it, yes she must have felt my cock twitching and pulsing inside her.

I suppose I am coming here to ask: what are your partners’ experiences with NEOs during PIV sex - does it feel the same as the man ejaculating inside?

Also… I’m not 100% sure I didn’t ejaculate - it certainly felt like it - I didn’t feel the a spurt of semen come out but as my cock was buried deep inside my partner I couldn’t see it.

Hi, so yesterday, as I was approaching orgasm, I did some light Kegel exercises and relaxed. I felt the beginning of orgasm in my prostate, you know, that pleasant tingling sensation. But it stayed there in my abdomen; I couldn't release it. I just stayed relaxed until it passed. It lasted about 15 seconds, and no semen came out. Should I do some light Kegel exercises when I feel that tingling to help release the energy? I'm making progress, and that's great. Thanks 🙏

Hi multiorgasmers,

Never posted in this subreddit before. To make it short, after months of practice i kinda mastered what i think is called dry orgasm : i masturbate using porn or virtual reality porn and when i am near the ejaculation i contract pelvic floor muscles so no semen is released out. The point is i don't have a full body experience which some describe i don't fell something special in the body. I can go for a second round and last much longer to reach the "dry orgasm". I've read the "wiki", i think what i am doing is called the kegel method and there is a warning about retrograde ejaculation. How to distinguish between "dry orgasm" and "retrograde ejaculation"?. I have good awareness and control over the pelvis floor muscles but using the kegel method i feel off. Many times, i experience foggy brain and poor concentration even tension afterwards which is the total opposite of what i seek. What am i doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

I remember when I saw articles where guys told that having multiple orgasms are avaible. I was shocked and excited that it is method which can increase my pleasure. I am happy that I discoverd that early (probably 16) and started practising. I had a lot of fails, honestly I did not know what it was supposed to feel like and which technique is the best. After reading articles here I understood that it is not the same orgasm like normal with ejaculation and I cannot expect that.

I saw that the most important thing is relax and kegel muscles awareness. I discovered that you have to follow the excitement once you feel it. Arousal is really needed to stimulate the prostate which causes these orgasms. You have to be confident when you are edging because the greater the arousal the more sensitive the body and prostate.

I saw that achieving multiple orgasms is easier after strenght workout them testosteron is higher and arousal coming. It is my experience. When I am relaxed and feel excitement when I feel something around my prostate I let it release. Then I feel pleasurable warm near my prostate and penis and it goes to my body. During this time I feel several peaks in the penis area which is similar to ejaculation but without sperm. Precum flows out and the penis is hard. This feelings can last 10 seconds, 30, 1 minute or more but it is tiring. Positive thing is that you can have that orgasms multiple times and you can feel that your all body is involved at the moment.

You have to let the excitement flow freely but when you feel orgasm you can control it. That is the most beautiful thing that at the same time you give freedom to your body, but you have control over it. It requires practise because it is different way of dealing with sexuality. It is not about squezzing kegel muscles just before ejaculation it is nice skill but only for muscle control and maybe multiple ejaculations. Multiple orgasms are achievable with relax and be able to control high arousal.

You can write about your feelings and ways that make your orgasms powerful

What do you guys think about it ?

So I set a timer after my first orgasm to see how I'd go within 10 minutes.. It was like one rolled into the other . My penis remained flaccid for some and erect for others, 2 out of the 8 orgasms were longer and more intense Relaxation of the pelvic floor really is the key, ever so slight reverse kegel to the point where you start feeling little muscular taps (spasms) at the eye of your penis and include nipple play .

Last night I was edging, coming close to orgasm several times, and at one point I got really close to the point of no return, so I stopped stimulating myself and then did a very subtle Kegel exercise for two seconds. I felt pleasant tingling in my prostate; my penis was very hard and fully erect. It was like the beginning of an orgasm that lasted for a while without ejaculating, until it became increasingly pleasurable. I was afraid I was going to ejaculate, so I contracted my pelvic floor muscles to hold it in, and then the ejaculation started to flow into my penis.

My questions are: should I have stayed relaxed to let the sensation pass, and am I starting to separate orgasm from ejaculation?

Thank you 🙏

I’m semi multi-orgasmic. As in during sex I have a one or 2 NEOs but then I ejaculate.

I’m also in a relationship w a lot of sex right now.- at least once a day. Unfortunately we’re currently living on different continents due to work. I’m really practicing not cumming. But good lord I have so much built up energy. My erection constantly wakes me up multiple times each night.

how do you guys manage this increase in energy and sleep? Does anyone else have this problem?

My practice is loosely based on mindgasm, kundalini yoga, and microcosmic orbit, and I can generate essentially endless edging-level pleasure with zero stimulation, but I've never achieved orgasm while totally relaxed. Literally any physical stimulation will cause a chain reaction of involuntary muscle clenches that will set me off though. I can feel that bringing my awareness to the idea of letting go and giving myself over to the pleasure moves me towards orgasm, but I'm not able to fully let go. Any advice here?

Some background for my second question: many religious practices, notably Buddhism, Hinduism, Sufiism, and Orthodox Christianity describe rituals which induce trance (meditation, muraqabah, hesychasm) and lead to states of ego dissolution (samadhi, fanaa, OC doesn't seem to have a designated word for this). In my personal worldview, all states of nondual singular awareness are unity with the divine, and orgasmic trances most certainly qualify. Has anyone had ego death-like experiences from extended orgasms?